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snazzydawn:
@the first poster of this thread........how can you prove that God does not exist?The God I know exists and is real.I pray he reveals himself to you soon...

It's up to you to prove that he [b]does [/b]exist in the first place. If you happen to meet him on day, tell him I'd like a chat

dejiolowe:
@punkdude. na wa for u. where is the evidence for evolution.

Please come back after you've read this. Mind you this is only a very tiny portion of all the evidence there is for evolution

dejiolowe:
evolution has only a crude theory.

Evolution is both a fact and a theory

maybe you need and introduction in what a scientific theory really is and where evolution fits into all of that:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_fact-and-theory.html

dejiolowe:
according to probabilities,

Probability of what in what context?

dejiolowe:
it is perfectly impossible for this world to have evolved in harmony.

What is harmony, by what process?

dejiolowe:
I was present at my child's birth and i wonder if all those processes could have happened by chance.

Chance is a minor component of the theory of evolution. I think you do not really know what the Theory of Evolution is about:
1. The Theory of Evolution does not deal with the existence of the universe, only with how life evolved from simpler life forms to the complex ones we see today.
2. Chance is a very minimal component of the Theory of evolution. The only place where chance plays a role is in the fact that the genome of all living organisms is undergoing random mutations.
3. The processes of natural selection, punctuated equilibria, genetic drift and sexual selection are anything but chance driven processes.

dejiolowe:
if evolution is for real, how come we don't see any work in progress.

The process of evolution generally works on geologic timescales for complex organisms (thousands to millions of years), so the results would not be that obvious at first sight (but they are there, even in humans: sickle cell anemia, lactose tolerance,...) We do see rapid evolution in progress in simpler organisms with a faster lifecycle such as bacteria or insects. Resistance of bacteria against antibiotics is a perfect example.

dejiolowe:
Like half man half monkey or something like that...

There were several hominid species walking the earth a few ten to hundred thousand years ago. The success of our own species, Homo Sapiens, drove them to extinction.
There are already animals that could be called half man - half monkey: chimpansees, but that's probably not what you want to hear

ijebuman:
And still on the 80s who was a big Michael Jackson fan back then (before he was 'bad' and 'dangerous') come on you can admit it

I was very much a Michael Jackson fan when he still looked like a human being and not like a wax doll for Madame Tussaud's. Didn't have the money then to buy any records, copied thriller from LP to cassette and made the cassete cover myself. I still have that tape
Started to appreciate Prince more, especially after Parade, never went back to Wacko Jacko. That was about the time I expanded my musical horizon a little: Sly and the Family Stone, U2, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Jazz (Coltrane and Miles Davis), ...

ijebuman:
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Used to be a big Prince fan, i loved 'Kiss, I wanna_ be your lover, Alphabet street, 1999, When Doves Cry' and then his stuff with the new power generation..

and then he went through that crazy phase in the 90s when he changed his name to a sign. (thats when i moved on )

Well, he's never been quite normal, has he
His newer work is still OK, but no longer of the level of his earlier stuff. I've been to two of his concerts, the most amazing performance you can imagine (haven't had a chance to go to an afterparty, though )

layi:
They'll tell u it takes millions or quintillion of years to move in between epochs (notable change) and homo sapiens is yet to spend a million years. probably

The oldest evidence of Homo Sapiens is only 195.000 years old (fossils found in Ethiopia)
The oldest Homo Sapiens left Africa only 50.000 years ago

layi:
I still ask. Did evolution start from "thin air"?

Of course not. Should it?

I wonder if I have to repeat the same things over and over again, but here it comes:
see the following contributions I made(just in 1 thread, if you like, I could also search in some of the other threads):
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-3833.32.html#msg128860
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-3833.64.html#msg132020
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-3833.64.html#msg132020
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-3833.64.html#msg132020
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-3833.128.html#msg137480
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-3833.128.html#msg137480
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-3833.160.html#msg142618

Note: The Theory of Evolution does [b]not [/b]explain the origin of life or the origin of the universe. That is not in the scope of the Theory of Evolution

Anyone into Prince:
Around the world in a day
Raspberry Beret
Another Lonely Christmas
Erotic City
When Doves Cry
Anotherloverholinyahead
If I was your Girlfriend
The Cross (for our Christian friends)
Darling Nikki (for the freaks)
Kiss
....

It already has been discussed quite extensively here:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-2149.0.html

Expand your argument, goodguy. I'm waiting

chrisd:
Consider love and music, they are also irrational. That does not make them wrong or untrue. I mean, you really think I am an irrational man about being Catholic. I don't think so, if one believes more what religion teaches than just for the sake of tradition. I am not that stupid.

Point taken, the trueness lies in the value it gives you.
If you analyse what the religion teaches you, then you will come to the conclusion that that knowledge is not dependent on your religion. A lot of these values are universal human values. And if you take the Bible as a source, then you would still need to discard those portions that contradict your values