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donstan18:
Ronaldo’s fanatics are shameless and very dull to understand that Ole got sacked because he tried building his team around a sui tappin merchant.

Ole, I tell you, brought some fear factor back to ManU and top4 consistency post Fergie, but because he couldn’t lift a trophy, he was abused. Ronaldo will finish ManU, just like he did to Juventus. He won’t just finish ManU, he’ll destroy those attackers.

Martial will soon be sold, Greenwood and Rashford are getting abused.

All of a sudden, Bruno who carried ManU with amazing G/A is now getting abused.

All because of Ronaldo.

Sorry to say this, but 98.031% of ManU fans here no sabi ball atall. It’s even more pathetic to see them call you Messi-fanboy when you say the bitter truth about Ronaldo.

Ogbeni, go and focus on your thread, club and players. Talk more about Mason Mount and Lukaku. Leave us with our wahala.

Lazy fuvks!

Chelsea and Barca fans are whining these Messi Stan’s so we can lose Ronaldo to the competition. Chai, e go soon clear for una eye.

If to say Ronaldo go City ehn, na safe journey, considering the fact that they don’t have a prolific striker and they are ‘besting’ almost every club in the league (bar Liverpool and maybe Chelsea).

Utd is a club with overpaid, lazy British boys that won’t fight to save their lives, not to talk of saving the club. Meanwhile, please find time to go check what pundits are saying about Greenwood and Rashford.

patrickmuf:
The team's build up play is actually shit...I have seen just 2 forwards pressure our defenders and next they balloon the ball. In midfield it is worse. The attack is the one department that contributes the least to build up play. Ronaldo is not renowned for his build up play as a CF, he has always been that fast wingers with good finishing and skills. All that is expected of Ronaldo is to finish off chances, keep the CBs busy and occasionally assist in the build up play especially when teams are defending deep.

He has tried in scoring the number of goals he has scored thus far taking into consideration the fact that we struggle to create goal scoring chances as a team.

With regards to pressing, he has been excellent, I have seen him put in a shift every time he has played even more than Rashford and Greenwood who are much younger...

As I explained above, his build up play was never going to be great, he has never been the best in tight spaces...

As regards our other attackers, I don't see how he has affected them, Greenwood still shoots whenever he has a chance to shoot even when others are better positioned with or without Ronaldo on the pitch and I feel that's an aspect of his game he needs to improve just so he can be less predictable...I will accept this argument if we have seen our other forwards pass to Ronaldo even when they themselves are in a better position to score but it has not been the case...

I think Ronaldo is rightly demanding too much from our lazy players...They have been so used to performing inconsistently that it's a big problem for them to have someone demand that they bring their A game to the field of play every match day...Let's not forget that whist Rashford posed those good looking stats, he was actually playing trash, even Bruno was guilty of giving the ball away one too many times in a bid to rack up assist. Also, if my memory serves me right, Greenwood struggled to score at some point last season and we didn't have Ronaldo in the team then.

In summary, I think most of our forward players are off form and not necessarily down to the presence of Ronaldo...I also accept that Ronaldo shouldn't be starting every game but then, with the other forwards firing blank, the coach will be stupid to drop Ronaldo at this point.

On point, unbiased! Nice one Patrick

odizeey:
Even a Barca fan was saying it's crazy that a winner is complaining and people are blaming him for the team performance.

This team is full of losers, who are not ready to win. Back line; losers.

Frontline; losers.

Midfield; losers.

Don’t mind them. The losers don’t have anything in their cabinets. Just plastic spoons and cups.

Expert17:
Yh, just like last season

Did you discount the fact the Ole did not win anything, and that we clamoured for a new manager before Ronaldo came, since we all knew that Ole’s was not sustainable?

ChristoBam:
Lol Rashford is not strong? Rashford is strong and pacy. The kind of strength you're looking for from Rashford, you won't get in most pacy players.

Everything you described up there fits Rashford's profile perfectly. He's ready to release the ball to someone in an advantageous position. He had 15 assists last season FGS. He might take the stupid risks once in a while but he can get better with that. Is that not one of the reasons we have a coach like Ragnick.

Rashford is not strong. No dey whine us abeg. Also, he has always been at the receiving end of counterattacks. He does not always set up counterattacks because he either overshoots the ball or try to take on defenders on his own. Meanwhile, Rashford is 24, you think any manager can help him get better? with his stubbornness, nationality, degree (MBE and PhD) and laziness? Abeg abeg!

What about Greenwood sef? No comment?

MRTA7:
Make Ralf no do press conference again?!

I don’t want to hear him speak when he is not on the pitch. He should talk on the pitch. He is trying to tell everyone what they want to hear, to mask his underperformances.

ChristoBam:
Lmao don't come here and overanalyze a phase of gameplay to prove whatever.

Even Chelsea's attack under Mourinho was fluid. Counter attacking sides can be very fluid in attack.

Hahaha, but counterattacks make sense when forwards are ready to release ball to players that are unmarked or at advantageous positions. Counterattack is not when you run horizontally like a slowpoke eventually losing the ball because you are tired or a defender caught up with you. You need 3 vs 2 or 4 vs 2 situations for counterattacks not 1 vs 2. Only way the latter would work is if you are a very strong, pacy and fast forward. Is Rashford and/or Greenwood strong?

Expert17:
This same Nitrogen was asking for Bruno to be benched last season (and this season), even though he was/is leading in all attacking stats both in Manchester United and EPL

Last last, breakfast go reach everybody

No. I was saying that Bruno was too erratic with his passes. Bruno was our best player last season, no one dared to bench him. Ronaldo is our best this season, why do you want to bench him?

ChristoBam:
Both of them are direct. They don't hold up the ball up front, look for a nearby player( that'll skew the final pass) and then make a run. They get the ball and run at the defence with good trickery. Rashford and Shaw got great connection. So also Bissaka and Greenwood. Even Rashford and Bruno. These players can predict their movements.

Cavani is not direct and doesn't do any of those things but his hardwork is one reason I want him up front as Rashford is not in form. Btwn he does the hold up play thing better.

Christobam, you don’t know the meaning of fluidity.

Fluidity is when your system allows nearby players to interchange passes and positions in an unpredicable fashion thereby escaping zonal and man marking traps. Short passes with quick runs and haphazard movements enable fluidity. Go and watch City, prime Barca, etc. Very few players hold the ball for long and make long passes or try to be tricky on the ball, passes become really erratic (within the team) to ensure confusion in the opposition camp.

Rashford and Greenwood won’t give you the above. They are always either running away with the ball or trying to cut and shoot.

Rauf should shut up and do his job jare. Bla bla bla bla, all talk no action.

96forever:
When I said this guy has agenda against the GOAT because of his ties to La Dwarf, them go say I the find trouble. Fluidity kee them there

I am just going to assume that he is not pushing his any agenda. Hopefully, he can clarify his thoughts and comments.

I am including running into traffic, trying to outmuscle stronger defenders, not releasing the ball very quickly when we get the chance for counterattacks etc. Can fluidity be achieved through those? Also, can one player determine/be responsible for team fluidity? What about manager’s style of play?

These are questions that need answers!

ChristoBam:
I'm not putting the blame on Ronaldo. Trolling and whatnot got my arguments moving in a totally different direction. That was not the point.

I strongly believe we cannot have a fluid attack with Ronaldo up front. Like I said, most will disagree. We've got problems with our midfield and our defence. But just talking about our attack now. If we talk about Mctominay and analyze him all day, it doesn't mean he's the problem of the team. The rot is all over the team.

Okay, this makes sense. Quick question, what does Fluidity mean? and how do players like Rashford and Greenwood provide that ‘fluidity’ that you are talking about? Through selfishness (both are culprits), poor positioning (both, with Rashford the main one), perpendicular runs with the ball (Rashford), cut and shoot everytime (Greenwood), laziness (both)?

Tell me!

ChristoBam:
Don't mention any flaw about Ronaldo or you're a Messi Stan.

To me, his flaws are enough for us to try some other partnership up front especially in this Rangnick system. Most might not agree.

I don’t care if you like Messi or Ronaldo. My issue is you saying that we should bench our best forward for some overpampered and under achieving lads. We’ve had these boys for years and no reasonable success has been achieved.

Also, he has his flaws, no doubt, but then no one is saying Ronaldo should play all our games. He is getting old and his legs are tired, but he is still the most hardworking (and Cavani) and prolific among our forwards.

Finally, putting all the blame on Ronaldo is just absurd and unreasonable. He is a striker, and one of 11 players on the pitch, he is not the manager, how is he now dictating our play?

Oh I understand what’s going on here. When we want to hype our favourites, we tell the world to check statistics of the players, but with players you don’t Stan, we should check our overall gameplay and ignore their individual outputs.

I don’t even know how a striker is dictating play from the defence and midfield.

I bow!

Bombblacks:
Continue whatever discussion you are having with others away from my mentions.

Lool. You can’t even back up your assertions. Some of you will just come here and make unreasonable and shitty conclusions. At least try to think deeply about something before you type it here.

Bombblacks:
Have you not been watching our matches.?

Answer the question na! Also, what’s Ronaldo’s position and task on the pitch? Is he the one affecting our defenders’ and midfielders’ games?

patrickmuf:
Nitrogen dey vex...

My brother, the thing no make sense now.

96forever:
That's how they said Lukaku is jambody and all that, saying he is blocking Martial and Rashford.. Fluid football yen yen yen.

Lukaku left and won a league title, fluid football hasn't done anything of note, now its the GOAT that is blocking them, some jokes write themselves.

Yes o. Dem wan kill Lukaku with insults and stuffs because of Rashford and Martial. Lukaku left to win the league in Italy while the lazy dolts are still looking for a spoon to call trophy.

Give us 11 matured men, we will win something. These English boys are fuvkers. Hopefully, Rauf can find a way to relegate dem whiners.

I am tired of this nonsense!

KingTom:
No gree for those boys! Give them hot hot!!

It’s BS now. Ronaldo is the problem. Ronaldo is affecting the defenders, midfielders and wingers play. It’s becoming so stale and dry.

If the young players are not ready to work hard and play with other teammates, they should fuvk off. I don’t care if they have PHDs or they are from the Queens compound!

ChristoBam:
He scored 47 goals mostly at a struggling Juve but how many league goals does he have for us so far?

And please remind me what Bonuci and Buffon said after Ronaldo left.

He's Fvcking 36 years old. WTF is a 36 years old world class player.

How many Man Utd players have the number of league and UCL goals Ronaldo has this season? Infact how many EPL strikers have the number of goals that Ronaldo has this season?

To think that he scored 46 goals at a struggling Juve speaks a lot, don’t you think?

This guy became a ballon winner at age 23 by scoring goals and winning trophies, look at your over pampered idiots with nothing to show for the hundred of thousands of pounds that they get every week.

I’d rather have a team of men that I can replace with another team of men in 2-3 years than some silly young potentials that won’t win jack in 10 years.

BS!

ChristoBam:
If Greenwood doesn't score whenever he gets the chance to play, he gets sent to the bench. That has always been his story since he broke in to the team. Everyone can survive a barren run..Martial almost went a season without scoring and he was starting games. Greenwood blanks for 2-3 games and he gets benched(under Ole) or gets shifted to another position ( Under Rangnick).

I can't believe I'm defending Greenwood but that's the fact. And he'll continue to be like that until he's given equal chances like others.

Greenwood was a starter under Ole. He played 31 games in 2019/20 and 30/31 games in 2020/21 seasons. He has played 15 games this season. Maguire (a regular starter) featured in 34 and 38 games in both seasons respectively.

Meanwhile, Rauf has not even managed 7 games at Utd.

donstan18:
Rashford and Greenwood are quality players.

We’ve watched both before Ronaldo joined ManU.

Rashford recoded 37 G/A last season.

Recorded 34 G/A last two seasons.

Recorded 23 G/A last 3 seasons.

Recorded 23G/A last 4 seasons.

Recorded 18 G/A last 5 seasons.

I dare you to name two EPL players with such improvement and quality for the last 5 seasons.

He was getting better every season until Ronaldo joined ManU. Should I talk about Greenwood? How he was on fire last season, last 2 seasons, last 3 seasons, early this season until that tappin sui merchant joined ManU.

One day, just one day, ManU unreasonable fans will agree that Ronaldo is the problem with ManU attack.

Lol, you don change am again o. Ronaldo was Utd’s problem, now he is the problem with just Man U attack. Did you see how we played way better (vs Aston Villa) without Ronaldo? We became City and prime Barca. It was beautiful to watch!

adebayo201:
He presses like pressing iron.

When it comes to pressing, give to El Matador.

Greenwood and Rashford are very good players. My issue is they’ve regressed because of selfishness and cockiness. Greenwood won’t pass to his teammates upfront because he wants to score crackers. Rashford would prefer to get into traffic or run with the ball without sense. Not like he is big and strong like Antonio or Lukaku for that style of play. I cannot count the number of times Rashford spoilt counterattacks because he wants to outrun and outmuscle defenders.

Both players are also very lazy, Ronaldo and Cavani are better in that aspect. Imagine, 35/36 year old vs 20/24 year old players.

liveLongNprospa:
The one with less goals in a year than Ronaldo?

No now, you’ve forgotten that Cavani works very hard upfront, and does not get injured.

Bunch of MFs.

ChristoBam:
We've seen Greenwood and Cavani combine perfectly well numerous times last season. Maybe not as a front two but there's definitely chemistry there.

Can't say the same for Ronaldo and Greenwood.

Btwn, I don't understand the pairing of two old strikers as the front two. In a system that's meant to be pressing.

Greenwood presses really well, right?

Cavani and Greenwood upfront, but not Ronaldo and Greenwood upfront.

Also, no one wants to talk about how selfish Greenwood is upfront. Infact, it’s becoming a big issue in the squad. Green, Rashford and Sancho are becoming really really selfish. Ffs, check the game against Aston Villa and see how useless and selfish Greenwood and Rashford were in the game.

I don’t care about any young, selfish and useless players. They can fuvk off, for all I care. I don’t Stan stup1d players.

patrickmuf:
Ronaldo doesn't have the pace to play from there...

To be honest, City would have been a better move for him...

Agree with this. You can see people saying he won’t make Pep’s team, same team that wanted to sign him before we hijacked the deal. Man Utd can make a player look bad tbh, if not because this guy has been there and done it many times. We are still in the UCL because of him. But then some are saying that he’s the problem.

If we don’t make top 4, he will leave. There is no time for DNA nonsense and long term brouhaha. He is not a young player.

Android22:
You mean like Douglas Luiz who is currently in Aston Villa? Koulibaly? Frank De Jong? Do you tell yourself things as a coping mechanism or does typing nonsense come effortless to you? He wants a goal scorer? Who outscored Manchester City last season? What about this season without the poacher? Haha. Search for Arteta's opinion on Guardiola and his long time desire to play without a striker. You might learn something. Fictional writing should be for novelists.

Lol. Go and check how City get transfers done under Guardiola. He is heavily involved. They dont impose players on him, he tells them the players to sign.