stillwater:

Are you from zimbabwe?

yes i am

ZIM DRILL:

yes i am

Cool . Anyway do Zimbabwean women love Zimbabwean guys? Because they come here and make it seem their guys are errr. . .'ordinary', if a Nigerian dude does as much as say hi to them. Not trying to be insultive.

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Cool . Anyway do Zimbabwean women love Zimbabwean guys? Because they come here and make it seem their guys are errr. . .'ordinary', if a Nigerian dude does as much as say hi to them. Not trying to be insultive.

you aint insulting you just asked a question

so i will respond

on more than average nigerian and zimbabwean we are worlds apart but from both sides we find people crossing over


most zim girls go for nigerians guys becoz they splash money on them and most of these girls are crazy material girls or those who are lazy to work only need to be looked after by man  then a few who date nigerian guys becoz they have been dissapointed by zim guys hence they try something new

stillwater:

Hahaha, I doubt if an SA dude reads this, he will agree with you.
So it has moved from Nigerian women are below par to SA men are not eligible. Eyahhh.

And to the rest above, from the summary of the thread I thought Naija ladies are not that 'open' to sex, so how do we correlate not being open to sex and then you talk of all these escapades in the universities?

I never said Nigerian women are below par. It may come across as that when one reads it with emotional attachment and hormones running haywire.  

I said most Nigerian girls have undesirable attitudes.

In regards to SA guys, they can't deny facts. They are educationally disadvantaged due to apartheid restrictions and it is common knowledge that SA guys complain that Nigerian men steal their jobs and chics.

Read SA section:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11429067

Nigerian women are open to sex in a funny way, they are just mostly rude due to a culture of thinking that is the way of playing hard to get.

^^these generalizations are meant to provoke, no doubt.

do you agree most nigerian men are scammers, 419ers, two timing cheats, drug dealers, kidnappers, armed robbers and violent?

if you dont, then why categorize nigerian women the same way?

are there no females in your family?

all these insults because you saw butt and got south african tata?

check yourself.

tpiah:

^^these generalizations are meant to provoke, no doubt.

do you agree most nigerian men are scammers, 419ers, two timing cheats, drug dealers, kidnappers, armed robbers and violent?

if you dont, then why categorize nigerian women the same way?

are there no females in your family?

all these insults because you saw butt and got south african tata?

check yourself.

What generalisation?

I said most!!!

Most Nigerian girls are rude in comparison to Southie and Eastie Africans. Pure and simple.

It is a fact, it might hurt but it still remains a fact.

British black girls are also RUDE!

It is so bad, my closests friends don't date black for about a decade now. SO BAAAAAAAD that black girls even step to them and they ignore/say no.

Most Nigerian and Black British women have issues with their hard to get displays.

Rotflmbao, I suppose ppl shouldn't have preferences. We all have point of views based on our surroundings and backgrounds. I think if we all follow Maslow we'll be able to put a rest to this thread.

Tpiah,

ode ni e, do you know what ur problem is? U love twisting words like a senseless folk like i said earlier, where did i let u that i have a S.A girlfriend and that i did not have any nigerian girlfriend here?

You have a big problem with ur eyes if you can't still get all what i'm saying since. Just because i'm nigerians then i should back bad attitudes about nigerian girls up? Naw! that can't work for me, why many dislike to hear the truth?

Lastly, why do you wanna die over another man's problem? If u are jealous about xhosachoc then thats your own's jar or problem, why are u always get mad whenever men are speaking against nigerian ladies? Why don't u try and change too and stop arguing blindly here, madam

ZIM DRILL:

you aint insulting you just asked a question

so i will respond

on more than average nigerian and zimbabwean we are worlds apart but from both sides we find people crossing over


most zim girls go for nigerians guys becoz they splash money on them and most of these girls are crazy material girls or those who are lazy to work only need to be looked after by man  then a few who date nigerian guys becoz they have been dissapointed by zim guys hence they try something new

So calm and collected. Me likey. Anyway I'm so happy a Zimbabwean is aware that a Nigerian man usually uses money to woo women, so when they call Nigerian girls golddiggers, we all know whose fault it is.

Sagamite:

I never said Nigerian women are below par. It may come across as that when one reads it with emotional attachment and hormones running haywire.  

I said most Nigerian girls have undesirable attitudes.

Nope you also added there is no iota of sexiness in them. From your posts Naija women no meet up to your standards, hence they are belowwwwwwww parrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. To you sha.

In regards to SA guys, they can't deny facts. They are educationally disadvantaged due to apartheid restrictions and it is common knowledge that SA guys complain that Nigerian men steal their jobs and chics.

Read SA section:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11429067

Nigerian women are open to sex in a funny way, they are just mostly rude due to a culture of thinking that is the way of playing hard to get.

Now it's in a funny way, hahahaha, then you were ranting Naija girls are frigid. Bite me.
Nope they are rude because of the manner of approach you guys adopt.
You tell a guy you don't want, but the typical naija guy would want to hang on your neck.
Maybe SA women like that kind of wooing.

stillwater:

Nope you also added there is no iota of sexiness in them. From your posts Naija women no meet up to your standards, hence they are belowwwwwwww parrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. To you sha.

Me? Say Naija girls have no iota of sexiness? 

Can you show me where?

This girl, I take libel seriously. I will sue you for your legs. 

There are several that meet my standards, I am just a guy that pulls back too quickly and sharply if I don't see signs of interest or I feel someone is being disrespectful. No be by force! I am not a beggar, I am a choser, I have choices. And I am not a giddy head like some Nigerian men. 

Also, I don't adore a girl just because she is one, she has to prove she is adorable then I start.

stillwater:

Now it's in a funny way, hahahaha, then you were ranting Naija girls are frigid. Bite me.
Nope they are rude because of the manner of approach you guys adopt.

You tell a guy you don't want, but the typical naija guy would want to hang on your neck.
Maybe SA women like that kind of wooing.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-403381.224.html#msg6806636

Only a shyt head would apply the same approach she uses for shyt heads for every guy. 

I have met Southie chics that are not interested and they are very civil with it, not respond like some omo alata of Alalubosa bus stop at Idi Araba.

I have also met Naija girls that have done the same but the ratio is way too low and the SA way so high that a rude one is almost non-existent.

stillwater:

So calm and collected. Me likey. Anyway I'm so happy a Zimbabwean is aware that a Nigerian man usually uses money to woo women, so when they call Nigerian girls golddiggers, we all know whose fault it is.

i mentioned that long back nigerian women are a product of their environment, i.e it is their men who made them that way

lol

Tosinville:

Tpiah,

ode ni e, do you know what your problem is? U love twisting words like a senseless folk like i said earlier, where did i let u that i have a S.A girlfriend and that i did not have any nigerian girlfriend here?

You have a big problem with your eyes if you can't still get all what i'm saying since. Just because i'm nigerians then i should back bad attitudes about nigerian girls up? Naw! that can't work for me, why many dislike to hear the truth?

Lastly, why do you wanna die over another man's problem? If u are jealous about xhosachoc then thats your own's jar or problem, why are u always get mad whenever men are speaking against nigerian ladies? Why don't u try and change too and stop arguing blindly here, madam

egbami see this fellow insulting me over one unpronounceable name. Xerxes or chicken or something like that.

e be like say dem don take bath water prepare your food sha!

na im dey make you act like a senseless person, no offence. There are some men who literally exchange their brains for women's tata and you act like you're one of them.

your case needs serious intervention oh.

either that or you should be left to wander in the desert till God has mercy on you and restores your senses.

i asked before- is it ok for nigerian men to be categorized as azzholes, scammers, two timing cheats, drug dealers and unreliable losers?

if it's fine with you, then dont get huffy next time you hear that description!

most of these girls are crazy material girls or those who are lazy to work only need to be looked after by man then a few who date nigerian guys becoz they have been dissapointed by zim guys hence they try something new

i see where the fatal attraction is coming from then.

they have so much in common with the nigerian men in question.

they bring out their [the guys' ] female side.

tpiah:




i see where the fatal attraction is coming from then.

they have so much in common with the nigerian men in question.

they bring out their [the guys' ] female side.

you nailed it

^^^This one is as stup1d as those ones men called the rude ones in nigeria, she's simply the defination of one of the rude scum here in nigeria lol

I'm wondering whats bugging her now? Who's frustrating her life now? She doesn't wants to be generalize among nigerian ladies but with the way she speaks shows she's absolutely rude and one of the golddiggers guys are talking about. I laugh lmao!

Sagamite:

What generalisation?

I said most!!!

Most Nigerian girls are rude in comparison to Southie and Eastie Africans. Pure and simple.

It is a fact, it might hurt but it still remains a fact.

British black girls are also RUDE!

It is so bad, my closests friends don't date black for about a decade now. SO BAAAAAAAD that black girls even step to them and they ignore/say no.

Most Nigerian and Black British women have issues with their hard to get displays.

from my history i would say

nigerians/ jamaicans &  black british (jamaica descent & nigerian descent ), genes wise are the same hence am not surprised with their attitudes

most slaves came from west african, so more or less the same people

Tosinville:

^^^This one is as stup1d as those ones men called the rude ones in nigeria, she's simply the defination of one of the rude scum here in nigeria lol

I'm wondering whats bugging her now? Who's frustrating her life now? She doesn't wants to be generalize among nigerian ladies but with the way she speaks shows she's absolutely rude and one of the golddiggers guys are talking about. I laugh lmao!

if you want to see rude, just try addressing south african women the same way you're addressing nigerian girls on this thread.

see if xantychicken or what's her name and her friend wont roast your behind?

go ahead- i dare you.

after going gaga over their butt, and tagged on your ear as "property of south africa", see if you can start yarning the kind of rubbish you feel free to yarn while drunk, about nigerian females, on south african women and see if your SA booty calls wont tear you apart.

you think its everybody who is easygoing like nigerian females?



of course now that i've mentioned it, na so so pretend your flames go pretend.

check the thread from the beginning and tell me what you see, if dem never blindfold your eyes yet. Or if the gag order on your brain hasnt affected your reading skills.

Tosin you havent answered my questions yet? you keep addressing other issues in your uusual naive way but is yet to answer simple questions I asked you.

2ndly like Tpia said men use their money to woo women and has never been a big deal when they pay off their mistress' school fees. The so called ritualists could spend millions of dollars on their gfs cos they know what they r going get out of her is going to be double the price. If SA women feel the men spend alot on them cos they are so inlove with them, then they should check get their heads checked. Little wonder even the SA women here in australia reckon that nigerian women are very smart.

It is not a crime for a single gurl to have an affair with a married man but it is a crime fora married woman to do the clubs. You are a hypocrite

That said , answer my questions please, you dont even have an answer to the question and if you really dont have an answer then you do not know what you r talking about and aint making an iota of sense here.

Sagamite:

Me? Say Naija girls have no iota of sexiness?  

Can you show me where?

This girl, I take libel seriously. I will sue you for your legs.  

There are several that meet my standards, I am just a guy that pulls back too quickly and sharply if I don't see signs of interest or I feel someone is being disrespectful. No be by force! I am not a beggar, I am a choser, I have choices. And I am not a giddy head like some Nigerian men.  

Libel? Who cares!!! Sue me. *Crosses legs in total disregard*.   Let me even go further. You even said we cannot dress, cannot roll our waists well, cannot dance, cannot kiss, cannot cook. . . Is that slanderous enough for you? Bite me!!!

Nope several don't meet your standards, if they did there would be a balance in your analysis. There are more negatives listed here than positives. Infact you have not said anything positive about the naija woman. You have blacklisted, butchered and massacred the naija woman. How more libelous can I sound?

Also, I don't adore a girl just because she is one, she has to prove she is adorable then I start.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-403381.224.html#msg6806636

[b]Only a shyt head would apply the same approach she uses for shyt heads for every guy.  [/b]I have met Southie chics that are not interested and they are very civil with it, not respond like some omo alata of Alalubosa bus stop at Idi Araba.

I have also met Naija girls that have done the same but the ratio is way too low and the SA way so high that a rude one is almost non-existent.

I seriously doubt she would be rude to a guy she likes. Besides stop asking teenagers out that know nothing than to be rude. Baba agba.

Sagamite:
Some of you make me laugh when you come up with this delusional opinions.

Only God knows how many Nigerian guys based in UK/USA clamp up to 8 Naija girls in the normal 2/3 weeks holiday in Nigeria.

Is it University of Cape Town that every friday some 40-something or even 60-something year old man drives an exotic car into the university compound and leave with a bevy of chics? The same chics that now become the "happening, gbogbo" big girls on campus that most other girls envy because of the material possessions.

It is so scary that some Naija guys have trepidations do date girls that attended university in Nigeria as they are not sure of her history and records with Aristos.

And hinduism you got it wrong. There is actually a shortage of eligible men in SA, hence the SA guys have more power and abuse it. Apartheid has produced a generation of men that most are not educationally well developed. The girls prefer Nigerian guys because the Nigerians (believe it or not) do treat them with more respect that the SA guys. The problem is the lying and pretending of these Nigerians

Dearest Vitamin S for Sagamite my babydada, the two ladies you addressed this post of yours to are not Naija so i bet 100% of everything you said to have a dig at naija women is moot and prolly sounds greek to them Pele, remind me to help you massage away the smarting throbbing pain of the iso when you get home tonight

ewo e leyi Too late me and saga just finish night vigil and about to start a new one. The last massage you give am made him end up with twisted balls.

Jenny and Busybody's fights make me laugh.

stillwater:

Libel? Who cares!!! Sue me. *Crosses legs in total disregard*.   Let me even go further. You even said we cannot dress, cannot roll our waists well, cannot dance, cannot kiss, cannot cook. . . Is that slanderous enough for you? Bite me!!!

Expect contact from my lawyers soon. 

stillwater:

Nope several don't meet your standards, if they did there would be a balance in your analysis. There are more negatives listed here than positives. Infact you have not said anything positive about the naija woman. You have blacklisted, butchered and massacred the naija woman. How more libelous can I sound?

More libel!

All I have said is that they are rude when they are chatted up and are not interested. Apart from that they are OK.

I have never said they are not attractive. I dare not say that, my soldier will say "what da F are you talking about? Me and you have seen several that makes me want to pop out". To me they are attractive and once you get pass the uncouth shakara they are actually good to get along with.

I just have a pet hate for unreasonable fronting. Actually scrap that, I have deep, sick hate for fronting. 

I normally rarely chase girls (as in chase), I will not lie to you, I like it smooth. I am not the kind of guy that enjoys the so-called "thrill of the chase", I hate it. I hate it with a passion hence I don't engage in it. I get no joy or satisfaction from it. ALL of the girls I have dated have been girls that I clicked with at the word GO.

Maybe it is:

- I approach them and they just flow (they give me 3 As: Approachable, Available and Agreeable)

- They told someone they like me (believe me, miracles do happen without a Nigerian power pastor there  )

- I spot they like me when in a social setting because they are too amateur in hiding it and over give the hints 

All the girls I have dated fall into that category. They give me the hint and I take it from there. If a girl is not interested, I waka dey go my own. I wouldn't let any girl come and drag me on the floor.

If her rudeness bite me hard enough, I might just continue chasing with demonic motives and malice on my mind.

And the 2 girls I have met and the highest respect for in regards to wifey manners have been 2 Naija girls. I always say how wonderful they are.

A lot of Naija girls are good at playing the wifey role. Even your big-mouthed self  that I thought would be slapping your husband and telling him to frog jump across the yard when he misyarns surprised me the time you posted that you will be different/submissive in marriage, that you don't want hassles at home.

Conversation and cooking are normally very good.

stillwater:

I seriously doubt she would be rude to a guy she likes. Besides stop asking teenagers out that know nothing than to be rude. Baba agba.

Abi o. 

I don suffer from the hands of Ibkaye and her friends. 

But, honestly, it is not excusable to justify that a chic should be rude because she does not like a guy.

In my books, she can only be rude if the guy does not get a "No is a No" after the umpteenth time.

Busy_body:


Dearest Vitamin S for Sagamite my babydada, the two ladies you addressed this post of yours to are not Naija so i bet 100% of everything you said to have a dig at naija women is moot and prolly sounds greek to them Pele, remind me to help you massage away the smarting throbbing pain of the iso when you get home tonight

That special massage?

Ah, mo game baje baje.

jennykadry:

ewo e leyi Too late me and saga just finish night vigil and about to start a new one. The last massage you give am made him end up with twisted balls.

After Night vigil, the next thing na holy fire.

[Says to self: Saga, sha'na see kini yen bi champion (Saga, fire that thing like a champion)]

But, honestly, it is not excusable to justify that a chic should be rude because she does not like a guy.

why not try asking those guys who havent had the same experience as you, what you're doing wrong.

could be your approach maybe.

possibly you feel you're doing the girls a favour?

most nigerian girls can spot a faker a mile off. Cant say the same for non-naijas.

tpiah:

why not try asking those guys who havent had the same experience as you, what you're doing wrong.

could be your approach maybe.

possibly you feel you're doing the girls a favour?

most nigerian girls can spot a faker a mile off. Cant say the same for non-naijas.

I have rarely seen a guy, talkless of guys, that have not experienced it.

It is so rampant, it is common knowledge and experience. So it is not about my approach or style, it is issues the other side has to deal with. Surely there can not be something so crazily annoying in saying hi to people.  There is nothing classy about being rude to people because they tried to woo you.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-332296.64.html#msg4663658

It is no different from the sweet approach I use for Southie and Eastie African chics and I rarely feel slighted, so it seems I am not the one doing wrong, it is some of these Naija chics that need to go to finishing school in Jo'burg or learn from the other Naija chics that have class.

The innovative approach I have seen someguys use now to avoid Naija chic rudeness, is to only approach them in church and try and claim they want to exchange the words of the Lord with their "sister", which might lead to exchange of other things later where they are screaming to the Lord. In that case, their is a higher chance you will not experience it but I am not religious. 

@SAGA I couldnt pick up you response where you give people a tutorial about South African women, apartheid and their men I mean what an sin assembly of a statement. Anyway have you ever asked yourself why South African men marry South African women only? Ask yourself that. They are very happy and very fine with their pick right at home.

The have the swagger to die for, highly competititve, they are too much aware of their looks and chose to marry late in life mostly in their early to mid thirties, They hold executive positions from their late twenties in international cooporation, having a master degree is not news with them hence they will not find it worth mentioning because the guy you may wish to boast it to may be pushing a multimillion tender as a uni dropout. But that I mean they have so many opportunities that they've realized that making money is not only about spending 7 years in varsity, They can communicate with you on any business level without a degree. Ask Sean Diddy and Donald Trump they'll tell you its possible. I am aware that some people only look up to people in the west, and look down upon africans with the same thinking. I still cant get it but hey!

Anyway my dearie the battle we have with SA men is thier narcissistic way, and boy they are because they know they can and have a lot going for themselves. On the other hand they have a problem with SA girls because no one ever prepared them for the new generation of independent women. We make our own money 9-5 since our employment equity laws that support women empowerment, we build our own houses, buy our own cars,  have children when we want men dont make that decision for us anymore.
T
These guys are finding it hard to deal with AN EMPOWERED SA woman and this has created a huge social crisis in SA. However make no mistake thay would rather put up with that and make do with it than marry any other.

^
SA Lady,

Does this have to do with the fact that SA is multiracial?  ie  i would think that a black SA man who is not satisfied with SA women's attitude have no need to go outside of the country when there are white SA women around.
because I definitely don't buy into the whole SA men worship us and put up with us 100% idea.
Most people who migrate to SA tend to be men (looking for jobs) anyways. This is probably the only thing that gives the SA women a comparative advantage in terms of mating options.

green card too.

ticket to europe.

SA Lady:

Anyway have you ever asked yourself why South African men marry South African women only? Ask yourself that. They are very happy and very fine with their pick right at home.

I really don't know why you are asking me the question bolded.

It has no relevance and baring to my previous statements.

SA Lady:

The have the swagger to die for, highly competititve, they are too much aware of their looks and chose to marry late in life mostly in their early to mid thirties, They hold executive positions from their late twenties in international cooporation, having a master degree is not news with them hence they will not find it worth mentioning because the guy you may wish to boast it to may be pushing a multimillion tender as a uni dropout. But that I mean they have so many opportunities that they've realized that making money is not only about spending 7 years in varsity, They can communicate with you on any business level without a degree. Ask Sean Diddy and Donald Trump they'll tell you its possible. I am aware that some people only look up to people in the west, and look down upon africans with the same thinking. I still cant get it but hey!

Anyway my dearie the battle we have with SA men is thier narcissistic way, and boy they are because they know they can and have a lot going for themselves. On the other hand they have a problem with SA girls because no one ever prepared them for the new generation of independent women. We make our own money 9-5 since our employment equity laws that support women empowerment, we build our own houses, buy our own cars,  have children when we want men dont make that decision for us anymore.
T
These guys are finding it hard to deal with AN EMPOWERED SA woman and this has created a huge social crisis in SA. However make no mistake thay would rather put up with that and make do with it than marry any other.

Sorry sweetie, but my statement still stands.

There might be vast opportunities in abundance for black men in SA due the Black Economic Empowerment (BEE) policy, the educational damage due to apartheid legacy still remains.

Without the BEE, black SA men would not be able to compete and this is reflective in the global environment.

I have worked with, under and seen a lot of SA men in top flight careers in the UK. They are very sharp and intelligent. Unfortunately the are all, without exception, white.

Black SA men due to educational outcome of apartheid can not compete in the global environment. I don't see, have NEVER seen them in top careers in the UK. I never even met any in university (there was a Namibian girl though) or know of any attending the top Unis in UK. There are several Nigerians and Ghanians that I know in top careers and attended top unis.

Even the Mckinsey, Goldman Sachs, Blue chips and other top firms with offices in SA have these offices disproportionately populated by white SAcans, Nigerians and other blacks than with black SA men. These are firms that do not have to necessarily respect BEE so they only select people based on aptitude and educational qualifications.

There are also volumes of Nigerian doctors in SA.

So black SA men may be holding executive positions due to BEE in SA but they really cannot compete in a open market that does not practice BEE (hence globally) due to apartheid legacy that have left them educationally disadvantaged. Hopefully in a few years that would change.