thomasjoe:

Kindly remember that many people especially females are very manipulative and Selfish...They will do all to lead you on to their advantage ,collect all they can and still not share themselves with you . This is very common especially amongst single females .

I guess you now realize who the joke is on?

Well I guess the joke is on the girl because she was kicked out into the cold without transport fare and a replacement called in pronto

funkemary:


So the girl should just assume things in her head that this guy is interested in her without the guy saying anything of the sort just because he gives her stipends

Sheh you know the handwriting are written on the wall that this said guy only wanted her for the night and there is every possibility that it won't stop after one night. She is wise not to accept fling that has no direction

Then why did she go to the house when the guy clearly told her he wanted to cuddle? He didn't leave anything for the girl to assume. He told her what he wanted and she agreed!

It's like you don't understand the meaning of cuddle. The guy wanted romance ni! He wanted them to be lovey dovey in each others arms and the girl came! Is that not asking for trouble?

funkemary:


He invited me over and I accepted. Fine. Do you have to rub it on my face? Manner of approach matters a lot you know right. The fact that you are buoyant financially doesn't mean you should not checkmate how you approach people coz your intention may be right but I tell you this, your approach can make it look bad.

P.s I never supported her for not going with T.P and I wonder why you are not seeing what the guy did wrong. Are you saying you can even do worse?

meanwhile this is what you get when you are completely dependent. For me, I rather learn with peoples mistakes than wait until it gets to me

Happy Sunday

Any girl born even yesterday knows when a guy is interested in her.

If a guy invites you to come over and tells you he needs to cuddle and you don't get the 411 then you are certainly on a long thing.

As for the behaviour of the guy, he has the right to invite and eject whoever he likes from his house. If you don't want to be sexually assaulted you dont dine with the devil period. If you choose to do so with a long spoon, come prepared. The guy in question asked the girl to leave. He didn't force himself on her or beat her up.

flatROCKhead:
You messed up big time. No be by force na. You lose for futures trading but you still wan bleep. The girl was smart enough to know that you were going to fvckk the futures loss out of her. Na she send you work?

Why would you throw her out in the dark like that? You are the wicked and the selfish one. What if she fell into the trap of ritualists, rapistss and what have you? You are an evil being

Pls look for a way to apologize to her. If possible, make her happy by buying her stuff

You're joking right? If he feels like buying stuff, he should buy gifts and send to his parents who sacrificed to raise him or better still go to the nearest motherless babies home and invest!

If anything the girl should be the one apologising for leading him on! From the onset she should have clearly defined the rules of engagement and let the boy decide if he wanted to continue with this weird relationship/friendship thingy.

funkemary:




Where is the hypocrisy? Where is it coz I can't find any

Of course it's okay for the girl to receive gift(s) did he mention that she has been denying him material gift? Oh, i get you... The gift you are referring to is her body. You are not serious.

It's a gift remember she did not force him to extend his act of generosity so why forcefully ask her to pay back with her body?

You may be right in the sense that she isn't stupid to spend time alone with a guy but hey, she isn't stupid either to know that this guy only want her for the night and probably as a fling so she declined. I think she is a smart girl who know what she wants

So you as a babe if a guy that has been giving you gifts asks you to come to his house to 'cuddle' will you honestly go there not knowing what could happen? Why agree to go and cuddle someone from the opposite sex and not expect anything to happen if you are really smart? The worst part is that the girl went there and did not even go with her TP just in case something goes wrong? And you call her smart? Perhaps you are also as 'smart' as her! No free lunch anywhere my sister. If you think you've been smart all this while eating men's money and getting away with it, it's only a matter of time before the cock will come home to roost!

funkemary:
You are wrong and it doesn't speak well of you. Based on how you define she is just someone you assist with one thing or the other, no intimacy or whatever connection attached you now call her one day to cuddle and probably lay with her. Haba would you have succumb to it if it was to be you

Not all persons are cool with friends with benefits kind of thing. I'm glad your conscious took a better part. Please apologize for sending her out that late in the night

Lots of hypocrisy on display here.

It's ok for the girl to receive gifts from the guy but not vice versa?

Is the girl that stupid not to understand the poisoned chalice she was drinking from going to spend time alone with a guy in his house and accepting his gifts? Did she imagine the boy was father Christmas?

Shimran:



You're pained with Ramadan stuff severely like this? What of the rice shared by the southerners during Christmas?

Was it shared by state governments?

Good people kindly suggest FTA dedicated Nollywood channels and their frequencies to me.

Throwback:
Very good!

We don't spend dollars in Nigeria. Collect the naira equivalent and spend.

Why government will tolerate that rubbish is quite puzzling.

Nigeria is about the only foolish country that tolerate that nonsense. No sense of economic security.

Next is to ensure domiciliary accounts only get credited with foreign currencies from international transfer to cater for those who work rotations abroad or those who work remotely, and once the account is credited, any amount beyond a certain threshold should be converted to Naira, while whatever is left should be taxed at a monthly rate that ensures that the money is reduced to half of what was left as a foreign currency in the domiciliary account. That will help discourage any plan to retain forex as a means to store wealth in the domiciliary account

This double blow will ensure that those stockpiling forex cash do not have anywhere to offload it within the Nigerian economy.

All forex trading outside of the banking system should carry life imprisonment for economic treason.

I can vouch that 50% of all the forex trading going on in the past 6months, is not serving any economic purpose besides storing wealth.

Very very stupid comment! Is Forex a Nigerian business?

PortHarcourtcit:
Mr ITK, don't worry yourself everything is under control...

What was that for? No need to get angry 😂

PortHarcourtcit:
that's a means of developing those areas

Metro is supposed to be a MASS transit scheme. It is not intended for developing areas but as a veritable tool for traffic decongestion.

Siting a light rail project in less developed areas means that the project would be blighted with low patronage which would ultimately undermine the maintenance and successful operation of the project as a business as it would be blighted with heavy losses.

Procashtips:


Refer to what Neptu said.

This argument is not strong at all. If you have been long in this country, you wouldn't bring this up.

Take it from someone in the construction industry.

Most old houses hardly renovate or buy any major building materials. The argument is flawed

Haba sir you are being economical with the truth or perhaps you live in an area of Lagos where anything goes and people have no taste. Otherwise it is normal even in old houses for landlords to renovate same and rent out to new tenants. This is why we even have caution fee in the first place.

naptu2 feels he is the next best thing since the invention of bread and butter. He would quote encyclopedia Britannica to try and make a point but when you sift through all the big English and posts, there is little content.

These are the kinds of Pharisees Jesus rebuked in his days. People who are quick to quote law without thinking first that Sabbath was made for man and not the other way round.

Let him continue to bask in his delulu of grandeur.

In a sane clime, if Quilox wanted to do an open air event, they would apply for the necessary permits to do so. Upon application to the relevant govt agency eg LASEPA, same would deploy their officials to work with Quilox management to ensure success of same event whilst ensuring they don't constitute a public nuisance by deploying all the necessary logistics for a smooth functioning. These are things that are easy to coordinate when the communication lines between government and these businesses are open and cordial. It's just like saying that we are expecting the president to visit Lagos and there won't be advance notice or that the relevant govt agencies won't put in place the necessary logistics for smooth functioning of said event.

These things are not rocket science!

Basic123:

You just want to criticize.
Its a very easy thing to do..its cheap!

Like I said go and read what I wrote. The priority right now should be protecting people's businesses right now. Government and government agencies should have a human face.

Government in choosing to enforce the law can choose to be absolute or pro people. Imagine if all shops and even barbing saloons are evacuated from residential areas too. Schools and hospitals as well. You get my drift?

Basic123:


This is how you people fail exams!

The ministry of works is doing theirs,
The ministry of environment is doing theirs.
Should the ministry of environment stop working because the ministry of works has alot to do.

This is how will be discussing activities of ministry of education and you people will be asking "will that bring down the values of dollars?"

You people just criticize blindly and emotionally!

I'm sure sir that you can read. Go ahead and read all I have written beforehand.

Succinctly put I have advocated against destruction of people's properties and businesses because same are cited in residential areas.

I have also advocated for a need to tweak government approach towards these infractions with a view to prioritising keeping people's legitimate business afloat in this difficult economic climate whilst working with these units to address some of the environmental issues highlighted instead of the extreme of relocating businesses and destroying people's properties indiscriminately. When Buhari was in office, several times he wanted to remove subsidy but as a man of the people he knew doing it would make the people suffer. That's why he stayed action for so many years due to public outcry. He also set up social welfare programmes because he wanted his government to have a human face. He didn't get everything right but I think any responsible government should measure the impact of its actions on its people and devise ways to get the best solutions for all.

You are the one who will fail the exam because you just reacted emotively without taking time to understand what I've been talking about!

ps. Forget naptu2 he seems to believe that lasepa is an autonomous body that is not part of the organs of the LASG and as such should operate indiscriminately as they are not accountable to anybody but themselves. All ministries under the government whilst having different functions, work under a single corporate vision as defined by the governor. If the governor cares about the people and wants the best for them, this vision will guide their operations. If his goal is to maximise profit and not the public good, same would be reflected in their operations etc

naptu2:
One of the best examples of this problem is Quilox Night Club and you'll understand what is happening when I describe the problem to you.

The interior of the club is soundproof, you can't hear the music outside, yet Quilox causes massive problems every Christmas season.

The first time they held a 24 hour non-stop party. The party was held outside ! They not only disturbed the neighbourhood with their noise, but their customers parked their cars right on Ozumba Mbadiwe Road, thereby causing massive traffic jams. They were walking right on the road early in the morning, I almost hit some of them.

It's like they were emboldened by that event and in 2019 they had a 48 hour non-stop party. It was reported that Governor Sanwo-Olu was stuck in the traffic that they created and his motorcade had to take another route.

I knew better than to take that route that day, after my experience the previous year, but I was following the events on Twitter. It trended across Nigeria because people that were stuck in traffic were complaining. Some people spent the night in that traffic.

LASTMA came to make the customers to move their vehicles, but they resisted. LASTMA then got police reinforcement and towed vehicles off the road. The police arrested people that resisted and took them to Maroko Police Station. LASEPA then came and shut down the club.

There was commotion at Maroko Police Station. Policemen said that Shina Peller (the owner of Quilox) came to attack them, so they arrested him. Shina Peller said that he went to bail his customers and the police arrested him.

There were still similar problems with Quilox in 2021 and 2022.

The government was better prepared last year (when Quilox held a 58 hour party) and they immediately went to shut the place down when complaints about the noise and illegal parking began.

This is a nightclub that has a soundproof hall!

That's the anyhowness that happens here and that's what government is trying to stop.

That's one way to look at it. People can choose to view a glass half filled with water as half full or half empty.

Wrt to the Quilox case. I asked someone a while back that if visitors and workers to the Dangote refinery caused a traffic blockage in the community where same was sited if LASG/LASEPA would consider shutting down the refinery, sealing it off or arresting Dangote? I'm sure they won't dare. Why then Quilox? Do you know how much Quilox pays yearly in taxes to LASG? Do you know how many staff Quilox employs?

Why not proactively work with Quilox to:
a. Ensure they secure a property nearby for costumers to park their vehicles. I hear that there is a primary school close by with a large expanse of land that can be used for this purpose.
b. Why should LASTMA wait for traffic jams before they come around? Knowing the proclivity of Lagos drivers to indiscriminate parking and traffic jams, why are officers not deployed ahead of time to ensure proper parking and free flow of traffic with defaulters apprehended tout suite? How is traffic and parking managed on the Lagos Ibadan expressway during RCCG and MFM mega programmes?

Are these measures too hard to implement? Will they not go along way towards resolving the issues raised?

You see what I mean about being proactive? A responsible government should be able to anticipate these issues and provide mitigants and work with the affected businesses to forestall such occurrences! Instead of always being reactive and quoting law after the fact!

Procashtips:


They won't demolish anything, they just want to use that to make owners evict these set of entities from their buildings.

Remember Nigerians only know force. If it's to demolish, how many will they demolish?

As for hike in rent, did they just build most of the houses that you're asking me to go to the market to price building materials?

Are the houses buying building materials daily to demand hike in rent?

I can understand new houses, but the old ones.

Rent hike didn't start now, it started a while back, just that old houses with no modem facilities have now joined without shame.

Let churches, mosques, clubhouses and businesses go and rent mails meant for businesses or build their own in designated areas
.

Bros be honest. You and I both know that building materials are used either in constructing new buildings or renovating older ones after old tenants vacate the property and before new tenants occupy same. Also as property values appreciate in neighbouring properties, landlords will increase their rent to reflect same as well as to reflect current economic realities.

Procashtips:


Demolish?

They said vacate so the properties can be used for the intended purpose.
Residential should be residential.

Apart from the unnecessary noise and other environmental issues they bring along, have you noticed that rent has gone up?

The demand for few available houses is just too much.

Churches, mosques, clubhouses and other businesses should move to areas designed for such activities and let residential environments remain so.

Let's for once be okay with doing the right thing and stop antagonizing everything!

You want your country to develop, when they decide to take decisions to that direction, you antagonize it again.

Shhh what exactly do you people want?

Read the original quote. Building owners are expected to vacate such occupants within 30days or such structures would be removed at owners expense.

As per increase in rent, guy let's be honest. Our inflation is officially approaching 30% and you expect rent pricing not to go up? Whenever you are less busy, take a stroll into the building materials market in your area and spend 30 minutes there comparing prices of items there 6 months ago to today's prices. Then come back and let's have this convo.

Thank you.

Christlike01:


My business is not to prove anything to you but for you to know that more and more of such policies that will sanitize our state are coming and nothing on this earth will stop us from implementing those policies.

You know the way to your village if you can't cope,village boy !

I for one will certainly support government demolishing your church because you are definitely anything but Christlike

What a hypocrite! Do you discriminate when collecting tithes and offerings? Do you discriminate when sending your children to school? Do you discrimate when going to the market or to the hospital?

naptu2:
The government has a duty to uphold the law. They swore an oath that they would uphold the law.

The government also has a duty to its citizens that are affected by these illegal actovities.

Do not let lawless people who think they can do anything they want to confuse you.

Again man was not made for Sabbath but Sabbath for man. Laws are designed to serve the greatest good. We cannot be playing politics with people's livelihoods right now! Absolutely not! Before government is thinking about demolishing structures, first thing should be to ensure such areas have good public infrastructure. That's all I'm saying. Govt is elected to serve the people. Not so?

naptu2:
Read

This is the law

Ignorantia juris non excusat

Even from biblical times, Man was not made for Sabbath bro but Sabbath for Man. That was why Jesus rebuked the Pharisees.

I asked you a question about a private community health center. I await your response.

Christlike01:


This is exactly what you're running away from; your tasteless,slavery identity and heritage! For how long are you gonna keep running away,Chinedu ? We aren't complaining about our government in Lagos, Sanwo-Olu is working and Lagos is moving forward. You should be concerned about the demons that are chasing your own people away from your ancestral 'cause that's where you belong !

Even if your great grandfather refused to go back to his village and died in Lagos,that will NEVER make an indigene of Lagos State. You're nothing but an "atohunrinwa", a poor economic migrant from the pit of hell !

More yenyen. Why are you so angry bro 🤣🤣🤣? Did you just finish fighting bus conductor for change?

As for your moniker.... Is this how someone who is Christ like should talk?

Still on the matter, e sure me die say you are definitely not from Lagos state. You're just a wannabe who does not even mean well for the people of Lagos.

AyeMoJuba:


How many of those ramshackle structures can afford a soundproof technology?
They are long due to be taken out of residential areas.
Good riddance to bad rubbish joo

Let's start by ensuring these structures comply to code first. Those that can't will definitely need to be shut down.

However, I'm sure you would prefer having good access roads and better schools and health care facilities than noisy churches.

naptu2:
It's even right there on the Wikipedia article about town planning!

Read the screenshot below.

Fines, penalties and demolition... Not just the extreme and certainly not when the public infrastructure is in total decay!

Government should lead from the front!

naptu2:
Lagos was properly zoned when I was a kid.

Ikoyi, Victoria Island, Ikeja GRA and parts of Apapa were the main upper class residential areas.

Yaba, Surulere, etc were the main middle class residential areas.

Maroko, Ajegunle, etc were the main lower class residential areas.

The industrial areas were at Apapa, Ikeja and Ilupeju.

The main commercial district was on Lagos Island, in the Broad Street/Marina area.

Broad Street, which was a one-way street, was wider than Bourdillon Road, which was a two-way street. This was because Broad Street handled more traffic because it was in the central business district, while there was nothing like traffic jam on Bourdillon Road.

In fact there was nothing like traffic jam in the whole of eastern Ikoyi. It was a quiet leafy neighbourhood. You said goodbye to the sun as soon as you crossed Falomo. There were large trees that acted as canopies over the whole area.

Roads in the industrial areas were built thicker than roads in other areas because the government knew that the industrial areas had to handle large trailer trucks that could easily damage thin roads.

The destruction of Lagos began in the mid-1980s.

The military governments allowed anybody to build anything anywhere. The area boy phenomenon appeared on Lagos Island and many large companies fled to Victoria Island.

Parts of Victoria Island that were meant to be residential areas were suddenly attacked by tall buildings. Imagine building a large skyscraper on a narrow road that was designed to be a residential area. That was the cause of the terrible traffic jam on V/I.

I was very angry when the Tinubu and Fashola governments began widening the roads to accomodate those skyscrapers. I had been dreaming of using a bulldozer to demolish them.

Look at what's happening in Shomolu. People have gone to build warehouses in an area that is supposed to be a residential area. You see long trailer trucks trying to navigate narrow roads and delaying everybody behind them. Boys on the trucls have to use sticks to move electric wires aside.

Those heavy trailers have destroyed the roads in Shomolu and the government has to keep repairing them non-stop.

I remember when residents of Satellite Town complained to the Lagos State Government.

Satellite Town was built in the 1970s to be a quiet residential area, but people have now gone to build tank farms all over the place. The tankers have destroyed all the roads in the area and residents can hardly drive through because there are tankers parked everywhere. They are even putting the residents at risk from fire and explosions

Your stories are quite amusing actually but there is some truth to what you are saying although views can be a little extreme. Imagine dreaming of demolishing skyscrapers

Some of you would really do and undo if you were in power

naptu2:
People deliberately do illegal things with the idea that the worst that the government can do is come to an agreement with them.

These people need to be punished so that they won't do the same thing next time.

There is no way anyone can convince me that people did not know that you need planning permission before converting those properties.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this sir. Again my issue is not with sanctions but the type of sanctions imposed. In everything the greater good of all should be considered. If a retired doctor converts his 3 bedroom apartment to a hospital serving the community and is yet to get the approval to use his residential property for commercial purpose, would you advocate for same to be demolished knowing it has been saving lives and providing health care for community residents?

Christlike01:


Lol ! Lagos is a "hot mess" yet you guys keep running away from your own ancestral land, always arriving in droves overnight in Ekene Dili Chukwu and Young Shall Grow buses in that same "hot mess" Lagos,right ?! Quit whatever hard substance you're smoking already;it's messing up your mental health ,kiddo !

You guys obsession with Lagos and Yoruba land is quite disgusting! You think the people of Lagos State "deserve better government" but your own people can't even live in your own region/states ?! If governance is better in your ancestral region,why are your people moving out in droves from it ?! You're sure I'm not a Lagosian because it has always been you guys's dream to take over my land and make it yours right from the days of a certain Mr Nnamdi Azikiwe but you've always been failing and will continue to fail ! How is it Yoruba problem that you guys are not proud of your own identity and heritage hence you keep running away from it !

My point earlier is very clear; go back to your village if you can't cope with our laws in Lagos. We won't lower our standards or bend our laws just because some villagers from gods-know-where feel uncomfortable with it ! Only if you'll invest just a little of the energy and time you use in monitoring Lagos government and Yoruba people around in your own state government and Ndigbo, perhaps the the influx of Ekene Dili Chukwu and Young Shall Grow buses into Lagos and other parts of Yoruba land will reduce !

Now,crawl back into whatever hole you came out from and remain dumber than you're already there, slowpoke!

Yenyen cry more..... It doesn't take away the fact that the people of Lagos deserve better and should hold their government accountable.

It also does not detract from the fact that you are most definitely not from Lagos and don't wish the people of Lagos well

naptu2:
What those people did is illegal and the government is right to correct it. That is unarguable.

Obi58 can only do what about every other wrong in the world, but he cannot change the fact that it is illegal to convert residential buildings without planning permission and the government is right to correct the wrong that was done. This is a fact, not an opinion.

The government has every right to correct it without doubt. I have not disputed that. The key question is HOW this is done to ensure the most minimal disruption of people's livelihoods and ensuring a win win situation. This is where I fault the implementation.

naptu2:
More utter tosh from Obi58. He is so desperate to write something negative that he is rambling all over the place.

His only hope is to ttry and derail the thread because he cannot win on this issue, so he'll talk about something else.

Town planning

I was taught this topic in my primary school social studies class, so I assumed that everybody will understand it, but sadly it seems that’s not the case, so I’ll have to explain it.

Every sensible jurisdiction has got a town planning authority and you cannot build, renovate, convert or alter a property in any way without planning permission.

The reason for planning permissions are numerous, but in summary, it’s all about how what you want to do will affect your neighbours, the environment and the image of the city or town. The ways include:

1)Traffic: Imagine that you live in a quiet residential neighbourhood with narrow streets and someone suddenly builds a megachurch, stadium, theatre or some other kind of large facility without providing appropriate parking facilities. Firstly, the road was not designed to handle that kind of traffic and secondly, he has not provided adequate parking facilities for the large number of people that will visit his establishment.
That means that home owners might have great difficulty going into and out of their houses. That’s why it’s necessary for the planning authorities to know the impact of your establishment of traffic before you are given planning permission.

2) Noise: The planning authorities must evaluate whether your establishment will make a lot of noise and disturb neighbours and they must know how you intend to mitigate the effect of that noise before they grant planning permission. In some places some establishments are not permitted to stay open after 10pm, some establishments are required to soundproof their halls and or equipment, etc. All these must be done before planning permission is granted.


3) In fact, in some jurisdictions you are not permitted to build above a certain height and you cannot even cut the trees on your property. All these are done to preserve the aesthetics of the place.

4) In some jurisdiction these regulations are used to plan how the government and other authorities provide services to the populace. For example, in times of electricity shortage the electricity company can manage the load by providing electricity to commercial and industrial districts in the mornings and afternoons and to residential districts in the evenings and nights.

In Lagos State, the Lagos State Urban And Regional Planning And Development , Law regulates property development in the state.

Section 99 of the Lagos State Urban and Regional Planning and Development Law Cap. U2, Laws of Lagos State of Nigeria 2015, authorises the commissioner for town planning and urban development to make regulations for property developments in the state.

Under the regulations you cannot just wake up and decide to convert a residential property into a commercial property or a church without planning permission. It is illegal.
https://epp.lagosstate.gov.ng/regulations/REVISED_LASPPPA_REGULATION_2019_1.pdf



It is the same in all sensible jurisdictions around the world. I remember when Arsenal wanted to build the Emirates Stadium and they had to wait for planning permission from Islington Council.

Educate yourself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planning_permission

Uncle ....

This is not a discussion about town planning.

This is a discussion about priorities.

If you ask a Lagosian to choose between having good access roads and schools as compared to whether the shop in front of his house is legal or not there would be only one winner.

Enough already with all this hypocritical playing to the gallery naptu2. Charity begins at home. If you don't know what to do, go to Abia state and educate yourself on what a responsible and resojnsive government should be like instead of getting stuck in frivolous bureaucracy and redtapism which is not serving the people.

Utter tosh you said? Education without functionality is utter tosh and that's what you are currently exhibiting sir unfortunately.

This is an unalienable fact. The economy is currently in tatters. We have finally reached an all time low of $1 to N1520! Let that sink in! This is certainly not the time to be playing politics with people's livelihoods.

AyeMoJuba:


Late night Generator usage is the next in line to be outlawed.
Some people are so insensitive that they put on their Generators till 3am robing you of a good night rest.

Again putting the cart ahead of the horse. If there is adequate electricity would anyone be putting on gen at that time? What is your government doing about it?

delpee:


The sound proofing rule and specified noise levels has always been there. People don't comply. Some have been closed severally, yet the situation remains the same once reopened. It's a terrible experience having a sleepless night after the day's gruelling stress.

This is where enforcement and active engagement of stakeholders by government comes in! Instead of destroying the worship center, if a mosque or church is a serial offender, nothing stops government from sending the imam or pastor to jail for 1-3 months if letters and fines have failed. These things can work! Just don't throw the baby away with the bath water!!