European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 7:11pm On Jul 27, 2022 |
Bombblacks: Stop typing in discussion you have little to zero knowledge about. They used 90% of loan money to purchase United and saddled it with debts to the bank. United was debt free before those leaches came into the club, saddled It with debt and took money from it. Since 2005 we have spent almost £704m on interest for the loans taken out by the Glazers. Since the leveraged buy-out we have spent £1.1 bln on financing ( £704m interest, £244m debt repayments and £125m dividends) Averaged £42m in last 5 years. We have spent nearly 1.1billion on the glazers from 2005 till now. 1.1billion taken away from the club that would have gone a long way in developing infrastructure and the squad further. Lol. Tell me banks or lenders that provide 90 percent of debt in an acquisition transaction? If you know what you are saying and you want to be transparent, you would have known or told us that they put in convertibles/PIK loans and equity. Equity was 10 percent, sub debt or PIK loans make up the 90 percent debt. Most times, you are not required to service the PIK loans. They are closer to equity because debt servicing is not mandatory! Okay, back to how much they used to service loans. Yes, they spent 948 million on debt servicing for almost 20 years and spent over 1.5 billion on transfers on a 4 billion enterprise. That’s not bad at all. It shows they are good on the business/financial side of things. Moreso, they only paid dividends of 125 million in the same period. Can you tell me how much that is annually (that goes to them)? Less than 10m per annum. So tell me how they are taking significant money out! What kinda further development do you want? Spend 3 billion on transfers in 20 years? You want us to spend more than what we’ve spent on transfers when we are the highest spender in Europe? That’s prodigality! Honestly, you guys are just naive! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:56pm On Jul 27, 2022 |
ChristoBam: We've probably been the most poorly run club over how many years, but you're asking me if I want to teach them how to run their business.
Point out how many clubs that take out dividends yearly. Do you know the amount of revenue this club has generated in the past years based on the sweat of legends from the Busby babes to the early 90s sucess of SAF to the time of Cantona to the class of 99 e.t.c.
All of the exploits of these guys brought in the crazy amount of success and marketability we enjoy today. That's being exploited by the Glaziers.
But we should be thankfully because they back managers in their first seasons and throw them under the bus later. Oya, what’s the cashflow left after taking care of operating costs? Also, what do you mean by exploits of these guys? Every damn thing has been priced into the value/price they acquired the business. It’s not a big deal. Yes, they can run it better, but it’s not in your place to tell them what to do with their assets. Meanwhile, see below Utd spend since Fergie left. You guys should stop saying that they haven’t/don’t spend, and that they should not take our 10m per annum. It’s their right as owners, if you don’t like it, stop supporting the club, let the value drop to 1 pound, so you can buy and run it the way you want!
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:46pm On Jul 27, 2022 |
Bombblacks: Is it their money they are spending or the money generated by the club? Buy the club and run it. Stop the shyte show. You can’t be telling a business owner how to run the show. Mind you, they used their own money + loan to acquire the club. It’s their capital in the business. If you don’t like it, you guys should raise money and buy from them! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:45pm On Jul 27, 2022 |
So, it’s not normal to take out dividends? This shitty mindset is absolutely unacceptable. Do fans think that money is plucked from trees? How much much are these guys taking out sef annually, it’s nothing.
Yes, they messed up with their transfers, and they have been trying to fix things up ever since Fergie left. It will take some time to get things right, it’s just a cycle. I don’t know what you guys want!
Bunch of entitled suckers! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:38pm On Jul 27, 2022 |
ChristoBam: You think it's normal to take out dividends?
You know how much they bought the club? You know how much they'll make when they finally sell?
Come dey take out money yearly on top of that. These guys are bleeding the club dry and are spending just enough not to cause a massive riot.
If we weren't on a tight budget, we'd have signed both Martinez and Antony for 100m last month. But we wait to agree a deal for FDJ first, so we'll see how much's left. What do you guys want sef? Nawa o! Do you want to teach them how to manage their business? They are spending, infact they’ve spent more than they should have spent in the last decade, yet, you guys are always complaining that they bleed the club and run a tight budget. If you are not happy with them, stop whining, raise money, buy the club from them, run it the way you want, spend 500m annually on transfers etc. I am sick and tired of this entitlement and shitty attitude! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:17pm On Jul 24, 2022*. Modified: 3:53pm On Jul 24, 2022 |
Damn, just watched a video of Utd’s performance last season. Out players were shyte. Bruno, Sancho and Elanga missed lots of seaters with Ronaldo creating some of the chances. Our defenders scored plenty own goals, and I believe Lingard assisted a goal scored by Young Boys against us.
I hope we go get brain this season. Ronaldo is definitely leaving, question is can we rely on Rashford and Martial? No, especially since they’ve performed woefully in the last 2-3 years. We need to sign a striker!
Hoping for the best! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:36pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Omo, Martial fit ball this season o |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 5:20pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
eph12: I have always maintained that we need at least two first team midfielders. Even if we get FDJ, that's just one out of the two we need. If not, it will be a miracle if we make top 4 Eriksen nko? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:21pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: Ten Hag will still need him to do those passes. So when he knows the frequency at which it's acceptable, that's when he's adapted to the system. True. Timing and discipline are very important! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:58am On Jul 15, 2022 |
Leyqute: He still made some risky needless passes that resulted in a counter against United today. Yeah…..he will get used to it (hopefully) very soon. VDB has lost his Ajax form, because he did not feature at all under the clueless one - Ole, so I don’t think he can replace Bruno, except Bruno does not adjust his game. Going to be an interesting season because we can see a path! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:51am On Jul 15, 2022 |
With Maguire at the back, we will always concede through counterattacks. He is too slow! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:49am On Jul 15, 2022 |
Bruno will need some time to get used to ETH football. It’s clear that he won’t be able to do Hollywood stunts. |
Politics › Re: Seplat's Gas Project In The South East Nearing Completion by nitrogen(m): 1:39am On Jul 09, 2022 |
JoeyNaza: LoL you are the one to make research. ABC Orjiako is the highest shareholder in Seplat followed by 2 other Nigerians. You can check Google
Roger Brown is just an employee CEO but likely a stock options shareholder. Stop saying what you don’t know. ABC and his family have just 2% ownership in Seplat. The largest shareholder is a French firm with over 20% ownership. Check their website for more details. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:40pm On Jul 04, 2022 |
ChristoBam: Btwn Ronaldo training at Portugal's training facility. Oga, don’t kill yourself on Ronaldo’s matter. Shuuu! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:35am On Jun 28, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:38pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
melodyogonna: This is a rubbish thought process. They appointed a competent man they can trust to get the job done, the team he supports is a secondary consideration, if it's a consideration at all. Just like the recruitment team I don't see how it's relevant. E shock me too o. We should just start looking for United fans/supporters to take on key roles at Utd, including finding new owners that have been supporting Utd since the club’s inception. Competence in the mud! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:58pm On Jun 01, 2022 |
What’s Finalissima abi na Fatima cup? Abeg, you guys should carry your dick measuring contest away from here. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:52pm On Jun 01, 2022 |
patrickmuf: There's a reason ETH was firm about his terms of the contract for which Manchester United board reluctantly gave in. At this point, if he fails, it's solely on him...
For once, the board has brought in a manager who insisted that things must be done his way...Some folks here are still trying to rope the board in just so they can blame them when things go south.
ETH never sounded like one that appreciates the role RR was designated to take up. The pressers are there for anyone to make reference to so, I don't get why the board is still being roped into all of these... Our board don suffer, chai! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:49pm On Jun 01, 2022 |
Expert17: You gerrit bro  Lol, na him pursue Rauf. If you don’t gerrit, forget about it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:13pm On May 31, 2022 |
melodyogonna: How you take sabi these things? E shock you sef? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:12pm On May 31, 2022 |
odizeey: Why do you feel attacked?
You are mentioning structure like there is none. Murtough is the DOF. The structure you guys are clamouring for is not the way you want it to be.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:36am On May 31, 2022 |
ChristoBam: You just hate the man for no just reason. He should have rejected the offer to Coach a national team to focus on Consultancy? Basically an advisor to the DOF. I don’t hate him, I don’t like him. I don’t think he is who we think he is. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:35am On May 31, 2022 |
Ellexy: It can be full time but his own is not. So everybody who's working at United must be full time employee else it's disrespect to United? Man utd is too big for what he was trying to do. The consultancy thing is almost like a DoF role, else, why did he accept a ‘demotion’ (re: leaving a bigger role at Lokomotiv)? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:28am On May 31, 2022 |
Ellexy: Honestly this Ralf's matter is being overblown, the gentleman's consultancy agreement was suppose to be part time anyway that's why accepted a full time job elsewhere. I'm sure he's given his assessment to ETH, we wish him all the best. Lol, consultancy can be a full time role. It’s not medical line where doctors can consult or do PP. Also, it’s disrespectful to have such an arrangement at a club like man utd. I actually think that Rauf is an opportunist. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:43pm On May 29, 2022 |
@Leyqute, Rauf’s first director role was in 2012. Yes he has experience, but where and what kinda experience? This guy was a director at Red Bull and Lokomotiv Moscow. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:39pm On May 29, 2022 |
Leyqute: So, you believe the best role Ralf Rangnick can fill at Man Utd is as manager?
No wonder you’ve been arguing passionately about this issue for days. No wonder you’re a Man Utd board member. Loool, you saw ‘manager and director’……OYO |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:33pm On May 29, 2022 |
Ellexy: Ten Hag asked if he endorses Rangnick's consultancy role at #mufc: "That is on the club." #mulive This means NO! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:30pm On May 29, 2022 |
Leyqute: We’re saying we need football people in top positions so that ETH can succeed. We’re saying this based on recent history.
You, on the other hand, are saying we don’t really need footballing people in top positions.
It doesn’t translate into wanting ETH to fail.
And I’m asking Postdigger to frame that post before you change your mouth in the future and start attacking ETH for underwhelming performances. So Rauf is the footballing people that we need? Someone that has almost zero success over a 30 year career as a manager and director. Nawa o! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 8:54pm On May 29, 2022 |
Leyqute: Postdigger, please frame this post.
We might revisit it later. Lool, do you want ETH to fail? Because we told RR to fuvk off? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 8:49pm On May 29, 2022 |
CapitalCee: Don't mind him, Rauf, that took over Lokomotiv Moscow and made them worse than he met them. If ETH cannot suceed without the input of Rauf then he is not as good as we thought. Yeah. ETH mad sha, he gave the guy his size. Rauf the talkative wey sabi form familiarity with top managers. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 8:43pm On May 29, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: If ETH cannot tell the board the kind of players he need, he should get the fvck out of United asap. Una don dey arrange excuse down as usual, ETH clearly stated that he will decide what type of players the club signs. If Rafiu was that useful, he would have given the club a list of players to sign by now.... Do you actually believe that Rauf is smart? He is just a talkative. He’s done nothing at Utd, nothing! ETH will succeed here, with or without Rauf, insha allah. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 8:39pm On May 29, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: Rafiu was not at Ajax when Ten Haag achieved all he achieved, he doesn't need Rafiu to succeed at United. Rafiu was to stay on as a consultant as agreed before he joined, yet he accept the Managerial role of Austrian National Team. Exactly. Also, he was desperate to take on the man utd job. Nobody should tell us that we should focus on the consulting bit of the arrangement. He wanted the role badly and even asked for a long term contract. Thank God the board was smart to offer him a six month stint. |