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Agriculture / Re: My Noiler Farm Experience (hybrid Of Broiler + Cockerel) by NativeChicken: 7:57pm On Jan 25, 2022 |
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Agriculture / Re: My Sasso Chicken Farming From Day Old by NativeChicken: 10:50am On Jan 20, 2022 |
Hello Everyone and kudos to the originator of this thread. I like the fact that we are beginning to see a diversity in the birds we have access to in Naija Viz Sasso, Noilers and Kuroilers. I hope we soon start seeing vintage breeds like RIR, Plymouth Rocks, Delaware, Brahma etc 1 Like |
Agriculture / Re: My Sasso Chicken Farming From Day Old by NativeChicken: 2:21pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
Pls where can I get this Sasso- breed? Would love to get DOC and some mature Roosters |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 11:37am On Dec 01, 2020 |
Symbiotic1: 1. Power source as one cannot depend on our power supply. so we need something that is Fuel/Diesel or Kero powered, Solar powered or Battery powered. 2. Automatic egg turning. Turning d eggs in the incubator 2 ro 3 times a day is stressfull. We need something dt will auto rurn d eggs. 3. We also need it ro b cost effective 1 Like |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 1:38pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
azikiweironsi:Am in Abuja and its difficult getting a pure bred fulani chicken. I have four males and they are not pure lines. I just dey manage them until i can get pure ones. Will chat u now |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 1:35pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
kaycino:Never tried any. I dont lke Cockerels, especially d white ones. They take too long and their weight gain is too poor. As for Noiler Male x Noiler Female, i do not know. I simply dont think its a good way to go , considering they are from same parent stock 1 Like |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 7:33pm On Nov 11, 2020 |
I believe with the prevailing challenges with DOC price and feed price hike, we can go ahead and commerciallize these enterprise. Some people have argued that Noiler or Kuroiler farming is not profitable. Am begining to prove them wrong as my males get to 2kg in 8weeks and the female produce 4-6 eggs per week with food scraps and supplemented with locally formulated feed. Here are some of my breeding stock 2 Likes
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Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 10:15am On Nov 11, 2020 |
GafarOlatunji: I really do not know abt Broiler x Fulani cross . I tried it without any success. The broiler male was too heavy to mate. Then on the other hand , i tried a female broiler, but their egg production was very poor. I dont know which one compares better; A purr Noiler or a cross. But i know dt a cross of Fulani male to Noiler female is better than Noiler male to Fulani female. I read a journal of an experiment done in University of Ilorin some years back. As per feeding, i feed starter for 6-8 weeks and then my own formula. |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 9:49am On Nov 10, 2020 |
kaycino:They are 13weeks now on the pix. and all weighing over 2.3kg. Am looking to cross them with some Isa brown layers. Let me post some other pix of younger ones between 3days old to 5weeks mostly 1 Like
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Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 9:04am On Nov 09, 2020 |
Good morning guys. Hope we are all doing great and staying safe? Just a small update; My cross of Fulani Male and Noiler females seem to b doing great? I got chicks with males weighing between 1.2kg - 1.5kg in 8weeks!! Fed them starter for those 8weeks. They are currently on grower.
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Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 5:08pm On Oct 21, 2020 |
Noilers can free range even better than our local chickens o. As to d best cross, i prefer Fulani Cock to cross my Noiler hens. I got offspring males dt hit 1 2- 1.5 kg in 8weeks |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 6:35pm On Aug 05, 2020 |
sodeeqsulaimon88: No you cannot feed chickens only on maggot. Maggot is predominantly protein with cp value of 30-65% depending on the substrate it was grown or fed on. You will still need a carbohydrate source, vitamins and minerals to balance maggot as feed. Also, mixing maggot with any commercial feed would most likely result in protein waste unless u are feeding an animal that requires a higer protein feed eg u can add maggot to starter to feed turkey poults aince they require around 34- 28% protein diet. However, with the right formula, maggot is a great way to reduce our poultry and livestock feed cost by up to 40% or more. The best maggot larvae to use is the Black Soldier Fly (BSF) Larvae. Our common housefly larvae can b used also, but u have to be careful both 4 ur own sake and ur livestock as housefly can spread harmful diseases. However, the use of various techniques such as fermentation, drying etc can be used to make it safer. Pls also go online and read up on it both on google and youtube 3 Likes |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 2:51pm On Jul 26, 2020 |
Farouq94: I think for commercial purpose, Karl Hammer has shown that the Compost feed system is the best and most viable option to go with feeding our chickens. Scaling up a cricket farm, worm farm or bsf larvae system sont b an easy feat. A Compost system using the rice hull and other organic inputs should b easier. The good thing is that compost will attract bsf, housefly, worms, crickets and other biota. |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 12:48pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
QTCL: No, i dont vaccinate them in the regular sense. i use organic meducation. So, i use Itagiri ( Christmas Melon), Apple Cider Vinegar and Ginger & Garlic extracts. I also give them Organic multivitamin and calcium |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 7:02pm On Jul 18, 2020 |
mojid22000: The Fulani is the Cock I once heard about a comparative research that examined the performance of chicks from various crosses involving our local breeds and some foreign breeds. The Fulani Male x Foreign female cross did very well. These are my 1st chicks from the cross and so far, am impressed 1 Like |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 2:47pm On Jul 18, 2020 |
My Fulani x Noiler cross @ 2weeks old. Just seperated them from the mother hen this morning. 3 Likes
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Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 12:25pm On Jul 17, 2020 |
Good day All. Its given we all agree that our local chicken breed can be commercialized for good profit. Its also given that we can improve their meat & egg production capacity by crossing them with other breeds like Noiler, Layer, Fulani etc for improved efficiency. What with now need to discuss , i believe are 3 major factors that will enhance productivity and profit :- 1. How do we handle Health - Vaccination & Antibiotic treatment?? 2. What are the standard management processes we need to employ? 3. How do we cut down feed cost without inhibiting production?? These are some salient issues we need to address for our local chicken business to thrive 1 Like |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 12:24am On Jul 15, 2020 |
Farouq94: Thats impressive. Is it automated? coz turning d eggs manually can b a drag. And whats d price range? 1 Like |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 11:59pm On Jul 14, 2020 |
Yea. i guess so. 30-40% max. Its obvious that commercualization using d local breeds for incubation is only an interim option until one can afford an incubator. The best option would be an off-grid incubator which will either be battery, solar or kero/diesel powered since we cannot trust our electricity supply. I wonder where one can get such incubator and what d price will be? |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 7:59pm On Jul 14, 2020 |
Farouq94: Not really coz its a no contest. I get an average of 4-5 eggs from d noilers weekly ie like 80 - 100 eggs. But, i have never got 1 crate from d local hens in a week. |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 11:52am On Jul 14, 2020 |
QTCL: For now i have about 20 Noilers and 21 local hens. Am looking to scale up asap. I do synchronize my broody hens but its still subject to availability of broody hen. Right now i have 7 sitting on eggs. I dint think we can force them to go broody, but i suspect they have this jealous streak dt also extends to the Noilers, its like they go broody when they see others going broody�� |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 9:04pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
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Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 2:37pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
Farouq94: Yes o.. I have 20 chicks for now , with another 70eggs being incubated. Will post a pix. I actually think it will be a viable project if one can commercialize this poultry system, especially if we can minimize feed cost. With 10 Cocks and 50 Hens, one can get at least 200 fertile eggs weekly. That is at least 800 fertile eggs monthly!!
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Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 11:29pm On Jul 12, 2020 |
Farouq94: Unfortunately i do not. Getting them in Abuja is a prob. I tried once, but couldnt get a supplier. @SodeeqSulaiman.. Every bird can b reared in a cage system as long as u give it adequate feed & management. As per your fertile eggs, u can either take it to a commercial hatchery to hatch at a price or u employ the services of ur local hen. Just replace her eggs with ur fertile eggs. Every offspring inherits its genes from six(6) possible donors. The father, the mother and the four grand parents. Ur Noiler × Isa brown cross offspring will do same. There will be variation in the traits each offspring will inherit. But, most times u will get an improvement. 1 Like |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 4:19pm On Jul 12, 2020 |
Farouq94: Noilers are definitely superior, but the FUNAAB Alpha is way superior to our local breeds. They didnt say, but i suspect that the Fulani Ecotype was used in developing the FUNAAB |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 1:39pm On Jul 12, 2020 |
[quote author=TAYO124 post=91627911][/quote] I wouldnt say its impossible. But u need to understand that the process of genetic improvement thru crosses takes many years. Can even b up to 20years depending on what qlty of animals and the traits u want to either remove or improve. I know a Professor at FUUNAB has developed chicken strains for the commercial market. Maybe u have heard of the FUNAAB Alpha? |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 4:01pm On Jul 11, 2020 |
Farouq94: This is an interesting concept which if well adapted can make one plenty of money from poultry farming. Though am still adapting mine, but am begining to see a very wonderful end to it. 1. I have so far created to wire fenced pens as extensions to my poultry house. This is to rotate my birds on pasture. 2. I plant on one while the chickens have access to the other until i harvest my crops (maize, beans, g/nut, potato,green, okra). 3. After harvesting, i open up that range to the chickens and then plant on the one the chickens had access to. This ensures i have croos all year without using fertilizer, reduce disease risk, and the chickens get a lot of food by scratching/scavenging there. The fence protects them from predators and thieves. 4. The set-up also includes 4 compost piles in each range/yard. I get a lot of compost which sells for 1k a bag here in Abuja. 5. I intend getting a vehicle for collecting restaurant waste, fruits & vegerable waste from markets which i dump in the compost pile( Dem dey chop d things wella) 6. Feed cost will become nearly zero by the time am done with my set-up 2 Likes |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 3:36pm On Jul 11, 2020 |
sodeeqsulaimon88: Pap is Ogi in Yoruba. Rice Bran is the chaff u get after milling local rice. You can get some of these chaff from those who mill/grind maize in the market with those big noisy engines. Sometimes they mill/grind elubor and amala powder. The chaff is also called bran. Any Cock you want to breed with should be at least 1year old. At that age they are experienced and their fertility is higher. 1 Like |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 3:23pm On Jul 11, 2020 |
Put a male and a maximum of 10 females in a pen. The male will cross the females. NOTE- 1male to 10 females is for light breeds like our local chickens. For heavy breeds like Broilers, Brahmas and Cochin, 1male to 5 females should be ok. |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 10:10am On Jul 06, 2020 |
As per feed cost, its actually a big challenge so i will advise you get us a list of all agro waste materials in ur area & their prices. Am sure i can assist if u get me this list. Look out for things like Cassava peel, pap chaff, rice bran, arbattoir waste(blood, meat, fish waste), fruit & vegetable waste etc. I semi- free range my birds too to cut feed cost. You can also grow Azolla & Duckweed and snails. You can plant a food forest, u can compost etc. Furthermore, i believe Poultry is a game of numbers. The more u can keep, the better d profit. Let me post a pix of my semi- free range pen. 1 Like 1 Share |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 11:27pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
I feed mine a mixture of grower and maize starch residue ( pap chaff). I also add maggots which i grow on the pap chaff. I ensil everything for 1 week to kill off any pathogens b4 feeding the chickens with it. This drives down my feed cost by up to 50%. Sometimes i use brewers residue from Burukutu sellers to replace the pap chaff. How long have u done ur crosses with Noiler males? And how long b4 they get to table size? 1 Like |
Agriculture / Re: My Pet Project: Is It Economically Feasible To Rear Local Chickens Commercially? by NativeChicken: 5:46pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Nice thread!! Its nice to know i have people of like minds. I recently changed my farm business model due to the high price of day old chicks, feed cost, vaccine/antibiotic failure and high death rate. What i do now is a cross of Fulani Male x Noiler female. I use my local hens to incubate and hatch eggs. I just got 20 chicks this week and the average chick weighed b/w 35g - 42g. Which in my opinion is very ok. Its a very fulfilling experience so far. I have 6 hens incibating 70 eggs at the moment. I noticed that the Noiler hens are taking a cue from d local and going broody... 4 Likes
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