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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:18pm On Jan 05, 2023
Another injury. Pulisic is fragile. There's no way he didn't pop his knee in that tackle.

May be now Omari will play by default.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:17pm On Jan 05, 2023
We are not doing badly.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:06pm On Jan 05, 2023
Leyqute:
Why is Mason Mount not playing?
Mason is injured
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:04pm On Jan 05, 2023
Na wa o. Another injury.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:01pm On Jan 05, 2023
Go boys. We can do this.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 8:19pm On Jan 05, 2023
BlueMann:
Church is the hole? cheesy
Hehe. Auto correct. I edited now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 8:10pm On Jan 05, 2023
BlueMann:
Either a 4-2-3-1 with Pulisic as 10, or a 3-4-3 with Pulisic as WB

It is most likely the latter

Omo cheesy
I read it as a 3-4-3 as well with Pulisic as one of the WBs. But it could be a 4-3-3 with Ziyech in the hole behind the forward line.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 7:47pm On Jan 05, 2023
It looks like a 3-4-3. I always prefer a 3-4-3 ...especially against City.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 7:21am On Jan 05, 2023
@Ibime you mentioned Marcus Thuram the other day. It looks like he's now on our radar. €20m value apparently.


Meanwhile I have been looking at this Mudryk guy. Must admit I didn't really know him before. Has anyone seen a player more ambidextrous in modern football?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:32am On Jan 04, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
you must be dumb ,since I joined here I have never copied any body comment, it's only transfer articles , stick to to throwing shade at boehly ,bye.
Hehehe. For real?

Young man, you might never have been told this, but YOU DO NOT possess the intelligence to decipher anything or anyone dumb.

You don't even have the intelligence to understand basic punctuation when writing, yet you want to pass on the understanding of the complexities of FFP and multi-club ownership as your own.

This is why I called it copy and paste. I know this because in all of your 1 million child-like compositions, you have failed to mention the single most-important reason Boehly doesn't mind paying over the odds for Enzo, but wants it NOW. You have never been told, so you are unable to know this your own. I will tell you, so you can copy and paste elsewhere.

ENZO is 21, and still according to the provisions of FFP, considered an Academy player. Therefore all expenditure on the Academy is outside of FFP scrutiny. So Boehly can write off all of the expenditure as development funds. You understand now?

Why does Boehly want it now? Well Enzo turns 22 on the 17th and therefore any deals made afterwards are subject to FFP.

Smart move but he's still overpaid....grossly! And that's why the bone of contention has been about the price paid, not whether Enzo is required or if Boehly is smart.

But you are trying to form intelligentsia when you know nothing. You think it's by posting every second.

I no dey fight on here but if it will happen, at least I will prefer some real G with average understanding of their own position, not some nitwit who doesn't appreciate the proper use of a full stop.

Come at me again, and I will phucking destroy you.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 5:22pm On Jan 03, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
two ways to bypass FFP, continue spreading transfer fee, buy another club
Hehehe. Copy and paste.
Oya explain.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 8:31am On Jan 03, 2023
Bimffo:
Boehly inexperience in understanding transfer. Yen Yen Yen.

As if the football directors he employed are only there as figure head.

And as if the same people have not signed players for way less for this window.
Alhaji. You are just forcing the issue. Enzo cost just about £10m only 6 months ago. We have paid over 1000% the value of this player only 6 months ago.

To put things in perspective, this has never happened in football. If I am wrong please remind me. Do you even understand the gravity of this maganess?

While we can agree to give them credit for finding cheap deals, it must not be overstated. This is what they are there to do. So we should not use this as a yardstick to excuse financial stupidity. You seem to be stuck in a zone explaining that because these people are directors, they cannot make mistakes. I can consistently tell you that all the 'directors' Boehly employed have not sanctioned this much money on a single player in their entire careers. So what's to say they understand value at this level?


Enzo is a good player. World Cup credit on top, £55m max, given his history. But we have been maga'd on a mega level - just like Cucurella and Wesley Fofana before this. Stop making it look otherwise.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 12:18am On Jan 03, 2023
User09:
What is this Boehly blame I see going round?, I hope you all maintain the same energy by blaming Potter for all the money spent as u did for Tuchel.

As far as I'm concerned Potter is also responsible for this transfer especially for someone who cost 10 million just 7months back and hasnt played that much in Europe

Blaming TT for everything that went wrong despite it being clear Boehly was chasing his own agenda with the data sports crap.

Clearlake Model, my ass!!
Big TT fan here. There was data stuff by Boehly and then there was just poor transfer nous and squad management from TT. We have to admit. For once, TT had what was a blank cheque, to build a proper squad. He could have pointed to anything he wanted, and he would have got it. Those guys were ready to spend. But he squandered it.


If TT had managed the midfield needs very well, then one could argue that there probably will be no need for Enzo now. Fine player but like you opined, worth less than £10m only 6 months ago. To say we have seriously overpaid, is a grand understatement.

And yes, the same energy will be applied to Potter when he's given £400m worth of players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 11:15pm On Jan 02, 2023
airmark:
I need a striker like Costa that can bury this. grin

https://i.imgflip.com/761jd6.gif
Based on what I have seen on Fofana, I strongly believe he can be that guy.

To be honest, that is the one single transfer target that I look forward to.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m):
airmark:
We need strong players in the team, especially in the Midfield. Physicality is zero.

That Kone is there, and will add solidity to our middle. The likes of Azpi, Jorginho, Loftus Cheek, need to be shipped away, as they have tried, time to go.

Mount needs to work hard as he was below par today in the middle. Pulisic needs to hit the gym as he is looking meek on the ball in some moments, while Sterling should start learning Arabic as he should join Ronaldo in Saudi Arabia soon.

Koulibaly running like a pregnant woman, was terrible. I don't mind trying Chalobah and even introducing Badiashile against Man city. We need to present a solid team on Thursday.
We have problems with many players. Recruitment over the years has been shocking. We would have a chance to correct that starting from this window.


From what I have seen, I think he is not tactical, and especially not bold and inventive enough. When you are playing badly, you need a manager who is bold enough to make strong decisions and try new things.

But I have a feeling Potter is weak, doing the same thing over and over, thinking things will change. This is important, seeing that he is doing the exact same thing TT did, but expecting different results.

I expected to see a radical change, new training and set up during the world cup gap to transform the side.... but I see even though he got a life line, he's completely wasted it. He just went to a back 4.

For instance, it's clear to see that Pulisic and Sterling are not creating enough, but I think Potter is afraid to cut their minutes and try something new. He has Hutchinson and Hall sitting on the bench game after game, and he's there probably shitting his pants, wondering what Sterling and Pulisic might feel about not playing in the game.

Play Chukwuemeka, or Casadei, or even Hall in midfield.....just something for a change.

I fear he's not the type of manager you give a long term project to.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 8:04pm On Jan 01, 2023
MorataFC:
Any genuine Chelsea fan that still believes the top 4 is feasible this season needs to be flogged Messilessly grin

I laughed when someone said we will make top 2 if we sign Enzo grin

Even if Pele and Maradona were resurrected from the dead and we sign them they can't rescue us from this mess.
Sebi na why dem dey shout £100m about. They believe in this stupid fantasy that Enzo walks in, and we just become Man City overnight.

We are talking about strength in depth, they are talking about splashing 100m on just one player.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 7:54pm On Jan 01, 2023
Ibime:
I ask them how many assist he gave at Brighton last season when we decided to splash £63m on him, they answered 1
£63m down the drain. Then we have another one who's not even played for longer than 5 mins for £75m.

In only a few days, people started downplay Ben Chilwell's achievement, because he'd been out for while.

Stupid spending of over £100m, and we are still here.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 7:26pm On Jan 01, 2023
Absolutely shocking. I don't even know where to start from.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 11:23am On Jan 01, 2023
Happy New Year to everyone.

Happy birthday to you Nihilist and Odunharry. Hope you guys have a fulfilled year
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 12:32am On Dec 31, 2022
WhoDeyHause:
Which young rightback do you suggest we go for that will agree to be benched by James? I heard ibime taking of dujon sterling. If his injury troubles are gone maybe we can try him.
Which injury troubles does Dujon have? Not aware of this. We can always call him back. Always felt TT made a stupid mistake by letting him go when he could have been good cover.

Meanwhile a good long term solution I will propose is buying back Tino Livramento. We have a first refusal on a buy-back option and Southampton are probably getting relegated.

Solid RB, solid incentive RWB, still only 21...Chelsea through and through.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 5:52pm On Dec 30, 2022
popizaino:
2023 is around the corner,change your pattern of argument before the new year.


You are not real Madrid, it will be foolish of me as an indigene of Osun state to expect my governor to spend like Wike or Sanwo - Olu. We don't generate the same revenue. Cut your coat according to your size. Spending a whooping 120m on a centre/defensive midfielder is foolishness for a club like Chelsea just because real Madrid could sign a DM for 80m.

If real Madrid is signing a DM for 80m,Chelsea should be looking at that player for 40m max.


You can only spend such money on a midfielder when it is the last piece missing in your puzzle. When you have a great Barcelona team without iniesta,you can break the bank to have that kind of player. Similar to how Jupp heckneys signed Martinez from Atletico Bilbao for huge sum to complete his great team to win the treble but doing it in the manner of Chelsea doesn't make sense.


Our attacking three is practically dead,both the LWF and RWF are as good as none existence but the CDM position that can be delayed till summer is were we are breaking the banks for. So how much do you want us to sign forward players if you are signing a midfielder for 120m ?
How this simple argument eludes them is totally mind boggling. They think as long as you say 'it's not my money'...then it's right to spend anything at all on a player.

This lot just want to see shiny new toys. They don't realise that in the end, Chelsea, by FFP, is still not allowed to spend more than it generates in revenue, no matter how wealthy your owners are. So yes, it is 'OUR' money, and very stupid to conclude otherwise.

See LordFalcao and Bimfo that I expect are already familiar with these terms and conditions, not like the new mumu ones, are also joining in the mumuism and shouting 'calculator' all over the place.

These types of ill-educated arguments is why other people label all Chelsea fans as one.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 2:28am On Dec 30, 2022
airmark:
Chelsea are not a team that pick a young prospect to displace a player earning 300k per week. Even them Mount and James had to go on loans before accidentally bursting into the team. The likes of Hutchinson in Brazil, would have got league experience by now. Endrick no do pass what many of these guys had done and he has played a league season in Brazil.

Using Brazilian league and Chelsea/England situations to evaluate our academy player, won't cut it.
I like this post. Especially the part in bold. Many don't remember. Not for the transfer ban and Lampard, James and Mount are just another Livramento...and their careers on different paths unfortunately. They did indeed, accidentally, become first team players.

I remember as clear as day, people on here claiming nothing special about James in his first few months. Now we all admit our season goes to shit when he's out. It's only been 3 years to reach that level.

In Brazil, these guys would have been playing in the first team forever.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 2:17am On Dec 30, 2022
RIP to The Great. The GOAT of goats - Pele.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 12:15pm On Dec 29, 2022
airmark:
In like 2 to 3 years time, this boy should be shinning like a diamond.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVv9BMUJC3U
On my radar.

I mentioned a few days ago that he's been called up to train with the first team.

Expect good things from him. In ability, he is easily 2 levels above the best to come out of the Academy. Hopefully he can put in the work and harness that ability for pro-football.

But good to see Potter has noticed him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m):
FBS:
Ibime never followed him, you never did, certainly I did not. Not sure if anyone did.
As per Ibime's theory - never sign a player from the World Cup - James Rodriguez comes to mind.

Amrabaat is energetic, committed and I watched his 50m recovery run- I like that but he also gave the ball away in dangerous areas.

My concern is this - are you guys proposing the club buy this guy because he is on a cheap or because he is good enough. Is he the long term solution or a quick fix?

Forget all those half turns megedefegede Ibime mentioned, strikers have way better half turns, that's how they are sometimes able to beat their markers in tight spaces.
I am proposing him because in my opinion, he is good enough. All what Bimfo is putting together is highlights. 'He gave the ball away in dangerous positions' is highlighted arguments. How did this happen and in what circumstance?

Everybody gives the ball away. But what did he do after? This is absent from the analysis. Now that's what I want to see from my DM. Imagine what will happen if Jorghinho gave the ball away to Mbappe on the half way line against PSG?

The way I see it, Morocco did well at the WC but still had a team with some average (but well drilled) athletes who had tendencies to put their team mates in positions that led to giving the ball away. For me, what Amrabat showed was technique, positional awareness, creative advancement of play, recovery pace and solid defensive awareness. That's what I need from my DM.

Does the price play a part? Yes it does. Like I say, the focus has always got to be strategic squad building with strength in depth. £100m on Enzo and Jorginho as back up is not strength in depth. It's just stupid spending.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 12:53am On Dec 29, 2022
Ballzproblem2:
I'm not saying he is worth it, I'm saying we need Midfielders like now ,hence desperate times calls for desperate measures,and if it is to trigger Enzo Fernandez clause,so be it ,see as casemeiro change man U Midfield set up ,is it worth paying that amount for a 30 years old? no ,is it necessary yes
There is necessary spending and then there is just exorbitant insane spending. I am sure we can all come up with 50 reasons why it is 'necessary' to spend £300m on Mbappe but it doesn't mean you do it.

The likes of us were wondering why we spent over £130m on Fofana and Cucu in the summer when we have Levi Cowill, Dujon Sterling and Chalobah that can do a job. See where we are now.

And then you go on a tirade of calling those asking for responsible spending stupid and foolish.

Good player but why is it necessary to spend over £100m on Enzo when there are a ton of options?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:34am On Dec 28, 2022
Sulele04:
I don't understand how signing best young player in the world Cup isn't a good deal.

This guys literally has the ability of a complete midfielder as we have seen in the world Cup.

Can play dm is aggressive and has very good passing ability and composure, also we have also seen that he can play box to box cause he also has that attacking ability from the vision of long passes to long range shots.

He is not even a world Cup signing, he has been shining for Benfica both in the ucl and league.

Definitely a top talent that has a high celling.
He is still just one player. One wrong move and he's injured, we are back to where we were. For the same amount you can solidify the midfield, with strength in depth, by picking up bargains here and there. Not splashing it all on one player.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:09am On Dec 28, 2022
FBS:
Is that based on his world cup performances or have you been following the player before that?
Last I remember, you've always preached against signing players who perform well in the said tournament?
I echo Ibime's view on this. Though I never followed him before the world cup, you need only 20 mins to know if someone has it or not for midfield play. The guy was a standout technical player, without being a world cup star.

Not sure if you saw this 50m recovery sprint to stop Mbappe against France. That for me was yet another moment that just highlighted his recovery pace and intelligence.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:03am On Dec 28, 2022
Na wa. Another over £100m player. I don't tire. I swear I thought we were in the market for Alvarez, Amarabat, and Zakharyan. We could buy all 3 and still get change on €120m and would have solidified that midfield defensively and offensively for years to come.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 10:42pm On Dec 27, 2022
popizaino:
grin grin grin grin grin grin

It is the argue like Dayo for me grin
grin grin grin You can bet he's coming for me.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 10:40pm On Dec 27, 2022
Ibime:
They should recall Dujon Sterling for now and plan well for the summer
They should call Dujon Sterling for now and plan for the summer.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 10:26pm On Dec 27, 2022
donstan18:
Jota has 46 G/A in 93 games for Liverpool.

Harvertz has 44 G/A with UCL, Super Cup and World Club Cup trophies for Chelsea.

If you must belittle Fraudvertz, Jota shouldn’t be used. smiley
I thought we all agree not to argue like Dayo. What have the trophies got to do with anything?



The facts are Havertz and Jota transferred to Chelsea and Liverpool at the same time. In that time Jota has scored 34 goals for Liverpool and Havertz 27. Jota cost £41m and Havertz cost £70m. Why are we hiding behind trophies?

In any case, the larger point was that spending big money doesn't guarantee anything as evidenced by Havertz and the others I highlighted earlier. Similarly, spending £200m on Rice and FDJ could turn out to be lavish spending when there's value for money everywhere. Our best players over the last 3 seasons have been Mount and Reece James. Guess how much they cost?

The Rice train has passed. We should have kept him when he was in Cobham.

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