Recently, a number of threads have been raising some pertinent questions about the historical reliability of the narratives about Jesus. We have had questions that have;

1) Questioned the prophecies of his virgin birth
2) Questioned the nativity narratives
3) Challenged the narratives about his crucifixion and resurrection
4) Questioned the authenticity of the pronoucements attributed to him

In this thread, I would like to ask a slightly different question, viz;

What do we know (or have) about the Jesus story that have all the hallmarks of historical verifiability and authenticity? Is there anything about which there is no dispute but rather unanumous agreement as historical facts?

If there are element of doubtful historicity, what consequence would that have on any foundational doctrine based on it?

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Some of my other threads


The Dangers Of Religious Fundamentalism To Intellectualism
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=110955.msg1929006#msg1929006

What Can Be Said To Be Definitely Known About Jesus?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-114935.0.html

Origin Of Christianity And Diabolical Mimicry In Anticipation
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113860.0.html

Hell Past, Hell Present; Which Do You Prefer?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113947.0.html#msg1971669

The Sexual Act And Christian Teaching
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-114332.0.html

Scientific Rationalism, Reason And Faith: Which Produces Systematic Knowledge?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-114253.0.html

On The Prophesy Of The Virgin Birth Of Jesus, Part 2:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113676.0.html

On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-114215.0.html

When And From Where Did Jesus Ascend Into Heaven
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113519.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-114023.0.html#msg1972418
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-114023.0.html#msg1972418

When Was Jesus Born?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113449.0.html

On The Prophesy Of The Virgin Birth Of Jesus [/b]13012dg
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113342.0.html#msg1963529

[b] Was Jesus The Prophesied Messiah? Let's Look At The Evidence.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113303.0.html

What Are Your Chances Of Being Saved?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113283.0.html

Who Wrote The Gospels And When Were They Written?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113277.0.html#msg1962589

God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113186.0.html#msg1961537

Cannibalism In The Bible: Det 28:53-57, Lev 26:29, Jer 19:9, Ezek 5:10, Lam 4:10
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113181.0.html#msg1961343

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-112990.0.html

Faith-healer And Evangelist, Maurice Cerullo, Investigated
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113871.0.html

What Fate For Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Constantine And Tomás De Torquemada?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-112997.0.html#msg1958617

Is The Doctrine Of Trinity Biblical? The Johannine Comma
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-112865.0.html#msg1957266

On The Authenticity Of The New Testament, Part 2
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-112848.0.html

How Is Salvation Achieved?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-112833.0.html

Only For Those Who Know Their Bibles And Some History: Who Was Jesus?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112697.msg1954632#msg1954632

Only For Those Who Know Their Bibles: Old Testament Stories
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112679.msg1954426#msg1954426

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112584.msg1953340#msg1953340

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112578.msg1953311#msg1953311

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112557.msg1952665#msg1952665

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112547.msg1952353#msg1952353

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112398.msg1950528#msg1950528

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112377.msg1950291#msg1950291

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112262.msg1948957#msg1948957

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112259.msg1948919#msg1948919

On The Authenticity Of The New Testament, Part 1
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112240.msg1948631#msg1948631

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112216.msg1948180#msg1948180

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112139.msg1946940#msg1946940

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112114.msg1946682#msg1946682

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112086.msg1946268#msg1946268

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111928.msg1943935#msg1943935

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111677.msg1939992#msg1939992

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113161.0.html#msg1960928

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111645.msg1939155#msg1939155

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111482.msg1936158#msg1936158

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111474.msg1936099#msg1936099

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111466.msg1935975#msg1935975

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111227.msg1932655#msg1932655

Please, Help Me Out With Your Knowledge Of The Bible
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-111474.0.html

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111222.msg1932616#msg1932616

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111143.msg1931508#msg1931508

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=110965.msg1929160#msg1929160

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therationa:

What do we know (or have) about the Jesus story that have all the hallmarks of historical verifiability and authenticity? Is there anything about which there is no dispute but rather unanumous agreement as historical facts?

This short video talk about[b]:Did the people of the bible really exist?
Video:[/b] http://youtube.com/watch?v=H-iew1Gq-mE

Is it not this same Horus guy advocating for African gods and he is here following the behind of an atheist (that doesn't have a belief in God) all because he hates the christian God? Why are you deceiving yourself?

YOU are deceiving yourself,first you are OFF TOPIC,secondly watch the video to follow the subect of the topic.Christians like you are mixing all subjects,
This topic is:What Can Be Said To Be Definitely Known About Jesus?
Read first The suject of the topic and,post AFTER.

I've aready watched it Mr Horus, it was just another confused black man with the map of Africa on his shirt talking.

What are you? A deist or an atheist?

stillwater:

I've aready watched it Mr Horus, it was just another confused black man with the map of Africa on his shirt talking.

What wrong with Africa?.At least the man on the video is not Off Topic,and know what he is talking but you still dont know what a hell is the subject of this tread,who is confuse?

Anything that we know for sure about Jesus?

huxley:

Anything that we know for sure about Jesus?

YES

he was neither the son of God

nor

was he in any way God

For all who are so concern about the existence of Jesus, the deniers, I mean, will a person have to drop things behind, before you believe he/she was ever at a place taht others, apart from you saw him/her? This thinking, espectially the way the Black guy on the video way putting forward his argument, is very backward.

Did the Black guy on the video forgot that there was a Joseph who solved preemptively, the food scarcity and starvation that could have befell Egyptian territory of old? If he can proof to me that there was no grain/food storage facility/silo, ever built in Egypt, then I will provide another proof to the existence of the Children of Israel period in Egypt.

And those of you who always claim the children of Israel is inclusive of Jacob and his forebearers, his father Isaac, and his grandfather Ibrahim, arecompletely off the mark in heritage naming. If Jacob was renamed Israel, the people who can be called Children of Israel will have to be his descendants, and not his ascendants.

And by the way, I am a Mu.sli.m who is concerned only about the truth. Are there no Jews, the new name of the Children of Israel in Egypt? Are they not littered all over Northern Africa? Please people lets be really honest about inquiries.


And i support the statement of MC Usman, 100%.