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citizenY:
No, yours.

And u know my middle name because?

citizenY:
Insolence.

Is that your middle name?

ephi123:
You were not too hard. You said it as it is. No apologies needed.
It's one thing for a person to express a view because that is what they sincerely feel, it's a different ball game entirely to be paid to launder a person or party's image. Such people do not deserve any apologies.

Thanks sis for getting my back.

citizenY:
I commented on the qualities ascribed to Jonathan .

What is your point?

Why don't you just let it pass.

Read my post slowly, maybe-just maybe your Brain will sync properly and you'll understand my point. Why comment on what you don't understand?

citizenY:
I am not the issue here,, Jonathan is the issue.

Read the thread again, he wasn't the issue

citizenY:
IYDGAF about him and he has failed.. Then all those attributes you listed amount to nothing.

And you amount to?

saintandsinnerz:
Oboy you wicked o! What did hungerBad do to you? See finishing

I'm sorry if I was too hard on him, but we need to respect our elders (that's non negotiable) even if we're paid to fight them.

The man failed but he got 5years there, most of us may never get a 'second' there, our entire generation may never near there. The probability is at least 1/170M which is near impossibility. So we need respect our leaders even if they're retarded. They got elected by over 10M people and are known by over 500M people across the world

maclatunji:
North Korea has little almost non-existent social contacts with Nigerians. Your Yahoo Boys are as useless as a basket is for fetching water as a tool of retaliation against North Korea.

Stop arguing with someone that has no clue.. Go and argue with ur mate juur and not with a kid. How can yahoo boys whose only tool is social engineering and deceit fight hackers or a country that control social media?

Even our hackers and experts are useless in this matter. Our experts in the field only do defensive. the tools, the devices etc are only defensive. Those on the offensive in Nigeria are rare. Our security generally is flawed, even physical security-say less IT. Our government don't even believe IT requires security. What's the law against hacking? Not sure any exist except when financial advantage is involved or something.

phreakabit:
The emboldened gives you away as one of the aforementioned zombie intellectual who call themselves experts. . .
If you think all experts are White or greyhat then you are mentally handicapped. . . eternally!
Go do your research then comeback and talk to me when you are more knowledgeable.
vulnerabilities and exploits are found everyday! Even on recently patched machines.
Security is an illusion and that's why experts should always be on the edge and never trust the last patch,security configuration or update.

And now school is in session noob:

APT or Advanced persistent threat according to Wiki:
WIKI: An advanced persistent threat is a set of stealthy and continuous computer hacking processes, often orchestrated by a person or persons targeting a specific entity. An APT usually targets either private organizations, states or both for business or political motives.

If you think these were used in attacks of this magnitude you are a clown!
This is for Scriptkids using things like .chm,.xls and other exploits I won't, mention to attack vulnerable targets, who haven't gotten the latest security patch, even in cases where security patches have been implemented The human element can still be considered a vulnerability.
A true professional would look for an "unseen" vulnerability to exploit in his target.
"Experts" like you wouldn't have any idea about what independent pen-testers do, they look for vulnerabilities on websites that can easily be exploited to gain access to the back end, to collect a bounty from the affected company in return for showing the vulnerability to them.
A simple example would be XSS injection or SQL injection. Just some months ago I read a post online where someone bragged about coding from scratch something that could bypass UAC exploiting a vulnerability in windows, and you are here talking about BS.

APTs are "so recent" they are as recent as 2005 LMAO when they where first mentioned!!! LWKMD!
Meaning they might have been in operation underground (in the wild) for a lot longer.

NB: Lazarus does not exist. . . Quit deceiving yourself and believing everything you read.

Dude, you could have just kept quiet and look Intelligent and not type the above to remove all doubt.

The hacks were on SWIFT network, you think its a website? You think you do cross site scripting or run SQL injections on it? By virtue of WAF, some interceptors and 'caching', most of these so-called vulnerabilities are concealed.

If you're tech inclined, drop the insults and let's argue tech, be matured to discuss what you know, drop Wikipedia and googling. And drop the childish insults except you're a kid.

Cyrptolockers that you try to explain uses different mechanisms (malwares, zero day attacks, phishing, etc) to get access to an environment then encrypt the target asset -DB, host, client, sercee etc before demanding for ransom. 'XSS injection'? You inject cross site scripting? Bro google properly. .xls? Lol!

Independent pen testers must be ethical, they can't just go scanning while lookin for vulnerabilities, if they scan your infrastructure, you can jail them, it's theft, that makes them criminals not experts. Penetration testing are controlled, not some random guy somewhere scanning your infrastructure, if you have the resources and pursue him legally, you'll jail him.


One important factor in hacking is 'gaining access into', whether by virtue of vulnerabilities, social engineering, unchanged default credentials or any other way, so escalated privileges, payloads and co are secondary. The last important thing is stealth and cleaning up ur tracks.. There are lots of stuffs in between.

Again, check and see, all recent known hacks were not by virtue of computer vulnerabilities, APTs were used, sending malwares for zero day attacks, social engineering to gain credentials etc.

I do not claim to be a professional or an expert and I'm still open to learning from you, if you want to lecture me, come up with superior knowledge and arguments not some retarded googling and wikis. You only end up confusing yourself. This is a tech talk, come up with superior knowledge not using insult as a bargaining chip.

NB: try and read your explanation on APT and understand it; Equally u need to know what a script Kid, white hart, black and grey hart are. 'Lazarus' is a code name, but if you feel it dont exist because the chair you sit told you so, fine! Dude, there are lots of newer methods in APT. You seem to still be in the 90s.

cktheluckyman:
The supreme court will put an end to this madness when it delivers judgement next month. If recent judgements from the judiciary is anything to go by then there is surely light at the end of the tunnel. Well Sheriff good riddance to bad rubbish

The law is subject to ridiculous interpretations though. I wish they kick him out so peace can reign. I notice the only supporters Sheriff has are APC supporters.. All the paid ApC trolls support him. They believe the only way to win is to make others fail! Unfortunately, that's unhealthy but so is the APC.. Nevertheless, I wish PDP dies d APC too.. Those guys collectively mess the country up

HungerBAD:
Interesting.

First,it was Nigerians that put Jonathan in his place(losers corner)

Secondly,Sheriff has put him in his place again (a man nobody has respect for corner)

Goodluck Ebele Jonathan,if you are reading this write up by me,then listen to my advice very well.

Nobody respects you. Nobody respects your words. And most importantly,There was never a time you were called a leader or stateman in the PDP,so stop acting like one.

The little respect your paid " Online Supporters " have for you,please save it and go away before even the people you pay now lose respect for you too.

A president for 5years, a former governor, a former Local government chairman. My brother, put some respeck on it.

Regardless of political difference, race,culture, habits, attitudes, you gotta respect those at the top, except u ain't raised well. Even Buhari, Obasanjo respect that man regardless of their enormous differences, wtf are u? Some maniac? He can demand for an audience with the President or anybody in the country and the worst they can do is to schedule, nigga you can't even get an audience with your local government councillor or something.

IDGAF abt him, I agree he failed when he was at the hem of affairs, but stfu, you can't even lead the team of paid trolls defending the APC online. Just shut up. Pdp is dead and dying, but you, google your real name, your moniker is more important than your personality.

12inches1:
You dont know much about hacking. The greatest hacking right now is social hacking which is exactly what yahoo boys are involved in. Yahoo boys are a talent untapped. Or how did you think fappening hacking (google it) happened. Pure social hackening that took apple servers down.

This is a joke right? Yahoo boys don't hack.

Social engineering could be used to hack but its not hacking on its own.

phreakabit:
You seem emotionally hurt. . Are you ok?
Keep spewing incoherent bullshit in a bid to cover up your intellectual inadequacies, or should I say your apparent inability to comprehend.
Talking about softwares and all this BS!
Lazarus, APTs and all of that laughable crap! You are either a script kiddie, a poorly trained IT professional like the ones I mentioned or one of those guys who knows nothing and simply reads what he finds on the internet. The real professionals don't use any of those BS you typed there. A remote vulnerability in the server/database must be exploited to deliver a payload, which is most times coded from scratch to achieve the title "UNSEEN" and evade Anti-Viruses/ Anti-intrusion systems. You should do your homework and familiarize yourself with MSF and Exploits-db to know more about whats going on in security, even with those, you'd still be way behind.

Sincere apologies, I thought I was exchanging words with a professional. Initially you claimed Lazarus evaded detections, I explained that it's only your mindset. Now you're talking AV, IPS/IDS, etc, most are signature based and all recent attacks utilizes APTs, you can't exploit what you can't access. FYI most hackings are done by script kiddies, criminals and non professionals, professionals are usually involved in controlled hacking -whitehat! Lastly, if hacking is all abt exploiting vulnerabilities, you won't even detect most as the Firewalls and IPS will 'stand in the way'. Payload are designed specifically for an event, so except you're using a generic hack, you have to write yours and you just dont throw it at any vulnerability you find. You do know about hacking of 1990s though, however, the world have moved on and you should too.

You seem to use insults as a way of hiding your mental deficiencies and you equally have issues with professionals in the field. Is it envy that made you so angry at them? To the point you wish they loose their jobs? Except in developing countries, otherwise when there's an hack, its management that looses their jobs, not the professionals.. Face your field bro, don't intrude on what youre not capable of understanding.

NB: 'Lazarus' is the codename of the hacking group from NorthKorea, APT-Advanced Persistent Threats are newer methods of getting into an environment, evading antiviruses, firewalls and IPS. Now, because you've never heard of something doesn't make it laughable.

phreakabit:
Your are way too simple minded to understand the magnitude of this situation. . . . Till you are affected.
Ask your slow self how it went unnoticed?
if it wasn't unnoticed how come it wasn't reported or how and why wasn't/hasn't the vulnerability been patched?

I'll take your insult lightly, its a virtue of your upbringing. You dont know jack abt anything obviously. It was not unnoticed nor unreported (its nobody's fault if you dont read or keep abreast with global events), the hack wasnt successful in Nigerian banks, though 'success' is relative in this context. And they dont use vulnerabilities as u know them, they run APTs, Lazarus isn't new, they've been on for years, they hacked Sony- if u remember, they only went financial last year, they breached Bangladesh towards taking money from the US federal reserve and till date 70M usd is still missing. Their major target is banks in Asia, Nigeria don't do such enormous transfers out of the country so its easy to detect.

Sometimes, keep quiet and conceal your ignorance.

phreakabit:
Where are all those IT security experts, RED teams and Pen-testers hired by the banks?
All those quacks we see on TV wearing expensive suites, with legs crossed speaking IT lingo and using technical jargon.
Bunch of fucking quacks
Someones about to lose their job. LMAO!

SO someone loosing his job interest you and make you happy? Wtf! I thought only the Devil enjoy the pains of others.

LionDeLeo:
You can go ahead defending fraud, that's your plate of rice not mine. Infact, from your defence, I'm no longer in doubt of what you are.

You seem to be emphasising on this travelling as if there is anything in travelling abroad. Where and where have you been?

Fyi, my job has taken me to 4 places in India alone (Mumbai, Delhi, Kochi and Ahmedabad) all on different occasions, no need mentioning other countries for now and I have never had any reason to be segregated on the basis of my colour and in fact, I do get treated with respect throughout my stay in any of the visits. On that basis, I will tell you that what is happening to Nigerians now is nothing but the handwork of fraudsters who keep "developing" the whole world.

I'm a black African and I'm very proud of that but what I will eternally be ashamed of being identified with is crime. You are free to choose what you wish to be your identity, after all...

I worked with Infosys at one point, so I've interacted well with Indians, but screw your inferiority complex, it's sickening. Indians are as guilty in fraud and no one is yet burning them at the stake, there are laws for a purpose. You are black in colour but Indian in heart, they've reclocked your brain and its not synchronizing properly.

iykofias:
holy molly

How can someone hate his own race? Its scary

LionDeLeo:
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First, you said the argument is about violation of extant laws and apparently you can stand further for your conviction, hence a reason for the outburst and name-calling and you will still turn around to accuse me of reporting (crying like a toddler) if I decide to copy mod . Na like this e dey take start.

Furthermore, what makes you think I will be blind to defend the embarrassing activities being engaged in by some Nigerians abroad? You may call them my ancestors and whichever description that suits you, that is your fvcking biz and that doesn't rule out the fact that we are being embarrassed by some Nigerians all over the world, not only in India. These failure to recognise the fact that our conducts are getting intolerable by other countries is the more reason we keep getting more embarrassed because we always want to defend acts that are blatantly wrong because they are being perpetrated by Nigerians. I understand even Dubai has stopped giving Nigerians visa. While all these are being done, there are countries whose passports can take you to over 178 countries without visa, keep deceiving yourselves, time is coming when even Ghana and Cameroun will tell you a visa is required for you to get into their countries and will start denying you that visa.

You are there saying I don't travel, you that have been travelling, can you upload the non sensitive parts of your used ppt pages and lets count the countries you have been to? Gerrout.

I'm not fighting with you, pick a fight with your kind. You don't seem to understand anybodys point, you stick to your gun defending ur ancestors (call the mod on that).

Lots of Nigerians break the laws out there and even in naija, that does not justify mob action by Indians, Indians equally break the laws in Nigeria and Nigerians dont carry out mob actions on them.

You're ashamed of your race, such inferiority complex brews in you, its a shame!

Nigeria have huge population of fraudsters. Nigeria have huge population across the world of high intellectuals, geniuses excelling in their fields. No red, white or multicoloured man can tell me otherwise.


Statistically, India has more fraudsters than Nigeria, even US has more fraudsters, more criminals, that's something youl never find out.

Once again, if you travel alot or if you're exposed, you'll realize that racism isn't a Nigerian thing, its a black and White thing.

I'm done arguing with you, until you become proud of your heritage, please keep defending ur ancestors - the red Indians..

LionDeLeo:
Which labour laws are they breaking? Were conditions not spelt out to their employees b4 they joined? If you think Indian-owned establishments are violating any labour law because they underpay their staff, what should we say about foreign oil companies that pay mouth watering salaries? Are they also violating laws? If it is sack, do you think private firms will take the nonsense of workers reporting for work only when they like and expect to be praised just the way government establishments are being ran? Are there no Nigerians working in India? Abeg, all these our orientations are affecting us outside already. Are Nigerians the only foreign nationals in India and south Africa? Why only Nigerians. Or you think all these our attitudes can be tolerated anywhere outside Nigeria?

No point arguing with u, you'll defend your Indian ancestors all the same. Its a shame you're not capable of thinking.

Fyi, the attacks in India and south Africa target blacks nt only Nigerians, Zimbabwean suffers more in SA than Nigeria. You sure don't travel and argue only based on what u read and assume. Good luck with ur devil advocates' job

LionDeLeo:
Mynd44, OAM4J seun

As soon as youre fed with what you throw at people, u start reporting to the mod as a toddler, bro, grow up and keep aside such childish attitude.

Keep defending the Indians, you red Indian blood

LionDeLeo:
Very shallow. If Indians disobey the labour law, are you under obligation to work with them?

I guess your childishness includes insulting people . If u read what I wrote, I said there were labour laws. The laws are broken, not abt who work for them.

Once again, learn to be objective and stick to the topic. The Argument was on breaking of laws.

LionDeLeo:
If India imports fake drugs, pls name the countries that important genuine drugs into Nigeria.

Dont change the goal post, Indian import fake drugs to Nigeria, india break our laws by subjecting their employees in Nigeria to inhumane conditions, there are labour laws, remember?

Mind you if a Nigerian go to India to import fake drugs, both the Indian and the Nigerian broke the law. Stop defending what you do not know

This might be funny to the op, but this is buffoonery. Exposing people's personal identifiable information online as a joke is way too ridiculous. I believe some people genuinely need the money and others dont

I feel like sending 5k to 10 of the ppl on the thread but I won't knw the criteria to use, so I won't.

Jesusloveyou:
fashola, onu and ameachi have more than that result your ineffectual buffoon get with expo

How can u be using such userid and filled with so much hatred pain and animosity? I guess you're the class that was soon of, that will say Lord! Lord! We have cast out demons in your name...

You need to even pray for those that despitefully use you... You have no idea on the username u bear, pls repent

jayAjoku:
omo his kingdom is of this world and of the world above if e dey pain you na ur biz so na only for heaven christians suppose reign? show me where it says that we shouldn't enjoy heaven on earth first and then i will sell my self to you . its a pity you don't have the mindset of reigning on earth

I really do not want to argue with you since you're not interested in understanding a point before responding. There is no such thing as heaven on earth, heaven aint on earth. If you're a christian, your goal aint on earth, its important to 'enjoy your life' on earth, but thats relative. your kingdom can not be of this world and of the kingdom of God, as much as you cant serve two masters.

The kingdom of this world is ruled by a leader-the Devil and we are ambassadors of Christ, not joint heirs with the devil- try to understand that. there's a thin line between 'merrying' on earth and having a kingdom of the world. So yes, you should live to the fullest on earth but if you miss your mark, you've lost out. quoting your last line, it is equally not said anywhere that you should enjoy 'heaven on earth' once again, there is no such thing as heaven on earth. the most important thing is to fear God and keep his commandments, anything short, its wasted efforts.


On the pastor and kemi, let the law prevail. Be it known that if Jesus had gone to the law to defend himself against those who said he cast out demons using beelzebub, he would have ridiculed the gospel, if they call HIM names, who are we that they wont blasphame?

Vanessa88:
Don't mind this peeps.. They really don't know who Papa is in ph/ Rivers state .. or his believes

Don't slip into worshiping him

jayAjoku:
ah swear church that has all 5 services packed . bible says touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm bible also said what would happen if you do and kemi is feeling it

I don't count kemi as human, nevertheless, the pastor's Kingdom is certainly of this world based on what you wrote.

jayAjoku:
ah swear church that has all 5 services packed . bible says touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm bible also said what would happen if you do and kemi is feeling it

I don't punt kemi as human, nevertheless, the pastor's Kingdom is certainly of this world based on what you wrote.

Vanessa88:
He hasn't been to the church that's why he is saying such

The Church that the whole of Port Harcourt they scrabble to go to... You have to push people inorder to pass

...the way of multitude...

Bad ass governor...

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