Politics › Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by naptu2: 4:25pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
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Crime › Re: Lagos Sends 30 Beggars To Jail by naptu2: 3:49pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
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Crime › Re: Lagos Sends 30 Beggars To Jail by naptu2: 3:37pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
naptu2: There's something missing in the article above & that's the voice of the people that were returned (note: returned, not deported). It also seems that people do not know the details of the Lagos State policy. Nobody is deported (that would be unconstitutional), rather, people are returned (which is constitutional and within the laws of Lagos State).
I'll be back with a description of the process that leads to someone being returned. naptu2: I'm going to recount from memory because I'm on the move at the moment, but I'll try to get articles, etc when I get to a place of rest. The sources for my memory are newspaper articles, documentaries of Lagos Television, news reports and even nairaland.
[size=14pt]The Process[/size]
1)The environmental laws of Lagos State (laws against street trading, begging, etc) have been in place at least since the 1970s (probably earlier). They've been reviewed quite a number of times (Akhigbe, Rasaki, Tinubu).
2) The process was fully established by the Tinubu Administration.
3) Beggars, street traders, destitutes, area boys, psychotics, etc are arrested by the Task Force on Environmental Offences.
4) They are given a choice: (a) go to prison (b) go to rehabilitation centre (c) return to your state of origin.
A) The law stipulates punishment for those who commit these offences. They include prison term, fine, forfeiture of goods.
B) Rehabilitation centres were set up (the most famous/infamous was at Ita-Oko Island). At the centres the inmates are sorted. They are tested for drugs. Those who are drug addicts are detoxified. Those who have mental illnesses are sent to the asylum. The inmates (apart from the lunatics) are then taught skills (skills acquisition centre) so that they'll be able to earn a living. When they complete the course, they are given a loan with which they will start a business and made to sign an undertaking that they will not return to the streets.
C) Return: Those who choose to return are transported to their state of origin. The state government is usually informed ahead of time (although I know of 3 instances in which their state governments claimed that they were not informed) so that they can make arrangements to cater for the people. Most of the people who have chosen to return are from the northern part of the country (note: they chose to return). [size=14pt]Press Releases
Feb 1, 2005 - LASG Completes N110 Million Ita-Oko Rehabilitation Centre[/size]
As part of efforts to offer comprehensive rehabilitation for social miscreants and youths in the state, the Lagos State Government has completed works on the Rehabilitation and Skills Acquisition Centre located at Tekunle Island (Ita Oko) near Ise along the Lekki Peninsula.
The 4200 square metre centre, has facilities for training residents in fabrication, carpentry weaving, an agriculture component (involving snailry, poultry and fish production), detoxification centre, clinic, and residence for 200 along with a staff quarter and helipad.
Lagos State Governor, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu who along with his cabinet visited the centre yesterday noted that by the second quarter of the year it would have become operational once the new tools had been fully installed.
He said the pilot phase of the rehabilitation programme will exclude females and will be based on offering the youths a n opportunity for change.
Sounding a note of warning that government's gesture if shunned by "area boys" will lead to dire consequences, Asiwaju Tinubu declared "anyone who refuses this good gesture and our goodwill to offer him/her a new life must be ready to leave Lagos".
According to him, the six months period of residence will not only lead to a complete rehabilitation but also lead to the internationally recognized trade test certificate.
The Governor also said the administration had envisioned a two pronged plan for rehabilitation after graduation either to become self-employed with a financial bank or employable.
He further said his administration plans to have other centres at appropriate areas in the state adding that government will continue to dialogue with miscreants and offer them the goodwill to change.
In a report presented by the Commissioner for Works, Engr. Rauf Aregbesola said about N110 million had been expended by the government in both phases of the rehabilitation of the centre.
According to him, the centre had been established as a slave post but was rehabilitated as a detention camp by the military government in 1985 with such facilities as 12 wooden dormitories, dwarf walls, steel poles and sand screeded floor.
While also stating that the project will be fully delivered by mid-March, Aregbesola urged that the necessary deployments by the Ministry of Youths, Sports and Social Development should be concluded.
Earlier while conducting the Executive Council round the agriculture component Dr. Jide Basorun, Director of Agric. Services disclosed that the facilities have capacity to sustain the centre through the production offish, poultry products and snailry.
According to him with a 1000 layer bird poultry, 2000 fish capacity aquaculture and 1000 capacity snailry, the centre can not only expand but has the yield to make the centre self sustaining. naptu2: I didn't post the link to the source of that article, but I'll tell you the source. It is taken from Bola Tinubu's website. naptu2: Now, for a bit of balance, a more critical article. Written by Reuben Abati, the article provides a lot more information (including figures of people returned, etc) naptu2: Before we go on, why is there so much emphasis on "Fashola"? These laws were inherited from previous administrations. The Tinubu administration also returned destitutes, etc and this action is being taken by the Lagos State Government (Ministry of Social Welfare). [size=14pt]The beggars' opera in Lagos[/size]
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IT is difficult to believe the statement allegedly made by the Special Adviser on Youth, Sports and Social Development, Dolapo Badru, to the effect that there is a law in Lagos state which makes the giving of alms to beggars anywhere in the state, an offence punishable by two years imprisonment without an option of fine.
He said: "Lagos state frowns on giving alms to beggars. It is punishable under the law and you can get up to two years imprisonment for giving money to beggars. We have places where such money can be put to good use. The government is committed to best practices in social care." The places under reference we are told are "churches, mosques, registered orphanages, motherless babies homes or social welfare institutions." The law and the determination to enforce it, is obviously an expression of government's frustration with the growing population of beggars in Lagos.
In the past few years, successive administrations in the state have adopted a number of measures to check the menace of beggars including the establishment of rehabilitation and vocational centres (to provide shelter and skills acquisition opportunities for the destitute), the deportation of beggars from other states of Nigeria to their states of origin, and the demonisation of begging as a way of life. But none of these measures has worked. Lagos is perhaps the only state and city in Nigeria whose population increases on a daily basis in an exponential manner. There is hardly any Nigerian that does not have a relation, close or distant in Lagos, and there is arguably no community in Nigeria that does not have some of its people in parts of Lagos including beggars!
Beggars flock to the city every day, and like others, they have no intention of leaving. Even when they are arrested by the state authorities and shipped back to their states of origin, they still manage to return. Lagos in the popular imagination is the Nigerian city where anyone and everyone can make a quick buck. Since 2007, the Fashola administration has embarked on a robust urban renewal programme. Lagos is now a much cleaner city, with its parks and gardens and with tax payers' money being put to work in many ways. The position of the Lagos state government it seems is that beggars constitute a nuisance, many of them are part-time criminals, and if they would not relocate to vocational centres, they might as well face the wrath of the state government. Having failed to convince or intimidate them, however, the state authorities are now warning all persons to desist from giving them alms. I really do not see how the Lagos state government can win that battle. In the past year, the state reportedly "deported" over 3, 000 beggars from Lagos. NEXT Newspaper reports that out of these, Sokoto State had the highest number of 196 beggars, Oyo State (83), Kano (75), Osun (67), Ekiti (21), Ondo (7), and from other countries- Niger (12), Chad (2) and Cote d'Ivoire (1). The state government should redirect its energies to more purposeful engagements.
There are too many contradictions in its chosen path. One, it makes no sense to "deport" a Nigerian from any part of Nigeria to another, whether that person is destitute, able or not. The Constitution guarantees the freedom of movement, and that right extends to beggars. Yes, beggars wander from one location to another, transporting their nuisance across the city, but wandering is not an offence. The law prescribing a two-year jail term for alms-givers, if indeed it exists, is ludicrous. In a country where those who burn down houses, kill in the name of religion, rape women, kidnap children, and sabotage the state are walking free, in a society where those who loot the treasury collect national honours and chieftaincy titles, it is those who give alms to the poor that we seek to send to jail for two years without an option of fine? That law will be difficult to enforce. How do you identify a beggar? Do beggars wear uniforms, or do they carry identification badges? The Lagos state authorities should avoid the kind of human rights crisis that occurred when a directive was issued that indecently dressed women should be arrested: many housewives, accused of exposing too much flesh ended up in police cells, resulting in public outrage. With regard to beggars and the destitute, the enforcement agents could end up arresting and molesting physically challenged persons who are already badly treated by the Nigerian state, and that will be most unfair, for it is not every physically challenged person that is a beggar.
And can a man be punished for spending his hard-earned money the way he likes? I earnestly await the day when anyone in Lagos will be sent to jail for giving alms to beggars! To give teeth to the law could cause a social uproar for it runs contrary to the people's religious and cultural beliefs. The Lagos state Government could be accused of an assault on the people's faith and belief systems. The two major religions Christianity and Islam encourage their adherents to give alms, to help the poor and the needy in society. This is a sacred obligation in both religions, and that is why the most popular haunts for beggars are places of religious worship. So established is the culture of begging, that in Lagos, there are at least two major beggars' colonies: one in Ebute Meta/Oyingbo, the other in Agege.
But the bigger issue is how the explosion in the population of beggars in Lagos and elsewhere in the country, is a function of the economic dispossession in the land and the high rate of unemployment. In Nigeria, beggary has become a way of life. It is one of the easiest occupations in the land. In part because of the religious belief that beggars should be assisted, it has become one of such occupations where investment is low and return is high. Often on Lagos streets and elsewhere you are likely to run into able-bodied men and women, neatly dressed, soliciting for alms as the traffic crawls. Then you have the so-called "corporate beggars": he or she tells you he just lost his purse, his English is impeccable, he is a University or college graduate, he is so persuasive, he wants you to assist him with "a widow's mite" and he asks God to bless you abundantly. He may even entertain you with an informed commentary on the state of the nation, with stinging criticisms of the Nigerian dilemma.
Out of pity, you'd be tempted to part with some money. A few days later, you may run into the same fellow again. He knows you. This time, he would change the story and even struggle to give you a copy of his resume: if you could help him get a job. Confused, you give him some money just to get him off your back. Or is it the woman with twins or a baby, her flattened breasts hanging loose, bearing all the worldly scars of deprivation and the wickedness of men, running after your car and begging you to help her child or the "ibejis" – you give her money and go to jail for two years? Or it could be the physically challenged, blind like a bat, lame like a possum, assisted by a younger man, who should be in school, the two of them joined together by a long stick, navigating crazy Lagos traffic, and there you are in your air-conditioned car, wondering why this world is so unfair to some people, and then you take a N50 note, moved by the entertaining prayers being showered on you and your future descendants, and you go to jail for that, for being human?
The Lagos State government should leave the beggars alone. Lunatics are also being chased off the streets. Why are they on the streets in the first place? This is the question to ask. When beggars are taken to vocational centres, they run away because it is more profitable to be on the streets. They have no faith in the Nigerian system. They know that they could be treated as if they were prisoners. They know that government officials could turn the maintenance of the centres into a source of livelihood, and an opportunity for looting state resources. What Nigeria needs is to address the distortions within the system. Beggars may never disappear completely from our streets, but if the factories can begin to function again, if the government can check the misfortune of de-industrialisation, if those trucks which used to ferry workers to and fro in the 70s and 80s can return to our streets and the warehouses that have been turned into churches can become warehouses again, the population of beggars should reduce. Nigerians love to work. But when there are no jobs, they become desperate, and constitute themselves into colonies and families of beggars.
The Lagos State government is targeting the beggars on the streets: has anyone considered the army of beggars that exists in every extended family? If you have a job in Nigeria, that job does not provide for you and your nuclear family alone, it compulsorily takes care of beggars within the extended family who monitor your movement and the salary payment season; often they lay ambush by your door, sometimes as early as 5 am, or very late in the night, with the plan to sleep overnight: eat, disturb your peace and still collect your money. Like the beggars on the streets, these family ones are also very good at praying. By the time they finish telling you all the wonders God has decided to do in your life, you will be tempted to take a loan to help them sort out their long list of problems!
Nigeria needs a strong social security system that provides for the poor, the weak, the needy and the aged. Nigeria needs a functional healthcare insurance system that can take care of the army of the poor, who go onto the streets with distended scrotums, blood-soaked breasts, broken and rotten legs, smelly injuries, soliciting for alms and pushing their wounds in the faces of decent people. Nigerian beggars are the children of a system that has gone awry and is in need of urgent repairs. When next I see a beggar, I will give alms as a good Christian. A two-year jail term? What kind of vexatious law is that?
Reuben Abati Writes naptu2: Now, my criticism of the article.
1) They did not interview Lagos State Government officials to get their own side of the story.
2) They did not interview the people that were "dumped" to hear their own side of the story.
3) It is clear to me that the story is designed to inflame passions (particularly with the use of the words "deport" and "refugees" ). naptu2: By the way, this practice is not limited to Lagos State. Abuja has also returned people to their states of origin. [size=14pt]Lagos, Abuja accused of dumping destitutes in Kaduna[/size]
September 18, 2009 | 12:02 am
By Emeka Mamah
Kaduna -Â Kaduna State Government, yesterday, accused the Federal Capital Territory (FCT), Lagos and Niger State governments of allegedly dumping destitutes in the state.
The state Commissioner for Women Affairs and Social Development, Mrs. Maryam Laka Madami made this known while briefing newsmen on the rationale behind the decision of the state government to repatriate destitutes in the state to their states of origin.
The state government’s joint task force for the relocation of the destitutes in the state evacuated about 2,000 destitutes from the streets and transported them in several truckloads to their states of origin, Monday.
The destitutes were escorted by anti-riot policemen to Katsina, Zamfara, Sokoto, Kebbi, Kano and Jigawa states.
Madami, however, said that the Lagos State government dumped the 65 destitutes at the Kaduna end of the Abuja-Kaduna expressway adding that some of the affected destitutes were non-natives of the state.
She further accused the FCT and the Niger State government of similarly dumping beggars in the state.
According to her, it was the action of the Lagos and Niger state governments, as well as the FCT, that forced Kaduna to send away those destitutes from its territory as the destitutes had constituted themselves into nuisance. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/09/lagos-abuja-accused-of-dumping-destitutes-in-kaduna/naptu2: These laws have been in existence since colonial time. Differennt administrations have adopted various strategies to combat the offences (Colonel Marwa used soldiers).
Begging = pan handling is against the law (in Lagos and most cities of the world)
Street trading is illegal (that's actually one of the first Lagos State laws that I learnt as a child).
Psychotics are meant to be in mental institutions
There are also associated offences (eg offences against the child rights act).
See environmental laws of Lagos State. naptu2: I was about to provide some context and background on the story, when I heard something (very funny) on the BBC.
Chinese officials have devised a new method of dealing with street traders. . . They stare at them (yes, stare).
This morning, chinese law enforcement officials gathered on a certain street and stared at the illegal street traders. After a few minutes the street traders left in shame and embarrassment. [size=14pt] Background and context [/size] Unfortunately, the Lagos State Ministry of Justice website has not been the same since it was attacked by hackers early this year. I was going to repost the environmental sanitation act. Environmental sanitation law has always been controversial in Lagos. People always complain about the state of the environment, but they complain even more when government takes steps to remedy the situation. Back in the 1980s people often quoted the report that stated that Lagos was the dirtiest city in the world. Foreign news stations often showed pictures of Oshodi, kids hawking in traffic (dodging cars, etc), heaps of refuse on road median, etc. The people often complain about the presence of lunatics who wander the streets aimlessly. Government response to these problems have included: 1) Colonial governments deploying health inspectors (the infamous "Wole Wole" ) to ensure that houses, markets, etc were kept clean. The people hated these health inspectors and accused them of bribery (I remember comedy sketches which depicted health inspectors stealing meat from people's pots in the guise of ensuring that the food was suitable for consumption). 2) Military governments deploying soldiers, policemen and other officials (environmental offences task force) to chase away beggars, street traders and other offenders. It was seen as a futile effort, because the traders and beggars would return to the same spot hours later. The law was amended to include the forfeiture of goods seized during such raids and imprisonment of offenders. The task force would seize the goods and burn them. Fela Anikulapo-Kuti sang The time around 1975 and '77, police go seize expensive goods dem go start to burn burn them. Army go go market, anything cost money go burn burn dem (2x).
Why dem like to burn the things wey dey costee money? Government fit sell to people cheape cheape. Government fit dash people wey no get money. And the burn burn na im dey sweet dem pass (burn and bribe). Na im dey sweet them pass. Oya oh, burn burn. (Fela Anikulapo-Kuti, "Confusion Break Bone", c1980) The people were sympathetic towards the traders and beggars and believed that the task force was cruel and inhuman. The public felt that these people were only trying to earn a living and their presence on the streets was a result of the economic decline caused by the government. It was also felt that sentencing these people to jail would mean sending them to a training centre where they would learn how to become hardened criminals (besides, the prisons were already over crowded. How many prisons would be built to accomodate the vast army of beggars and street traders?). 3) The return to civilian rule in 1999 ushered in a wave of ammendments to the law. The year 2000 amendment created the Kick Against Indiscipline Corps (basically, the environment police) and made the public-private system the only legal means of disposing waste in Lagos. It became illegal to patronise cart pushers and residents were given bin bags for free. Several markets were also closed because the market men and women engaged in street trading and improper means of disposing refuse. The 2003 amendment presented offenders with 3 choices, rehabilitation, repatriation or jail. This amendment was made because the government realised that the prison system was over crowded and thus it would not make sense to keep sending people who break the environmental sanitation laws to jail. Sending them to jail also created bad publicity for the government. Offenders would often be more hardened and a greater danger to the society when they were released than when they were sent to jail. It was therefore decided that jail term would be a last resort. Offenders would be given a second chance at life via the rehabilitation process. They could also choose to return to their home state via the repatriation process (some realised that it's better to farm in their home state, than to sleep on the streets of Lagos). Their home state government or relatives would be informed ahead of time, so that they can take steps to rehabilitate the returnees. For example, in the documentary I watched, the Kano State Government gave returnees some money to ease the process of resettlement. Indeed, it was discovered that gangs of criminals act as agents, ferrying people from their home states to Lagos for a fee, promising them jobs when they get to Lagos and subsequently dumping them on the streets of Lagos. These gangs are particularly active in Kano State and Niger Republic. The City of Kano used to be the great economic centre of the sahel region of Africa. People came from far and wide to work in the factories in Kano City. However, chronic electricity cuts have led to the closure of many factories. Criminal gangs promise to help these people get jobs as security guards, okada riders, etc in Lagos in exchange for a fee and dump the people on the streets of Lagos. In contrast, the rehabilitation and repatriation process would change the lives of offenders and enable them to become respectable and independent citizens. Further amendments to the law since 2007 (Fashola administration) have made it illegal to give alms to beggars. Citizens are expected to channel such donations to registered charities, orphanages, destitute's homes, churches, mosques and other such institutions. It also provided the option of community service for people who break the law. It should be noted that, under the law as it was before the 2003 amendment, the people who are currently being returned, would have been sent to jail. Finally, it's a pity that the author of the article that the OP republished did such a shoddy job. He should have interviewed the returnees and then interviewed Lagos State Government officials. This would enable the public to know whether the scheme is still being implemented the way it was conceived, or whether it has derailed (the rehabilitation process suffered a setback when the Ita-Oko centre was burnt by inmates. Please ignore the bigotry in the link https://www.nairaland.com/400138/area-boys-lagos-ibadan-action ). Rather than doing this, the author wrote a sensational piece (probably to maximise sales/views) that made it seem like the returnees were forcibly deported and that they were returned simply because of their state of origin. |
Crime › Re: Lagos Sends 30 Beggars To Jail by naptu2: 3:36pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
Sigh! I'm going to have to post it on this thread. Anyway, it contains much of the info. |
Crime › Re: Lagos Sends 30 Beggars To Jail by naptu2: 11:07am On Feb 05, 2013 |
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Crime › Re: Lagos Sends 30 Beggars To Jail by naptu2: 11:03am On Feb 05, 2013 |
Billyonaire: I witnessed a miracle at Adeyemo Alakija Rd, VI-Lagos some weeks ago. A blind beggar was escorted to my vehicle window to beg for alms. Unknown to the begging crew, there was a Lagos state task force vehicle by the other side of the road preying on them. On sighting the task force, the blind man regained sight and ran with the speed of a cheetah. That was the fight non-religious miracle i witnessed in 2013. Praise be to God.  |
Crime › Re: Lagos Sends 30 Beggars To Jail by naptu2: 10:59am On Feb 05, 2013 |
Some of the skills acquisition centres:
Epe Skill Acquisition Centre Eredo Village, Adjacent to Eredo Local Council Development Office,
Epe, Ijebu Ode Road, Eredo Epe.
Tel: 08056111965
Epe Skill Acquisition Centre Igbo - Oye Village, off Epe- Ijebu-Ode Road.
Tel: 08033538429
Ikorodu I Skill Acquisition Centre
45, Oriwu Road, Ita - Elewa, Ikorodu.
Tel: 08023417779
Kosofe Skill Acquisition Centre
9, Folashade Ajayi Street, off
Adebayo Mokuolu Street, Anthony Village.
Tel: 08034721168
Lagos Island Skill Acquisition Centre
Oja Oba Model Market Complex,
Adeniji Adele Road, Lagos Island.
Tel: 08023375408
Surulere Skill Acquisition Centre
Iyun Road, Beside Police Station,
off Western Avenue, Hogan Bassey, Surulere.
Tel: 01-8709118
Ejigbo Skill Acquisition Centre
Oshodi Isolo
LASTMA Compound, Ejigbo Road, Ejigbo. Tel: 08023602558
Mushin Skill Acquisition Centre
Olawoyin Street, Off Layi Oyekanmi Palm Avenue, Mush
Millennium School Compound,
Karimu Laka Street,
Tel: 08023213126
Amuwo-Odofin Skill Acquisition Centre
Council Development Area
Oriade,
Ijegu
Tel: 08033486587
Shibiri Skill Acquisition Centre
Shibiri - Ekunpa Road,
Shibiri, Ojo
Tel: 08062476097
Badagry Skill Acquisition Centre
Marina Road, Beside Divisional Libarary,
Badagry
Tel: 08023045263
Egan Skill Acquisition Centre
Egan Road, Igando Market Bus
Stop, off LASU Expressway.
Tel: 08023139747/07025292805
IBA Skill Acquisition Centre
Iba LCDA Compound,
Iba.
Tel: 08023964301
Ikor
Aga, Ikorodu. Tel: 08023417779
Ibeju Lekki Skill Acquisition Centre
Orimedu Town,
Off Eleko Beach,
Ibeju Lekki
Women Development Centre
Oba-Akinjobi Road,
Pen Cinema Agege,
Isheri Rehabilitation/Skill Acquisition Centre
Opposite Sweet Sensation,
Isheri-Olowoira,
Ojodu, Berger. |
Crime › Re: Lagos Sends 30 Beggars To Jail by naptu2: 10:49am On Feb 05, 2013 |
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Crime › Re: Lagos Sends 30 Beggars To Jail by naptu2: 10:32am On Feb 05, 2013 |
Some of the rehabilitated people are given loans by Lagos State Micro-finance Institution (LASMI) to start a trade. Some become drivers of LASMI cabs (those new yellow taxis you see in Lagos), some are employed into KAI, LASTMA, LAWMA, etc after undergoing training (although citizens insult them and call them area boys), etc. |
Crime › Re: Lagos Sends 30 Beggars To Jail by naptu2: 10:28am On Feb 05, 2013 |
ypzilanti: You can always tell a lot about a society by the way they treat the weak amongst them. Do we have rehabilitation agencies? Are there enough low skilled jobs?
Everytime I see Lawma stsff doing their jobs, I feel so proud of them. I imagine the pay is so small, yet they would rather work than beg. If they were to strike for a week, you would immediately see the impact of their work to society.
There are many areas in Lagos that need cleaning up. Why dont they offer these people training and cleaning jobs before jailing them when they refuse the offer? Actually, that's exactly what happens. Read about the rehabilitation centres at Tekunle Island, Surulere, etc (there are thirteen of them in the state). However, some that have received training eventually return to begging, some prefer one of the other two options (eg repatriation) and some area boys burnt down the rehabilitation centre at Tekunle. |
Crime › Re: Lagos Sends 30 Beggars To Jail by naptu2: 10:01am On Feb 05, 2013 |
wellmax: This of course will be met with serious criticisms. Yes. It's a massive ongoing debate on nairaland. The state government says it gives arrested persons these options and the person chooses the option he/she prefers. So it's "voluntary repatriation". Others counter that it is "deportation" (I.e people are forcefully removed) and therefore "unconstitutional". |
Crime › Re: Lagos Sends 30 Beggars To Jail by naptu2: 9:49am On Feb 05, 2013 |
Reminder of the three options:
1) Rehabilitation: includes drug testing, psychiatric evaluation, detoxification, psychiatric care and skill acquisition.
2) Repatriation: sent back to their states of origin (their state governments and/or relatives are informed that they are being repatriated and they may be given some funds to help them start a new life).
3) Prison/fine/community service.
The law applies to beggars, area boys, street traders, psychotics, agbero, etc. |
Politics › Re: Amanpour Interviews Nigerians In Lagos About Power Outage by naptu2: 9:24am On Feb 05, 2013 |
In Lekki I would love to say that the power situation has improved, but I'm holding out. Two weeks ago we had almost 24 hrs electricity for 3 days.
Why am I holding out?
In 2007 we had almost 24 hours electricity for two weeks! The battery of the diesel generator ran down. But after a while normalcy resumed. We had similar spurts and starts during the Obasanjo era.
Two weeks ago we had almost 24 hours electricity for three days. That week power supply improved considerably. Yesterday we had no power all day (they brought it late in the night and took it early this morning).
I will only heave a sigh of relief when the system is completely liberalised! When I know that investment is pouring into the distribution system, so that we don't experience blackouts when power generation increases, because the transformers cannot cope with the increase. When the transmission lines are able to effectively evacuate generated power and deliver them to the distribution centres. And when there's adequate gas delivered to our power plants and we are investing in alternative sources of energy.
I will only praise the person that can deliver consistent improvement in power supply, rather than the one step forward and one step backward we've been experiencing since 1999. |
Politics › Re: b by naptu2: 9:11am On Feb 05, 2013 |
I would have posted pics of "Musiwa's Army on the march", but unfortunately Seun deleted the thread. |
Politics › Re: b by naptu2: 8:53am On Feb 05, 2013 |
emmysenior: There's no analysis here, only the satellite images without keys/legends, you haven't really explained why there's going to be war. Could it be because of the lopsided rankings in the army or what? Or the distribution pattern? Always back your analysis with explanation. Heh! Please o! Have you seen Musiwa's analysis on his award thread? Please don't make him post another thread-long, full-length map, such that you won't be able to decide whether to scroll up or scroll down. |
Politics › Re: b by naptu2: 8:32am On Feb 05, 2013 |
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Politics › Re: b by naptu2: 8:29am On Feb 05, 2013 |
Musiwa, in the interest of innocent civilians and for the safety of all, I think you need to repost the pick up points where innocent civilians will be rescued by your army once the war breaks out. |
Fashion › Re: Betty Irabor On The Cover Of Genevieve Magazine by naptu2: 6:40am On Feb 05, 2013 |
Orikinla: . 56? How many years ago? She is more than 56. Some years have disappeared?  I still remember the thanksgiving mass @ Catholic Church of the Assumption Falomo, Ikoyi, when she turned 50 (I was there). That was in 2007. If I count on my little fingers, that's 6 years ago. See here for more details: http://lindaikeji..com/2007/03/betty-irabor-50.html |
Fashion › Re: Betty Irabor On The Cover Of Genevieve Magazine by naptu2: 6:24am On Feb 05, 2013 |
56 years old Betty Irabor is a journalist, founder of Genevieve Magazine and wife of veteran broadcaster Sunny Irabor (ex NTA and Radio Nigeria and now a media consultant and founder of Sunny Irabor Communications Limited and Ruyi Media).
She met Mr Irabor in 1982 when she went to cover Onyeka Onwenu's album launch.
She founded Genevieve Magazine in 2003. |
Politics › Re: Lagos To Introduce Cable Cars For Mass Transportation. by naptu2: 5:54am On Feb 05, 2013*. Modified: 6:35am On Feb 05, 2013 |
I really love when these projects are undertaken in Lagos. I remember how I argued with people between 2005-2007 about the BRT project. Today those people are still alive and can see the system in operation. I remember how people scoffed at the idea of the suspension bridge (go check the thread https://www.nairaland.com/829205/fashola-inspects-ikoyi-bridge-now ), but now I see it everyday when I go for my evening walk. I'm just waiting patiently for this project and Eko Atlantic City to finally take off (God grant us long life). |
Politics › Re: Lagos To Introduce Cable Cars For Mass Transportation. by naptu2: 5:45am On Feb 05, 2013 |
Afam4eva: It won't be the only mode of transportation but shouldn't even be discussed now that we have pressing transportation issues. We should focus our attention at the necessities. I would have agreed with you if this was a government funded project, but if a private company gets a license from LAMATA and a loan from ADB and decides to undertake the project, do you really expect the government to say no? Remember that this is not the Soviet Union and also remember: naptu2: Exactly. This is the way it looks to me (from all my investigation).
1) Private company decides to invest in this (they are not in business to throw money away).
2) LAMATA, as the regulator of transport services in Lagos, approves and grants a license to the private investor to carry out the cable car business. LAMATA has a name to protect and would have ensured that it is safe.
3) African Development Bank gives the investors a loan to carry out this business. The bank is not in the business of throwing money away and also has a name to protect, so they would have done their own feasibility studies. |
Politics › Re: Nigeria: The Good, The Bad, The Beautiful, The Ugly. by naptu2(op): 10:32pm On Feb 04, 2013 |
haruna1970: @ naptu2: Thanks for reminding us of our past. A good historian is the one that knows that of his people. You make me proud as a Yoruba man and more important as a Nigerian. Thanks once again. Thanks very much. |
Celebrities › Re: Wole Soyinka And Sister In 1940 (Picture) by naptu2: 10:21pm On Feb 04, 2013 |
[size=14pt]RIGHT TO REPLY – “We regret forming Pirate Confraternity”
NAS' Response To An Article Published by THIS DAY Newspaper[/size]
On 23 February 2005, you published an article headed “We regret forming Pirate (sic) Confraternity”. The article was written by one Adebayo Aderoju and appears to be anchored upon views that emerged from an interaction with Professor Muyiwa Awe. Professor’s Awe’s historical connection, from 1952, with others that led to the formation of the Pyrates Confraternity is common knowledge. So is the revered Professor’s own publicly expressed view about his parting of ways with the organisation. Adebayo Aderoju’s article, we may note in passing, also relies on yet another source, namely the book: Ibadan Voices: Ibadan University in Transition. This makes it all the more surprising that he failed to make use of the correct spelling of the word ‘Pyrates’ as deliberately adopted by the founders of the organisation, and maintained till now.
We have allowed some time to pass since the publication of that article in order to see whether there would be any further clarification from source, since we were at a loss to understand just who or what initiated this abrupt interest in the original fraternity. Since none has been forthcoming, we must conclude that the article sets out the views both of Mr Aderoju and Professor Awe. Our intention here is principally to draw attention not only to the inaccuracies in the said article but also to observe that it is a defamatory and irresponsible journalism. We believe that it would have been appropriate to have sought our views in order to present a corrective account of what has been gratuitously distorted by your writer.
We are sure that you are fully aware of this organisation’s distinguished antecedents particularly as you have, yourselves, covered several of our activities in the past. We remind you of some recent instances. In November 2004 you carried details of the petition we wrote and served on the Senate Presidency; Speaker of the House of Representatives and Governor Donald Duke of Cross River State urging the Federal Government to conduct a plebiscite to determine where the people of Bakassi wanted to belong (see This Day November 2004). On 31 December 2004, you covered our activities in relation to the memorial of 6 of our members who were slain by the police in unlawful circumstances in December 1983. This involved contributions made at a public lecture on that occasion in relation to the Police in Nigeria (see This Day, 31 December 2004). On 14 February 2005, you published our press release on the ongoing National Political Reform Conference entitled National Dialogue; How National? On 28 February 2005, you published coverage of our annual Feast of Baracuda in Enugu, Enugu State where the theme, Nigerian Criminal Justice System was extensively discussed and the case clearly articulated for an urgent intervention into the dehumanising conditions of prisons and prisoners in the country. The examples we cite are only within the last 12 or so weeks. We continue to declare ourselves ready, in the future, to assist you in presenting, as fully as possible, accounts of our activities that will truthfully educate the public regarding just what we are, and what we stand for.
Now, to the inaccuracies. First the claim that apart from Professor Wole Soyinka none of the founding Seven remains active in the organisation is, to say the least, astonishing. This, with respect, is a crass lie. We confirm that two other original members of the organisation continue not only to be linked with but also associate and remain active within the organisation. We can also affirm that the departed three – the most recent of whom was the famous broadcaster, Ralph Opara – died ‘in active service’ and was given a befitting send-off by the Confraternity, as can be attested by his widow and family.
Your writer’s comments that represent personal opinion strike us as narrow, unsubstantiated and sensation seeking. We are concerned however where such opinions are conveyed as seeming facts and create the unpleasant impression of an attempt to confuse issues in the public mind. We take issue with some of the factual accounts upon which the article is raised only to the extent that they appear to represent views other than the opinions of either the writer or his sources.
From that position, we call attention to two issues that have given rise to this article. [b]The first is discernible from the attempt to closely identify the organisation that was formed in 1952 in the University of Ibadan, one that now enjoys both national and international membership, with those unspeakable entities that exist in the tertiary institutions. The National Association of Seadogs has consistently proclaimed that it has no existence in schools or universities of any description. The decision to withdraw from campuses was made in 1984 and embraced both primary (campus) and national bodies. Do note also the national body of NAS came into being in 1978.
From 28 July 1984, the primary arm of the organisation was proscribed completely. The whole nation was put on notice as advertorials and news announcements were made. Simply put, our organisation does not exist in any form in schools, universities or any institution of higher learning and we challenge anybody to produce evidence to the contrary. Any campus organisations that claims association with NAS is illegal and should be firmly dealt with by university authorities. Since any such have no connection to us, we have no control over such a situation. To contend, by some perverse quirk of reasoning, that we could stop the acts of pervert clubs on campus is to arrogate to us responsibilities and control far beyond rational comprehension. It is illogical to suggest that there is any situation in which one can be held responsible for impostors. NAS deplores the existence of those organisations and, together with anyone else whose interest it is to see that this situation is brought to an end, would support any measures that are designed to achieve this result. As we stated recently (see The Sun of 28 August 2004); -
“it is illogical to expect that we can bear any responsibility for those who illegally put themselves forward as our members. That is a law enforcement responsibility. It is also incumbent on the institutions to take proactive steps to deal with those whose actions offend their rules and regulations. Those who break the law must, we have always insisted, be prosecuted to the full extent of the laws of the land, without exception”.
To place the burden of impersonation on the victim of such criminality is so warped as reasoning that we can only wonder that any thinking individual can attempt to sustain it. The nation is riddled with impersonators of police, military, customs, and religious entities. No one has yet taken the authentic bodies to task for the acts of such criminals. Those who seek to assert the opposite face merely raise question marks on their rational competence.
The prevalence of violence in the educational system in the country is to be seriously deplored and systematically confronted. It was the prevalence of this situation that constrained us to dissolve our existence in those institutions, remembering that at the time, membership of the fraternity on campus was less than 30 percent of the total membership nationwide. Our organisation foresaw the recent situation as long ago as July 1984, over 20 years ago. Those who suggest, without evidence, that there is connection between the formation of our organisation and what developed in the early 80’s and has prevailed, to date in waves of terror and wanton violence have failed abysmally to explain, with any lucidity, how our organisation has contributed to this process. The real reason for this failure is obvious, as Professor Wole Soyinka so aptly put it in the "Descent of the Barbarian and the end of the Collegial", a lecture he delivered in honour of the then retiring Justice Kayode Eso, when, in commenting again, upon the persistent linkage of the PC with the "cult culture", he said
"...Those who blame today’s advent of the barbarians on the first college fraternity –the Pyrates - that was founded in this nation, perhaps on the entire continent, merely advertise themselves as moral cripples who try to ward off bad news by fabricating distant alibis. It is far more honest to confess a failure of social will than to seek excuses in some distant origin, one that bears virtually no resemblance to the conduct of mimic upstarts. Such commentators may believe that they know their history, but it is fragmented and superficial history, distorted by the psychosis that goes with surrender to evil forces. Even more critically and relevantly to the collective responsibility of finding a solution, they acknowledge a dangerous ignorance of the society they live in, or the ability to situate a malaise in its appropriate social context. They ignore the contextual workings of social decadence, such as how even time-honoured institutions - philanthropic, cultural, all the way to the modern NGOs - are being impersonated by corrupt versions in tune with the total collapse of society. Nothing lasts in this nation, nothing. Religious institutions – be they Moslem or Christian – are filled with charlatan offshoots, many of which are demonic variants, or else purely commercial ventures, marketing sanctimoniousness with the same sales patter as the vendor of designer clothes or cosmetics…"[/b]
We take the view that this comment is one of the most mordant responses to those who hold those views about our organization delivered by its most influential advocate.
Professor Awe’s right to entertain regret about his involvement in the formation of the organisation is a position to which he is entitled. What we as an organisation do resent, in the strongest possible terms, is the attempt to create the impression that the organisation formed in 1952 metamorphosed into those responsible for perpetrating some of the most bestial acts ever experienced in our tertiary institutions. We will never tire of refuting this position or continue to demand the strictest proof from detractors. We have said enough in this respect to enjoy the entitlement of being left alone to continue to pursue our extremely noteworthy social objectives.
Let the nation also take note that it is on record that our organisation has spent time and resources in seeking to assist successive national and state governments by providing what we consider to be workable suggestions which, taken in tandem with others, would have introduced a more effective method of combating the problems of criminal campus cults. We expect to be making additional contribution to the ongoing national conference in this and a number of other respects. We also feel, additionally, that those who believe that the seriousness of the problem is such that functional measures should be implemented can and should be encouraged to do so without the necessity of demonising references to our organisation. Such activities are mere distractions, a cover-up for the lack of workable ideas. We are confident that such reference will have little significance on the viability of the proposals that emerge from such an exercise.
In this connection - and we state this in all responsibility - the government may wish to demand of our institutions how the funds that were disbursed to them some years ago for the eradication of campus cults were utilised. We shall have more to say directly on this issue. It is important that the nation be made aware how serious, frivolous or cynical has been the approach of some our institutions of learning to a menace that constitutes the greatest internal challenge that has ever confronted the university idea.
We express, in advance, our gratitude to you for giving this response the same prominence that you gave to the original article.
Signed:
ANDREW OBINNA ONYEARU NAS Capone National Association of Seadogs (NAS) 7th March 2005 http://www.nas-int.org/nas-press-releases/529-right-to-reply-we-regret-forming-pirate-confraternity.html |
Celebrities › Re: Wole Soyinka And Sister In 1940 (Picture) by naptu2: 6:24pm On Feb 04, 2013 |
[quote author=agi-tuedor]Yeah...that's officially. As at 2004, the Pyrates still operated in Delsu and UNIBEN. Even as I admire their modus operandi, the PC is being hypocritical in most it's claims... Pyrates still sails on decks![/quote]Precisely! And that's the youth gang I wrote about. Hope you understand my post now (please read the press release for better understanding. I could post it here). |
Politics › Re: Lagos To Introduce Cable Cars For Mass Transportation. by naptu2: 6:15pm On Feb 04, 2013 |
Why do people keep acting as if the cable car system (LCCT) will be the only form of transport in Lagos?
I've already posted details of the BRT, LRT, Eko Water Buses, LASMI cabs, park and ride bicycles, NRC trains, etc.
(Remember, private cars, danfo, molue, etc also exist). |
Celebrities › Re: Wole Soyinka And Sister In 1940 (Picture) by naptu2: 6:11pm On Feb 04, 2013 |
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Celebrities › Re: Wole Soyinka And Sister In 1940 (Picture) by naptu2: 5:50pm On Feb 04, 2013*. Modified: 6:10pm On Feb 04, 2013 |
[quote author=agi-tuedor]It is called "National Association of Seadogs Aka Pyrates Confraternity"....visit the website www.nas-int.org and see it well pasted. So, don't try to confuse us... I have being opportuned to attend some of their lectures. It is Pyrates Confraternity, and students, also called in Pyrate speak, ABCs, are members. In my early days in schl, my bros then was a Pyrate...[/quote]Read carefully and understand. Does the National Association of Seadogs have branches on university campuses?naptu2: Wole Soyinka leads the National Association of Seadogs (NAS), which is a legitimate organisation that does not have branches on university campuses.
The "Pyrates Confraternity" (which is actually a youth gang, rather than a confraternity) on university campuses is an illegal organisation that has no connection with the National Association of Seadogs. National Association of Seadog's press release explaining their withdrawal from university campuses in 1984, etc. http://www.nas-int.org/nas-press-releases/529-right-to-reply-we-regret-forming-pirate-confraternity.html |
Politics › Re: Lagos To Introduce Cable Cars For Mass Transportation. by naptu2: 4:46pm On Feb 04, 2013 |
I'm going to track this project like I tracked the BRT system and Lekki-Ikoyi link bridge. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Winners' Chapel Broadcasting Network On Satellite by naptu2: 4:22pm On Feb 04, 2013 |
Ishilove: Craze people full NL sha.  Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! |
Celebrities › Re: Wole Soyinka And Sister In 1940 (Picture) by naptu2: 4:08pm On Feb 04, 2013 |
[quote author=agi-tuedor]Serious? But the Pyrates still do "inis" on Campuses... I know a couple of friends who lobbied and made it..[/quote]Wole Soyinka leads the National Association of Seadogs (NAS), which is a legitimate organisation that does not have branches on university campuses.
The "Pyrates Confraternity" (which is actually a youth gang, rather than a confraternity) on university campuses is an illegal organisation that has no connection with the National Association of Seadogs. |
Nairaland General › Re: The Weird Ones Of Nairaland!!! by naptu2: 4:00pm On Feb 04, 2013*. Modified: 9:27am On Jun 01, 2013 |
My favourite nairalanders 1) Adesegun Musiwa: aka Becomerich (1-100), Becomericha, Nigeria1, Nigeriaone, Complove, Eguofor, Tayo4life, Bashali, Uche2005, Uche2008, etc. Goal: to excise the Western Niger from Nigeria and amalgamate it with Benin Republic thereby makiing the North a majority. 2) Mr Cork: aka Dr Cork, Corky Joe, Mr Nyansh, Great Cork, One Cork, etc. He really means no oooffeince with his 18 inch cork. 3) FStranger(1-100): aka YStranger, StrangerF, Igbaodun, Ojogbontomoye, Papatosibe, Anti-Tpia, WoeuntoOAM4J, Meonbooty, Cunninlingus, Arsenefc, Le Ostrich, Geekinthelead, etc His goal is to provoke and upset as many people as possible. 4) Almondjoy: aka Blazay, Lasinoh, Bootyonme, Gambrosia, Calloti, Militia, Jellitia etc. FAYA DEY GO NNE-MAMA!!! CALLOTTI De HALLOTTI De SALLOTTI. 5) MrCrackles. aka Brashy. |
Celebrities › Re: Wole Soyinka And Sister In 1940 (Picture) by naptu2: 2:42pm On Feb 04, 2013 |
"Civil servants 'voluntarily' donated a percentage of their salaries to the war effort, to a special fund called 'Troops Comfort Fund'.
Regarding that 'patriotic exercise', there was one exception, one of a virtual handful, who defied that hysterical phase of patriotism - this was my elder sister Tinu, then deputy principal of the Nursing School of the University Teaching Hospital, Lagos. She had nothing against keeping Nigeria one, offered no opinion regarding how one went about it, but as long as her brother was in prison detention without trial, nobody had better touch her take-home pay! She refused to sign the 'voluntary donation' form and declared her lack of interest in comforting any troops. Throughout the entire period of national jingoism, indeed, throughout the war with Biafra, no one dared touch Tinu's salary.
"You Must Set Forth At Dawn" by Wole Soyinka (published by BookCraft, Ibadan. 2006) p166 |