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Expert17:
If we are to count games that Herrera and Pogba played so well.

Herrera beat Pogba hands down.

Herrera beat Pogba hands down? So, why were we reluctant to give him 200k, why did we allow him to leave, but we kept Pogba?

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CapitalCee:
Herrera was voted both by fans and players as the best player in 2016/17. I don't know which state you are asking for. Herrera as average as he is, was still posting great spirited performances for us. Pogba only jogs around in the pitch.

Sorry, 16/17. At least a midfielder will have numbers to show for it, so tell me what Herrera did in 16/17 vs Pogba.

Also, why did the same fans not vote for Ibrahimovic that scored 28 goals and provided 10 assists?

CapitalCee:
Dont mind him, there problem with Bruno is that the guy has exposed the fraud. So all the assists Bruno has been giving was through the penalty spot abi. Of the 9 goals we have scored this season in the EPL Bruno has a hand in 7, he has only scored 2 PKs in that time.
Wait soon they will latch on VDB and ask him to take it simple.

Again, I have no issues with Bruno. I have issues with you because you said that Pogba has not done anything of note since he joined united, like what fuckery is that? Does it even make sense to you?

Nawa o!

CapitalCee:
DDG has won EPL title and was in the EPL team of the season that season. He later proceeded to win Man United player of the season 4 consecutive seasons, we won EPL golden glove with 20 clean sheets a season and was voted in the team of the season 4 consecutive times. DDG is a United legend, Pogba is no where near the class of DDG, so dont sneak in Fraudgba in there like we won't notice. So DDG has done everything of note in United. That we want DDG out of the team doesn't mean anything he dropped form and calling for him to be replaced is not out of place., yes he has been phenomenal this season so far and I am not surprised and I am happy. If Pogba start playing well now we will support him, but it has been 4 years now and he's been rubbish. So dont compare him with DDG.

All the trophies we won with pogba, Rashford straight from the academy, Ibra, Mkhitaryan DDG, Herrera, Fellini and Lingard were all instrumental as well its not a buggy. The season we won those trophies Herrera was the standout player in midfield while Ibra led the attack. So tell me which season Pogba was the best player in United? That's the question you have failed to address in defending the fraud

Can you give me numbers to substantiate all these your yarns? Tell me how Herrera was better than Pogba in the midfield in 16/17, same Herrera that you guys said is an average player.

Omo, your agenda na grade 1 sha

Expert17:
So you think it's just PK Bruno Fernandes contribute to our team

And he won EPL player of the month twice ......so why can't Jorginho win the same award?

I don’t have issues with Bruno, but Capitalcee keeps bringing him into the discussion. Until Bruno does a full season here, before you start any shitty comparison. Imagine comparing Pogba to VDB too.......nawa o

If you continue to say that Pogba has done nothing, then Bruno has also done nothing, because we were third with just 66 points......

odizeey:
Na them experts and capitalc vote Shaw.

Don’t mind them, they said instead of giving it to Paul, we’d rather give it to Shaw. Hahahaha

MRTA7:
I know its just agenda here. I'm not trying to discuss Pogba I dont really care either he stays or goes. But to use Luke Shaw winning the club's player of the year in a season everyone who watched knows he simply wasnt our best player is laughable. Luke Shaw is also one of the worst signings we've made since Fergie Left and is simply not good enough for where we want to be. Hopefully Telles performs and replaces him permanently.

Luke Shaw won a polling booth award when other players were clearly better. That should tell us that the award is shyte!

CapitalCee:
Thats one thing his fans has failed to understand. He has not done anything. That's the reason why they quickly rush to criticise Bruno, because the guy is a clear example of why Jogba is flop and a fraud. He exposed the fraud dablord
They Started with "take it simple" next it was "its only penalties" later it was that Bruno was playing 10 so more assist, he is playing i pogbas position. Very soon they will jump on VDB because that one is looking like a more competent and serious player than the flop.
If pogba has been any good we will not have been managing with Lingard and Perriera since in that no 10 position.

I still don’t get it, what has Bruno done? He scored penalties for man utd and qualified us for the UCL, or Chelsea and LCFC messed up while Man utd continued to be awarded penalties for Bruno to convert. Lol

Expert17:
Pogba can't even win Midfieder of the season award at Old Trafford.

Lol, don’t even start. We all know those awards are shyte. Why did Luke Shaw win the award in 18/19? It’s people like you that hate Pogba that vote now.

Again, fans are fickle. It’s quite unfortunate.

TrebleChamp:
I have been watching Pogba at United since he signed, i am still waiting to see when he will dominate midfield against any team we play against. I don't follow the bandwagon, you can dig up my post to see since when i have been criticizing Pogba game for us. Pogba is a waste of £89m

I said it. You are an 'Up manu' person. You dont watch our games, you do livescore and shout 'up man u' everywhere you go!

CapitalCee:
- player of the season. Eg De gea, Bruno etc.
- Trophies
- Champions league qualifications.
- have a sustained vein of form for at least half a season.


You know what I am saying

Okay, great. Dont tell me that De Gea, who according to you guys drop disasterclass everytime has done something of note at Utd, but Pogba has not.

UCL qualifications, trophies, really? All the trophies that we've won since 2013, Pogba was instrumental (except LVG's FA cup).

A sustained vein of form for at least half a season? haha, you sure you know what you are typing?

Player of the season.......lol, as in Man Utd player of the season? hahahaha, I am done! Polling booth award. Heck, Ander Herrera, the average 'just there' player won it in 16/17. Hernandez won it in 2010/2011........a sub player.

Oga, you have no case, na emotions dey do you like this o.

CapitalCee:
Luke Shaw was the player of the season not Pogba, he even played down the award as nobody deserved any accolade that season, that was the season you were telling me pogba stood out. Pogba did not do anything extraordinary. When we needed him to do something reasonable when we were chasing top 4, he kept dropping disasterclasses on matchday basis.

Same Luke Shaw that you guys are saying that he has been useless since he got to Utd. He has not done half of what he did at Southampton now, you've forgotten?

Same set of people concluded that DeGea is BS, he should be sold.......CapitalCee, you need some bottles of Origin.......

CapitalCee:
No reasonable person will tell Bruno to keep anything simple. Those people are pogba fanboys. Pogba has not done anything of note at the club.its been 4 years now

Okay, let break this down.....what's your definition of 'doing anything of note'? Maybe, your message is not too clear or something.

Also, while you are at it, list players that have done anything of note in the last 4 years at Man Utd.

TrebleChamp:
So the club can get a fee rather than lose him for free, it's that simple na. Same Pogba wey fans dey yab here during Mourinho's time, £89m best player wey no never win player of the month or United player of the year. If we could not unlock him for over 4 seasons in his prime, na when him done 35 we go unlock him talent? If Real Madrid or Juventus no bid for him next season, na to loan am go Lyon make him give better players chance...

How come you want Madrid or Juve to come for him? Wait, why is it that bigger clubs are interested in him sef?

I am done with this discussion abeg. You sure you are not a spambot?........Pogba should be loaned to Lyon?........wow!

adebayo201:
As far as I'm concern, Pogba is not going unless he wants to leave. He might be lazy, showboating, and the rest but he's got his own mark on this team.

Forget shit, he is just the elder brother of Martial in inconsistency. A little consistency in him, he will be on fire. We still need him though. If nobody needs him, Rashford does. Those long passes and outside shots E get them for body.

Dont mind them. I am not even interested in the comparison with Bruno. But why would someone just come and say wat capitacee said. Not fair at all. No one in that team can lace Pogba's boots. He is having it rough right now. Simple!

afrodoc2:
It is not me you need to convince. I have always said Pogba has a more complete skill set than Bruno. However Bruno's application of his skills is better. Pogba is allowing his talents go to waste IMO.

Meanwhile it is just below 30% and not 50%. You should check his highlights pre-United. The guy has more to give.

No vex jare.....I forgot that you be correct person. Not those guys that are not being reasonable with their submissions.

odizeey:
Baba. I'm just tired. I think it's the fee that's the problem. Same with Fred's fee. 50 million. They no won give the guy space.

We know them now. After McTom messes up in two consecutive matches, they will say that OGS should loan him to Westham.

odizeey:
Same Bruno you guys were saying should keep it simple ABI.

Let's stop acting like Pogba has not done something of note in this club. It's unfair. I brought overall 2019 stat. I don't know if that stuff is not credible again.

Men I no really understand.

Dont mind them. New wife don come, they are ready to scatter the house because of that. Pogba na boss, if anyone is not fine with it, that person should fuvk off!

afrodoc2:
Simple. Pogba being an average penalty player will always share duties like he did with Rashford, while Bruno will be undisputed no1 in all but very few teams.

And that's why he is the numbers guy. Penalties should make over 50 percent of his goals. In terms of assists, yes, he has a lot because he plays the number 10 role. Pogba does not even need to play as a 10 before dropping assists and even scoring goals. Check 18/19 Pogba stats.

odizeey:
When I dropped the picture of pogbas 2019 stat, Treblechamp went offline.

Lol, naso dem dey do....they just make conclusions based on their emotions. No facts to support their assertions.

Na dem 'up man u' people be that!

CapitalCee:
I won't bother with any numbers but Pogba was rubbish at penalties and he missed quite a few. When he was our designated PK taker we got a good number of PKs and his success rate was very average. As a Man United fan if you get a crucial PK now who would you prefer to take it? Pogba or Bruno?

OGS is not the only manager that played him at United, Jose got frustrated with him and even called him a virus. Name one single season Pogba has stood out as the stand out player.

What are you smoking now? What about 2018/2019 season? Nawa o

Jose has personal issues with Pogba, so forget the virus thing.....same thing we would see happen between Bruno and OGS if things thong get better!

timay:
Oga , the club activated that one year option, because there is a possibility of getting some money out of him if the likes of Madrid come around .

Why didn't they offer him new contract if the club actually fancied having for more time

United is not going to sell Pogba, trust me!

afrodoc2:
I have to come in here. Bruno is Pogba's oga in penalties.

Pogba 69% success rate at Man Utd and 72% for his career

Bruno 91% success rate at United and 91% for his career.

You are right, but wait, Bruno has played over 30 penalties while pogba only played 18.....na Penalties bruno come play for this world? Geez!

afrodoc2:
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Because he is part of the system and not the foundation. There is pressure on Mbappe, Griezmann to deliver before they think of Pogba. In France nobody is counting his goals and assists. All he needs to do is recycle the ball and give the occasional majestic pass.

Plus he usually has hardworking men like Kante or Matuidi or Nzonzi (all very mobile) to babysit him.

Plus he has a no nonsense coach like Deschamps who will treat his phuck up if he does not play exactly according to instructions.

I agree, but yes, we have hardworkers too. Herrera at some point, Fred, Mctom etc...

Also, Ole needs to stop the sissy thing jare.

KingAlabi:


Him wan turn from this comment like an expert, but there can be only one expert

You people are not nice sha! Chai!

TrebleChamp:
If Pogba played the 10 role well, their won't have been any need to sign Bruno na. Pogba has been playing rubbish for us since we paid £89m to sign, he start with tinting his hair every game just to get notice and was still dropping disaster in those games. £89m was a lot of money to pay for him and he has clearly not shown why United paid that money. He came on before VDB yesterday, yet VDB still outshone him. The club need to get him off the wage bill abeg, na beta money United dey waste on that fraud...

It's clear that you have issues with his fees. Meanwhile, the club has extended his contract by one year, why now?

CapitalCee:
Which Pogba Ibra combo? Nothing special with it. How many assist pogba give Ibra?
The rest you are just picking few matches fir 4 good years. I can also pick matches where Jones and Rojo where unplayable. Our Europa league win was courtesy of winners from Rashford and Mkhitaryan at the later stage and Ibra at early stage. Bruno has not done one year but he handed us CL football on the plate when all hope is gone

My God! Maybe you did not watch Utd at that time. Meanwhile, most of our big games were dominated by players like Pogba, Rashford, Ibra, even Martial.

Again, the streets are unforgiving. It's so sad!

I have a question, why is Pogba effective when playing for France?

Joezinho:
Mourinho. !!!

I believe you. Prove them wrong..

Wahala for who nor like u.

But why? Mou na mad man sha!

eph12:
Fred job is to keep the ball moving. He's not going to give you goals or through balls. What he's going to give you is the energy to keep our midfield on top. I can point to many other midfielders in that role in other top teams. He made a total of 3 shots of which 2 were off targets. Should we look at how many of Bruno's shots were off targets? Before that particular Fred shot, Bruno just hit a shot very high but you didn't say anything. The moment Fred hit his own off target, lamentations started.

Hopefully very soon, you all will appreciate that energy in the midfield. Someone that is available to hassle opponents and try to cut them off. He was dribbled a total of 2 times, Tom once. But you're saying it like he was beaten throughout the game while Tom was winning the balls back. Go and check their ball recovery stats.

I hope OGS puts Fred on the bench till the end of the season so that we can lament over a slow midfield that can't keep up with the opponent pace.

My issue with Utd fans. I just dont know why we like doing this. It's not fair!

CapitalCee:
Odiegwu, that's what we keep hearing from Pogba fan boys. Let him show it if he has it. Bruno is showing it with numbers, commitments, character and team effort. All we keep hearing of pogba is how he is good, show it kwanu on the pitch, whosai. Stop the penalty argument biko, pogba was once our pk taker and he was rubbish in it. Bruno plays PK well hence his designation. The ability to hold your nerve and convert a penalty is also part of being good. Stop making excuses for the expensive flop.

Change system for pogba.
Buy 2 World class CDM for Pogba.
Sack manager for pogba.
Play him 10, play him 6, play him from the left, play him from the right. Play him everywhere.
Figure out his best position.
Unlock pogba.
Remove defensive responsibilities from pogba.
Do everything for pogba, yet pogba doesn't want to do anything for the team.

The same system and players you guys are complaining about since, Bruno came in and won EPL player of the month consecutively and was in the team of the year, and was the club player of the year. yet he is not near pogba in everything.

How many penalties has Pogba taken in the EPL, what is the success rate? Infact, how many penalties were awarded to Utd between 2016 and 2019 vs 19/20 season? Can you back your assertions with numbers/facts?

OGS plays one system, we all know it, and it's aparent that it does not work for Pogba, simple! When OGS was relying on Counter-attacks, who was always the ochestrator. You guys are fickle!

CapitalCee:
Odiegwu, that's what we keep hearing from Pogba fan boys. Let him show it if he has it. Bruno is showing it with numbers, commitments, character and team effort. All we keep hearing of pogba is how he is good, show it kwanu on the pitch, whosai. Stop the penalty argument biko, pogba was once our pk taker and he was rubbish in it. Bruno plays PK well hence his designation. The ability to hold your nerve and convert a penalty is also part of being good. Stop making excuses for the expensive flop.

Change system for pogba.
Buy 2 World class CDM for Pogba.
Sack manager for pogba.
Play him 10, play him 6, play him from the left, play him from the right. Play him everywhere.
Figure out his best position.
Unlock pogba.
Remove defensive responsibilities from pogba.
Do everything for pogba, yet pogba doesn't want to do anything for the team.

The same system and players you guys are complaining about since, Bruno came in and won EPL player of the month consecutively and was in the team of the year, and was the club player of the year. yet he is not near pogba in everything.

Lol, we dey here together.

KingAlabi:
Bruno played 80% of the time in sporting as a 10

Pogba hasn't played that position 40% in his lifetime

And the few times I have seen he played there he didn't drop consistent performance

Really? Fickle fansssssss.