GloriousGbola: Two years ago a friend of mine Asked me to say some Mc rhyme So I said the rhyme I'm about to say The rhyme was - - - - - and it went thus way
naptu2: In my mind it seems like that line has existed forever. Do you know how many rappers have said it?
Two years ago, a friend of mine, asked me to say some M.C. rhymes
There are some artistes that release a song, then vanish (they are like one hit wonders), then appear again many years later (and you'll be wondering if it's the same person) and then they'd disappear again, etc. That's what this series is about. It was inspired by the second person that I'll feature.
This particular song had moderate airplay on radio stations (even in Nigeria). I remember the song because I thought it was funny and also because some of the people that he mentioned responded. There was no video, so I didn't know what he looked like and I kind of forgot his name because he vanished after this.
Then he reappeared in 2003 with gigantic hits and I was wondering if it was the same person. Nobody mentioned his 1999 song and it had me confused.
50 Cent's First Incarnation
Here's what actually happened. He exposed a mafia boss in the 1999 album. He didn't necessarily do it in a bad way, he just rapped about the guy. But the mobster did not want publicity and he felt that the song made it easier for the police and the FBI to know what he was doing. He blacklisted 50 Cents. No radio station in America could play 50 Cent's songs. No studio would record his material. Nobody would book him. In fact, he ordered a hit on him (that's why 50 Cent was shot).
50 Cent had to go to Canada to record more music and the songs flopped because nobody would play them.
In fact, people thought that this was the reason that Jam Master Jay of Run DMC was killed. Jam Master Jay owned a radio station and his radio station played the music that 50 Cent recorded in Canada. Armed men entered the radio station one day and shot him to death. However it was later discovered that Jam Master Jay had his own problems.
Nobody talked about the fact that 50 Cent was blacklisted. That's why I thought that he had vanished.
However the FBI arrested the mob boss (for another reason) and their investigation revealed that he had ordered the hit on 50 Cent. That's when people started talking about the issue. It was after this that 50 Cent released his 2003 album that was a huge success.
I remember that a lot of rappers responded to this song. People like Jay-Z and Big Pun insulted 50 Cent, but my favourite response came from Wyclef. He didn't insult 50, instead he went one better. He rapped,
I stay so hungry that if 50 Cent came to rob me. He'd be part of my charity
This was the first 50 Cent song that I ever heard.
What do you do if you are a legendary group that's had tons of hits, but your recent releases have all flopped? Well, you pull out all the stops and come out with guns blazing. That's what happened here.
It was a new decade and hip hop was undergoing a revolution. Run DMCs songs flopped and barely made it into the charts. They turned things around by
1) Getting every rapper that was a rap star to appear in this video. I'm talking about Kriss Kross, Naughty By Nature, A Tribe Called Quest, PM Dawn, Salt N Pepa, KRS-1, Jermaine Dupri, Das EFX and many more.
2) Getting younger rappers that were on top of their game to feature on the track. Pete Rock & CL Smooth featured on this track.
3) Going back to what worked. This song contains a lot of rhymes from old Run DMC songs like Sucker MCs (1983) and Run's House (1988).
It worked. The song was a massive hit.
Run DMC featuring Pete Rock & CL Smooth - Down With The King (1993).
naptu2: A minute's silence in honour of Jam Master Jay.
I'm not certain about who killed Jam Master Jay, but this is the most persistent rumour.
I first heard 50 Cent in 1999 when he released a single called How To Rob. The song caught my attention because it was humorous and he name checked quite a lot of stars (he was rapping about stealing from these stars). Quite a few rappers responded to the track (Jay Z, Big Pun, etc). Most of them launched counter attacks, but the reply I loved the most was not a counter attack. Wyclef replied with, "Low Income, I stay so hungry that if 50 Cent came to rob me, he'd be part of my charity".
Anyway, 50 Cent vanished after that track and I didn't hear him again until he released Get Rich Or Die Trying in 2003 (I was thinking, "I've heard this voice before". It took me a while to remember How To Rob). So, what happened to him between 1999 and 2003?
Well 50 Cent also released a track called Ghetto Qu'ran in 1999 and the track was about the activities of a notorious mobster called Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff and his gang which was called "The Supreme Team". McGriff was not too happy about this and he ordered that 50 Cent should be blacklisted from the US music industry. Columbia Records dropped him and radio stations refused to play his songs. McGriff also put a hit on him and it's believed that this was what resulted in 50 Cent being shot 9 times in the year 2000. He had to move to Canada in order to be able to record mixtapes.
Jam Master Jay had gone into production during Run DMC's decline in the early 1990s (he founded JMJ Records) and 50 Cents was one of the first people he produced. Jam Master Jay continued to mentor 50 Cent after he left JMJ Records and even after he was blacklisted by McGriff. It is believed that this infuriated McGriff and on October 30th, 2002, at least two armed men invaded 24/7 Studios which was owned by Jam Master Jay. They shot and killed Jam Master Jay and injured other people that were in the studio at the time. One of the armed men was Ronald "Tenad" Washington, who was shot dead a few weeks later.
His death pained me because Run DMC were the most peaceful and harmless rappers that I could think of.
Run DMC was made up of rappers Joseph "Run" Simmons, Darryl "DMC" McDaniels and their DJ, Jason "Jam Master Jay" Mizell. Run's brother is the hip hop mogul Russell Simmons (Def Jam, Phat Farm) and he and his Def Jam co-founder Rick Rubin produced and promoted Run DMC.
It was revealed during an episode of Run's House (on MTV) that it was actually Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons' idea that Run DMC should do this song. Run DMC didn't really like the idea of doing the song at first. They eventually did the song and it became the first rap song to get into the top 5 of the Billboard charts. I absolutely loved the original version of this song and I love this version even more because it brings two of my favourite groups together. Many people have tried to mix rock and rap together, but only a few have succeeded. This, in my opinion, is the best mix of rock and rap ever.
In the video we see Run DMC trying to rehearse, but they can't because Aerosmith is rehearsing in the next room and Run DMC can barely hear themselves because of the noise from Joe Perry's guitar. They try to tell Aerosmith to turn it down, but that doesn't work. Then Jam Master Jay had an idea. He went out of the room and came back with ginormous speakers. The wall of sound that emanates from those speakers stops Aerosmith in their tracks and roles are switched as Aerosmith is now trying to get Run DMC to turn down the noise. Steven Tyler eventually breaks through the wall and confronts Run DMC.
Then we see them on stage. The groups are competing over which group can wow the audience, Joe Perry vs Jam Master Jay; Run and DMC vs Steven Tyler. Eventually. . . they collaborate.
The original was
Aerosmith - Walk This Way(1975)
This is
Run DMC featuring Aerosmith - Walk This Way(1986).
I was looking for an album or video version, but I could only find live versions, but now I have found an album version.
Do you know that he might have been killed because of 50 Cent? I think I've told you the story before, but I'll tell you again.
Sometime around 1999 I heard this funny song by an unknown rapper called 50 cent. I guess that the song explained why he was called 50 Cent. The song was basically about how he was poor and was planning to rob all the stars. I can no longer remember all the stars that he wanted to rob (I haven't heard the song since 1999), but I remember the stars that responded. Jay-Z and Big Pun counter attacked on their tracks, but my favourite response was by Wyclef Jean, who rapped, "If 50 Cent came to rob me, he'll become part of my charity" (basically saying that he was so poor that if 50 Cent came to rob him, he'll have pity on Wycleff and donate to him).
Anyway, I didn't hear from 50 Cent again till 2003 when he released several hits. I wondered what had happened to him because it seemed like he suddenly appeared and disappeared again, for no reason at all.
Well, 50 Cent made fun of a mobster in that 1999 album. Not only did he make fun of the mobster, he actually revealed some of the mobster's illegal activities. The mobster subsequently issued a ban on 50 Cent. No radio station would play his songs and no record company would have any dealings with him. 50 Cent had to move to Canada in order to be able to release music. That's what led to the problem.
Jam Master Jay owned a radio station and his radio station played one of the songs that 50 Cent released while he was in Canada.
Armed men broke into the radio station one night in 2002 and killed Jam Master Jay and injured the other person that was with him. Many people believe that he might have been killed because his radio station defied the ban.
However, others say that Jam Master Jay, who was usually a law abiding person, was owing the IRS a lot of money and that he tried to get into the cocaine business so that he could pay off the government. They claim that he was killed because he didn't pay his supplier for the cocaine that he sold.
There were many theories about who killed Jam Master Jay.
1) 50 Cent had released a song about Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff, leader of the Supreme Team gang and McGriff was not happy about it. He ordered a hit on 50 Cent (50 was shot 9 times) and placed a ban on 50 Cent's music. Radio stations would not play 50 Cent's songs and studios would not record his music.
However, Jam Master Jay was one of 50's mentors and his radio station played 50's music. Some believe that Jam Master Jay was killed because of this.
2) Jam Master Jay had campaigned gainst drug use in the 1980s and 1990s. However, he became broke and owed the government (IRS) a lot of money in back taxes. Some say that he turned to drugs to earn money to pay the IRS and that he was killed because of a drug deal that went wrong. They say that he was owing his dealer.
3) Some say that his godson and childhood friend killed him because they were cut out of a drug deal.
Jam Master Jay death: 'Brazen murder' of Run-DMC star was fuelled by greed and revenge, prosecutors say
Monday 29 January 2024 Reemul Balla
The DJ was fatally shot in his New York studio in 2002. Nearly two decades later in 2020, two men, Karl Jordan Jr and Ronald Washington, were charged with murder and on Monday their trial got under way.
Run DMC star Jam Master Jay was killed by his godson and a childhood friend who were both motivated by greed and revenge, say prosecutors, as the defendants' murder trial began.
The 37-year-old DJ, whose real name was Jason Mizell, was fatally shot in the head in his New York recording studio in 2002.
He was part of one of the best-known rap acts of the 1980s.
In 2020, Karl Jordan Jr and Ronald Washington were charged with murder and on Monday their trial got under way in New York City.
Prosecutors said godson Jordan and childhood friend Washington became enraged after being cut out of a lucrative drug deal.
Mizell had allegedly acquired 10kg of cocaine which Jordan, Washington and others were planning to sell in Baltimore.
However, the dealer involved in the sale refused to work with Washington, removing the defendants from a possible $200,000 (£157,000) payday, prosecutors alleged.
On 30 October 2002, the two men allegedly entered the star's studio in Queens in an "ambush".
Prosecutors say Washington waved a gun and told one person to lie on the floor, while Jordan shot Mizell in the head at point-blank range, killing him instantly.
Another shot hit and wounded another man in the studio at the time, Mizell's friend Uriel "Tony" Rincon, before the pair fled, prosecutors said.
Both men have pleaded not guilty to the charges. If convicted, they could face at least 20 years behind bars.
The death penalty is not being sought for either defendant.
The jury was told they would hear from witnesses who were in the studio that evening and that the pair confessed to others about their involvement in the incident.
Miranda Gonzalez, prosecuting, said it was a "brazen murder" adding: "Each defendant was proud that they had taken down Jam Master Jay and got away with it."
What does the defence say?
Jordan's lawyer, John Diaz, said his client wasn't even at the studio on the night of the shooting.
His legal team has said in court documents that Jordan, then 18, was at his pregnant girlfriend's home at the time of Mizell's death and witnesses could state that.
Washington's lawyer Ezra Spilke argued the case was held together with "tape and glue" and stated prosecutors have "no clue" who killed the DJ.
Mr Spilke questioned why Washington would want to kill Mizell since Washington relied on the rap star financially.
"Why bite the hand that feeds?" Mr Spilke said. "Why kill the one man that was helping you?"
A third man, Jay Bryant, was arrested and charged in 2023 and he will be tried separately in 2025 or 2026.
Run-DMC stood against drugs in their lyrics, but Ms Gonzalez said as careers waned, Mizell became involved in them and could make "hundreds of thousands" of dollars with a few simple calls.
The group also included rappers Joe "Run" Simmons and Darryl "DMC" McDaniels, and they had hits such as King Of Rock, It's Tricky and a reworking of Aerosmith's Walk This Way.
FLASH: Governor of Lagos State, Mr @jidesanwoolu and other Stakeholders today witnessed the arrival of CMA CGM SCANDOLA, an LNG-powered 14,812 TEUs container vessel, which berthed at the Lagos Lekki Deep Sea Port - Nigeria's most modern and deepest seaport.
UPDATE: Governor of Lagos State, Mr @jidesanwoolu and other Stakeholders today witnessed the arrival of CMA CGM SCANDOLA, an LNG-powered 14,812 TEUs container vessel, has berthed at the Lagos Lekki Deep Sea Port - Nigeria's most modern and deepest seaport.
The CMA CGM SCANDOLA has an overall length (LOA) of 366 meters and a width of 51 meters and it is the first LNG-powered container vessel to sail to West Africa arriving first in Tema before coming to Lekki Port.
The Lekki Deep Sea Port is the only port in Nigeria with the facilities to receive such large container vessels.
Governor Sanwo-Olu, commended the management of Lekki Port, Lekki Freeport Terminal, and CMA CGM for this major feat in the Nigerian maritime industry and other achievements since the commissioning of this port.
Lekki Port LFTZ Enterprise Limited (LPLEL) is a joint venture enterprise owned by Lekki Port Investment Holdings Inc (China Harbour Engineering Company Ltd. and Tolaram); 75%, The Lagos State Government; 20% and the Federal Government of Nigeria through the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA); 5%.
naptu2: Do you know that NAFFAC still exists? What is the name of the director general of NAFDAC?
Can you give me an answer without searching for it?
To a casual observer it might seem like NAFDAC has only had two directors general, Professor Gabriel Osuide and Professor Dora Akunyili. That's because it was during the tenures of these two professors that NAFDAC vigorously enforced its regulations.
Anybody and I mean absolutely anybody could open a chemist/pharamcy/patent medicine shop in the 1980s and the shop owners acted like emergency doctors and pharmacists combined. Some of these shop owners were not educated beyond the primary school level.
Then came NAFDAC in 1993 and they ensured that every "chemist" had a pharmacist present in their store. NAFDAC's enforcement teams went around with policemen to shut down any chemist that did not have a pharmacist.
NAFDAC also banned the establishment of places that sold alcohol within 100 metres of schools and other places that children usually congregated.
It was also at this time that cigarette companies were banned from advertising on TV and radio before 10pm.
Professor Osuide was the director general of NAFDAC at this time and he did very well.
It seemed like NAFDAC died after he left and nobody heard about them until Professor Dora Akunyili was appointed as the director general.
Professor Akunyili developed a system for distinguishing between fake and genuine drugs. It's called the NAFDAC number. Producers must have these numbers on their products and consumers can verify if the numbers are genuine by sending a text message to a NAFDAC phone number. She regulated the way that traditional medical practitioners advertised their services and completely banned the advertisement of cigarettes and alcohol on TV. NAFDAC inspection and enforcement teams visited factories across the country to ensure that food and drugs were being produced in a healthy way. Many fake drugs manufacturers were arrested and prosecuted. Attempts were made to kill Professor Akunyili because of her determination to enforce the rules.
Unfortunately it seems that NAFDAC once again vanished from public view after Professor Akunyili left office.
KillahPriest: I was almost taken in by the name also and the sensationalism for clicks via false news is why I always have a problem with Nigerian bloggers. Nice move by seun, common sense must return to Nairaland by force
I don't want to post its username, because it's banned, but if you can find its profile you'll see the number of hidden posts on it.
1) The name of the blog is similar to PM News newspaper, but they are not PM News. It can easily deceive people.
2) They have sometimes published sensational news that's not true and the mods have moved the threads to the front page because they thought that it was published by PM News newspaper.
Caveatemptor: Excellent thread as usual, however I am surprised that you failed to mention the BAR BEACH SHOW on NTA channel 10 in the late 70s and early 80s. The Bar beach show was the precursor of all the shows you have mentioned here. The Bar beach show was hosted by the late John Chukwu and former Miss Nigeria Rosemary Anieze Adams and was a regular musical show on which musicians and bands of the day were invited to play popular songs for a live audience,who were invited to the open floor to dance to the music played.
Once again, excellent thread.
The Bar Beach Show was in the late 1960s and 1970s (it's mentioned in the post about Art Alade). This thread is about 1980s shows.
aswani: Good work getting this info here naptu2 but if this is the Jamaican Eddy Grant, then this isn't true completely.
Eddy Grant did come to Nigeria in the late 70's, I can't remember the label that invited him, and he stayed for between 1 and 3 months.
He cut and album or two and played in a lot of Lagos clubs during that period. He even did a track in Yoruba sef which was incredibly brave of him.
The "many years" part of the stuff in Wikipedia I am definitely sure didn't happen. I guess Eddy Grant might have returned to Nigeria once in a while but still an exaggeration to say many years.
I think they got that from the fact that he did return to Nigeria many times. (He's actually from Guyana).
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rap and rock.
