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NGpatriot:
That was a misquote on my part, I quoted the wrong person. You are right and Tolu was right.

No problem. Cheers.

Ishilove:
That WhatsApp conversation is obviously contrived, a figment of the murky imagination of a hungry blogger.

How do you know?

Isinweke:
I don't know what you're trying to say since you're still contradicting yourself,

How can you say the SSW and SSE means South South?


Like I said before there is nothing like South South in Geography and if you try to create one, it will not make any sense,

Just like we don't have East East, North North, West West, you can't find SS in the 32 compass points, 64 or any how you do it.

I agree that South South exists in Nigeria and it's just a name given to a political zone in Nigeria.

1) You did not present anything to counter my points, even though it's clearly spelt out and even though it's right there in the diagram that you posted!!

2) South-South is not just a Nigerian term. I heard about it long before it was created in Nigeria. Alex Ekwueme proposed the term at the 1995 Constitutional Conference, but the term has been used as far back as 1980 (and even before) to refer to South-South Cooperation.

NGpatriot:
Eastern Port in maritime terms is a correct designation per N.S.E.W, but it doesn't change the fact that the ports are in the SS/Delta region.

Your obsession with the word Eastern is nothing but layman's semantics.

Gosh! You people are amazing! Where did I show any obsession with the word Eastern?? When did I say that the ports are not in the South-South/Delta Region??

Kai!

It's like people don't read to understand anymore, they read to respond and attack.

NGpatriot:
N.S.E.W in Compass and maritime terms doesn't mean South East Region and the ports in question are in SS states/Delta Region. PERIOD.

Central and South America, the Caribbean are part of United States Southern Command, but are the countries in the Caribbean, Central and South America part of the US?

Tolu was right when he referred to them as the Eastern Ports. The NPA previously had a zonal structure and according to that structure, what people call the Apapa Port is known as the "Lagos Ports" and those ports that Tolu referred to were known as the Eastern Ports. That was what he was referring to.

Glorifiednwafor:
Its From the diagram.
Now answer my question.

You haven't yet answered my question. What the heck do you mean by, "I am shooting myself in the foot".

You question is very easy to answer but you must first answer mine.

Exodora:
So because Osibanjo visited the National Muesum we should be dancing abi. I visited there last year November and yet I didn't make a single noise just because is Osibanjo we will not hear word.

That's very sad. Why didn't you make a single noise? We would have made a Nairaland thread out of it.

Glorifiednwafor:
You are just shooting yourself on the foot. So with that diagram which area or zone is CrossRiver and AkwaIbom for instance??
"Strictly From that your diagram "

First explain what you mean by, "You are shooting yourself in the foot".

Ishilove:
Lies

So what really happened?

Isinweke:
So where is the South South?

I can't find it.

If you look at the diagram below, you'll see a South-South-West (SSW) and a South-South-East (SSE). That's the south-south.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/10957474_1200pxbrosenwindrose_svg_webp4429e7a2797fcd57554f58b20b61fbca

That's what inspired Dr Alex Ekwueme. He said that we had the Northern, Eastern and Western Regions at independence.

The Western Region had minorities. Those minorities became the Mid-West State (later Bendel and then Edo and Delta). That's the south-south-west.


The Eastern Region had minorities. Those minorities were fighting for a state called COR State. That's Calabar, Ogoja and Rivers provinces (presently Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Rivers and Bayelsa). That's the south-south-east.

He brought these two together to create the south-south.

(The reason that he created these 6 geopolitical zones was because (1) he was afraid that the north would dominate Nigeria, so he wanted to reduce the power of the north and (2) the minority groups wanted their own regions, so the two southern minority areas, along with the north-central, have their own regions.)


However, this has got nothing to do with the naming of the ports. The NPA has two main port categories, (1) The Lagos Ports (2) The Eatern Ports and that's what Tolu Ogunlesi was rightly referring to.

Isinweke:
You're an ignoramus,

South South is just a name given to a political zone in Nigeria.

Thank you, The diagram that you posted below shows that there are indeed points called south-south.

(Study the diagram carefully).

It's what inspired Dr Alex Ekwueme to create the south-south geopolitical zone.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/10957474_1200pxbrosenwindrose_svg_webp4429e7a2797fcd57554f58b20b61fbca

eldeens:
I didn't see anything war in that museum. Is it actually war museum or picture in the frame museum.

People are usually not allowed to take pictures inside the museum. It's only because Osinbajo is the Vice President, that's why they gave his photographer this level of access.

I watched a documentary about the museum in the 1980s and discovered that they kept some of the improvised armoured vehicles that the Biafran Army used in the Civil War, some of the artillery guns used by the Nigerian Army and other artefacts from the Civil War in the museum.

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Tolu Ogunlesi tweets about the revival of the Eastern Ports
tolu ogunlesi @toluogunlesi

I think we all agree that Nigeria needs to move more cargo/containers away from Lagos and to the Ports in the Eastern flank of Nigeria (Calabar, PH, Warri, Onne, etc), right? Lagos Ports are clearly overburdened - no doubt about that.

Here’s something quite interesting:

Things have been looking up for the Eastern Ports since 2017. Still a long way to go, but you can see a coming-alive.

The revival started in Calabar Port in Oct 2017, when two flat-bottomed vessels (200m) berthed there, carrying wheat:

MV Desert Ranger, and
MV Desert Harrier

One of the biggest challenges with the Eastern Ports is the limitations in channel draft. In layman’s terms, they are too shallow for large vessels. Need to be dredged. While plans for dredging are being sorted, the Nigerian Ports Authority (@nigerianports) decided to encourage flatbottomed vessels to berth.

Getting the two vessels (owned by a Greek Co) to break a jinx of sorts and berth in Calabar in Oct 2017 was no small feat - the Company had to be convinced; ship captains had to receive special training to navigate the Calabar Port channel. And then there was Pilot Mohammed Bida.

Pilot Mohammed Bida is the @nigerianports tugboat pilot whose task it was to “pilot” the vessels into the Harbour when they arrived in Calabar. News reports say he was rewarded with a Best Worker of the Year Award in 2017, as well as double promotion from Grade level 09 to 12.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/10956344_nigerianports_jfif_jpegbaf0239d35bf5cb1da89127cef5a95cc

This was October 2017 - when the flat-bottomed ships broke the Calabar jinx. In December 2017, Calabar Port commenced export of bulk cement to Tema Port in Ghana: https://independent.ng/calabar-port-begins-export-bulk-cement-ghana/

The next big milestone came in 2019.

In 2019, three container ships berthed at Calabar Port — the first time in ELEVEN years.

MV Boreas: September 2019
MV Zea Walawe: November 2019
MV MCP Adamax: November 2019
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/10/07/holm-why-we-brought-container-ship-to-calabar-port/

It’s great news no doubt. But several challenges remain, including the shallow draft, and also security challenges in the waterways (you can read more in the link in previous tweet). But the berthing of flat-bottomed vessels is a step forward from the dormancy of the past.

That’s Calabar.

Let’s move on to Warri Port. Here’s the big news from Warri. I tweeted this a year ago:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/10956345_tweet_jpeg859ecc9f187846d5f741c229f6643474

Next up: Rivers Port (Port Harcourt)

On October 30, 2019, MT NAVIGATOR CAPRICON, a 160m LPG Tanker operated by NLNG, berthed in PH. I’m told first time ever for an LPG ship in any of the Eastern Ports; LPG ships (from NLNG in Bonny) have always berthed in Lagos.

Also, according to @nigerianports:

“Nine (9) new vessels called at the Rivers Ports for the first time in 2019, including:

MV Zafer, berthed September 8, 2019
MV Northern Dance, berthed May 22, 2019
MV Kota Bakti, berthed February 18, 2019.”

Last but not least: Onne Port, also in Rivers State.

On August 1, 2019, Onne Port received MSC GRACE, a containership. First container ship to berth in Onne in TWELVE years, according to @nigerianports.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/10956346_epxeo2lw4ai5gj_jfif_jpegc3f808ce89b24dc598f84d4803cb9511
www.nairaland.com/attachments/10956347_epxeo2iwkaaqrqy_jfif_jpeg9374ea59b179308109c8a4685822e2ba
(File photos taken from Internet; not image from Onne Port)
And then the big news from Onne Port:

On December 8, 2019, Onne Port received JPO VOLANS (owned by Maersk), the FIRST gearless and largest container vessel (265.07 metres) to call at any Eastern Port in Nigeria.

[Typical length of previous Eastern Port ships = 200m or less]

https://twitter.com/toluogunlesi/status/1222099228618567680


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autonomous22:
Wetin carry ImImo Gov. go dia... He don dey show himself abi...

U see why I don't like Anytin from APC...

Kingrefreshed:
Can someone tell me what Senator Hope Uzodimma is doing there in Abia state

This is my guess. Vice President Osinbajo flew into Owerri Airport where he was received by Governor Hope Uzodinma (Owerri Airport is the closest functioning airport to Umahia). He then boarded a helicopter that took him to Umuahia and Governor Uzodinma accompanied him and then returned to Owerri with him and bade him goodbye at the airport.

anonimi:
Thanks for the kind feedback.
Cheers.................................great to have you here

Thank you.

CSTR2:
Your VP is a phony.
They have destroyed the economy.

Everybody in this govt should be swept out of relevance with a clean broom.

Anything else is just rewarding failure and incompetence.

What the heck does all this have to do with what I posted??

anonimi:
Presidential at distributing trader voter money?
You have moved from being intelligent to being funny so quickly
When was the last distribution of trader money sef?



www.nairaland.com/attachments/10119949_tradermoni9_jpeg8e22b732a9e001078ad30f6fcde844fa

AroOkigbo:
Is the distribution still ongoing after the elections or the moni don finish?
The type of brain some of you have eehhh!

solmusdesigns:
you that should check your own brain, have you gone to their office as a trader and got turned away, the loan is even digital and its tied to your phone number so do you expect Osinbajo to continue lunching what he had lunched in the whole 36 states?

Professor Osinbajo did an inspection tour (note, he has never distributed trader money, rather he does inspection tours) as recently as August. The programme was moved from his office to a new ministry late last year. He did many inspection tours after May 29 last year.

In this case, he toured markets in Nasarawa State.

http://saharareporters.com/2019/08/28/osinbajo-nigerian-petty-traders-can-get-n100000-loan-tradermoni-marketmoni-schemes

Iscoalarcon:
naptu2 please what is the meaning of ''August Visitor'' ? Local nigga is confused

August visitor = important visitor (especially when an important person makes an unexpected visit).

kynbasil01:
you mean that all the 36 state houses of assembly must also get 2/3 majority b4 constitution can be amended? What if some don't get it?

Not all. There must be 2/3rd of the votes in 2/3rd of the state houses of assembly. 2/3rd of 36 states = 24 states. So you need 2/3rd of the votes in 24 state houses of assembly.

DMerciful:
What is lacking is political will. All the barriers you mentioned are easily surmountable with the right political will.
I will check the SS -Ekwueme link

Scroll up, I've posted the whole interview here. I also tagged you in it.

By the way, although the tone of this thread makes it seem like northern legislators will not accept restructuring, but they have often voted for restructuring during constitutional amendments (I know because I've watched virtually all the amendment processes live on TV). The problem is usually the politics involved.

In order for an amendment to be enacted, 2/3rd of the Senate, 2/3rd of the House and 2/3rd of legislators in 2/3rd of the state houses of assembly must vote in support of it. There will also be public hearings in all the geopolitical zones of the country. Then the president must sign the amendment.


In 2017 the legislatures voted to amend the constitution and as part of that amendment, the National Assembly voted to hand over some of its legislative powers to the state assemblies.

However, members of the National Assembly also smuggled in some amendments that President Buhari objected to, e.g. immunity for legislators, making former presidents of the Senate and speakers of the House members of the National Council of State, etc. Therefore, President Buhari refused to sign the amendment.

See the full list of the amendments. Pay close attention to number 3.

https://www.channelstv.com/2017/07/27/full-list-1999-constitution-amendment/

DMerciful:
The amendments have been cosmetic! We need to throw away the Illegitimate constitution and WE THE PEOPLE will sit in a sovereign national conference and draft a people's constitution where there will be input from all ethnic nationalities! If we are to amend any constitution,
it has to be 1963 because that was when Nigeria
made the most progress!

Which will result in the exact same issues that we have now. How will people be elected to that conference? Who will conduct the election? What will be the difference between that election and elections into the National Assembly (that is, the people that can currently amend the constitution)?



The truth is that this is one of the utopian dreams that some Nigerians have (along with breaking up the country) which will only lead to the same problems that we currently have.

But it's alright to dream anyway. Black Americans once said that "We the people" did not represent them and that they wanted a piece of land to be given to them in Africa so that they'll start a new country of their own.



(By the way, have you discovered that the concept of South-South was Alex Ekwueme's idea?)