AgentOfAllah:


The threat of hell was the bit that was hardest for me to overcome. That however is the sole point of this threat! Terrorists use the fear of bombs, guns and painful chemical deaths to coerce their victims into submission. Islam uses eternal fire to achieve that same goal. The only reason such a threat exists in the first place is because it is easy to see through the profound bullshit the religion preaches, so threats of pain is required to displace reason. Good ideas usually do not need threats to sell. No one brandishes a gun coercing you to accept that you need to work to put food on your table, so no one should need to threaten you with fire to convince you that kindness is a beneficial thing. However, they sure as hell need the threat of fire to force you to accept that every bullshit attributed to Muhammed, such as how long your dress is, whether or not you use perfumes, how or who you choose to have sex with or whether you shave your eyebrows, is god's will. Can you seriously imagine the creator of the cosmos, a sentient being with infinite intelligence, sitting on its throne, watching you during sex like a voy.eur, proclaiming to itself and its minion angels: "I am proud of the way my servant just had sex, give her one heaven piggy point for good position, and another for doing it with a man"? It's risible!



That's because of the insecurities of the author(s) of the Quran. They knew their bullshit had to be accepted on faith, not reason, so they almost certainly followed every bullshit with the threat of severe punishment as a consequence for seeing through it. If you allow the threats of an abuser force you into submission, then the abuser has already won.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm4GtxOOqeI

Ahhh, Darkmatter, one of My favorite critic...

SIR, YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD IN YOU..

I agree

YOU HAVE THE TRUTH

Yea, We have The Doctufos...

THE PASTOR'S(THOUGH NOT ALL) OF THIS GENERATION IS MISLEADING MANY FROM CHRIST JESUS WHO IS THE GRACE AND POWER OF GOD BY THEIR DEVILISH AND IGNORANT SERMONS

They are all misinformed because they preach the wrong Gospel.. The Doctufos remains the only source of truth..
cc: OtemAtum

butterflylion:


Eeyah "we" can now conclude?

Anyway "we" can also now conclude that you are deliberately feigning ignorance despite being responded to in an ABC manner.

Feigning ignorance?? Heck, there's no sense in ur answer.. Totally ignoring the original question "how you rob God in tithes and offerings", and jumping to "to put God first in your life", and finally landing in "love ur brethren".. Anyways, its ur delusion.. Continue in it

U haven't still addressed the issue.. We can all conclude therefore on this

dalaman:



An alleged all sufficient God begs people for money and says they rob him because they refuse to give him.

dalaman:


Many pastors that speak on behalf of God say that all the time and they say that God told them to say it. Even in the scriptures God still says that people rob him in tithe and offering.

"Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. "But you ask, 'How are we robbing you?' "In tithes and offerings".

I want to know how an all sufficient God will need people to give him anything in the first place.

Epic .. He will na come and start twisting the words, and subsequently end up derailing the thread

0temAtum:
yeah, that's the BOOK OF TRUTH.

To all of Mankind

GoodMuyis:


Calm Down, Dont Rush Wait and See
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Because God deserve it,
Parents have strength of their own yet they sent the children on errand does that make them less a parent?

How does this correlate with the Op?

Martinez19:
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Haha.. Wicked

0temAtum:
Maybe it's amusing. I'm glad you laugh.

Yea... I laugh too.. Ur really amusing

0temAtum:

You've called it perfectly. It's the book which has come to reveal all the supposed Almighty Gods as what they really are and none of them can withstand the power of God within me.

The Energy within you, you meant to say

The Doctofus of Truth...

So butterflylion, still waiting

0temAtum:
by faith?
Itopa once saw this when he saw a glimpse of our time.

Otem sha... Lolz

U guys just had to derail the thread... *sighs*

butterflylion
Its really a nice question tho... Its not entirely senseless as some claim it is... I earnestly await ur answer

butterflylion:


Allow me sir.

My question is valid! Let's say ONLY man has a need for water and putting what we know about evolution aside and man is the only being or thing in nature who holds this need, organisms do not, plants do not but man alone!

How would we have been able to create water for our own survival based on world population?

Also, the process of water creation is very complex and not as simple as you seem to think. This was why I asked that anyone who wishes to contribute needs to first read up on water creation. Water is not simply oxygen and hydrogen (look it up) .

Again my question is based on an earth where we humans are the ones who have this need and also based on the assumption that we did not evolve from water sources yet need it.

Give it another try!

Ok then, going by this, Let's take like this hypothetical example, lets say in the Near Future, about some centuries away. We finally destroy Our Planet with our nukes and weapons and those of Us that survive are on a spacecraft and somehow, We managed to find a planet lush and filled with Plant life (dey may not necessarily be green ) and other extraterrestrial life forms which live and survive without water, (like water isn't a component of their planet as it is in ours, however bearing in mind that all other physical and chemical components should be similar to those of Our home planet).. How would We be able to survive without water?
I would try to give 2 solutions for that scenario...
First off, the extraterrestrial life forms should be able to manufacture organic materials as their source of food or nutrients... If We have something as complex as life, u'll base the chemistry generally on Carbon, Hydrogen, then Oxygen, Nitrogen or Sulphur. In this case, We could be able to extract some of these organic molecules and subject them to chemical reactions such as oxidation or reduction reactions... However, in this case, the amount of the extraterrestrial life would determine the amount of water being produced and it may not be enough for our population...
Case 2 would be a high energy dependent reaction.. It is well known that combustion of hydrogen, even just a little spark, would form some amount of water.. We know from observational astronomy that Stars are composed of many elements or atoms and at a critical time, when these stars begin to manufacture heavy elements in their core, they become unstable and can explode... Now this explosion yields atoms and molecules which are scattered through the galaxy as gas clouds and stuffs like that.. The commonest element in the universe is taken to be hydrogen, then helium, oxygen and nitrogen... Theoretically speaking, We could be able to gather a large amount of these elements (hydrogen and oxygen) maybe in large gas balloons and kind of burn them, we'll be able to get water in a large scale.. However, the reaction is violent so the amount of the would have to be just enough so as not to destroy the planet and some of the life forms... This could also be similar to the way water was formed in our planet... Some school of thought assert that about 2-3 billion years ago, high mass planetary bodies (asteroids) were bombarding the earth and due to their high speed and and the high temperature caused by the bombardment and as they crossed the atmosphere, it would have led to the combustion of hydrogen and oxygen which formed a lot of steam at the time... As time passed, the earth began to cool and water from the steam began to form.. If We could have create such a scenario, maybe through physical, chemical or nuclear means, there would be a possibility of the formation of water for the population... Anyways, its a hypothetical solution.. I await ur own answer to the question.

Let's assume rain does not fall and we never experience evaporation and Condensation and plants do not need water to thrive but humans do.
I guess this should be where the answer lies

Martinez19:
Get a good dictionary and you will understand the meaning of religion then come back and tell me if christianity is a religion or not.

, epic

felixomor:


Your presumption does not qualify as "almost all".....
Considering the fact that Nigeria is even relatively open compared to many other closed nations.

Ok

felixomor:


Sorry that is a wrong presumption.
Even a country like Nigeria supposedly giant of Africa has not yet attained 50% literacy. Let alone power supply, let lone internet coverage.

So your presumption is very very wrong.

That's why I used the term "almost all".. No matter the level of illiteracy, lack of power supply or internet, a huge number of people would have in one way or the other had "access ", be it via a television program, radio program, a text, a print (doesn't always have to be in English ), interaction with a Muslim sef (be it direct or indirect)... Anyone of these would qualify as "access".. Anyways, see it however you want to see it..

felixomor:



Its only a pretender who will try to sweep that bolded statement under the carpet as u have just done.

Please read the @ bolded again,
And read my comment then answer the question again.

Fair enough, there could be a possibility for that happening to those who "don't have access ".. However, I do presume that with our current tech, almost all would "have access ".. I mean, u have, I have, the OP has "access".. We'd still be doomed anyways

felixomor:


What if Allah decides to have mercy on those who sincerely worshipped others who did not have access?

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A very good argument.. However, going by Allah's word, "Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.", there is apparently zero possibility of that happening.. Afterall, the Quran says He is unchanging.. You'd still be doomed anyways

Oh come on.. This has been asked so many times already.. Which of the God's do we believe in then, given that there are over 4000 Gods considered as "Supreme Beings"? What if at the end, you find out that Allah is the true God and u've believed in the wrong one all along?

Samfigo1:
In today's world at large, we have so much practice of atheism. I wouldn't know if the number of atheists increases or decreases...

Atheism has been there for so long, even before Christ. Atheism didn't just start this century or the one before.

The first known atheist is Diagoras of Melos (5th century BC): Ancient Greek poet and sophist known as the Atheist of Milos, who declared that there were no Gods.

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The reasons are as follow:

1. You have nothing to lose
If everybody does not believe there's a supreme being, I'm sure no one can dispute the fact that death is inevitable, everyone would die!

We are sojourners on earth whether you like it or you don't, you will die, I will die someday.
Come to think of it, if I believe that there's God and at the end of our pilgrim journey of earth, it dawned on me that there's no God, will I be purnished for believing in God while on earth? Outright No. I have nothing to lose at the end.

But, if at the end there's a supreme being and you didn't believe on him while on earth, you've gotten to the point of no return, you will lose your body, soul and spirit. That supreme being you found difficult to believe on earth would purnish you which means you're doomed for ever...
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2.) It's a simple task
Just believe! Only believe! It doesn't cost you your life, money, cars, house, fortune name it!
Just believe there's God doesn't change you from being a human being to an animal.

Why do you find it difficult to just believe since it does not cost you material things. What a simple and easy task! Just believe there's a supreme being also known as God!

Shalom