I dont believe we have had more problems than Manure this season. When you consider Manure missing Vidic, Ferdy and VDS (most of season), Evans missing from October to January, Wes Brown in and out (now out for season), O'Shea out for season, Giggs (1 month), Anderson (season), Owen (season), not to talk of Hargreaves. . . . I think Manure have definitely had it worse.

We dropped a lot of points in December that we simply shouldnt have. Lets hope we can build some confidence over our next 3 games (West Ham, Portsmouth, Blackburn) before facing a whirlwind of 4 tough matches out of our last 7.


BTW, someone needs to speak to Drogba. I dont know how a professional footballer can fail to control a simple ball and pass it on. Yesterday he only made one successful pass to a teammate in the first half. Make una speak to the guy abeg.

Aswerigad, Drogba needs to go back to the basics.

I think his display has been hurtful but often overlooked cos he scores goals.

Should he fail to score in the next 2 games the moans and groans will become more pronounced.

Anelka, i thought had a good game yesterday.

nateevs:

Since you possess the key to this sacred room of profound knowledge, why don't you kindly educate us on your idea of "giving it our best shot". . .
According to you giving it our best shot would mean us being at least 15pts ahead. .

Now I ask you again what gives you the right to feel this way?

If we led the table for 95% of the season and you think we didn't give it our best shot, why don't you walk over to North London . . .
Get a grip man, you are losing perspective . . . In a league where every team has dropped more points than Chelsea after 28 matches you are actually suggesting we didn't give it our best shot. . . What then should the others say?

Absolute bollocks!

you are chatting garbage. In your daft logic, the team's assessment on how well they have perfomed should factor in the competition.

which means, making atrocious individual errors game after game and conceding cheap goals that sometimes cost us 2 or 3 pts that could easily have

been avoided, is giving it our best shot simply because we are on top of the league, what a totally flawed logic

How about  the whole top four teams (man utd, chelsea, liverpool, arsenal) have not giving it their all, this season.

We can use the analogy of a student who has the ability and potential to consistently get a 1st class and perfoms below par in a sem

( ending up with a 2.1/2.2) and in your rather pathetic defense of him you turn around and say he gave it his best shot simply because he is leading the class.

"giving it ones best shot" is not about leading the table but meeting or exceeding expectation in relative to ones ability and potential, now take that to the

bank

Nateevs,

Gaynners went to the ANC too, yet they've managed to catch up.
They lost major players this new season same with MU.
The likes of Tevez, Adebayor, CR7, Toure etc. Whom did we lose?

Which big player did Gaynners and MU buy?
Which team hasn't lost key players to injuries?

She was under good care taking care of me



who might this be

It is now we should give the team total support and not to come here and start complaining, lets watch the remaining 7 games and the last one i believe in the champions league against Inter before we start judging or giving surly retort about the team. . .Lets relax and watch the way they will handle each game as it comes. . . I still BELIEVE in the team as Nateev Do

Arsenal and United have sufferred more serious/long-term injuries than Chelsea since the start of the season.
Arsenal:
Nasri-3 months, RVP-5 months, Clichy-3 months, Eduardo- 2 months, Bendtner-2 months, Gibbs- 6 months, Djourou-8 months, Walcott- 3 months, Rosicky- 3 months, Vela-2 months, Ramsey-1 year.
Man Utd have had Vidic&Rio out for like 90% of the season, Evans & Brown have also been out for a long time(they had to play Carrick and Fletcher at CB for some games). Anderson, Owen & Oshea are out for the season. VDS broke his finger. Hargreaves hasnt kicked a ball since Jesus wept.
Bosingwa is the only Chelsea player in the starting XI i remember picking up a long-term injury from the start of the season till new year. Chelsea failed to take proper advantage, and now that their players are getting crocked for fun, their future looks very bleak.

jalether:

you are chatting garbage. In your daft logic, the team's assessment on how well they have perfomed should factor in the competition.

which means, making atrocious individual errors game after game and conceding cheap goals that sometimes cost us 2 or 3 pts that could easily have

been avoided, is giving it our best shot simply because we are on top of the league, what a totally flawed logic

How about  the whole top four teams (man utd, chelsea, liverpool, arsenal) have not giving it their all, this season.

We can use the analogy of a student who has the ability and potential to consistently get a 1st class and perfoms below par in a sem

( ending up with a 2.1/2.2) and in your rather pathetic defense of him you turn around and say he gave it his best shot simply because he is leading the class.

"giving it ones best shot" is not about leading the table but meeting or exceeding expectation in relative to ones ability and potential, now take that to the

bank

Never in the history of bullsh.it has anyone spilled so much bullsh.it.
Never in your life use such an analogy here again . . . You think you are talking to your little cousins?

A Student writing an exam is not against any competition. His class mates have no bearing on whether he finishes with a 2.1/2.2 . .
It's him against the exam . . . It boils down to whether he knows it or not.

Very different from a Student scoring points by knocking his Class mates out. . . Every class mate is a competition preventing him from taking full points to lead the class. Even if he has always had the potential to knock all of them out and lead the class by a large margin. . . What about the competitive factors. . ?
His Class mates may have become more skilful at defending knock-outs. .
They may have built bigger bodies with stiffer resistance to being knocked out.
The student in question may have been weakened from constantly knocking students out. . . Maybe slightly older. . . Maybe out of form. . . Maybe facing domestic issues.

All sorts of external factors out of the control of the student. How dare you compare that with a Student who writes his own glory on a piece of paper. . ?
How daft. . .

In the analogy I gave above, the student would be considered to have given it his best shot. Whether you argue from here to Saturn.



And don't give me that crap of every top four side not giving it their all . . .
How about a decent appreciation of the smaller teams becoming stronger. . . ?

I don't blame you becos all you concentrate on is the top four and we "it's our right to roll over small teams" . . . Go to the bottom of the table and see what is happening there. . .except Portsmouth who may be deducted 9 points for going into administration, all teams from Bolton in 13th position downward are in danger of relegation. . . If I am right about the stats, they say it's the tightest race in about 12 seasons. Is that the fault of the big four not giving it their all as well. . ?

Teams below have gotten better and nothing the big four can do about it. . If you like call it what you like . . .
Please point to me one season where "conceding cheap goals that sometimes cost us 2 or 3 pts that could easily have been avoided" never happened. . . . Just one season please. . . . and I will respond with[i] "We probably didn't give it our best shot in that season then"[/i] even though we topped the table and won the league. . .


Absolute crap from top to bottom. . .

nateevs,

Too bad i'm using a mobile, can't write much.

Please how many games have we played this season that we can call excellent?
Our home game against Everton was a disgrace, against Villa and City, same.

3 wins in our last 13 away games is a shame for wannabe champions.

Just before you crucify me, remember my username is BLUEdiva. I love my club but we've been just average.
We all thought CR7 absence will be an advantage for us, alas it  made no difference.

BlueDiva:

nateevs,

Too bad i'm using a mobile, can't write much.

Please how many games have we played this season that we can call excellent?
Our home game against Everton was a disgrace, against Villa and City, same.

3 wins in 12 away games is a shame for wannabe champions.

Just before you crucify me, remember my username is BLUEdiva. I love my club but we've been just average.
We all thought CR7 absence will be an advantage to us, alas it  made no difference.

Are you minding that fool called Nateevs, I should have known better than to waste my valuable time trying to debate with his a$$

Jalether
nateevs has taken you to the cleaners and thats all you have to say for yourself? You are "not giving it your best shot"
to put it bluntly, you are a disgrace!

Aw common guys, it's just a harmless debate.

Let's put haters in the form of gaynners and scummies to shame.

BlueDiva:

nateevs,

Too bad i'm using a mobile, can't write much.

Please how many games have we played this season that we can call excellent?
Our home game against Everton was a disgrace, against Villa and City, same.

3 wins in 12 away games is a shame for wannabe champions.

Just before you crucify me, remember my username is BLUEdiva. I love my club but we've been just average.
We all thought CR7 absence will be an advantage to us, alas it  made no difference.

You are talking about this from memory. . .
Co-incidentally, I just watched our matches against Villa and Everton again. I had them recorded from CTV. . .
Those were two of the best games we played all season. . . Go and watch them again. . .
We made two simple mistakes in each of those games. . . and we conceded from set-pieces. . . Simple!
Everything else was right. . . If you talking about matches when we was piss poor, you have to look at City away, Hull away, Portsmouth Home, West Ham away. . .
Two games against Arsenal - Excellent. . . Burnley excellent. Spurs fantastic. Liverpool Superb.

Go back and watch these matches. . . . that's how I while away 90minutes when I am less busy. I must have watched every of our games like 3 times each so I know what I am talking about.


What you guys are talking about is a myth. . , There's no rule that says a team that wins the PL should walk over other teams. . . home and away.
How have ManU and Arsenal preformed season long. . . They have been piss poor as well. . . but will they grab the PL in a flash, you bet they will.

Look, I am not arguing that we have not been poor in some games neither am I saying we've not been average. . but have we given everything our best under the circumstances? You bloody damn right we have.

I don't know what you guys expected from all of the players. . . many of them are average anyway. . . When I talk about the players, y'all say I am chatting bullsh.it . . Now y'all saying they haven't done their best.

If you give the opportunity to shake the team, only Cech, Terry, Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Ashley, Essien and Anelka I will keep every other player of the 22 is crap and average. . . and you are expecting the best. . . Ballack is 33 and he plays 90mins 2ce every week and you expect him to stunning everytime . . . How does that happen. . ?

As for me considering all the factors, they all have given it their best shot. . . They can't do more.

That's not to say they still can't win a treble. . .

Thank you Nateevs . . . i'm all yours!

ritchboy:

Jalether
nateevs has taken you to the cleaners and thats all you have to say for yourself? You are "not giving it your best shot"
to put it bluntly, you are a disgrace!

Take who to the cleaners, Dude if you are looking to start some sh1t up in here, I'm sorry to disappoint you, I simply make my point and

dip out. I  do not go back and forth with meaningless debates. that's not me (of course unless when I'm just playing around and doing it for fun sake)

Blue diva just summarized everything. "3 wins in our last 13 away games is a shame for wannabe champions". I'm out

jalether:

Are you minding that fool called Nateevs, I should have known better than to waste my valuable time trying to debate with his a$$

So I put you in your place and shred your analogy to pieces and that's what you can come up with. . . Calling Nateevs a fool don't move him a bit.
You can't deal with anything. That's your problem . . . You can't deal with criticism, you can't deal with losses. . You can't deal with dropping points and you can't deal with a dip in form. . .

If your team puts together a decent away run, it's bonus. . . as far as I am concerned winning the PL is the ultimate for me. . . whether with 1 point or goals difference. . . in fact the less points in the leading race, the more interesting finish we get.

If you like when we win the PL, write a letter to Roman to hand it to the second as we didn't give it our best shot. . . . 3 wins out of 12 away games, so bloody what. . . This is now. Deal with it and stop whining. . .

nateevs,

Isn't it illogical to expect a treble from old, average players?

Arsenal and Utd have had it far worse injury and star player wise than Chelski - hence Chelski has been able to hold on to the top place for so long.

Unfortunately for them, their rivals are coming into form while Chelski appears to be dithering and is still involved in one more competition compared to their rivals - one of which has already won a trophy and will be immensely confident about the run-in.

While you might have 'shredded' Jalether's analogy but there still is some relevance there - when you have performed lower than your abilities, you can be said to have underperformed, even if you defeat your contemporaries.

nateevs:

So I put you in your place and shred your analogy to pieces and that's what you can come up with. . . Calling Nateevs a fool don't move him a bit.
You can't deal with anything. That's your problem . . . You can't deal with criticism, you can't deal with losses. . You can't deal with dropping points and you can't deal with a dip in form. . .

If your team puts together a decent away run, it's bonus. . . as far as I am concerned winning the PL is the ultimate for me. . . whether with 1 point or goals difference. . . in fact the less points in the leading race, the more interesting finish we get.

If you like when we win the PL, write a letter to Roman to hand it to the second as we didn't give it our best shot. . . . 3 wins out of 12 away games, so bloody what. . . This is now. Deal with it and stop whining. . .

The Irony of it all is, you are the one that becomes all sensitive whenever anyone attempts to criticize Chelsea or Ancelotti's tactics.

One thing is for sure, I'm not a bootlicker and when we f u c k up , I'm speaking my mind and I don't give a damn what you or anyone thinks, so get used to it

Oh I forgot, I have been conversing with Mr Chelsea himself,who can see no reason to criticize the club, Chelsea can do no wrong.

BlueDiva:

nateevs,

Isn't it illogical to expect a treble from old, average players?

Isn't it illogical for Wenger to think he can win the PL and CL with kids?
Isn't it illogical for Fergie to think he can sell the footballer of the year and still win the PL and CL ? Considering they only won the league with 4pts. . .


Many things are illogical darling . . . . Possibility it the key. . . and that's what spurs belief. . .

Mayhem. Complete mayhem, Absolute mayhem, Undiluted mayhem on the chavs thread.

More. pls

Good answer nateevs.
If it's illogical then what you're showing is called FAITH. We are talking reality,'u're talking faith.

Realistically, we have a 5 in 10 chance of winning the epl.
8 in 10 chance of retaining the FA and 2 in 10 chance of winning the UCL.
Call it the rantings of a woman, i'll call it female intuition,

jalether:

The Irony of it all is, you are the one that becomes all sensitive whenever anyone attempts to criticize Chelsea or Ancelotti's tactics.

One thing is for sure, I'm not a bootlicker and when we f u c k up , I'm speaking my mind and I don't give a damn what you or anyone thinks, so get used to it

Oh I forgot, I have been conversing with Mr Chelsea himself,who can see no reason to criticize the club, Chelsea can do no wrong.

Hahaha Mr Bean! . . .

I am the only one in here who has the balls to criticize all the players from head to toe. . . Season after season. . . So all that talk is gone with the wind. .
I call the players average at best and Ibime and I have lengthy arguments about that issue. . . .

I am not sensitive when anyone criticizes Carllotti tactics. . . We all see tactics from different point of view. . . .
I am sorry if my threshold for tolerance is greater . . . What can I do about it. . . ?

Y'all think someone must be blamed for a loss. . . Players can't dip in form in your yard. . The team has to be winning in style every single game. . .
It is not every time a team drops points they under performed and that is what is so difficult for you to understand. . .  

I can laugh after a loss without calling for everyone to lose their jobs. . . I see a bigger picture. The end matters more to me than the present.


The clubs you envy gave their managers time and space. . . . all we want on this side of the country is roll over small teams. . .

Like I told you, when we win the PL ask us to give it back since we did not give it our best shot. . .

dayokanu:

Mayhem. Complete mayhem, Absolute mayhem, Undiluted mayhem on the chavs thread.

More. pls

DK, sharrap 4 there, you drama queen, go mind your deserted thread

Chei Jalether,

Na you dem abuse like dis, if na me I no go gree. I for don break him head cuss him mama join.

Oya take bottle bust for Nateevs head. He no get crase!!!!

BlueDiva:

Good answer nateevs.
If it's illogical then what you're showing is called FAITH. We are talking reality,'u're talking faith.

Realistically, we have a 5 in 10 chance of winning the epl.
8 in 10 chance of retaining the FA and 2 in 10 chance of winning the UCL.
Call it the rantings of a woman, i'll call it female intuitiin.

What do we all know from the start of the season. . . . ? Do you know from the start that Chelsea won't win. . ? Or that ManU will win. . Or Arsenal?
No you don't . . You don't know anything. . . and I know fully well that's not reality. . . . It's belief, it's faith that we'll be there at the end. . .


Reality you are talking about is trash. . . . Are you telling me that Chelsea winning every game to the end of the season is not possible let alone become reality . . .
Is that only about faith ? . . . Are you saying ManU can't lose against Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool ?
Are you saying Arsenal cannot lose against City, draw Spurs and draw Blackburn ?

Which of these is not possible. . . ? What then is reality . . . ? Reality is after 90mins dear.

And as long as there are a handful of 90mins still to roll on, please allow me the grace to believe in my own kind of reality. . . .


Please tell me the reality . . because the reality I know y'all are talking about is on the back of all the 90mins that have been played. . . Not the forth coming ones.

dayokanu:

Chei Jalether,

Na you dem abuse like dis, if na me I no go gree. I for don break him head cuss him mama join.

Oya take bottle bust for Nateevs head. He no get crase!!!!

This is different from the pillow fight you and edoyad engage in , we can discourse footie without resorting to physical violence around here

This is different from the pillow fight you and edoyad engage in

You wan deny that you and edoyad fight over who would stay on top or who would be the next to slurp? ,

we can discourse footie without resorting to physical violence around here

Chelsea is synonymous to violence. They have on their fanbase 70% of agberos in Naija

Reality, nateevs, is measuring present performance with expected outcome.
Everything is possible in life but you have to have a yardstick for measurment.

BWIN and other bet sites use performance index to determine the chances of a club winning it's league.
It's like saying P'mouth will win the league at the start of the season, yes it is possible but is it realistic?

Based on present form, beating MU and Pool is a tall order esp after winning 3 out of the last 13 away games.
We judge by whats on ground. Faith my man doesn't speak footie language.

BlueDiva:

Reality, nateevs, is measuring present performance with expected outcome.
Everything is possible in life but you have to have a yardstick for measurment.

BWIN and other bet sites use performance index to determine the chances of a club winning it's league.
It's like saying P'mouth will win the league at the start of the season, yes it is possible but is it realistic?

Based on present form, beating MU and Pool is a tall order esp after winning 3 out of the last 13 away games.
We judge by whats on ground. Faith my man doesn't speak footie language.   

Now you are quoting me wrongly. . .
Chelsea beating ManU and Liverpool has got nothing to do with faith . . It's about if we have the quality. . . And we do.
Hoping and believing that Chelsea will win the league with 1 point ahead and a few matches to go is not by any measure comparable to believing Portsmouth will win the league. . . My belief get sense. . .

Is it possible for Chelsea to win their remaining games faith or no faith? . . . Yes is the answer. . .
I am not asking Burnley to beat ManU . . . I am asking for Chelsea to win their games which as a string of events is not improbable  . .

Making a mountain out of this away form thing is doing my head in. . .
I am not having faith over an impossible thing . . . I am only hoping we win all our matches. . .

That, I believe, is a perfectly sane thing to do. . .

@Bluediva

Stop your complaint , i've never understood your point. . .

Nateevs,
Lol. . .at 'belief get sense'

Stick your neck out. . .
Are we qualifying against Inter?
In the deepest part of your heart you think we can beat MU and Pool at their home?