Pastor Kun:

@kodewrita
Obviously you have no clue what theology is really about, I suggest you google it up and do some research on the subject before making vacant assertions and exposing your ignorance on this forum. Theology goes way beyond doing praise and worship and listening to 100 sermons in a day.

kodewrita:

We are not attending Covenant or Bowen or Babcock so we can turn into pastors. We are attending there to become computer scientists, chemists and economists with a Christian outlook on life.

Get that right.

kodewrita:

I attended a Baptist Private university and I believe there's no need to add theology into the curriculum. That is just useless.

You wake up 6 and spend 30 good minutes on praise and worship with ministration. That is also the last thing you do every day.

We are not attending Covenant or Bowen or Babcock so we can turn into pastors. We are attending there to become computer scientists, chemists and economists with a Christian outlook on life.

kodewrita:

Show me the parent that will spend N2 million naira to send his/her son to a private school to learn theology. And convince all readers that covenant,babcock and the others will not be investing poorly in a course that no one wants to study. Have you asked why no private school offers yoruba or english language? or philosophy? or french? or special education?

Simply because the demand does not exist.

Most parents that can afford 2m will spend it neither on french nor on theology.

Pastor Kun:

^^^
You still don't get it do you? No one as stated that people go to any of these schools to study to become pastors[b] (after all rccg and winners chapel pastors don't even study theology and are very poorly trained) [/b]

Pastor Kun:
This is becos rccg and winners chapel are strictly business conglomerates using the name of God to make profit. That aside they both preach a false version of the gospel, training their students in theology would open their eyes and expose the hypocrisy, contradiction and outright lies being taught in these churches and this would be bad for business hence they shy away from teaching theology.

Pastor Kun:
This is becos rccg and winners chapel are strictly business conglomerates using the name of God to make profit. That aside they both preach a false version of the gospel, training their students in theology would open their eyes and expose the hypocrisy, contradiction and outright lies being taught in these churches and this would be bad for business hence they shy away from teaching theology.

kodewrita:

No sensible business man would do that. Religious sentiments aside. Given a choice between funding a new course in a new faculty of engineering or a new course in theology, tell me which sensible person will start with theology when the funds from the new flood of engineers will be more useful to the university long-term.

Obasanjo is clear evidence that training in theology does not remove your baser drives, so your argument is completely baseless.

If you are a jobless theology lecturer, then find one of the many bible colleges around and get a job.

Christian Private universities are for a totally different purpose: Profit for funding the ministry while providing a societal service in a christian atmosphere not creating pastors as you nitwits think.

wordtalk:

@kodewrita,

I understand how you feel in your response to react the way you did. But not everyone who's concerned about this topic should be viewed as a nitwit.

This seems to convince us that you agree to the sentiments already expressed - that the named universities (RUN and CU) are nothing other than profit-making ventures. Such profiteering should not be the driving force of their vision, as it completely undermines the value of their mission statements.

What really makes these universities (RUN and CU) different or stand out from any other university? Please don't even mention 'standards' or 'excellence' - a quick look at the Vision statement of the RUN, for example, tells you so much about their "standards", with typo-errors littering that page. But seriously, what is behind the setting up of these universities - other than . . . profit?

There's no discipline in any establishment that was meant to remove anyone's baser drives. NONE. Obasanjo or any other person is not sufficient excuse for the lack of Theology in these universities set up for profit.

Funny enough, your comment there shows you really don't have a clue about what Theology is as a discipline since you assume it's all about being a 'theology lecturer' -

A Bible College or Seminary is a different thing from a 'University' - let's not kid ourselves here. Some of the institutions set up as Universities by Christian initiatives are not just about throwing 'jobless theology lecturers' into the street - take a look and see what they offer (e.g., California Baptist University; Southwest Baptist University; Vanguard University [by Assemblies of God],, etc).

You just confirmed you don't know what you talking about. The 'private universities' you're defending (such as RUN and CU) may aptly fit those descriptors - spelt simply as "Profit", and qualified by "funding".

But there are a plethora of other Christian private universities who offer research disciplines PLUS theological pursuits. Biola University and Abilene Christian University are just a few among many others.

kodewrita:

Theology may come later. NOT NOW.

wordtalk:

That's fine; at least, it's not 'useless' to have Theology in their curricula as you said earlier.

Statsocial:
Pls do not ever let CU students hear this one. As a Covenant university student I spent more time in the Chapel than in the Library. From weekly services, Sunday services, daily devotion, HBF, FFF, Spiritual Week of Emphasis, Youth Alive, Covenant Hour of Prayer, WHITE etc. Then there are TMC and TTG(Which are mostly Biblical) courses you must do alongside your coursework before being eligible for graduation. I don't think there are any Universities that are as extreme as the Universities you mentioned when it comes to Spirituality(Catholic Schools Included).

The Moment you enroll into CU, Oyedepo would come and reiterate which has already been exposed in the Handbook that Spirituality is more Important than anything else in the University..


Secondly, Theology has nothing much to do with Spirituality-It is just Head Knowledge-Nothing more! There are extreme Muslims that have graduated With PhD in Christian Theology and yet they are only armed with 'weapons' against fighting Christians. Christianity does not have to be as Methodical as you think, you don't have to bag a degree learning theology to have a good relationship with the Holy Spirit!

With the Word of God and the Holy Spirit you are in fact very good to go.
Lalasticlala this is an interesting thread

Statsocial:
. As a Covenant university student I spent more time in the Chapel than in the Library.

sonofluc1fer:
Lol. Plaetton, no surprise.

sonofluc1fer:
Lol. Plaetton, no surprise.

hopefulLandlord:

hahahahaha

Statsocial:
Pls do not ever let CU students hear this one. As a Covenant university student I spent more time in the Chapel than in the Library. From weekly services, Sunday services, daily devotion, HBF, FFF, Spiritual Week of Emphasis, Youth Alive, Covenant Hour of Prayer, WHITE etc. Then there are TMC and TTG(Which are mostly Biblical) courses you must do alongside your coursework before being eligible for graduation. I don't think there are any Universities that are as extreme as the Universities you mentioned when it comes to Spirituality(Catholic Schools Included).

The Moment you enroll into CU, Oyedepo would come and reiterate which has already been exposed in the Handbook that Spirituality is more Important than anything else in the University..


Secondly, Theology has nothing much to do with Spirituality-It is just Head Knowledge-Nothing more! There are extreme Muslims that have graduated With PhD in Christian Theology and yet they are only armed with 'weapons' against fighting Christians. Christianity does not have to be as Methodical as you think, you don't have to bag a degree learning theology to have a good relationship with the Holy Spirit!

With the Word of God and the Holy Spirit you are in fact very good to go.
Lalasticlala this is an interesting thread

sonofluc1fer:

Our brother went to school to study Moses and the Israeli tes. The library was just for assignments and homeworks.

sonofluc1fer:

Lol. Plaetton, no surprise.

Statsocial:

And of Course Lucifer is angry about that.

sonofluc1fer:

Why would he? You've been through hell. You've been properly miseducated. For you, I can only feel pity. Anger is reserved for those who put you through such a system..

Statsocial:

Lol absolutely not. That should be a description for those who passed through your public education system.

sonofluc1fer:

Lol. Plaetton, no surprise.

plaetton:


No surprise at all.

People think I am just being malicious when I say that evangelical Christianity is the greatest toxic and environmental hazard that prevents Africans from seeing the light, from escaping from the fragmented reality that they are in.