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Messi actually deserves it, but i feel for Ronaldo sha.

Congrats.

@OP

Your threads and posts on Biafra Movements were not deleted but moved to Ethnic section where they rightly belong by one of the supermods.

Thanks.

^Its Ok Shollypopz, let it rest. Dont show your real "were" please.

afam4eva: Who is an outsider and who's not. So, someone who was born in Lagos or has lived there most of his life is an outsider. So, someone like Shymmex who has never set foot in Nigeria, will come back and automatically not be a stranger because he's an indigene? If the non-indigene Lagosians can be trusted to vote for a governor then trust is not an issue here.

Ok. Like I said you are entitled to your opinion.

afam4eva: My point is that it will happen when it will happen. There's nothing stopping it. Maybe Non-indigenes are not just interested in the whole Lagos politics as been painted. If a Yoruba woman can become a senator on the North then all this ones na just story. Trust or whatever has absolutely nothing to do with it.

So people will willingly vote for someone they don't trust, especially one they consider as an outsider?

Its ok, you are entitled to your opinion.

afam4eva: yes, it might be easier but that does not change the fact that he's in the same quagmire that ever non-indigene is in. Why did he go to Osun to contest despite the fact that he had a good raport with Tinubu after serving as a commisioner in Lagos state. To an outsider who might just see a certain "femi" and conclude that he's a Lagosian because he's Yoruba, to the Lagos indiegene, it's not the same. Aregbesola's lineage can be traced to Osun and unfortunately for him, he can't deny it unlike some people that have ruled Lagos in the past.

You are digressing. The OP talked about a Non Yoruba Governor for Lagos in 2015, Gbawe said it might be feasible in the future I agreed with him and equally said a non Yoruba willing to govern Lagos for the good of it will need to earn the trust of the people over time. You said some were trusted enough to be appointed as part of the cabinet I said appointed as a commissioner is different from being elected as the governor, then you went on about it being same for Non Lagosian-Yoruba and Non Yoruba and I gave you an example of Aregbesola vs Chime/Akpabio wanting to govern Lagos.

What exactly is your point/argument from my 1st post?

afam4eva: Even the title is faulty. People just thinks any Yoruba person can just contest for any position in Lagos just because he's Yoruba. It doesn't work like that in Nigeria. It's as difficult for non-Lagos Yorubas as it is for Igbos, Hausa, Ijaws etc. The only thing they can do is to claim to be a Lagos indigene like some people have done in the past.

Err.

It is a lot easier for Aregbesola to win election in Lagos than it will be for Chime or Akpabio in present day Lagos. Denial of this reality is delusional.

afam4eva: Are we talking of a Non-Lagosian or Non-Yoruba cos you're confusing me here. Isn't this about indiegenous thingy? Non-Lagosians whether Yoruba or not are in the same box.

refer to the thread title.

afam4eva: It has absolutely nothing to do with trust else Tinubu and Fashola wouldn't appoint non-Lagosians into his cabinet. There's no law that's stopping anyone fro anywhere from contesting to be governor of Lagos, afterall a non-lagosian contested against Fashola in 2007.

Appointing one or few people/technocrats to satisfy an interest group by the Governor is not equal to to electing the Governor that appoints this cabinet. Talking about present day Lagos state, give me one name, just one non Yoruba name that is capable of wining Lagos in 2015. Like Gbawe stated, any non Yoruba desiring to govern Lagos must start getting involved and prove himself to the generality of Lagosians over a period of time that he truly love the state and he is working for the interest of the state.

Gbawe: I believe a non-Yoruba will be governor of Lagos in the end but that will happen when evolution makes that possible. When I mentioned Obama, I mean that a young man of Nigerian origin is being touted as able to achieve in the UK what Obama has achieved in the US. All this because attitudes has changed and evolution has taken care of things to ensure many now view Umunna as equal to them instead of insisting , as we see here, he is 'less entitled'. Obama, whatever the crisis the Nation was facing, could not have been President of the USA in 1960 America.

I would encourage anyone who truly loves Lagos , wherever they are from, to actively become involved in its politics. The journey of a thousand miles must begin somewhere and we will someday get to a situation where trusted Individuals many Lagosians believe have the utmost interest of the State at heart, whatever their origin, can become Governor. That time is not 2015 and may not even be upon us in the next 2 decades.

Well said. If the goal is to govern for the betterment of Lagos, then he or she is welcome but I dont see that happening in 2015 cos right now, I dont know of any non Yoruba man/woman that can be trusted without any suspicion to govern Lagos at this time.