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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 9:57am On Jun 19
DeepSight:
May heaven help those you train.
They will end up in QAnon.
Na delulu special.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 7:24am On Jun 19
benalvino3:
So the peace deal is already dying.
Iran will ask their proxy to attack Israel and expect Israel not to react.
Of course you want the deal to die as it serves your "nuclear bomb over Gaza" interests.

When it paid you to allude a win to Trump, you hailed a deal. Now that you see that same Trump agrees a deal that ostracises Israel, you are happy to report the deal is dying.

Let Israel go back home and see if they still get attacked. If they don't want to go back home, let them go and fight Iran on their own.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 6:42am On Jun 19
bayelsaowei:
Wait.. the VP said all this?

Is it that they just woke up from a dream?

These words below are exactly what the world has been saying about Israel’s never ending rage.

You can’t kill your way out of every single national security problem..

I guess my response to them would be – what is your exact proposal? You're a country of nine million people. You can't just kill your way out of solving every single national security problem that you have,
What is interesting to note is that these are the evidences that will be used by the ICC against Netanyahu and the whole genocidal intent in Gaza and subsequently in Lebanon.

Yesterday it was Trump, and now Vance going full scale on it. There cannot be higher prominence in the world on the topic.


JD Vance is invariably saying that they are people who never seek diplomacy, but just want to kill their ways out of a problem.

When such sentiments spill out of the boardroom and into the press without caution, we can no longer deny who we are dealing with.......Genocidal mayyniiiiacs.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 6:30am On Jun 19
cococandy:
They’re so bamboozled right now. Bemeruca is probably crying but wants to distract us with Michelle Obama conspiracy.

We are talking about USA bowing down to Iran because of Trump’s folly and he’s busy discussing Michelle Obama’s pregnancy photos from decades ago.

When you let yourself be a fool, they’ll use you do Yeye. Trump is using them to do yeye and they don’t know how to react.
Haven't we said it a thousand times? We have all known that it is only a matter of time that Trump will yeye their heads on a very serious topic and expose these grown men as genocidal murderous empty shells lacking in principle on anything.

Like I say, this cognitive dissonance get 12 legs.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:33am On Jun 19
This movie sweet pass world cup I swear.


JD Vance on Israel:

"What I will say, and this does bother me, is that you've seen people within Bibi's cabinet who have come out and attacked the deal, and in some ways very personally attacked the president of the United States,"

"Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time, and he happens to be the head of state of the world superpower," said Vance. "If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world"


"The other thing that I would say is that over the last three months, two-thirds of the defensive weapons that have protected your homeland have been built by American hands and paid for by American tax dollars. The problem for Israel is not Donald J. Trump, and anybody in Israel who thinks their biggest problem is the president of the United States needs to wake up and smell the reality of the situation that country is in."


"I guess my response to them would be – what is your exact proposal? You're a country of nine million people. You can't just kill your way out of solving every single national security problem that you have,"





You don't say! Abeg somebody give me eye drop. E be like say I no dey see well.

It looks like JD Vance has been bought by Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah and the dead Ayatollah.

Because........which kain confusion come enter MAGA zombie camp like dis?. 😀😀😀😀😀
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:03am On Jun 19
basilico:
Utmost ignorance. If Trump had not cancelled the deal, Iran would be free to create the bomb and missiles right now
Why don't you use a chatbots and ask it the sand question
TDS .
Hormuz can't be given, Iran is a terrorist nation . There are other straits in the world that don't belong to any nation.
You might want to know why US Marines were formed , you have a long learning curve .
Utmost ignorance. Iran is actually freer to create bombs and missiles right now. Matter of fact when asked about Iran's ballistic missile program only yesterday, Trump had this to say:

"No I want.....I am dating if other countries have them, it is a little bit unfair for them (Iran) not to have some. Ballistic missiles is not the same thing as what we are talking about....."

Yes, my friend....I know you are in a perpetual state of confusion right now.

Pele.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:49pm On Jun 18
IjeBos:
I mean wishing a country to drop a Nuke on another country and kill millions of people I think qualifies as long gone.
Don't be nice. Call them exactly who they are. Asinine ethnocratic murderous lot.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 10:58am On Jun 18
bayelsaowei:
🤣🤣😂😂..

Trump is now a terrorist sympathizer..

Basilico, benalvino3 and the blood thirsty Raumdeuter .. come and carry Trump o.. I can’t believe I just read this.. the same thing we’ve been complaining about only to be called terrorists on this group.

Isreal leveling buildings with the claim that everybody in that building is either a terrorist or that those buildings are filled with humans who are being used as shields.. so the solution is keep blowing down buildings.. and some insane Nigerians clink their glasses to that..
You will see magic in real time. Watch them avoid this like a plague, whilst simultaneously firmly holding the same positions on both sides.

Cognitive dissonance wey get 12 legs.


Iran don divide and conquer through resilience.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m):
President Trump: ....

“Israel is fighting Hezbollah too long, and too many people are being killed,”

“You don’t have to knock down an apartment house every time you’re looking for somebody. There are a lot of people in those apartment houses, and they’re not all Hezbollah.... that I can tell you”



You don't say! You mean Israel is doing too much?

The Israelis are having quite literally collective nervous breakdown and going bunkers over this statement and that's our signal for popcorn time.

Trump officially launched "America first vs Israel first bomb" inside the MAGA camp and I am all for this mutiny.


Oya Basilico, Dayo and all the other weyreys. Who is right, Trump or Israel? 😁😁😁
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 6:20am On Jun 18
Another day of unintended consequences of the Iran War.

If you have been following the aftermath of the Iran war and the MoU between US and Iran closely, you would have known that Israel was completely excluded from the negotiations.... (and I agree. The perpetual warmongering murderous lot should be excluded). But as you can imagine the Israelis are extremely furious.

Now that the texts of the MoU have leaked, Israel are going even extra bananas seeing details that defy belief.

Trump has unintentionally, but effectively led the whole US/Israeli pact down a path of inevitable conflict.... by being classic Trump, and choosing the survival and eventual legacy of his own Presidency ahead of Israeli foreign interests........ And I am loving this! 😀😀😀😀😀
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 5:52am On Jun 18
basilico:
My regret is that the Ayatollahs are too entrenched to be removed from power, they showcased debauchery killing over 30,000 of their own people.

A deal that permanently blocks them having nuclear weapon in the end is worse than Obama which guaranteed them a pathway after 10 years? This must be mind gymnastics.

Iran has been sanctioned for years with their assets frozen. If a deal is to be made the frozen assets will have to be availed to them..

If there was congressional support for the war,I believe the outcome would be different. When half the country and 99% media is negative and treasonous,with upcoming elections and high pump prices ,Trump couldn't literally get everything he wanted. That's quite clear.
You'd be happy if Iran obtained a bomb. Yes or no.
Literally everything that I said even before the 12- day war. I then told you a few days after 28 February that you are in for a rude awakening.

A rude awakening is now unfolding before your eyes because you exceedingly underestimated Iran. You lot's problem has always been the lack of awareness outside your echo chamber.

I gave you that for free.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 10:54pm On Jun 17
Ibime:
I sha hope Tuchel is not intending to use Stones over Guehi all tournament
Looks like he is.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 10:21pm On Jun 17
This is War!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:50pm On Jun 17
What a game! 2 all.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:41pm On Jun 17
2-1
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 9:36pm On Jun 17
See goal.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:01pm On Jun 16
basilico:
Don't think you've ever heard the word retooling.
Ogbeni deal with the points of facts, and spare me grammar lessons.

When you are cut in a corner, you start pivoting to nonsense.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 1:58pm On Jun 16
raumdeuter:
In the unstable mind the GCC will abandon the US and place their defence strategy in the hands of those who depend on the US

The sheer folly in abandoning a direct access to US protection and going to those who themselves depend on US for protection

Korea and Ukraine will still come to Washington soon to beg for arms to defend themselves. Countries who cannot protect themselves are protecting others. Anything makes sense to nateevs thats why he was asking where is Netanyahu
There sheer folly is with Trump, who despite knowing that the US had a supply chain problem, ignored the potential outcomes of a conflict with Iran, and led the US down a path where it will struggle to deliver munition requests from allies, for several years.

Already Taiwan, Japan, Saudi Arabia, South Korea are on a renewed two-year delay in the supply of critical defensive munitions, as a direct consequence of this Iran war.....but you want them to sit idle and wait for two years..

This is what you call folly? grin grin grin grin


Secondly, you are so full of yourself that you think only the US makes weapons. It's emblematic of your "direct access" phrase...I tell you that the likes of Ukraine and South Korea have developed and tested their own anti-anti-drone ddefensive capabilites, whereas the US hasn't, but you are talking about "direct access"

Direct access to what? Weapons that don't exist?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 1:06pm On Jun 16
basilico:
The USA drones are expensive. I mentioned FPV and suicide drones as being the new threat if you remember.
Don't expect the GCC to buy drones from Raytheon. They will buy from China.
The GCC also knows that the Rafale, Typhoon are good fighter jets so they can buya few from Europe.
That's diversification not abandoning America.
What do you mean "don't expect the GCC to buy drones from Raytheon......" I never said anything about drone technology. I specifically mentioned anti-drone technology which are defensive capabilities. Not offensive.

The discussions were never about offensive tech.


Also who said the UAE was abandoning the US. I will quote what I said again for clarity. You guys lack comprehension.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:43am On Jun 16
basilico:
Which country will they engage to protect their ships from Houthi rebels and Somali ship hijackers? To protect them if Iran decides to launch missile at them.
Don't just make claims, back it up .
IDF Iron Dome is protecting UAE. I doubt at this time UAE still support Hamas efforts to drive all Jews to the Mediterranean.
Again, don't be stewpid. You find the claims and debunk them. Have they or have they not looked to form military alliances with other countries for several components of defence? The answer is yes.

Why are you making this my claim. It happened. It happened because of degraded confidence in the US' ability to protect them.

Your questions should be directed at the GCC, not me.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:36am On Jun 16
raumdeuter:
Your take was silly and uninformed, How will you decouple from the US an go meet the country that is coupled with US for protection
Have you lost your mind? What part of this is uninformed? That it didn't happen? The GCC countries are looking to form alliances with the likes of Ukraine, South Korea and China for several components of their defensive protection. For example anti drone protection.

What part of this is uninformed? I understand that it is a shock to you that this is what is happening in real life, but unfortunately, it is one of the unintended consequences of Don Tzu's war.

It is not my take. It is exactly what is happening. If you have intellectual challenges understanding this, it is not my problem.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 10:40pm On Jun 15
raumdeuter:
The point is South Korea cannot even protect themselves alone without US help, So its the same Korea that cannot protect themselves will be the one to protect the GCC countries

The information you get from "Where is Netanyahu" is laughable Is this the latest release?
This is a stewwpid take. What exactly are you disagreeing with, the fact that these countries are all looking to decouple from sole US defensive dependence? That's just true information.

So what are you disagreeing with? Whether or not they will be safer doing so is a matter of discussion down the line. So I am not sure what your gripe is.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 9:01pm On Jun 15
raumdeuter:
South Korea depends on the US to protect it from North Korean aggresion

So the country that is dependent on the US is the one The GCC countries are now looking to other countries to form military alliances with

Oh you are so informed, thats why you were asking "Where is Netanyahu"
Hehehehe. I will try again.

You are shocked right? So were the GCC counties until Iran came and blew them all away, including the supposed US bases that were providing said protection.

You might still be asleep, but the entire world has seen that 30k trips on your soil counts for phu.ckall.

Matter of fact, the US had to go borrow the THAAD system stationed in South Korea, after Iram destroyed all those stationed in the middle east.

You think South Korea is waiting to find out like the UAE, Kuwait and Bahrain?

Even Taiwan is starting to look at normalising relations with China after seeing the "protection" that the US really offers.

Again, you are not informed.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 4:34pm On Jun 15
basilico:
What military alliance would the ME form without weapons purchases.
China and Russia air defences were crushed in Venezuela and Iran within minutes. Totally obliterated. Who will buy their air defense systems that were meant to detect and shoot down f-22, F-35s and B2s.
And Iran rendered US Patriot and THAAD Systems as well as Israeli Iron Dome and Arrow systems completely ineffective.

And that's the point. The GCC countries were getting hit after hit after hit by Drone swarms and Missiles, with a reported paltry 10% interception rate....... and as though that was not embarrassing enough, they were getting annihilated by a cost differential of 4000 to 1.

Not only were they exposed militarily depending solely on the US defence technology, they were going to be bankrupt defending themselves, shooting PAC interceptor missiles in the air at $2m/$3m a unit. That's a completely unsustainable defence pact in the face of real war.


At the same time, Hezbollah is destroying the IDF in Lebanon with FPV drones.....Now they are finding Iron Dome Batteries and destroying them with full load of missiles in them. That's $100m damage time after time, with $1000-rated drones and they can do phuc.kall about it.

The GCC countries see all this. And this is why they are actively facilitating the peace talks. You Trump zombies might tow a strict line creating alternate reality, but there is a reality our there that others must interpret and live by.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 2:45pm On Jun 15
raumdeuter:
Shey these countries have names? Give their names na
South Korea, China, to name a few.

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