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afrodoc2:
So if the fans don’t do anything they won’t sack him?

What role did the fans play in him getting the appointment of the interim job in the first place?

Trying to defend this abdication of authority and duty by the Glazers is ridiculous. They don’t have to wait for instructions from the fans. They never did in the past.
And we have been told repeatedly by board members that they don’t even listen to or respond to fans

The fans ensured that Moyes and Mou were booted out.

Also, this case is different, Ole is a club legend backed by many, yes Lampard was sacked by Roman, it’s because that’s Abra’s model, also, there has not been battles between him and the fans in the past.

Man Utd is a complex enterprise.

patrickmuf:
Lol That one na you and nitrogen wahala...

We all know the Glazers call the shot and it is only them who can show Ole the door however, if we fail to make it past the group stage, I expect the vast majority of fans to turn on Ole and that might force the Glazers to act. I think this is what nitroge.n is implying by making reference to the fans...

Thanks. The fans should use the same energy they used for the glazers out protests to chant Ole out. No emotional stuff here.

Don’t be surprised that majority including ex-players and legends still support Ole. If the glazers sack Ole today without some input from the fans, they will be screwed, especially considering the decade long battle between both parties.

afrodoc2:
See the problem is most of you believe it is all or none e.g Amaka is useless means the players are all great and the board and owners are all blameless.
Life is often not like that. Buhari is not the only reason for Nigeria's problems just the same it has been proven that Jonathan was not the only reason for them.

There is often enough blame to share around and you can't tell me that owners who appointed and then extended the appointment of an obviously clueless manager are blameless. Trying to pin the blame on the fans who had no hand in either his initial appointment or the extension is the the apex of hypocrisy.

If the Amaka does not make Top 4 watch the Glazers sack him quickly whether or not there are protests. Making Top 4 is what what moves the Glazers not any yeye protest. You were the one that even confirmed that they are not moved by fans emotions or protests, being rugged billionaires and all. That is why this your call for protest is sounding extremely hypocritical and contradictory.

The Glazers called him from Norway and hired him not the fans. Let them fire him and send him back to Norway as well. They never needed our prompting or approval.

So, we should exclude the fans that are always owners out, thereby putting pressure on the board?

We the fans are stakeholders too, if they continue to do things that affect the club’s management activities, it is definitely fine to blame them. After all, we all benefit directly and indirectly if the club succeeds or fails.

They started it, they should continue and allocate it to all quarters (including Ole’s) accordingly.

afrodoc2:
From early last season I was asking us to get either Tuchel or Nagelsman. Is it that I wanted us to sign them to come and be assistant manager to Amaka or what?

Yet cos I don’t agree with a point of view someone is calling me a hypocrite. So I should leave my job and travel by air for 26hrs to go and protest and give brain to employers that should know what to do already.

Those that are closer to Old Trafford why not go and protest? At least they hate Amaka more than me.
I am sure hand no dey pain anybody here.

Calm down abeg. I am mostly talking about the fans that protest for the wrong things, and those that are in the stadium every match day.

Segedinho:
He is trying to defend his brother...

Naso now, stupid ex players.

TrebleChamp:
Where are those fans who hired a plane to fly the banner

Thanks so much for this. You dey mind Doc? Leave him, I guess he is among them. Hypocrisy at its peak.

See, dem plenty, forget what you are seeing on nairaland, some of them know that Ole is useless, but because he is a legend, they won’t protest. Go to Manchester, they’d rather shout Glazers out than criticize Ole, carrick and fletcher.

It’s mind-blowing.

Trevor012:
Absolutely nothing wrong removing Ronaldo. Lingard was put on because of his excellent work rate to try and apply pressure further up the pitch. We weren’t getting that from Ronaldo. They were all over us and had already equalised. We couldn’t win the ball back. I don't understand how many people can’t grasp the fact that playing with 10 men AND Ronaldo with his defensive work was a key reason why we couldn’t get the ball. If it was Cavani fine but not Ronaldo. Once we went down to 10, this wasn’t a game for a 36 year old who doesn’t press and contribute anything defensively.

Omo, see analysis. I am sure Ole thinks like this guy.

airmark:

These three look disinterested and clueless. For their mind, dem dey strategize. Chai!

Lana1:
Omo. The exuses are worse on twitter.
There are people out there who legit see nothing wrong in how Ole managed that Villareal final.

Thank you. This right here is the major issue. Ole will never do anything wrong. TBH, we (the fans) are also not serious. We are not interested in winning trophies.

Illimitable:
A team that has Pogba, Bruno, Ronaldo, Shaw, Sancho is a weak team?

These pathetic excuses to defend a useless manager is becoming more ridiculous.

Example of fans that are seriously sucking Ole's genitals. Dem plenty o, forget what you see on Nairaland. An average utd fan will never be ole out, because of tradition, history, and Fergie.

afrodoc2:
Why can’t the Glazers finish him?

The fans should protest, Glazers wont do anything until the fans protest against their favs.

afrodoc2:
So the Glazers have been intentionally losing because the fans didn’t allow them?

I thought you said they want to win?

Which kind wahala be this. You are doing this intentionally. You be Okocha?

I am sure you understand my point, we cant be going round and round na, when I am not kingalabi

Oasis007:


E be like Doc no fit sleep again, coz sleep no gree come. Wetin Ole go cause eh...... LMFAO!

Ole has finished everybody. It's so sad.

afrodoc2:
So they kept an incompetent manager in order not to win titles so they could shut fans up?

But I thought you said they wanted to win titles?

Which is it? You are contradicting yourself and confusing the gods.

The glazers are interested in trophies now, but if the fans won't allow them to do their jobs, then it's better to do things that will satisfy them. If the fans want trophies, they should speak up!

afrodoc2:
Why can’t they sack him, get a good manager, win titles and make money?

They won't sack because the fans are happy with Ole and Carrick and others. Looks like a formular that works, anything to reduce Glazers out chants is fine.

afrodoc2:
How are they playing smartness with the fans by keeping an obviously incompetent manager?

Could it be they are not as interested in winning as you misled us to believe?

No ooo, it's because when they were winning trophies, the fans still shouted Glazers out. It was becoming too much, they needed to find a way to shut them up.

afrodoc2:
In other words they are not interested in winning. They just want to make top 4 and make their money, sell and go back to America.

I thought you said they love winning?
Ohhh, only in America.

You are just contradicting yourself all over the place.

That’s what happens when you are supporting the wrong position.

No, if they are not interested in winning trophies, they wont be spending millions every year. I am not contradicting myself. I only mentioned sell and come back to America because you made them look like cowards. They are not, the fans are (by not chanting ole out).

Afrodoc, these guys are so used to Glazers out chants. Since 2005, even though we won lots of trophies, have you forgotten? But I believe they easily respond to anything apart from Glazers out, e.g. Mou out, spend more, etc.

The fans should do Ole out, else, all of us die there!

afrodoc2:
There won’t be any riots if Amaka is sacked.

These your billionaires that were so brave and could withstand SuperLeague riots have suddenly become cowards.

Doc, they are not cowards. The fans are the cowards here, dem Glazers are playing smartness with the fans. After all, they are Americans, they will sell one day and come back to America. The fans are at the receiving end.

afrodoc2:
I thought you said they are billionaires who don’t respond to pressure.

Even the pressure of Super League protests that almost turned into riot you told us it was nothing to them?

So where is this fear coming from to sack an employee?

Well, if it gets too much, you will respond, not because you are afraid, but because too much of 'I dont care' can sometimes make someone look guilty. They made those appointments to reduce the chants.

afrodoc2:
It is not compulsory for fans to protest before a manager is sacked.

The fan base is not even overwhelmingly pro-Amaka so I don’t know what pressure you are talking about.

The people whose job it is to hire and fire should do the needful.

The above is not true.

afrodoc2:
Playing on the fans’ stupidity?

How does that help them the Glazers win the titles you said they do love doing?

Who are the emotional people who can’t move on from ex-players? The fans or the Glazers?

Are you telling it was the fans who recalled Phelan, appointed Carrick, and appointed Fletcher?
Or was it the Glazers?

It's the pressure the fans are putting on the owners. It's too much. The fans should focus on the right quarters, or both. Simple!

Glazers out glazers out, of course, dem owners will find a way to reduce the chants. The reason they are making shitty appointments. To appease irate and irrational fans.

KingAlabi:
One thing is sure, we are finishing the group as the leader, make this post

Finish first and then go on to lose against a shitty club in round 16? Una no dey learn?

Expert17:
Fergie should rest abeg, the coaches he recommended (Moyes and OLE) are not good enough.

We need that Chelsea's sacking model.

Major issue we are facing. Anything related to Fergie and our legends brings sorrow. Yes, they brought us happiness in the past, we must move on to greater things without them.

The Glazers are playing games, there is a reason they gave Carrick and co appointments.

afrodoc2:
First question. How can one protest make them sack him when you with your inside knowledge already convinced us that the Glazers are not moved by protests?

Second question. Why have these great owners Glazers not sacked him but actually gave him an extension?

Well, many people believe that protests work. So, they should make it happen. Also, the Glazers won't sack him until the fans do the needful. They won't go against the majority, emotional people that can't move their legends and ex-players on.

They are playing on the fans' stupidity.

afrodoc2:
Is it that piece of paper that made them sack him?

I thought you said the Glazers are billionaires that don’t respond to fan pressure?

Your calculation is not computing well.

The Glazers can sack him today if they want. They don’t need approval from any of us.

Just trying to tell you that the fans at some point were Mou out. I countered your argument (re: the fans did not protest against Mou and others). We want to see Ole out. just one Ole out in the stadium!

afrodoc2:
The question is simple. Everybody here apart from trolls can see that the man is clueless and should be gone, why did your Glazers extend his contract?

Why have they not sacked him?

You already said the Glazers don’t respond to protests so any protests will be useless anyway. They are not robots controlled by fans. They should just sack him themselves by using their God given brains. Chikena!

Okay, if the Glazers dont care, and if it looks like they won't do anything without the fans pushing them (which is what many people believe is happening), then force them to sack the manager now. One protest would do. But do you know why the fans would rather do Glazers out? because they don't want anyone to touch their anointed. If you had the gut to say Mou out, then you should be able to do Ole out.

Doc, let's be fair here, you and I know that many man utd fans don't think straight. Anything that has to do with Utd ex-players, legends, and Fergie is so dear to their hearts.

It is fucking crazy!

elampiro:
Why did we feature a weak team? Why start Beek? Why must Sancho start instead of Greenwood. Sancho will take a long time to adjust to this team. A red card doesn't mean you park the bus.

Weak team?

Elampiro, you no know ball.

Mrviktor:
We need to improve against teams that choke the midfield

This one still dey speak English, wont be surprised if you are one of the olesexuals in here.

@Afrodoc

afrodoc2:
Who is the person who extended Amaka’s contract?

Who is the person that is happy with making top 4 when the manager is so obviously clueless?

Do fans have to start protesting OleOut before the owners do the needful? Don’t they have their own eyes and their own brain?

How many protests were held before LVG and JM were sacked?

I told you the Glazers won’t sack him as long as he made top 4.

You that claimed that fan’s protests have no effect on what the Glazers do now want fans to waste energy and effort to force the Glazers to do what they should have already done if they had any sense themselves.

Well, not like I care about the protests. I actually don't think it's effective, but if protests should ever happen, they should be done with sense. The number one issue at Utd is Ole. The fans continue to blame the board for our woes and spare Ole because he is a Utd legend. But we have spent lots of money in the last few years with no single trophy. Wait, did the fans not protest against Moyes and Mourinho even though they won spoons, how come they can't protest against Ole?

If it is clear that the Glazers wont sack unless there is some sort of agitation from the fans, and if they want the fans to get really tired before they appoint another manager, then the fans should do the needful.

Mind you, the Glazers like to win trophies, check out their sports business in the US.

GloryIsaac:
There was no need to remove Fred. A team looking for a win shouldn’t be making the sub below.

We started from having both play together to removing Ronaldo for Lingard.