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Ibime:
Let me see. Rwandan genocide killed half a million in 100 days with just machetes

Israel with major bombs only 65k in 2 years

Make it make sense

The world's accepted definition of genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.

Time and duration have never played a part in our historical collective understanding on what constitutes genocide.

E enter Israel now, una dey find sense up and down.


Compared with anything we've listed so far, the world's accepted Bosnian genocide had 30k to 50k victims over a period of 4 years.

You still want it to make sense?

Genocide does not cease to be because it hurts your feelings.

Ibime:
Who is the independent arbiter? One woman employed by the UN?

Biafran war that killed 2m people wasn't considered a genocide. Make it make sense.

The whole world agrees on the Rwandan genocide. Official figures put the number of victims at 500k to 650k.

raumdeuter:
In the real world murderous actions have consequences

The people who got wiped in Hiroshima Dresden Nagasaki were all humans

I am glad you agree. In the real world, the crimes of Israel in the massacre of Sabra and Shatila has consequences.

Don't shout about Oct 7th 2023.

raumdeuter:
Its been several days after the ceasefire and you are still very sad. So sad extremely sad that people reading would think you actually lost someone or something in the war much more than what the actual Gazans did

Again, your head is always empty of information and capacity to understand scepticism.

Let me tell you what has happened since this announcement....... over 150 Palestinians have been murdered by the IDF.

But you don't know this. You just keep trolling on here like you are saying anything important at all.

benalvino3:
Palestine attacked Israel, took hostages
Israel fought them
You: people who lost love ones will radicalized
Me: Japan lost love ones and decided they don't want to lose more love ones and seek peace

You: Japan fully surrendered, they turned against their leaders.

Me: 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾

Essentially, history started on Oct 7th.

budaatum:
I don't expect you to understand the contradictions in the situation itself.

Even Israel has politicians and people who don't agree with the ceasefire, and would likely do something to destabilise it just as some Palestinians will too.

As a certain dump might say, there are belligerents on both sides.

I am not sorry to say, they are all i.dio.ts. Like I say, you will come to find out that only the anti-israel pundits actually follow the news. Most pro-israel people like the numpties on here just wait to hear from Netanyahu, Trump and other Pro-israel mouthpieces.

Already, the Satans, Smotrich and Ben-Gvir are saying they cannot support any peace deal that involves the release of Palestinian captives.

We that already know these evil people cannot be trusted for a minute, which is why we have been sceptical. But peops like Dayo be sharing gifs saying Israelis are happy. Happy my foot.

I really wish I have the bandwidth to flog every single one of their nonsense talking points.

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benalvino3:
You will say this and not support Israel to wipe out everyone so they don't face that problem?

Your kind of reasoning is what caused this destruction in the first place.

Japanese took two nukes and they did not get radicalised.

This is madness. Absolute madness. Wipe out everyone? Are we still talking about humans here?

benalvino3:
Why are you telling me this? You made an argument I was making, agreeing with me, I told you we agree, then you disagree with me, that we agree to type this drivel?

The West has empowered China because of capitalism, cheap labour. China used the money pumped into their country to kill off manufacturing in the West through flooding their markets with cheap goods, and stealing intellectual properties. That's using capitalism to kill capitalism.

The West makes its own bed; let it sleep in it. China has the right to decide its supply chain policy.

See how much they planned to sell electric cars in the West. The government pays the rest when the car is sold.

Thats why BYD made more than they can chew, the cars are all sitting down in a storage, new cars being sold as used cars because the manufacturers have already taken their checks from the government claiming the cars are sold.

Oya juxtapose this common sense with 100% tariffs confusion you are praising.

raumdeuter:
How many does the UK produce

The UK is not st.oo.pidly slapping China with 100% tariffs.

cococandy:
Black man dies in jail and his family is suing for justice. Before you guys say, “what did he do to get in jail? he must have deserved it.”

The story behind this is that they thought he was drunk driving. However, he had a stroke behind the wheel and crashed. He couldn’t talk to them when they pulled up to him.

SO….they simple assumed that he was drunk or on drugs and threw him in the jail covered in his own urine. Meanwhile the whole time he was having a stroke. My heart goes out to him and his family. What a horrible way to go.

They didn’t think to call someone to medically him on time. Or Call EMS. Nothing. Their first assumption was “black guy. Must be drugs”.

That’s why I really truly despise kuuns. You’re not only contributing to a narrative that harms you (you don’t care about yourself so why should I) but you’re contributing to a narrative that harms every black person. This man could be anyone including your own children. But keep helping racist people spread the ideology that you and everyone who looks like you is inherently up to no good and see where that gets us.

That inherently shared mentality is the most dangerous part of this nonsense. They vote to make life difficult for others.

The most st.oo.pid part of it, is the lack of awareness about how close to their doorsteps this actually is.

benalvino3:
Thanks for saying exactly what I am saying. You just want to argue for the sake of it.

Then you must be confused about your own argument.

The US controls the world's reserve currency and uses it as a weapon to serve its own foreign interest.

China had foresight, focused on engineering, and now produces over 1.5m highly-skilled graduate engineers every single year.. For comparison, the US produces just over 100,000, many of whom are foreign nationals, looking to return back to motherland. This metric alone makes China prime for controlling the world's manufacturing.

American capitalists, attracted to the China's engineering base, abandon manufacturing inside the US in favour of lining up their pockets. But you are mad at China.

You align with America first, China does China first, but you are complaining.

Meanwhile, you are typing all this nonsense from your considerably cheaply-made mobile phone, thanks to China, but you are angry about it at the same because Trump commanded you to be.

Your head don knock.

benalvino3:
China can respond to the United States, but that's not the case, they are targeting everyone.

They fill the world with fake knockoffs, steal intellectual properties, and use cheap temu to close Western stores and productions.

When Trump complains = orange man bad.

It is the same thing I say about Islam.

They never assimilate, they tend not to integrate, and they also openly say they have more babies, and when the time comes, it will be Sharia. When I speak you guys will say I am a bigot.

Last time I went to Birmingham I could not believe what I saw from a city I once loved.

The thing is many folks will choose to virtue signal instead of recognizing reality.

Yet, same Western people don't stop flying in droves to China to set up manufacturing plants, and take advantage of cheap labour costs.

You guys are impossible.

budaatum:
How dare China want to control what they supply!

Anyone should be able to go to China for supplies!

You can tell he didn't read a single line of what China intends to do. He got his news off Trump's post, and it's off to Nairaland.

He's just an uninformed tool.

benalvino3:
This is the problem with you guys.
China is taking an action that affects the whole world and you still talking about Trump's tarriff.

This is why I said they other day that China is using capitalism to kill the west.

Trump speaks out about this and tries to diversify production, you guys on the left shouts orange man bad.

Explain to us what China is doing please.

Anyone who thinks they deserve the Nobel Peace Prize instantly does not deserve it. Peace loving people fight for peace not to be recognised, they just do it.

feedthenation:
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Preducial indictment. Case closed.

raumdeuter:
Do those in Gaza jubilating know how many deals have been reached or they are unaware but somehow you are crying more than those at the warfront

This kind of TDS is not normal again, might need agbo

You lost your mind. Now you want to profit from the suffering of the Palestinian people, when you were the one telling me in 2023 that a boy deserved to be shot in the back by the IDF, because "he might grow up to be a terrorist".

Now you want to talk of Palestinian people celebrating and congratulate your emperor, when we have been the ones criticising this war long before it started.

That is despicable mate.

The Palestinians are victims of political circumstance, and so they will rejoice at the mention of any type of cease fire. On the other hand, this is the 4th deal brokered for cease fire.

You didn't read the deal. You don't know what the contents are. You don't know if it's a temp ceasefire or permanent. You don't care about the Palestinians. All you care about is calling Trump peace President..... and that's exactly what I tackled.

But you are here trying to form like you care for the War.

Sharp guy Rogers.

raumdeuter:
You have been moaning whining. The first thing you posted was hissing like a snake

Exactly. So you can see you did not read it. You saw the hiss, and you lost your mind.

Do you know how many deals have been reached?

budaatum:
I might try running this by my highly valued Igbo friends, that they should be grateful the Nigerian army didn't kill them off, but I fear they'll defriend me, and I really wouldn't like that they'll think I forgot the past.

Imagine telling our Igbo friends they should be grateful the Nigerian army didn't finish them off. Like the kain way pipu dey take reason matter dey shock me.

Extremely worrisome how people need to personalise arguments to realise/rationalise the insanity therein.

raumdeuter:
The real leader of the world has made a ceasefire possible, There are celebrations in Israel and in Gaza.

I wonder what your next agitation will be when Gazans you claimed you cared about and making you sad are outside jubilating

I asked you, what exactly what is that I said? Can you remember?

Please try remember before your mouth started running like opeere.

raumdeuter:
You saw a ceasefire backed by the US, Qatar Saudi UAE. That is welcome by Gaza and Israel but you still find a reason to be negative and complain

Do liberalism suck every joy out of you? The people who experienced the war who are at the epicenter of the war are out there jubilating but you in the comfort of your AC house thousands of mile away still crying

Can't you just join Israelis and Gazans in celebration

Can you remember exactly what it was that I said?

raumdeuter:
You want a continuation of war? You dont want a ceasefire

You sound confused

Argue with purpose. Don't just be profligate with words.

You were applauding Trump for a ceasefire that was only a few hours old at the time, when we know Israel will break the terms very shortly.

Your response was "don't you want ceasefire"? I responded questioning the YOU referred to in your response, But you now tthink I am the confused one.

You llack the ability to stay on topic. Pivoting from one nonsense to another, just to drink the Donald Koolaid

benalvino3:
Go arrest Obama, Biden, Churchill, and all the people who fought in World War 2 against the nazis for killing innocent women and children.
Do you think war is like the one you were playing in your backyard as a kid?

Which war that innocent women and children not die in? Let's start with the ones King David fought to date.

Shut it abeg. They were killing babies, shooting boys in the head, raping women and girls, long before Oct 7th.

Convenient in you to blame it on war.

At least in the World Wars, both sides were actually "warring" ....... What do we call this contraption where one side is armed to the teeth by the US, completely bombarding the other side who are fighting back with home-made weapons? That's War?

You excuse grave immorality - one of seismic proportions - and excuse it under the guise of War, but lecture us in other debates about how this is the most moral army in the world.

Jokers!

raumdeuter:
Now with this historic peace brokered now watch as Democrats start criticizing peace and advocate for more wars

Mcheeeww! President of Peace my foot. Every time he comes to post another dea. Israel breaks terms of the deal, and he lacks the balls to call them to order, because how dare date he defy Miriam Adelson?

The cult boys unfortunately then run to Nairaland to post yet another deal that will be broken yet in time.

You lot have no shame.

ono:
Temper! Temper!!

The below is one of my several responses to buda.

"It's not a sign of cowardice or weakness to acquiesce to superior force or knowledge"

What would you have our forefathers do? You said it yourself up there - they had brute force, better technology, firepower - etc etc. In war, it is the winners who live to write the story of how they won!

Now, these guys spared our forebears lives. They could have done to us what they did to the sioux and other Red Indian tribes in North America. Would you be here today if they had done that? There are some things we should be thankful to God (not them) for. We live to fight another day in a different way.

Great write up you have up there. Thanks!

It is a sign of stupendous levels of cowardice and weakness though to acquiesce to the brutality and immorality of a superior power, because you want to "show respect for said power"

That they spared our forefathers is no benevolence. It was strategy. It's nothing to be thankful for. Absolutely nothing to be grateful for. If you understand how empires work, you'd understand that there was always a long-term goal to serve.

What happened to this misunderstood benevolence when slaves arrived at their destination? What about to the hundreds of thousands that were thrown offboard at sea? What happened to those that refused to work as slaves? What happened to the millions of women who refused to sleep the white man?

Were they just free to choose and decide or did they suffer immeasurable consequences for their defiance?

What happened to the deliberate under-development of the colonised nations?

Nothing happened without the express dictate of a Her Majesty. And every dictate served the interest and hegemony of empire. If it didn't, it never got done.

Don't be lost. They were never benevolent.

RodgersAkpafu:
These are the calibre of people that I should be having conversations with
Smh

The ones who believe that colonisation brought "good" to the colonised

Like how much must one suffer in lack of self-worth to claim that there's good in colonialism? Men who have completely lost identity, and are completely subservient to the white man's world view.

This is how easily mean can be tricked into a cult. This is how black men become MAGA sheep.

Nuccccas don completely lost they da.mn minds.

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