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Sammy07:
stop writing what you don't know. What is the meaning of Oduduwa in Igbo?

As states earlier by ofoigbo, Oduduwa may mean Onye Oduduwa or their leader....other schools of thought have it that ododuwa is actually a corruption of the word Lastborn in Igbo which is Odudu nwa

Dedetwo:
I guess you know the connotation of "Ooni" in Yari.ba. Neither Odudwau nor Akanbi was Oba. It was Obatala that gave rise to the so-called Obaship in Yari.ba land.

Don't mind his ignorance, He knows more than the Ooni, it really isn't easy for a Yoruba king to go beyond sentiments and acknowledge facts......Igbos are too ancient it's a glaring fact

Sammy07:
Stop saying nonsense Abeq.
Anyone can make claims, and he said that to boost you guys Ego during your festival or so, their is nothing like Igbo in Yoruba land, if there is prove it here let me read it

Of course you know better than The Ooni of ife himself, you even know his intentions and why he says the things he says, For you information this was a press release he did and he still insists on it till today

UdechiHD:
The same way the Igbos are the autochtonous people of Kogi state. The Igala during their sojourn from Okun hills met the Igbos who gave them shelter to settle. This is why till today, Igbo blood flows in the veins of people from Odolu/Igalamela down to Ibaji. Had the Attah Igala not ask to be joined with north, would you know the difference between them and Ndigbo?

Yea, Igala people remains the only tribe One can easily mistake for Igbos from physical appearance

UdechiHD:
Trash! Igbos were the ancestors of Igodomingido. The Oguso were an offshoot of the Igbo people who began the empire before the rise of the Bini’s. All the Kings of Igodomingodo had Igbo bloodline, from Igodo than to the last Ogiso.

They have peddled a lie for so long it's starting to seem like truth, igodomigodo is an Igbo phrase, meaning the key knows its key literally or the key knows its padlock in figurative terms....igodo meaning key in Igbo language

MinorityOpinion:
That's olden days believe now, even Chinese believe in ying yang theory. Igbos and the Yorubas are indigenous and longest habitant of where they are now.

I laugh when people say Igbos don't know about their history without realising how ancient the Igbo culture and their language is

Sammy07:
which kind of lies is this. How can you make claims you cannot prove? .. I think you wanna destroy this thread by including Oduduwa and Yorubas

Nobody is destroying anything, Ooni of ife the most respected Yoruba king Made it clear that Igbos were in IFE a long time ago in the past, Oduduwa is a corrupted Igbo name...read up his press release

OfoIgbo:
Thanks Obalatule for reeling out those most Igbo of practices that Benin got from the Igbos (Umu-Nri). I'm already aware of most of them except the EGHO.

Let me just expand a little bit on ODUDUWA.
English = Them
Anambra Igbo = Fa
Imo/Abia = Ha
Anioma = Wa

Bear in mind that these activities were happening across the Niger i.e just beyond ANIOMA. So WA becomes the pronoun.
ONYE ODUDU WA = Their leader

BINI itself was coined from the Igbo phrase ILO OBI INU, which basically means THE ROAD/WAY OF (BITTER HEARTS)/ANGER.

The first Oba of Benin was Oba IWEKA, an Nri titled man. OBA is a title in Nri and it doesn't mean KING. Now the IWEKA appendage will usually be an alias.
So obviously he took on an alias that described the inhabitants of Benin (Ilo Obi Inu).
Every Igbo man knows the meaning of IWEKA (IWE means ANGER). For some reason the name has been corrupted to EWEKA.
The SW almajiris have also muscled into the argument by claiming that Bini is the short form for Ile-Ibunu. All these twisting of history has come about because Nri in its heyday, was a pacifist cultural society.

In the past, every Oba of Benin or Attah of Igala must be made an Ozo by Nri priests, as princes before they mount their respective royal stools.

I have heard the Isu, Igwekala, Kamalu e.t.c tales in the past by a prof. from Imo state, but I have never heard my people (The Nris) talk about it, and the deep traditionalists in my clan have never mentioned them, so because of that, and the fact the it is hard to prove, I normally do not bring up that issue, as I will not be able to back the tales up with proofs. That doesn't mean it didn't happen. It simply means I cannot back them up with existing evidence.

Exactly, that no one talks about it doesn't mean it didn't happen, like you said it's just hard to prove because there is no substantial existing body of work to build on.......Do you know that as a kid when visiting my village(it's an NRI town) , My grandpa will always say something like "Ejiro Isi nwa Nri agu Aro" meaning they don't use the head of an NRI descendant for igu Aro.....I only understood the meaning when I got older, it was from Bini head hunting and their bloody igue festival of blood...which the Europeans reported about on their visit

MinorityOpinion:
Dishing out lies as usual. All the bolded words are lies, shey you people no dey think before dishing out your unbelievable lies?

What is your obsession with Fulani? Are you afraid of them? You are supporting one to be your president over your kinsmen

Igala conquered and dominated igbos then became their priest and control them, they introduced Osu to igbo land. Most of it is in that book I quoted, your history is pitiable and pathetic, no wonder you hide it from the world

Which war did Fulani and igbo fight, you think Fulani war is like the village invading that igbos call war? You don't stand a chance bro.

All these igala business is very recent history, There is no trace of any igala throne in northern Igbo land today

MinorityOpinion:
Can you prove any of these sir? Especially the bolded. I will try and read about Nri kingdom, hopefully when we meet next time, I'd be ready

Go to the palace of the Oba of Benin and make inquiries, that should convince you

MinorityOpinion:
Where are you from? Fake Jews story is even worse

Tell us how you descended form heaven bound up in chains

MinorityOpinion:
You are mistaken sir, its igbo that should be offshoot of Benin not the other way round, talking about never look east.



Benin took their military operation to both west and east, that is why most of South south that disagree with igbos can trace their origin to Benin.

Now ask yourself this question if Benin was an offshoot of ancient igbo Kingdom (with I vehemently disagree with), what were other clan doing not matching up with them? Are they lazy? Are their IQ not the same with Benin so they retrogressed?

Binis where an offshoot of Igbos and continued recieving NRI priests for Earth cleansing and other purposes for hundreds of years

The Igbo migrations out of bini where descendants of these original NRI priests and emissaries, they started dispersing from Bini(Iduland) for different reasons and at different points on time

It is actually stupid to ask why other clans of Igbos didn't build empires like the Binis, sounds stupid...The Nris where mainly priestly people and never tried to conquer anybody with military might, The Bini has a long standing tradition of not using the head of any Nri Descendant during the yearly igue(igu Aro) festival.

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MinorityOpinion:
Igala and Benin influenced igbo arts, most igbo don't know where they came from. Most art pieces in onitsha belong to igala priest that conquered and colonised igbos before the arrival of British

[/s] Ignorance they say is a disease, events of 16th century is like yesterday to what this thread is about, take your ignorance elsewhere.....I guess it's People that claim they descended from a man that fell from heaven bound in chain that knows where they are from

MinorityOpinion:
This is nothing but lies, Benin no una mate for civilization, in the 15th century, Benin was already an empire where decentralised Igbos were still scavenging the east in the Bush, no disrespect here.

You are off-point, Binis where an offshoot of early Igbo ancestors, Building an empire later-on has nothing to do with it...... Through out all their conquering and wars they never looked east towards the Igbos,but they were always traversing yerobaland with impunity..have you asked yourself why?

Abiriba fine Shaa, Very wealthy town

OfoIgbo:
This is a very positive thread.

The Igbo-Nkwo findings are by mere accident. I don't think a proper archeological investigation of Igboland has ever been done, the way it has been done in Benin or Ife.

I am aware of sites that a likely to yield findings that will make the Igbo-Nkwo findings seem like artifacts of yesterday.

Igboland and the people are the most intelligent in Africa, so one should expect a more spectacular and way more ancient set of archeological artifacts, when a proper investigation is made.

The Igbo-Nkwo (Igbo-Ukwu as it is currently known) findings are attributed to Oraeri, an Nri offshoot. The site is located in a piece of land that used to belong to Oraeri a neighbouring town, and this fact was verified by Thurstan Shaw, the Cambridge prof that led in the study and excavation of that site.
Imagine if a proper archaeological study is performed in Nri proper (paying particular attention to Eugwu-Ukwu, and Agukwu section of Nri town), and to a lesser extent Enugwu-Agidi and Nawfia. I can guarantee 100% that way older discoveries will be made in these sites.

The discoveries waiting to be unearthed in these sites will predate the whole Igodomigodo craze by many centuries.

Already, early Portuguese explorers in the 1400s, put down in writing that Nri was greater than Benin, and that Benin obas sort the permission and the blessing of the Eze Nri before any Benin oba could be crowned. Eze Nri Obalike of the 1800s also made it clear to the Europeans that Benin was under the Nri sphere of influence. When Obalike stated this fact, he was totally unaware that early Portuguese explorers noted this and saw these highly respected Nri titled men in the palace of the Oba of Benin.

Igbos have not been taking their history very seriously. Proper studies need to be carried out

Binis where actually an offshoot of an ancient Igbo group which also included the"Isu" group of Igbos and the ARO,...The ISU and idu(Bini) and Aro along with two other relatives which included the igala ancestors, that's why Igbos,Bini and igala use the word "isee" to seal prayers signifying the original five branches.

Bini are a branch of the Igbo race. They left Nri under the leadership of Igodo to found Igodomigodo due to nso - ani. Hence Bini language and culture is similar to Igbo.

The Bini Igue Festival is borrowed from Nri Iguaro festival.

The Bini 4 days of the week - Eken, Afon, Orien, Nkwon were borrowed from Nri.

The Bini succession by primogeniture is an adaptation of the Okpalabisi Igbo system that grants total rights of succession to the first son.

The customary Bini breaking of Kolanut is also derived from Nri. 'Onye wetere oji wetere ndu'.

The New Yam festival is a carry over from Nri. It is still celebrated with pomp and pageantry in Benin.

The Ogiso dynasty of Igodo migodo is Igbo. Ogie - so means leader who must be followed.

Till date Nri Priests are important in the coronation functions of the Obas of Benin.

The word OKORO which is the finest specimen of the male species amongst Igbos, also means Prince in Bini.

Most people don't know that even Bini counting is very similar to Igbo counting.

Do you know that the Bini still use the Igbo word EGO, EGHO for money.

Many Bini towns still bear their Igbo names till date eg ISIUWA, IGUOBAZUWA.

The Benin Prince called Oduduwa /Izoduwa /Imaduwa who left to Ife just 900 years ago bears his Igbo name and its meanings on leadership is clear to every Igbo.

helinues:
This is when real ancient brown roofs are needed, but what can we say about people with no heritage...

Thank you for your contribution, but we're talking about ancient civilisations/ cultures here, not vestiges of unchecked poverty

Shiver99:
Thank you for your contribution, but we're talking about ancient civilisations/ cultures here, not vestiges of unchecked poverty.

What a savage

Breeze go blow and Tinubu nyansh go open

IGbo civilization is so ancient and shrouded in mystery

trilacos:
cry cry baby,cry me a river!! If your governors brain are filled with that,you wont be underdeveloped.sorry bro,we don't like playing with poto poto.go and play with your potopoto,please be careful of the python.

Wretched mgbati scratch face rat, have you willed your hydraulic green poison today?

trilacos:
typical of nyamiri Igbo,always going to the gutter to play,little wonder there road is known as 'poto poto' road.

Little wonder your brain is filled with poto poto, Ewedu Dunce!!

NGpatriot:
You ipob villagers really need to mind your ipob village level and stop embarrassing Nigeria..

Ewedu knuckle head, look at your osogbo Dubai... no single modern building in sight

NGpatriot:
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I don't deal with ipob den say den say rubbish, if you have your own fabricated ipob village stats to counter mine with, show us or just keep quiet.

Osun sinking ship, Green ewedu teeth come and explain this with your washed up stats

ojokolax:
the very first claim is a lie though. It came up during the vice president's debate last year and Peter Obi couldn't explain how state funds ended up in his family business.
for more reading though... https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/obiano-denies-obis-n75bn-handover/

You turned blind to the part where obi through his media aide reiterated his initial stance?..well here it is:

But in a swift reaction, Obi described the state government’s statement as untrue.

Speaking through his media aide, Mr. Valentine Obienyem, Obi said it was a deliberate attempt by the state government to misrepresent facts.

Obienyem insisted: “Obi left over N75 Billion in cash and investment. The breakdown is as follows: N27 billion in local currency investment; N26. 5 billion in foreign currency investment and N28.1 billion in Certified State/ MDS balances.

“Even in the final handover document, Obi deducted N10 billion approved Federal Government refund, as well as the salary, pension, gratuity, money on certificates raised on contracts for the month of March which all amounted to N5 billion before arriving at the balance of over 75 billion he bequeathed his successor.

“As a financial expert, Obi went to his end of tenure event with Gov. Willie Obiano and said all these in the presence of all the bank MDs in whose banks the monies are lodged. In fact, as at March 17th he handed over, he got all the certified statements of Anambra’s accounts from the banks this monies were and handed them over to his successor. If they were confused on where the monies were , why would they not call Obi who kept them to explain the whereabouts to them as much as he knew?”.

He said it was good that the state government did not deny the fact that before leaving office, Obi paid billions of naira for the completion of Agulu Lake Hotel, Onitsha Hotel, Awka and Nnewi shopping malls, and invested in SABMiller Breweries in Onitsha, value of which, he said, has tripled.

He added: “It is curious that the denial came at a time the state government had concluded arrangement to massively borrow money from banks and financial institutions”, adding that they did not need to paint Obi black to do so, especially when the man, since leaving office, has not for a day commented on what is happening in Anambra, even with the daily drench of blame coming his way as being responsible for whatever, right or wrong, that are happening in the state for making his successor a governor, single handedly.”

NGpatriot:
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I don't deal with ipob den say den say rubbish, if you have your own fabricated ipob village stats to counter mine with, show us or just keep quiet.

Stats choke you there!!, lying cunt.....where's the Osun airport you where ranting about last year?, Your full time job is to peddle lies on the internet

NGpatriot:
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Na facts I asked you for, not the same blah blah meaningless rubbish.

Facts of what exactly?.....only a very dull person will believe paper stats in Nigeria over what is obtainable on ground, Go osogbo and spend one week then come back and tell us if you still think it's a thriving economy.....Don't qoute me again or we are going to the gutter to play