₦airaland Forum

LabDNA:
Forget the stone-hearted bigots, well-meaning Nigerians are voting Igbo presidency in 2023.

MetaPhysical:
Thanks OP.
I always appreciate your lensview. You capture art but neglect technicality in your target.

For instance you listed the stations out of order? They are landmarks, should have been presented in proper order. Very important!

Ebute Meta
Agege
Papalanto
Abeokuta
Ibadan

0monnak0da:

One day we will have an Eboe Head of State. It may well be that just like with the Hebrews(their kindred) who left Egypt not a single one of those who crossed the Red Sea made it to Jericho so also with this generation,time will tell.
My take is that they are filled with so much hate especially for the Yoruba I cannot see that happening for 30 years.

Like I said earlier and at the risk of repetitiveness
check out this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan

To see what they are really like

Alaniyiokorausa:
hahahah yoruba Muslim claiming core north, go and sit down pls from your Monika i know you are a yoruba Muslim, here we call them nyamiri( singular) and nyamurai (plural) so stop denying your people if crisis start now here in kaduna yoruba Muslims from kawo, mando and other Muslims dominated areas will be running down sabo and television for protection stupid two faces idiots.

omenka:
Who is we?


If we* were the deciders, Jonathan would have been reelected or Atiku would have been the president today.

Alaniyiokorausa:
You may want to kill yourself but we Nigerians stand with igbo president come 2023, for biafra we are against them but 2023 we are with igbo presidency yoruba Muslims cam go and die.

0monnak0da:
Well I can assure you that even if you did not know the elders know,historians know and crucially the politicians know. Many of those who voted at the 1998 PDP primaries in Jos are very much around and active.

THERE WAS NO PROSPECT OF THE YORUBA BURNING THE COUNTRY DOWN if Alex Ekwueme had won.

Politicians may be many unprintable things but they are not stupid.

Eboes did not vote for Abiola and they certainly did not support Obasanjo as they now try to pretend.
Perhaps the only time we have had an incumbent opposed within his own party was in 2003 when Ekwueme challenged Obasanjo. This speaks volumes about their attitude to the Yoruba and their political sagacity(??)

Iamgrey5:
You are the one deceiving yourself bruv, or perhaps you don't understand my point.

The news clearly claimed Bukola is in lagos and has only visited Kwara twice since he suffered the lost in the Election.

Bukola as he is fondly called by his colleagues in Lagos was based in Lagos before he joined politics. He has more routes in Yoruba land than he has ever had in the northern Nigeria.

Even the current Governor of Kwara(despite openly associating with Yorubas) has spent more years in the core north than Bukola has ever done.

You can google his history if you doubt me.

Iamgrey5:
Atiku is out of Nigeria

If Atiku is in Nigeria, will he prefer to stay in Lagos or Anambra as against the North?

Iamgrey5:
So Bukola is in lagos not Sokoto or even Abuja


And I thought some people claimed he was a Fulani man

Nowenuse:
Why will you know the reason Yoruba muslims, Kwara & Kogi muslims did not vote for Buhari when people like you cannot see outside religion?
Simple. Yoruba & Igala muslims do not play politics based on religion like northern muslims do. They are mostly progressive people who prefer development over religion, unlike northern muslims who prefer religion over development.
You can see Oyo state that has a slight muslim majority, yet they elected a christian governor.
Yoruba and Igala muslims felt that GEJ will bring them more progress, hence the reason they voted him.



Yoruba & Igala muslims believe tribe comes first before religion and this is the reason why they and their christians can never fight each other based on religion.
They prefer the cultural cohesiveness they share with their fellow christian tribesmen over their religious similarity with the core-north. So they could never accept Sharia. This was the meaning of CULTURAL COHESIVENESS here. Block head.

whatever the case or scenario is, you still havent proofed whether they voted GEJ base on tribe/ethnicity, in fact you ended up contradicting yourself again by saying "Yoruba and Igala muslims felt that GEJ will bring them more progress, hence the reason they voted him" , I thought we were talking about tribe and religion here, why are you diverting to "progress and development now?".. we were debting about religion and tribe, You keep derailing of topic and contradicting yourself

All this pathetic English and grammar your spewing, your yet to indicate or vindicate why Nigerians vote base on tribal sentiment!! Yes, kwarra and kogi voted for GEJ, but u didn't augment your point in support your argument
Your dont have audacity and right to question our decision on whom to elect, after all, platue and other SE states never had a Muslim governor... so what's your point? or is it only wrong when the core north does it?

You said "kwarra & Igala muslims believe tribe comes first before religion", that's another lie... why is it both states never had a Christian governor before, even tho they have contest multiple times since you claim religion is not important?

And mind you, Indonesia is not a sharia country. That country has the most liberal muslim population in Asia and one of the most liberal in the world. Religion is not included in their constitution even though they are 90% muslim.

Indonesians are very proud of their Hindu ancestry and traditions hence their national symbols are Hindu figures. They still celebrate their Hindu values & culture UNLIKE Pakistanis who murdered their own kinsmen in the partition of India. Pakistanis have allowed religion brainwash them and they have become self hating people. Many of them hate and deny their Hindu origins & cultures and claim to be Arab & Persian by origin and descendants of the prophet
Same with Somalis & Sudanese who will tell you they are not black people, rather they are Arabs and descendants of the prophet. Sudanese went as far as eradicating their native tongues in favour of Arabic.

lol. Pakistan had never been Hindu, your clearly delusion and don't know what your saying, its like your desperately trying to distort and forge history to what suits your narrative... Indians are Hindu, who speak Hindi as language and Hinduism as religion, while you have Pakistan who are mostly Punjabi, speak Urdu and practice Islam as their religion..

Pakistan has never claimed to be Arabs, lol I dont know where you got your imaginative facts from, do you actually love fabricating lies to force a point in fact they don't have anything in common with Arabs apart from religion.. their way of life e.g. dressing, music, language, festivals, food e.t.c is miles apart from Arabs!!
https://googleweblight.com/i?u=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ethnic_Groups_by_Region.jpg&hl=en-NG&tg=183&pt=32

Sudan, is an Arab country, established in 1821 by an Egyptian called Ibrahim Pasha, son of Egyptian ruler, Muhammed Ali Pasha... but they still maintained their culture.. what is Sudan native language?

Somalis claiming Arabs!!!!!!! This is a newest level of dumbness and stupidity, ur foolishness is an understatement! Do you actually have an idea who Somalis sre? Please just do a Google search and tell me one thing they share with Arabs apart from religion

you seem to think any country that practices Islam has some sort of cultural cohesion, that is the mistake your making.. You refuse to make your research while you ignorantly keep dwelling in your stupidity

Afghanistan
Pakistan
Malaysia
Maldives
Mauritania

Are all sharia countries, they don't have anything in common culturally with Arabs.. they all have different music, food, dressing, language, festival etc.. so how you say sharia makes you lose you identity/culture beats my imagination

you keep getting your facts wrong, your sounding desperate now.. clinging to straws!

This is a similar stupidity seem among Hausa fulanis today. You people no longer answer your tribal names rather you will see Hamisu Abdulkadir Mustapha & Aisha Mohammed Ibrahim. And to worsen it all many Hausas will argue with you that these islamic names are their native names .
Same Hausas will argue with you that hijab is a part of their culture.
When I was in camp and native Hausa culture dance was performed, many Hausa fulanis were arguing that the dance was not Hausa culture. What a shame!

what do you mean hausa/fulani don't answer their native names!! Hamisu, shaibu,mukhtar, shehu, sanusi, bala, dikko, Mustapha, nabil, najib, buhari, altine, anas, ummi, asmau, saude, luba, rashida, junaidu etc are all native Hausa/fulani names.. and there is similar traditional names adding "u" to an end e.g. Muhammadu, Ahmadu, Nasiru, bilyaminu etc are all local names

Hijab is religion not culture!! God pls help me outta this guys stupidity, are you naturally this dumb or ur just doing it to annoy me.. Before Islam came to the Arabs, they weren't wearing hijab, so hijab is religion not culture!!

So those Hausa were dancing Arab dance Lmao I never knew there is something called Arab dance, talk less of Hausa mimicking them in camp .. most you lie shamelessly to make a point?

Yes Zaria people can send everybody out of their land, just as SK people can. This is the point I am buttressing. Why can't Zaria use their majority status according to you to dictate who lives in Southern Kaduna since they are the majority in the state?
This is just to let you know that sometimes your majority belongs to your pocket.

why will they dictate who resides and stays in SK when they don't have the constitutional power that dictate every indigene has the right to live and reside in any part of the country he/she feels like? .. You can reside but you cant secede!! These are two totally different things

Do you know what is called civil disobedience?
Yes, SK can tell Kaduna state govt to hell with their amenities and state govt salaries. They can form their own tax group and collect taxes from themselves by themselves in order to develop thier land and provide amenities for themselves. Afterall they only get a tiny portion from the state govt's money, yet the same state govt collects their taxes!
If they make a decision like this, can a Hausa man working for the KD state govt tax force go to Zangon Kataf town in the name of collecting tax for the state and come out with his head intact?
This is my point.

civil disobedience can only be done where you are the majority and have the influential power, I'm afraid with your paltry population, your voices and impact might not be felt at all.. You can't form a government in a government, there is only one legitimate recognized government which is headed by the governor of a state, anything else is illegal, null and void
Government agencies are the sole collector of taxes recognized by law, so what do u mean by form a group and be collecting taxes!!

Hahahaha. Who are you to decide and tell other people who to allign with and who not to allign with? You must be a big joker.
Oh, have you not seen enemies fought side by side with each other just to defeat a mutual enemy?
The US & Japan are friends today because they have the same threat (CHINA), but wasn't it the same US who nuked 250,000 Japanese to death some decades ago?
The West & Turkey are friends today because of who? RUSSIA, but it was the same West who ensured the fall of the Ottoman (Turkish) empire some decades ago.
Or is it the husband and wife relationship betwen muslim persecuting China & Islamic terrorism sponsoring Pakistan, just because they have a common threatening neighbour (INDIA)?

Nothing will stop the Igbos, Niger deltans & my people from uniting if we want to, as long as we have a common threat and similar interests.

You need to grow up and get more wisdom.

lol. Your assertion and my rebuttal don't correlate and correspond at all! They are poles apart!! I'm talking about regions in a country that are looking for independence which differ on common grounds and you are here talking about sovereign countries who are totally independent off each other. Lol who cursed

You have a common threat but you don't have similar interest, that's what's hurting your agitation, you will never unit bcoz ur not targeting the same thing

kcmichael:
Aluu umuihuechi road ikwere lga

Nowenuse:
You are very wrong and ignorant.
In 2011 elections and many more past elections, Yoruba & some middlebelt muslims do not allign. GEJ won Kwara & Kogi state in 2011 with a wide margin, while Buhari won all core-northern areas. Now, tell me, how did this happen if all muslims shared same sentiments?

Also, let me bring it to your blockhead!
In 2001 during the Sharia fracas, core-northern leaders urged Yoruba & Middlebelt muslims to enact Sharia law in their states too. What was their response? A big resounding NO!
They told the core-northernerns that cultural cohesiveness matters to them more than religion!
The governors of Nasarawa, Kwara & Kogi by that time were muslims, but did they accept Sharia and allign with the core-north? Only Niger state accepted.
You are a small boy. You know nothing.


And this was the reason I asked you to list the number of muslim majority tribes in that red circle for me but you couldn't.
Most middlebelt + Northeast tribes are either 50/50 or predominantly christian.



Hahaha. Why did Bauchi state muslims not use their majority status to stop Sayawa from sacking and evicting muslims from Tafawa Balewa town?
The christian half of Southern Kaduna today can wake up and decide to eradicate Hausa fulanis and Islam from their part of Kaduna state and the so called Hausa majority cannot do shît about it. They can decide not to pay tax to Kaduna state govt and the state govt cannot do anything about it. So many things they can do.

During the Biafran war of seccession, some Eastern minorities like the Ijaws & Ogonis took the side of Nigeria against their Igbo majority and this aided the quick fall of Biafra.

While some Western minorities on the other hand (the Igbo speaking Aniomas) took the side of Biafra and were helping their fellow Igbos in the eastern region against their Yoruba majority. Had it been Igbos won that war, or even if it was a tie, do you think they will leave the Aniomas behind for Nigeria? Of course they will annex that area.

A breakup of Nigeria can never be a peaceful thing. Referendum is for white people who are civilized. The black man only understands violence. The only African countries to have seceded (South Sudan & Eriterea) gained their independence in war.
This is why I want to ask you, in a situation where the Igbos, Niger deltans and my people unite to fight for secession, do you think Hausa-fulanis can stop us?
As it stands, no yoruba man will shed his blood for one Nigeria.

Let us even ignore a secession war first. See the way IPOB are agitating. If the Niger deltans and my people join them on a massive protest and civil disobedience across 18 states of Nigeria and Abuja, do you think this country can withstand it?
If we form a political party with a common agenda and we elect our political leaders from that party, do you think Nigeria can stop us?

No country in this world with all it's military might can suppress/silence half of it's population. It is impossible.

Staro:
OP, I guess Buhari is a
Fulani too, (not Hausa)

NNEWIsuper:
Buhari was Fulani yesterday and now OP says he's Hausa..maybe tomorrow he will be Afonjaa

GBOKASINCHA:
Who give am queen of the north Waye uba n ta?

Ekpeitit:
These Igbo people no de shame?
Always begging.
Tufiaka.

Andhominem:
Piggiiidddiooottss are just a bunch of pathetic slaves!

Is the 'north' God

Did 'north' make GEJ from minority Ijaw president

Las las, na VP dem go still beg for.

What a shame!!

slimfit1:
When we get there if there is still Nigeria forget any hausa man holding any position.

Pettyprincess:
No doubt the lady is very beautiful!!!
I'm glad she's not underage!!!

Kabir2Mohammad:
An average northerner believe that his tradition is superior to any other tradition that's why imperialism has less impact on them