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FOLYKAZE: Plagiarising is a great criminal offense (stealing, fraudining, illegal copying and copyright infringement) and display of dishonesty and insincerity. The bold is from this site http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=13&article=925 why are you lying and stealing around to make a point?

What I wrote which you want to refute was completely lost shot. My position is that in kjv, shakespear appear in psalm 46 counting from first verse 46 words produce shake while counting from the last verse 46 words produce spear. This only appears in Kjv bible while other versions misplace the words or change the words into another thing.

From the bible you gave, nobody mention if it appears there or not but the point is that kjv rearrange it words perfectly for a purpose and full intention. Coming here with cheap straws with a plagiarized work is makes you not trustworthy person.

From the bishop bible.....shake appears at the count of 46 while speare appears at the count of 48.

From the Great bible.....shake appears at the count of 41 while speare appears at the count of 46

From the Kjv.....shake appears at the count of 46 while spear appears at the count of 46.

From other translations, we have quake instead of shake. Now who is dishonest with his claims and who is picking straws?

Wow. Now you accuse me of plagiarism. I think you will find that I have been consistent in citing other people's work in by italicizing it. I even said "here is another one I FOUND". This is distasteful bro.

Just because I didn't call you on it. I saw a post you passed off as your own on another site. The nerve you have.

macof: Conspiracy of KJ on my mind

You know That guy either doesn't know how to translate or He is a crook

"Lucifer" Isaiah 14:12 another debatable matter

So this is what the conversation gas devolved into? Conspiracy. Yes, the KJV has that coincidence but please tell me you guys don't actually believe this. In Coverdale's Bible of 1535, "shake" (word actually used is raged) is 46 from top and "speare" is 47 from bottom. These words were in close proximity to 46 in a score of bibles before KJV.

Rather than just admit that you failed in your attempt to undermine the translation of scripture, you guys are reaching for the air.

Shame.

FOLYKAZE: I opened the two links and this is what I got.

From the bishop bible.....shake appears at the count of 46 while speare appears at the count of 48.

From the Great bible.....shake appears at the count of 41 while speare appears at the count of 46

From the Kjv.....shake appears at the count of 46 while spear appears at the count of 46. This is what I said. We are dealing about placement and not if the word appear in another version. Nobody is querying about mistranslation but the position and placement with the birthday of shakespear. Why is it 46 all through but others misplaced it or change it spelling? That was all I said.

From other translations, we have quake instead of shake. Now who is dishonest with his claims and who is picking straws?

Here's another one I found:

Finally, numbers like these 46s, and coincidences of this kind, are a dime a dozen. A person can pull numerical shenanigans all day long. My wife’s name is Bethany, and at this writing, she is 26 years old. In the New King James Version in the twenty-sixth chapter of Matthew in verse 6, the name Bethany appears. It happens to be the sixth word from the beginning of the verse, which is the exact age my wife would have been for the majority of the year 1982, which was the year the New King James Version hit the market. That must mean that she helped translate that particular section of scripture. Or maybe it just means that numbers can be made to say just about anything.

Do you realize what you sound like? A whole bunch of bibles have "shake" at 46 from top. Your claim would make more sense if no bibles before KJV had 46 from the top. I mean come on man, now we're just debating ifs and maybes.

FOLYKAZE, you know exactly what point you were trying to prove and you were refuted. Why are you grasping at straws?

FOLYKAZE: The instruction from the above is for you to count 46 words from first verse and another 46 words from the end both on chapter 46. Pls when you do that on those bible you quoted, do you get shakespear?

YES!!! You are forcing me to label you as dishonest.

FOLYKAZE: too should be spell as took and still mean the same? You damn ignorant.

Shakespear is not same as shakespeare

Come on man. Just admit that you were wrong. There's no shame in that. We're all wrong about things. It happens.

MEILYN: you only know how to call people fools and liars, you are the folly here. Folykaze smh.

It really is sad. He just won't admit that he was wrong!!!

FOLYKAZE: And you cant quote the bible directly so that we confirm your claim?

Here you go:

Great Bible:
http://thebiblecorner.com/englishbibles/thegreatbible/psalms/46.html

Bishop's Bible
http://thebiblecorner.com/englishbibles/thebishopsbible/psalms/46.html

FOLYKAZE: King James in 1610 commanded his men who were translating the bible into English, to insert the name of his good friend, “Shakespear “, into the 46th Psalms as a 46 birthday gift. William Shakespear was 46 years old in 1610 the year that the bible was completed being translated into English. Get an older King James Version of the bible & count 46 words starting with the first word in Psalms 46 you will come to Shake, and if you count 46 words up from the last word {refuge} In Psalms 46 you will get to Spear. {Note: The updated version of the bible havereplaced the word “shake” with the word “quake” in an attempt to cover up this forgery. This is the same bible some people call holy inspiration.

Wow. With but a statement you have shown that you are out of your depth here. You have lost all credibility. I officially bow out of this conversation. You clearly just latch on to any theory that you think disproves the bible.

For the benefit of those following this thread and yourself, I leave you with this. Please check out Psalm 46 in the Great Bible of 1540 or the Bishop's Bible of 1546 both put together before Shakespeare was born. They too have the words "shake" in verse 3 and "spear" in verse 9. I suppose Shakespeare time traveled back in time to insert in name in those bibles as well.

Wow.

You accuse me of ignoring the text. Perhaps you could reread the first paragraph. Pay attention to the word "conventionally translated". Then read the second paragraph where it says el Shaddai meaning the god of the mountains is a THEORY, one that has been WEAKENED.

FOLYKAZE: Dating was based on bible.




I bet you read the bold. And who translated shaddai to mean mighty? Everyone know El mean god....pls provide the etymology of Shaddai. And from what we got from the bold, it mean mountains.

macof: As I have said before u need Orunmila to guide u into knowledge and understanding. Because u lack both of those

bring up more verse. I have already dealt with this one, Israel's God is weak outside mountain areas

Nice diversion there. I won't press you further. The words have spoken for themselves.

Let me first say that my heart goes out to the people of the Philippines and I think events like this sobers every one.

These are not easy topics that we are discussing. The problem of evil and the omniscience of God are philosophical notions that have been debated since the days of the Greek philosophers.

Here are my two cents. God is omniscient. Can this be fully explained, NO since our minds can only grasp the finite. As creator, God is outside the space-time construct, therefore it is most difficult to explain omniscience. The best way I think about it is to say that God knows the outcome of every decision we make though we are free moral agents. God knows the heart of man so he knows even whether you will change your mind. It is a very complex topic but the bible does provide a case we can look at: the story of Judas Iscariot. Christ had already spoken way ahead of time that one of his disciples would betray him and that even at the last supper he clearly identified that it was Judas. Yet we know that Judas still had to make the choice. Jesus didn't force him to act. I think this shows that the concept of past, present, and future are for us and not God.

If God is all powerful, why does he allow evil like natural disasters to happen? The world as it is now is a fallen world as a result of sin. It evidences sins destructive nature. It was the world that man could only live in when he fell. The world that we live in is an ever-present reminder of that. Paul speaks to this effect when he says

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. (Romans 8:18-22 NKJV)

But this is why the words contained in the book of revelations are vitally important. God will create a new world where there will be no more natural disasters, a world without pain and suffering, where God will personally wipe away the tears from every eye.

macof: you read not to understand

Joshua 11:2-3 states that Israel's enemies lived both on mountains and around mountains.

Joshua 17: 16 states that the children of Joseph were not confident because the hills were not enough

Joshua 2:9 states that Joshua was buried in the mount of Ephraim close to the hill of gaash. Moses also disappeared/died on a mountain.

And it came to pass, when Jabin king of Hazor heard these things, that he sent to Jobab king of Madon, to the king of Shimron, to the king of Achshaph, and to the kings who were from the north, in the mountains, in the plain south of Chinneroth, in the lowland, and in the heights of Dor on the west, to the Canaanites in the east and in the west, the Amorite, the Hittite, the Perizzite, the Jebusite in the mountains, and the Hivite below Hermon in the land of Mizpah. So they went out, they and all their armies with them, as many people as the sand that is on the seashore in multitude, with very many horses and chariots. And when all these kings had met together, they came and camped together at the waters of Merom to fight against Israel. But the Lord said to Joshua, “Do not be afraid because of them, for tomorrow about this time I will deliver all of them slain before Israel. You shall hamstring their horses and burn their chariots with fire.” So Joshua and all the people of war with him came against them suddenly by the waters of Merom, and they attacked them. Thus Joshua took all this land: the mountain country, all the South, all the land of Goshen, the lowland, and the Jordan plain—the mountains of Israel and its lowlands, from Mount Halak and the ascent to Seir, even as far as Baal Gad in the Valley of Lebanon below Mount Hermon. He captured all their kings, and struck them down and killed them. (Joshua 11:1-7, 16, 17 NKJV).

They took the mountains, lowlands, plains, valleys, etc.

But the children of Joseph said, “The mountain country is not enough for us; and all the Canaanites who dwell in the land of the valley have chariots of iron, both those who are of Beth Shean and its towns and those who are of the Valley of Jezreel.” And Joshua spoke to the house of Joseph—to Ephraim and Manasseh—saying, “You are a great people and have great power; you shall not have only one lot, but the mountain country shall be yours. Although it is wooded, you shall cut it down, and its farthest extent shall be yours; for you shall drive out the Canaanites, though they have iron chariots and are strong.” (Joshua 17:16-18 NKJV)

They were not confident because of the chariots of iron. Your statement is false.

You go on to cite Judges 2:9. I don't know what point you are making by pointing out where Joshua was buried.

I cited Judges 2:1-4.
Then the Angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said: “I led you up from Egypt and brought you to the land of which I swore to your fathers; and I said, ‘I will never break My covenant with you. And you shall make no covenant with the inhabitants of this land; you shall tear down their altars.’ But you have not obeyed My voice. Why have you done this? Therefore I also said, ‘I will not drive them out before you; but they shall be thorns in your side, and their gods shall be a snare to you.’ ” So it was, when the Angel of the Lord spoke these words to all the children of Israel, that the people lifted up their voices and wept. (Judges 2:1-4 NKJV)

This is as clear as it can get.

Hahahaha. You're too much friend.

Everything you mentioned: chronology, historicity, numbers and logistics, we can assess their accuracy based on archaeological findings. That is how we know what we know of the ancient world: archaeology.

In any case, here is what you asked for. Straight from Wikipedia I should add:

El Shaddai (Hebrew: אל שדי‎, IPA: [el ʃadːaj]) is one of the Judaic names of God, with its etymology coming from the influence of the Ugaritic religion upon modern Judaism. Shaddai was one of the many Gods in Canaanite religion. El Shaddai is conventionally translated as God Almighty. While the translation of El as "god" in Ugarit/Canaanite language is straightforward, the literal meaning of Shaddai is the subject of debate.

Another theory is that Shaddai is a derivation of a Semitic stem that appears in the Akkadian shadû ("mountain" and shaddā`û or shaddû`a ("mountain-dweller", one of the names of Amurru. This theory was popularized by W. F. Albright[citation needed] but was somewhat weakened when it was noticed[by whom?] that the doubling of the medial d is first documented only in the Neo-Assyrian period. However, the doubling in Hebrew might possibly be secondary. According to this theory, God is seen as inhabiting a mythical holy mountain, a concept not unknown in ancient West Asian mythology (see El), and also evident in the Syriac Christian writings of Ephrem the Syrian, who places Eden on an inaccessible mountaintop.

The term may mean "God of the mountains," referring to the Mesopotamian divine mountain.[3] The term was one of the patriarchal names for the tribal god of the Mesopotamians.[3] In Exodus 6:3, El Shaddai is identified explicitly with the God of Abraham and with YHWH.[3] The term appears chiefly in the Torah. This could also refer to the Israelite camp's stay at Mount Sinai where God gave Moses the Ten Commandments.

I hope this should suffice.

FOLYKAZE: Your ignorance really is hell. You are far from redemption. Gaddem.

Is it only Archaeology evidence you see there? What about Chronology, Numbers and logistics, Historicity, dating and many others included there? Why cant you just take your time, read through the post and the attached link, ignite your brain, reason and make conclusion?

Pls bring out your evidence that El-shaddai mean Almighty God. All this cheap talk and rant is baseless.

Excellent use of Wikipedia. But what you have put forward offers no evidence at all. What you have put forward is that because archaeology hasn't discovered anything that means that it doesn't exist. Essentially, you have said that the absence of evidence is evidence of absence. You know, many took that same position about the universe having a beginning, the existence of Pontus Pilate, the existence of King David, etc. Well, eventually the truth came out.

Please just google El Shaddai and see that it also holds the translation "God Almighty." As I clearly pointed out, you need to read the whole thing in context. As Joshua proclaimed God already told them to take the land despite their concern of iron chariots. As the other scripture I provided, the Israelites became chicken. They didn't want to face the remaining Canaanite tribes. Then as the last scripture I provided, God declares that he will not drive out the Canaanites because of their unbelief. A common theme in the bible.

You know what is also interesting is that archaeologists are humans like you and I and they have bias. Many set out on their expeditions to ensure that they undermine scripture. It matters not though because the truth will prevail. Just like when evidence started pouring in the 60s that the universe had a beginning. The many scientists in the American and British science societies were furious because they knew it would further lend credence to the Bible. Imagine that.

FOLYKAZE: Adding to the Red sea fable...



Your argument on Egypt and Red sea is locked as it have no historical base.

And where is the fact that the world was flooded? No evidence....the whole noah story is an allegory for theological purposes.

FOLYKAZE: Quit dishonesty. Can you fly a ship which is purposed for moving water?

Yahweh is the God of hills and El-shaddai means God of the mountains (rock could also symbolize strength and destruction)

Your God was defeated in judge 1:19 by mere human when they fought on the plain/valley because he is powerless there but do greatly on mountains and hills.

Pls go and study your bible very well instead of embarrassing yourself with this ignorance you displaying around. Here is a glaring points about Yahweh or El-shaddai as God of the hills https://www.nairaland.com/1508769/christians-god-idol-hills

The old Judges 1:19. I guess this was meant to catch me unawares as though I had not read the bible. This is a typical example of cherry-picking scripture. Perhaps you could read Joshua 11:1-9 and Joshua 17:14-19 and Judges 2:1-4. It is clear that they would have defeated the Canaanites as they had done earlier but they were afraid and decided not take them on. As a result of their unbelief, the Canaanite tribes remained in the land.

I sincerely hope you aren't consciously trying to distort scripture. Were Israel on the hill when the Red Sea was parted? Or when Egypt was afflicted with multiple plagues? How about when the entire earth was flooded?

I will stick to facts while you and Macof are more than welcome to your name-calling. I guess that might convince someone.

macof: lol I didnt agree anything

The gods would always intervene when u seek them.

lemme use this as an example

Israel and Ekiti(ekiti was a nation back then) are to fight a war
Israel's god is El shaddai(god of mountains and fruitfulness). Ekiti's god is Orunmila(god of wisdom, knowledge and divination)

if Israel stays in an area full of mountains Ekiti is toast but let them leave their territory and fight in plain lands or forest Then Ekiti would gain victory through their intelligent god

So pagan gods have weaknesses in certain areas. Why worship them?

Yes, El-Shaddai is one of the names of the God of the bible but there are tons of other names as well. Such as Melech Haolam: king of the universe. Also El-Shaddai means God Almighty.

macof: Everybody stands corrected. No one knows ALL

but u know so little

Now that you admit that there are strength comparisons, can you speak to what happens when two cultures go to war against each other? Is the victor the person with the strongest god?

macof: Titans were Given birth to by The God Uranus And Gaia

Uranus is believed to be the supreme God in Greek paganism. He however is lost in the sky and has low consciousness, that is why Zeus(Grandson of Uranus) was regarded as king of the gods

Zeus was able to defeat Cronus with the help of the Cyclops and also Gaia(The force of mother nature, comprises all nature forces)

Still the point remains that you and FOLYKAZE stand corrected that there are strength comparisons in pagan traditions. Otherwise, how did Cronos defeat Uranus and how did Zeus defeat Cronos?

macof: We have no titans in our spirituality

The Titans/Trolls and sky giants are only believed in Britannia, Scandinavia, Greek and neighboring areas

Such Creatures never appeared in West Africa

According to Greek tradition, the titans gave birth to the gods. In fact in those other traditions, those deities were material beings, they had origins. And since you equated Yoruba deity with those deities, then Yoruba deities were also created beings yes?

Another point, if you say that there is no strength comparisons within pagan traditions, how was Zeus able to defeat Cronos his father who was a Titan?

FOLYKAZE: @nativeboy. Are you now ignoring black and jew now? For how long should we wait for you standing up

I don't understand your comment. Nevertheless it is common knowledge that everyone migrated out of Africa.

FOLYKAZE: Macof taking charge.

Sorry I meant the Yoruba tradition equivalent of titans?

FOLYKAZE: Odin is the god of war, battle, hunt, victory, death and wisdom. What comes to your mind should be Ogun.

And the equivalent of the Titans in Greek tradition would be?

FOLYKAZE: Sango of Yoruba is Amahodia of Igbo and Thor of greek. Pagan is universal. Nothing like stronger or strongest

So each god in the Yoruba pantheon has an equivalent in that of other cultures?

Who is Odin's counterpart in Yoruba tradition?

macof: We are on the internet and the highest I can do for u is to post links, which you can get urself.

Most of wat I know I beyond Internet links and such links can't be enough to convince u because u have been sucked in the judeo-Christian thing for long.

I am not saying christianity is evil, like u people claim all other religions are.

I am not saying Christianity isn't good for the soul, but u people claim only Christianity can save a soul.

If you need evidence search the internet, it would be a good start, then speak with high placed Rabbi in the Jewish Temple in Israel. Go around the middle east learning from intelligent folks who knows about history and spirituality.

However if u still need be to post links I would.


The most high God is not bias and is rational and just in creation. You cannot assume One God is stronger than the other, they all have their duties and elements to control

There is a lot of things written on the Internet that aren't true. One should be very critical of Internet sources.

The world is now that I don't have to travel the Middle East for esoteric knowledge since people are now penning things down. Please point me to some credible literature addressing your points.

FOLYKAZE: There is nothing like strongest among Orisa. Obatala lead the creation team and he is referred to as omnipresent, Orunmila is the Omniscient while Oduduwa is the Omnipotent. Oduduwa take charges after Obatala couldn't continue his task while Ogun lead when they were about the enter earth. Eshu save all the Ase of all Orisa so they take permission from him before commencing on a task. And Ogun symbolize strength....orunmila use him because orunmila do not have bone. They all work together.....there is nothing like stronger or strongest anywhere.

You misunderstood me. I'm asking for strength comparisons between the tribal gods and even between national gods? As an example, who's stronger between the gods if the Igbo pantheon vs the gods of the Yoruba pantheon? Or, who's stronger between the Yoruba pantheon of gods and say the Maasai pantheon of gods?

FOLYKAZE: Black can be many peoples look at fijians and people from vanuatu, they are black and not from africa. Indians the asian kind (India) can be black as well and they aint African. Stop spreading lies as truth.

Even the so called Jew hate blacks than anything. Read about it here http://thebilzerianreport.com/why-do-so-many-jews-hate-black-people/. Your cheap lies cant grow here.

Everyone originated from Africa.

Who doesn't hate blacks? What's your point?

I think we are digressing from the main topic.

macof: I dont beg u to believe, I only Beg u to make ur own research. read about Semitism, canaanite religion and history of Judaism.

Judaism was crated by Moses for Israel to worship the god of their ancestors- El shaddai(god of mountains and frutfulness) There is a small thread on NL about this, but am sure u would discard it because u are yet to be enlightened.

U should know that Israel is Semitic and Abraham lived among cannanites there by recognizing their Gods, and El shaddai favored him. El shaddai became the God of Israel through Jacob.

Assyrians are Abrahams people, As they are also Arphaxadians and the religion of Assyria is so similar to Arabs, who are also descendants of Abraham.

Abraham worshipped Naana- A god in Assyrian spirituality. Naana is the equivalent of Allah in Arabian Spirituality(Before ISLAM)
when Abraham migrated to Cannaaland, He adopted Canaanite spirituality and his Patrone was El shaddai

many years later Moses creates a Religion were El shaddai, whom he called Yahweh is The Only God Of Israel and Their Lands(which they had conquered from the canaanites)

However Israel still recognized these other Gods and went back on their covenants a few times.

By the Time of the 2nd Temple after Israel's return from Babylon, The high priests had already forgotten all about their Spirituality and thought El shaddai was the only God of the universe

Again, you're free to say what you want but without scholarly evidence, you cannot hope to convince anyone.

Since I don't think you'll produce any such evidence to back up your claims, I'll go another route. Let's assume that as you have said we should return to our own gods and abandon the Judeo-Christian God, then I'd like to know, whose god is stronger?

macof: Going by this we should dismiss this your previous post






I always laugh when Abrahamics like u think u know God, or Know anything about His firstborns

1. The God of Israel is Yahweh/El shaddai- God of Mountains
2. HE is not the Supreme God. he has a father "El Eyon" who is the Most High God of major Semitic-Cannaanite Spiritualities.
3. Other Gods are Siblings of Yahweh in Spritual cosmology and Universal Theology of The Canaanites
4. Idols are not Gods. Gods are not Idols
5. Men create Idols But The Most High Creates Gods

these points would probabl;y not make sense to u but its the absolute truth. It is left for u to believe or not

However Do not spread foolishness on this thread and NL at large

Because you say something is the absolute truth doesn't make it so. You have made claims but have not substantiated them. You would have to reconcile the monotheism of Judaism with the polytheism of the Canaanite religions. You would have to reconcile the concept of the Judeo-Christian God with that of any other religious tradition actually.

You can't dismiss my previous post since I presented the argument from God's perspective. Now from the Israelites perspective, they might may have been fully convinced that everything was fine and that they were progressing, but that's not how God saw it. This is clearly not the case with Nigeria.

macof: so if this is ur point, lemme not argue with u for NOW
just answer this:

if Israel forsakes the God of their ancestors- Yahweh, wat would become of them?
Severe times in the past Israel has served other foreign Gods......No No not even foreign Gods, Native Gods that their neighbours worshipped, yet they lived well until Yahweh dispatches some prophets to tell them of the wrongs of worshipping another God over the God of ur convenant? why did Israel still progress under these other Gods?

Define progress. But let's say for the sake of argument that you are referring to affluence, wealth, technology, etc. Again, God has given man the gift of a mind therefore he can build a functioning society and can continue to advance it. God doesn't warn Israel concerning idolatry because it would halt progress, idolatry would lead first to spiritual poverty and then it would lead to societal collapse. God warns Israel about idolatry because the other gods were no gods at all. They are the creation of men. The work of men's hands.

FOLYKAZE: So being black mean you African? Are there no black chinese? Smh

Where did black people come from? In fact, where does everyone come from? Is Africa not home to civilization?

macof: Oodua people are an heritage a blessed people.

Who lost their place when they accepted the gods of another man over the gods of their ancestors

And the ones who refuse to repent shall face the wrath of the gods, because it is sin
To self inflict mental slavery,l
To insult ones ancestors
To be ungrateful
To be foolish

Olodumare shall ripe ur soul into different parts and send u to nourish disgusting planets for not gaining enlightenment and seeking truth

You are making a false assertion that the reason for Nigeria and Africa's plight is their forsaking of their gods. If it were so, those tribes that still cling to the traditional way should be far better off than the rest which is clearly not the case. The black man's plight is foremost caused by his lack of identity; he lacks the knowledge of who he is because he doesn't know where he came from. He doesn't know his history.

That being said, it should not be taken to imply that he must worship the gods of his ancestors if he is to reconnect with his heritage. If that were the case, we would all have to find the gods our respective tribes worship them. Even then, what will it do?

You have tried to argue that the Judeo-Christian God is not the God of all, but that argument cannot succeed. There is so much scripture speaking about the gospel going to the Gentiles and Africans have been a part of the early church since even before Christ died.

A couple of examples: The man who helped carry Jesus' cross was African. The eunuch that Philip the evangelist (sent by the Holy Spirit) witnessed to was African. Moses married a black woman. Joseph's wife and his children were most likely black. The Judeo-Christian God is the God of all.

Again, primarily in the Old Testament, he dealt solely with the children of Israel and during these times of ignorance, it was fine for everyone to pursue their own gods as it suited their understanding. But now that Christ has come, the light has come to the world. The one true God has been revealed to man.

I sincerely hope you will not try to contort these scriptures. They are clear as day.

Ultimately, it is not in accepting the Judeo-Christian God that Africa's problems will be solved. It will begin to be solved when we begin to use the talents God has given us.