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raumdeuter:
Keep calm and vote for the city boy

After he wins you can continue wailing

Donjazet2:
I'm going to reply this post paragraph by paragraph because it has substance but also laced with falsehood and disingenity.




This is your first lie, how would you ask me with a straight face, " what is my business with this administration" when you basically come here every single damn day to regurgitate the governments propaganda and copy and paste it's talking point. From audio victories against terrorists, to audio contracts awarded and outright falsehoods, you are literally a government spokesperson on this thread.

You've always tried to paint the government here well while never posting the negative developments Nigerians are encountering daily.



Choosing a candidate to support to lead you should not be based on just one factor. There are different metrics, indices and factors a candidate should meet up to before being viable for office. Competence (ability to lead), character (relative personal moral standing and behaviour), Physical and health status, impact (legacy, effect and symbolism of candidate's victory).

I will try to very briefly explain those points and in relation to both candidates.

No 1, Impact, what is the legacy, the effect and the symbolism of Obi's candidacy? Let me start with an example, Obama winning in 2008 broke so many racial barriers in American democracy. His candidacy and presidency was highly symbolic in the sense that it healed the scars of America's dark racial past and opened doors that were previously shut to black people in America. How does this relate to Obi. As I've said severally before, an Obi win will be Earth shattering, the effects and implications of Obi winning the presidency next year would send waves across the country and continent. A whole lot of Nigerias will then understand the power they have when they unite against bad leadership and representation. Nigerians just picking a tiny party and making it the ruling party. Politicians become accountable as a result of this. Our democracy and governance improves instantly. It's impact is felt instantly.
As for the symbolism and legacy of Obi's supposed win, just like Obama, Obi winning next year's election shows that the nation has healed from the tribal divisions and deep animosity from the past. An Obi presidency symbolises that igbos are no longer looked at suspiciously or marginalized but are embraced as brother's of the nation too.

Now for Tinubu, voting Tinubu simply signals business as usual. A kakistocracy and a plutocracy. It signals a continuation of the present ruling class, this government and its components which will inevitably lead to the same results. Tinubu's candidacy doesn't bear the same symbolism which an Obi candidacy does.

Now number 2. Physical and health status: I don't need to talk too much here. You already know which candidate is younger, healthier, more energetic and capable of bearing the huge physical responsibilities of leading 200 million people. A presidents job entails Constantly travelling, Constantly attending meetings, Inspecting projects and developments across the entire country. Attending emergencies. Alacrity and sharp mental acuity. Need I go on? Between both candidates, who will handle this best? Tell yourself the truth. An 86 year old or a 61 year old.

Number 3, character. I'm sure I also don't need to talk much here. Even you cannot say Tinubu has a better moral standing and better character than Obi. One has never been a defendant in court. That is, he's never had to defend himself for any negative case whatsoever in any court while the other is an international criminal with criminal cases and indictments both home and abroad. Don't forget that Tinubu has faced corruption and embezzlement charges in Nigeria to add to his drug related and money laundering cases abroad. Small detail to note, Tinubu's physical appearance indicates a person who was or is a habitual user of drugs to which his current ailment is also an indicator to.

Competence; this is where I score both fair. This is Tinubu's only selling point. Honestly I do not know much about Tinubus governance seeing as many of us were too young when he was governor and have to rely on his owned media channels to toot his own horns. But what I don't think anyone would say is that he was a failure. But this is exactly the same with Obi. Aside politics, no one would say he was a failure. So it's very fair to say both have competence based on pedigree.

Soo now, I revert back to an earlier statement, you cannot use only one metric to support a candidate. Yes, Tinubu is competent but is he healthy enough, Is he in the right party, surrounded by the right people? What are the effects of a Tinubu presidency. He has failed the character test. He came out to tell us his entitlement to the office. He believes its his right and that is a failure of character and dignity.



As I've stated above with all my reasons
Obi side by side with Tinubu is just non debatable. Why?? Go up and read my points again. When you've done that, there's no doubt left that your purpose for strongly advocating for your candidate is based on primordial sentiment which is tribalism.

Donjazet2:
By "sensible discourse", you mean gaslighting people into believing that this administration has tried and done very well and deserves to continue for 8 more years, right??

Your idea of "sensible discourse" is to deny that the candidate you support isn't a frail sick man that cannot in any rational way bear the burden and responsibility of 200 million people.

"Sensible discourse" when you cannot even answer me as to the basic information of the candidate you support.

Where can the sensible discourse start from if you yourself are denying our own reality ?

Donjazet2:
Yes of course, you continue to prove to us that we Nigerians in the country are just seen as pawns to you. You think our lives are a joke, that's why serious political issues being discussed are seen as "cruise". Carry on baba!!

Until you hear that herdsmen have overrun your village or foreign countries block Nigerians from going there. Shebi Port Harcourt to Lagos is now 130k.

Don't worry. Continue catching your cruise while our pocket burns.

raumdeuter:
I saw that video some weeks back. The chairman from Oyo or Ekiti was asking for Asun and them go give am Azul

Awon onigbese

Ellexy:
Lmaoooo is that so? You see how ridiculous your statement was abi? That is Agbadonomics for you.

Ellexy:
Lol just look at how you're contradicting yourself in the same statement.

Your logic.... ATIKU[PDP] = OBI[LP]
But...... BUHARI[APC] ≠ TINUBU[APC]

This your Agbadonomics is not agbadoing at all.

Ellexy:
I have many issues with this statement but let me ask this one first...

Oasis.X to whom the question is directed to was clearly making a claim that Peter and PDP are one and the same even though he's no longer a member of the party because he was once part of the Economic Council team under Jonathan. How am I suppose to believe now that Tinubu who's APC's flag bearer[same party with Buhari], who promised to continue in the footsteps and legacies of Buhari, who have all Buhari stooges singing his praise now different from Buhari?

Donjazet2:
No no, I'm just curious as to what will make the person who made this post 5 years ago now be the strongest advocate of that same person.

What changed??
Oh I know, I know, "our son" is on the ballot and we cannot be Omo ale, right??

Donjazet2:
O.asisx, still waiting on you oo.
Please I want to start supporting Tinubu, I love the man Soo much. I just want to know his biography.

Segedinho:
Sorry bro, but do u in any form put oil theft(arguably sponsored by d gov) into consideration during d forecast??

Donjazet2:
The person who once made this statement below is the very person now assiduously defending the same government.

What tribalism cannot do does not exist.

raumdeuter:
We saw Soludo and his impact as CBN governor. We are still waiting for the impact of Obi as Anambra governor

He noted that while Obi gloated about ‘savings’, there is no signature project to remember his regime except that his regime took the first position among all states in Nigeria in the democratization of poverty—- mass impoverishment of the people of Anambra. According to the National Bureau of Statistics, poverty rose under his watch in Anambra from 20% in 2004 (lowest in Nigeria then) to 68% in 2010 (a 238% deterioration!).

Our friend likened it to a father who had no idea of what to do with his resources and was celebrating his fat bank account while his children were dying of kwashiorkor. He pointed out that since it is the likes of Peter Obi who are the advisers to Jonathan on how to manage the economy (thereby confusing micromanagement which you do as a trader with macro governance) it is little wonder that poverty is fast becoming another name for Nigeria. It was a very hilarious evening..

OasisX:


.....One of those present took the satire to some level by comparing Jonathan to the ‘performance’ of the former Governor of Anambra, Peter Obi.  He noted that while Obi gloated about ‘savings’, there is no signature project to remember his regime except that his regime took the first position among all states in Nigeria in the democratization of poverty—- mass impoverishment of the people of Anambra. According to the National Bureau of Statistics, poverty rose under his watch in Anambra from 20% in 2004 (lowest in Nigeria then) to 68% in 2010 (a 238% deterioration!).

Our friend likened it to a father who had no idea of what to do with his resources and was celebrating his fat bank account while his children were dying of kwashiorkor.  He pointed out that since it is the likes of Peter Obi who are the advisers to Jonathan on how to manage the economy (thereby confusing micromanagement which you do as a trader with macro governance) it is little wonder that poverty is fast becoming another name for Nigeria. It was a very hilarious evening..

- Charles Soludo


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/buhari-vs-jonathan-beyond-election-charles-soludo/

raumdeuter:
You think he's new? Just a new moniker but the same guy that has been posting for like 2months now

You will notice the other moniker probably got banned and he signed up with this specifically for this thread