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Well, not surprising one set of incompetenta and corrupt buffoons will congratulate another sets of incompetent and corrupt buffoons over an apppaling job they did.

BKayy:
South South?
My dear Shameless Afonja man, unlike you busy body people we have pound Igbo clans in Rivers State. And I am not talking about Ikwerre.
We have Asa/Ndoki plus Egbema etc in that Rivers state so mind your business.
Busy Body

You're still not from the South South, Eboe boy.

BKayy:
Somebody that comes from a place where women tie one piece wrapper for 8 months like Ogbomosho, Ibadan and Ogun shouldn't talk about dirtiness except it has a different meaning to you people

Abia people are the dirtiest people on planet earth, that's just a fact. We can also see your utterly dirty hostels in Enugu. Very dirty people!

omoalayo:
Wey the site??

When you build something digital, what you think of first is the website, so I ask again, where is the site? So we can at least check if it’s worth it or not…

But I just accessed the site EkoDigitalSchool.com na. Of all the questions you could raise about this Eko digital program, it's the site that's already written there for you that you could criticize? Do some of you just find any reason to criticize?

Okoyeeboz:
See this fool, you want your children to keep suffering provided BBC Yoruba doesn't report it. Oponu.

The money meant for building your schools is used to compensate illiterate traders in Sokoto but you're here talking nonsense.

The dimwit isn't even from Rivers or the South South, he's an Eboe boy.

FreeIgbos:
Yorubas are funny people, they like mocking others but if you expose them they will call their ethnocentric mod to delete it. I created this informative them but he rushed and deleted it.

Igbos and Yorubas are unarguably two of Nigeria's most globally recognized ethnic groups. They've excelled in many areas of human endeavors and locally, they tend to have divergent opinion in their worldviews which has been variously misinterpreted. However, this thread will lay bare the structural differences which many either do not know, sugar coat or outrightly deny for sundry reasons.

1. Igbos are natural democrats with a liberal worldview while Yorubas are heirachial and abhor democratic tendencies: This is one of the reasons why the two groups often clash rhetorically and accuse each other for being hateful and antagonistic. Yorubas have a culture stymied in "bambiala" reverence to fellow man while Igbos on the other hand believe that all men were born equal and one can become whatever they want if they work hard. This is at the core of what makes a character like Tinubu to thrive and assume a god status among Yorubas. But similar characters in Igboland will be derided. People like Rochas and Orji Uzor Kalu would have succeeded just like Tinubu if they were Yorubas in assuming a god status and similarly Tinubu wouldn't have succeeded in pocketing Lagos since 1999 if Lagos was an Igbo state. Igbos would have sent him packing after his statutory 8 years as governor!

Before Tinubu, we also had other Yorubas who were elevated to god status such as Awolowo and Abiola. During their lifetime, these same people were literally worshipped by Yorubas and it's not neccesarily because they sacrificed or did wonders for their people rather it was the bambiala culture that caused it. Igbos also had great leaders that sacrificed or did exceptionally well for them such as Michael Okpara, Ojukwu and Sam Mbakwe but they were only respected and never worshipped. Even when Ojukwu returned from exile to contest for elective positions in governance, he wasn't voted for out of principle! Sam Mbakwe, Ojukwu and Michael Okpara all retired to live out their old ages in peace but if they were in the West, just like Awolowo did, the bambiala culture will not only enable him to primitively accumulate wealth but will also make it easy for him to continue to call the shots till they die.

Igbos don't hate Tinubu as Yorubas wrongly believe rather they hate what he represents! Igbos have attacked Rochas and Orji Uzor Kalu more than they have attacked Tinubu. It amounts to idiotic reasoning to want Igbos not to criticize Tinubu when they form a significant percentage of the population in Lagos and pays tax yet same Tinubu is kneeling on the necks of everyone in Lagos by institutionalizing corruption in that state.

2. Igbos have a more principled worldview while Yorubas are fairweather in nature: Igbos are ready to swim and sink with whoever they align with but Yorubas will jump ship the moment they see you're sinking and I will give you examples. Ojukwu, GEJ, Nnamdi Kanu will suffice here. During the war, Igbos stood with Ojukwu even when they were blockaded and were being starved or bombed to death! Igbos stood with GEJ even when he came under scathing criticisms till the day he stepped down! Igbos have massively supported Nnamdi Kanu through thick and thin! The Igbos are reliable allies who stand by their word but Yorubas will change course when things get out of hand, and that's what they term "sophistication". Awolowo was quoted as saying, if Igbos should leave Nigeria, Yorubas will leave too. Earlier, same Awolowo called Nigeria a mere geographical expression. In essence, he never believed in the country. However, when Ojukwu took the initiative and presented an opportunity for Awolowo to have his dream Oduduwa republic, he chickened out and decided to stay neutral and watch which side will have the upper hand so he can team up with them. If Biafra had an upper hand, Awolowo would have teamed up with Ojukwu!

3. Igbos Hate Injustice/Oppression And They Always Voice Out But Yorubas Will Rather Suffer In Silence Just To Be Politically Correct: when you oppress Igbos, either as an Igbo man or outsider, they will wail, complain, vilify, criticize and do whatever they can to show their displeasure. In essence, they don't suffer fools gladly. Igbos don't hate Fulanis more than Yorubas or others in Nigeria but while others are willing to be closet haters just to avoid antagonising them, Igbos don't mind saying it with a microphone. Igbos never hated or verbally attacked Umaru Musa Yaradua (a core Fulani man) when he was president simply because they believed he was a good man. Now that's a food for thought!

4. Igbos Don't Mind Washing Their Dirty Linens In Public If That Would Bring Change But Yorubas Will Rather Allow Keep Mum To Avoid Embarrassment: When the Orji's allowed Aba to rot, with bad roads and filth everywhere. Igbos didn't try to hide it to avoid embarrassment instead they began a campaign of exposing the rot in Aba. In Facebook, nairaland, Twitter etc, we were assaulted with disgusting pictures of terrible looking roads which others didn't waste to start mocking us with. However, the onslaught against the state government started paying dividends now go to those roads now, particularly Ngwa/School road, P.H road, Eziukwu etc that used to be an eyesore and you won't believe how neat they are now. The governor must had sleepless nights with all those attacks he faced! Now, let's draw a parallel again. Aba is to Abia State what Sango/Ota is to Ogun State. Today, Sango/Ota has some of the worst roads you can think of in Nigeria, if not the world but Yorubas will rather keep calm, suffer silently and even attack anyone that tries to expose the rot in that town. Even within the almighty Lagos too, there are lots of terrible roads and disgusting environment but anyone trying to expose it will come under attack by Yorubas who either don't want to be embarrassed or because they feel no one should question their leader.

Should Nigeria divide today, I can bet you that Oduduwa will have sit tight rulers that will make the likes of Paul Biya and Mugabe green envy while Igbos will practice a very vibrant democracy with no room for sit tight rulers.

Lol, this clown even says Eboes hate oppression unlike Yoruba. Please Eboe boy, can you show me the Eboe version of Fela, Beko, Fawehinmi, Falana, Tai Solarin, Wole Soyinka, Sowore? Can you show me your Eboe governors who have been vociferously speaking out against Fulani open grazing and calling for restructuring like Akeredolu and South West governors? He even says Eboes will practise a very vibrant democracy, lol. When your people are being flogged like goats and having their food thrown away for not observing a sit-at-home order of some deplorable miscreants? Lmao.

FreeIgbos:
Yorubas are funny people, they like mocking others but if you expose them they will call their ethnocentric mod to delete it. I created this informative them but he rushed and deleted it.

Igbos and Yorubas are unarguably two of Nigeria's most globally recognized ethnic groups. They've excelled in many areas of human endeavors and locally, they tend to have divergent opinion in their worldviews which has been variously misinterpreted. However, this thread will lay bare the structural differences which many either do not know, sugar coat or outrightly deny for sundry reasons.

1. Igbos are natural democrats with a liberal worldview while Yorubas are heirachial and abhor democratic tendencies: This is one of the reasons why the two groups often clash rhetorically and accuse each other for being hateful and antagonistic. Yorubas have a culture stymied in "bambiala" reverence to fellow man while Igbos on the other hand believe that all men were born equal and one can become whatever they want if they work hard. This is at the core of what makes a character like Tinubu to thrive and assume a god status among Yorubas. But similar characters in Igboland will be derided. People like Rochas and Orji Uzor Kalu would have succeeded just like Tinubu if they were Yorubas in assuming a god status and similarly Tinubu wouldn't have succeeded in pocketing Lagos since 1999 if Lagos was an Igbo state. Igbos would have sent him packing after his statutory 8 years as governor!

Before Tinubu, we also had other Yorubas who were elevated to god status such as Awolowo and Abiola. During their lifetime, these same people were literally worshipped by Yorubas and it's not neccesarily because they sacrificed or did wonders for their people rather it was the bambiala culture that caused it. Igbos also had great leaders that sacrificed or did exceptionally well for them such as Michael Okpara, Ojukwu and Sam Mbakwe but they were only respected and never worshipped. Even when Ojukwu returned from exile to contest for elective positions in governance, he wasn't voted for out of principle! Sam Mbakwe, Ojukwu and Michael Okpara all retired to live out their old ages in peace but if they were in the West, just like Awolowo did, the bambiala culture will not only enable him to primitively accumulate wealth but will also make it easy for him to continue to call the shots till they die.

Igbos don't hate Tinubu as Yorubas wrongly believe rather they hate what he represents! Igbos have attacked Rochas and Orji Uzor Kalu more than they have attacked Tinubu. It amounts to idiotic reasoning to want Igbos not to criticize Tinubu when they form a significant percentage of the population in Lagos and pays tax yet same Tinubu is kneeling on the necks of everyone in Lagos by institutionalizing corruption in that state.

2. Igbos have a more principled worldview while Yorubas are fairweather in nature: Igbos are ready to swim and sink with whoever they align with but Yorubas will jump ship the moment they see you're sinking and I will give you examples. Ojukwu, GEJ, Nnamdi Kanu will suffice here. During the war, Igbos stood with Ojukwu even when they were blockaded and were being starved or bombed to death! Igbos stood with GEJ even when he came under scathing criticisms till the day he stepped down! Igbos have massively supported Nnamdi Kanu through thick and thin! The Igbos are reliable allies who stand by their word but Yorubas will change course when things get out of hand, and that's what they term "sophistication". Awolowo was quoted as saying, if Igbos should leave Nigeria, Yorubas will leave too. Earlier, same Awolowo called Nigeria a mere geographical expression. In essence, he never believed in the country. However, when Ojukwu took the initiative and presented an opportunity for Awolowo to have his dream Oduduwa republic, he chickened out and decided to stay neutral and watch which side will have the upper hand so he can team up with them. If Biafra had an upper hand, Awolowo would have teamed up with Ojukwu!

3. Igbos Hate Injustice/Oppression And They Always Voice Out But Yorubas Will Rather Suffer In Silence Just To Be Politically Correct: when you oppress Igbos, either as an Igbo man or outsider, they will wail, complain, vilify, criticize and do whatever they can to show their displeasure. In essence, they don't suffer fools gladly. Igbos don't hate Fulanis more than Yorubas or others in Nigeria but while others are willing to be closet haters just to avoid antagonising them, Igbos don't mind saying it with a microphone. Igbos never hated or verbally attacked Umaru Musa Yaradua (a core Fulani man) when he was president simply because they believed he was a good man. Now that's a food for thought!

4. Igbos Don't Mind Washing Their Dirty Linens In Public If That Would Bring Change But Yorubas Will Rather Allow Keep Mum To Avoid Embarrassment: When the Orji's allowed Aba to rot, with bad roads and filth everywhere. Igbos didn't try to hide it to avoid embarrassment instead they began a campaign of exposing the rot in Aba. In Facebook, nairaland, Twitter etc, we were assaulted with disgusting pictures of terrible looking roads which others didn't waste to start mocking us with. However, the onslaught against the state government started paying dividends now go to those roads now, particularly Ngwa/School road, P.H road, Eziukwu etc that used to be an eyesore and you won't believe how neat they are now. The governor must had sleepless nights with all those attacks he faced! Now, let's draw a parallel again. Aba is to Abia State what Sango/Ota is to Ogun State. Today, Sango/Ota has some of the worst roads you can think of in Nigeria, if not the world but Yorubas will rather keep calm, suffer silently and even attack anyone that tries to expose the rot in that town. Even within the almighty Lagos too, there are lots of terrible roads and disgusting environment but anyone trying to expose it will come under attack by Yorubas who either don't want to be embarrassed or because they feel no one should question their leader.

Should Nigeria divide today, I can bet you that Oduduwa will have sit tight rulers that will make the likes of Paul Biya and Mugabe green envy while Igbos will practice a very vibrant democracy with no room for sit tight rulers.

Lol, coming from a dimwit whose people worship a mentally unstable scammer and even kiss his feet? You people that one man orders to enter the bush? Same you people that one man orders you to sit at home or else...? Lol, delusions of grandeur.

EzeAnambra:
Ogogoro has really dealt with this our oyel people, foolish set of drunkards

BKayy oya come and tell your Eboe brother that South South is not his business.

BKayy:
Leave them. Those guys and busy body na 5&6.
I think it's just a way to make themselves feel like others are in the same mess as them.
If you follow their media and statistics, you will be deceived. For example in development, go to SW states apart from Lagos and you'll be shocked by what you'll see. Apart from extreme core North, where they still use camels and donkeys, no other region has dilapidated structures and extreme poor dirty people like them.

Lol, no one in this country has poor dirty people like those utterly dirty ones in Aba who sell and eat inside dirts, Eboe boy.

atorioke:
And their government schools nor even better reach the Rivers schools. Who quote me anyhow ehn, I go enter secondary schools for Abeokuta and snap the hell out of them and lost them here.

Oya snap them, let us see.

BKayy:
And what concerns BBC Yoruba with far away Rivers state?
See Afonja Busy Body even affect BBC because they added Yoruba to the regional branch name

And what also concerns you with South South or even Lagos affairs, Eboe boy?

Audio outlaw.

Brian47:
With the prices of data in this country, online school na wash oo

From the article: "While maintaining that plans are ongoing to ensure that the learning platform is data free in order to give equal access to all students in Lagos."

VivaDeAngelo:
The Ayo I know is dark in complexion.

Maybe the Ayo you know is dark in complexion, but Ayo Adesanya has always been light skinned.

MyExpression:
He was the highest paid African player when he joined PSG.

Is that what you pay an average player

Wetin dey worry una with hatred for this nairaland sef?!

Lol, baseless point. A bang average footballer like Andy Carroll was the most expensive British player ever when he was signed for £35 million by Liverpool.

georgeakins:
Why was he not one of the highest paid players during his time?

Why was he not playing for one of the top clubs? He never played in any champions league matches

While you've made a right point, where did you get your own information that Okocha never played in any Champions League matches? The ones he played for PSG nko? I mean, I could remember him scoring for PSG against Deportivo La Coruna in the Champions League in 2001 or so. PSG ended up losing the match 4-3 after leading 3-0. I remember a certain Walter Pandiani scoring a hattrick (three headers) for Deportivo after coming on from the bench.

LibertyRep:
...or maybe he came as an African.

Okocha would easily have been in contention for the world best if he was an European in his playing days.

Lol, no be only world best, na Universe best. Since he was an African, how come he never won an African footballer of the year award? So many delusional people in this country.

Calibrator:
Okocha is all about tricks with a negligible number of end results. He is in the same bracket as present day Ben Arfa, Isco, Ndombele, Maxim of Newcastle and the rest.



He is only held in high regards by Nigerians out of sentiment.

Before you come to my mention and start countering with emotions, ask yourself......

As an attacking midfielder with almost non existent defensive responsibilities, how many goals or assists did he clock during his career? And how many high ranked clubs ever placed a bid for his services?

While Okocha has been ridiculously overhyped by Nigerians, comparing Ben Arfa, Ndombele to him is a grave disrespect. Utter blasphemy!

Fahdiga:
Even as he is joking about it but it is quite the truth. Jay Jay would have been one of the highest paid players in the world if he was still playing and at his prime

So, how come he wasn't one of the highest paid players when he was in his prime during his time?

"For many Nigerian fans, Okocha’s magical skills on the field of play is comparable to whatever Messi offers in present day football." Both the clown that wrote this and the many Nigerian fans who believe the same are the most delusional imbeciles on the planet.

No need, baba werey!

Like Ohanaeze, like MURIC and Shettima Yerima. Bunch of despicable, hypocritical, self-righteous, holier-than-thou religious scallywags. Screaming about "moral decay!" all the time as if they're also not waiting in line to embezzle money. While I do not like this BBN show at all, it's just amusing how these utterly worthless dickheads at Ohanaeze, MURIC, and some Arewa group want a show banned just because of "muh morals!" FOOLS!

hisgrace090:
Dr maduka is not one of them.

Lol, keep falling for the gimmicks of politicians.

On a second thougt, are his images being removed because of legal brouhaha that could arise over Messi's image rights?

Lmao, Spanish football clubs are so petty when it comes to treating their legend, so this isn't surprising.

If this had happened to a babalawo, we know how these Christian religitards would be mocking him and asking "where were the gods"? Which is why I'm also asking you Christians where your Jesus and his imaginary father in the sky were when this pastor drowned?

This is a bloody lie! Ghana is working. Ghana has great infrastructures so how come the actress is saying the Ghanaian fire service didn't have thr necessary skills or equipment to quickly quench a fire? Lies!

queenamawo:
https://queenamawo.ng/eyn-church-demolition-members-still-worship-at-the-same-premises-photos/

Lol, which stupid body of Christ still stands when your so-called Christ and his non-existent father couldn't prevent his house from being demolished? Religious sheeple!

Nisiw365:
Benin miacreants don't make use of their brain

Lol, it seems so

TAO11:
This information is indeed a Mena[n]ce to society.

First, there is zero evidence for the popular idea that Yorubas aDoPtEd/bOrRoWed “agbada” (or any name you insert) from nOrThErNeRs.

Oh, let me add that by evidence I refer to historical sources, not modern conjectures, norWikipedia, not internet blogs.

As a clarifying appendix, could you please tell me where southern “Nigeria” people’s of old all borrowed wrapper things from — since it’s found in other world cultures?

Also, you may like to tell me from whom did southern “Nigeria” people of the distant ancient times borrow leaves, skin (as clothing) from since it was present as clothing in other parts of the ancient world?

I’d wait.
Cc: BSsniffer

Outside Wikipedia, which anyone clown can edit anyway, this genius actually can't name any reputable source that agbada was borrowed from some nonsensical babanriga.

TAO11:
These aren’t recent from bloggers.

Your kings have Yoruba praise names some of which were collected by R. E. Dennet 115 years ago from Benin.

See 1st screenshot featuring Adimula, Õṣa’keji, et. al. Tell us the meanings of these if they are Bini words.


Your screenshot is an opinion of a certain Ryder from the year 1965.

Guess what has happened between 1965 and 2021 in the field of historical scholarship of African history.

The field of historical scholarship of African history has unanimously debunked that opinion from Ryder.

See for example:

A. Akinjogbin (1967), F. Willett (1973), R. C. C. Law (1973), R. Horton (1979), A. Obayemi (1980), R. Smith (1988), B. Adediran (1991), D. Bondarenko (2003), S. A. Akintoye (2010), A. Ogundiran (2020), et al.

A summary of this unanimous conclusion of scholars is aptly put in a 2016 publication as attached below in the 2nd screenshot below:

Cheers!
Cc: Newton85

I swear, this gregyboy dude is obviously ill-educated and mentally unstable. I can't believe the codswallop he's writing, lol. The slowpoke even claimed Oduduwa doesn't exist in Bini folklore. What an ass hat!

TAO11:
These aren’t recent from bloggers.

Your kings have Yoruba praise names some of which were collected by R. E. Dennet 115 years ago from Benin.

See 1st screenshot featuring Adimula, Õṣa’keji, et. al. Tell us the meanings of these if they are Bini words.


Your screenshot is an opinion of a certain Ryder from the year 1965.

Guess what has happened between 1965 and 2021 in the field of historical scholarship of African history.

The field of historical scholarship of African history has unanimously debunked that opinion from Ryder.

See for example:

A. Akinjogbin (1967), F. Willett (1973), R. C. C. Law (1973), R. Horton (1979), A. Obayemi (1980), R. Smith (1988), B. Adediran (1991), D. Bondarenko (2003), S. A. Akintoye (2010), A. Ogundiran (2020), et al.

A summary of this unanimous conclusion of scholars is aptly put in a 2016 publication as attached below in the 2nd screenshot below:

Cheers!
Cc: Newton85

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