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afrodoc2:
The same players that came 2nd under Mourinho suddenly became useless and packed it in the next season and got him sacked by Christmas.
If the season was under a new manager people would have said the new manager was bad and that we should have kept Mourinho.

The same players that went on several weeks winning run under interim manager Ole suddenly went on several weeks losing run under permanent manager Ole. If it had been a different manager that was appointed permanent manager people would have said we should have kept Ole as manager.

The same players that came 2nd under Ole became crap next season and got him sacked by Christmas (despite adding a potential GOUT, a world class defender, and a highly rated talent).
If it was under a new manager people would have said we should have stuck with Ole.

These players are professional coach killers. If you decide to still be deceived by them you are O.Y.O.
And if ten Hag decides to stick with most of them as the core of his team then he too will chop breakfast.

It’s the ideas, styles and flexibility of the manager that matter. Every team goes through a rough patch, and depending on the patience of the fans and board, the manager stays or leaves. There are very few cases of sabotage.

You said these same players are professional coach killers, my question to you is, how many of the current crop played under LVG and Mou. The team has changed overtime but then you guys keep saying that the same players are killing careers of managers. That’s absurd!

Again, things happen, and managers are expected to find ways to improve their teams, or they are sacked. It’s nothing more than that.

Back to Rauf, shey if a manager is good at a particular style, he suppose don win major trophies with the style? This guy has been managing since only God knows when, he has had years to tweak his style, and get his teams to win trophies. Where is the progress? He is just a talkative! It is what it is!

afrodoc2:
I would have given this more credence if it was a totally unknown manager. Or if the players you are talking about did not have a history of suddenly going on prolonged crappy runs out of the blue. Has happened at least 3 times in the past few years ( Mourinho sack season, Ole after permanent appointment, Ole sack season).

In all his clubs he has been able to implement his exciting pressing style. That is, until he met our diva players. I have always followed the Bundesliga closely and this is the first time in almost 2 decades that a Ralf teams is playing such disjointed football.

He might not be a great coach but his history everywhere else suggests he is at least a decent one. It is funny that you are trying to defend the same players that followed up 2nd place with sack for Ole just a few years after following 2nd place with sack for Mourinho. Sacrificing coaches is in these players’ DNA.

Tbh, this guy has got no history. He’s only been touted as grandfather of Ghenghen pressing, which in my opinion, he tried to start it but has not been successful vs Klopp and others. There is a reason he has not won major trophies and he’s not been called to manage a decent team.

I am not defending the players, I just struggle to understand why all the blame is on the players when the manager is the driver of the bus. We have not made any improvement since he came, we are worse off sef. Even things were not this bad under Ole. Of course, there were a few hiccups along the way, but he recovered even though we did not win any trophies.

Rauf is not a good manager, he’s got no history and he is a talkative.

Useless talkative that has not done nothing to the team. The way we play is just so bad, that a relegation team that scored only 8 away goals all season managed to score 2 against us within minutes, and they were going to score more sef.

This is not just about the players, it is not about exposing what Utd have become, it’s about a useless manager that knows nothing!

Leyqute:
Nooooo.

The coach instructed Magwaya to push forward like a fool so that they can use him to do 1-2.

You’re minding nitrogen.

It’s because they don’t understand his system. Different formation, no positioning etc. these guys were better than this under Ole even though it was vibes and insha Allah.

Don’t you wanna ask every match day if these guys train at all? They learn nothing!

Magwaya dey burst ma brain!

Too easy!

Just 1-2 key passes, defence go open yansh yakataaaaaa

Gann:
i don't think so. Bruno's body language has changed, he used to be really pissed when players play like amateurs. even his pressing is more relaxed now. he's probably realized it's not worth it because many others are not on same wavelength.
i believe he trusts the direction the club is willing to take under Ten Hag and will see if promises are put into action after a year or two.

You must be joking. Either he is not ambitious or he is not good enough for other top clubs.

Gann:
when they still have a chance to make the ucl?

Don’t mind him. He keeps saying they’ve downed tools, when we are three points from top 4.

Nawa o

Expert17:
False 9 today, CM tomorrow..

Still, the idiot signed 5 years extension.

He should have used this opportunity to join another serious club.

Bruno is not too ambitious jare. He has not won a spoon since he got here, and he still signed an extension. Ronaldo wey don win everything no go ever do that!

Ole is shyte, but man, this guy is the grandfather of shittyness!

Of course, we were not going to win this game, but it does not make sense to lose like this.

Expert17:
Expected, when you play with shitty players.

He can't kill himself

Bruno has been moved around too much abeg, reason he’s really struggling. Also, it’s 3-4-3 today, 4-2-3-1 tomorrow, 4-4-2 yesterday……….Rauf no sabi anything jare!

TrebleChamp:
United have become a small club to big teams, it wasn't this bad under Ole let's be honest.
#RangnickOut
#EndRangnick
#RangnickMustGo
#EndRangnickCluelessness

We need to be honest with ourselves. This is not agenda driven, we need same energy we had under Ole to condemn this guy. Rauf is not better than the guy Burnley sacked a few weeks ago.

Oasis007:
Gary Neville: "These Manchester United players want the season over so they can hide behind the new manager and blame the old. An excuses culture permeating the whole club."

- Sky

People still quote this guy? A failure that can only run his mouth on TV.

Oasis007:


Ralf is never the Problem except we are simply looking for an excuse to blame Someone again. Ole spent 3 fúckin Years to build the nonsense.

He signed stupid Players, renewed Contracts of Mata, Matic and Co for what? Jez look at Ole's Signings and tell me he knew what he was doing?

Ralf has made it clear that mass clear out is needed. That's the only way out. He would have started playing Academy Boys but he seems hopeful we can make top 4.

Once it's so glaring we can't, trust him to benching those waste modafuckers.

I guess Bruno is also shyte because he was giving us joy before Rauf came to destroy him.

LostMyZeal:
This is the main point.

Ralf doesn't give a shii about trying to improve

Looks like he wants to bare it all out for the world to see how useless our club has become

I am sure he is not capable of improving anything. There is a reason he did not manage any big club before Utd.

See Rashford, that one is a dustbin!

Expert17:
The fact that this same mistake happened against Norwich shows that they didn't work on it in training.

You abandoned 3 man defense since October, then suddenly you picked it up against Liverpool na so e easy ba

This coach is a big joke.

A very big joke. Thank God he’s fuvking off with his American assistant

Nezzjnr:
Abeg who scammed us with that tale of Rangnick teaching Klopp and Tuchel how to coach??

Dem don too scam us for this club oo

This scam too cheap sef. We don suffer

eph12:
I don't understand your point here. Are you trying to say the players are bad and are always chopping?

Sorry, I wanted to reference one of the high profile games that weve lost scandalously under Rauf.

Leyqute:
Na coach tell 2 players to mark one player wey dem no fit stop?

LMAO.

Have you seen how AWB has no ficking idea of his position or purpose on the pitch?

Did they coach tell him to be clueless too?

No be everything he sentiments abeg.

I still maintain my stance. The system is not making sense. Forget about the players for once and ask yourself if the manager is even trying? Has he made any impact? This guy is shyte!

Eph, First leg that the players were ‘interested’, wetin dem chop?

Leyqute:
The 1-2 is working because two of our players are immediately closing down a marker who they can’t stop. And the people marking the guy who started the 1-2 are not smart enough to stop him from moving past them.

No be everything be coach problem.

Why should two players close down a marker? Who gave them that instruction? What kinda playing style is that?

One pass like this, we are in deep shyte!

Expert17:
Another through pass

You sef see am? It does not make any sense. Burnley no go ever play like this against Liverpool.

eph12:
What I see here is a bunch of players that have downed tools. At this point, nobody can correct anything with the midfielders and defenders we have. Then the attackers are not being aggressive enough too

I disagree that the players have downed tools. This is a coaching issue, agree, some of the players are shyte, but this style of play is unacceptable. Also, confidence is low because the grandfather of Ghenghen pressing is almost useless.

Why is it that just 1-2 passes is messing up our midfield and defence?

Grandson Klopp is playing with Grandfather Rauf’s privates.

Damn!

eph12:
They can't sprint, are not aggressive, no motivation. Most of these players shouldn't be here next season if this club is serious. I don't see how worse the younger players will be in our remaining matches

TBH, this is not a well coached side. We are playing 3-4-3 and we still opened yansh yakata. It does not make sense.

Omo, make I no lie, Rauf no sabi anything. He only knows how to talk. See how our yansh just open yakata for that goal!

afrodoc2:
See as this Rangnick dey pieces your board anyhow.

Everybody collect wotowoto.

No be small thing o. I Dey gbadun the guy sha.

Oasis007:
Rangnick on future signings: "There might be a couple of players that independent from style of football or new manager... that could be of interest for a club like Man United.

"I have already named those players to the board".

Lol, this is very key for commercial purposes. We just need one or two of such players though.

The English players in this team are just useless.

Nawa o. Maguire injuring his players since 1901.

Wahala!