₦airaland Forum

naijalander:
Wait till you see the drama between Efunsetan and Latosa. Pure Nollywood!

Oh really

I'm so much enjoying this, how i wish this rich history will hit the cinemas someday, i am an addict of history film, Korean mostly. Reading this write up, all i can think of is the costume

dEastActivist:

Which kingdom? Don't just lie on the bed and start churning out baseless unverifiable facts.

Treachery, backstabbing and betrayal has always been part of a specific ethnic group throughout their history and present as I have currently witnessed.

Romans?

LordAdam7:
If that were so, there wouldn't be no USA, Mexico, Britain, Canada, Germany, France, Russia, India, Pakistan...

Each of these powers I mentioned came to a cross-road at some point where they had a major foe that threatened their very existence, and they came together to disband that foe (even with their intra-rivalries).

So no, this is not just about the fall of the Oyo empire, this is about an educated people hampered by the treachery of a significant proportion of them.

If it wasn't for the topography, the Fulani would have overran the Yorubas (supported of course by greedy, self-centered Yoruba chiefs). That's the line I'm drawing. It is one thing to have rivalry between each other (every tribe has intra rivalry), it is a whole other thing for powerful people with a large followership (not just a few Judases) to allow a common enemy to kill their own blood.

Only I can slap my brother. If someone else outside the family slaps him, na police cell straight.

I hope u get my point.

-Lord

I'm talking empires you are mentioning countries, what killed the roman empire

LordAdam7:
Don't twist history.

From the account written above, the rebellion against the Alafin was clearly institutional. Had nothing to do with a noble aim to stop slave trade.

Rebellions happen all the time in those days, so no biggie. Princes dethrone kings.

But what the account tells is a chilling tale of how the Yoruba country in its might fell from grass to grace with the complicity of powerful Yorubas.

I think there is a fine line between personal ambition and national preservation. And many influential Yoruba people who had the power to change history were on the side of the invaders.

The Yorubas are a great people, but that recurring incidence of treachery doesn't leave a good taste in the mouth at all.

-Lord

But this is exactly what lead to the fall of almost every great Kingdom. It's a human thing

This is more like pdp Live Monitoring and Updates

desmond2pk:
They are using the east as gunnea pig. They can't start in the north because of lack of cooks.
Make no mistakes, all the cooks that participated in anambra will be transferred to kastina next year, to kick start the feeding programme.
The north is backward in everything but corruption.

Later you will cry of marginalization

God bless any government that feeds its kids

Atiku2019:
I Hope The Nigerian Army will not "Storm" into my poultry farm this Christmas

Are We in a democratic or military Regime?

You obviously don't do agric

haykay2005:
Another military force approach. DSS continue to arrest Bureau De change operators, naira value keep falling. Allow forces of demand and supply to dictate price biko

This is strictly for the agric sector, it helps maintain prices which is good for planning and also ensures quality

BeeBeeOoh:
If you can ask your father/mother about their 1983-1985 hunger experiences you won't dare come online to celebrate nonsensical nonsense. And, believe me when this jungle you are clamouring for or celebrating in advance matures, hunger will reset your brain without your consent.

Do us a favour & ask your parents how they queued up then to buy salt, sugar etc or how people lose their goods if you sell above the fixed price of Buhari/Idiagbon.

All these indomie generation peeps sef

Why not shut up if you don't understand the topic, commodity pricing board is between the farmers and suppliers or merchants, it has nothing to do with anyone queuing up for nothing.
Poultry farmers have been clamouring for this for years and every sane country has it as a practice in its agricultural sector although it is not usually run by the government (atleast not everywhere)

Nonsense, very soon NYSC will start asking to carry firearms.

Why not just approve state police instead of all these useless stopgap measures

LFJ:
Lol, of all my praises on you as one of our best nairaland political analyst, you still find style to jab me as insane mind. There is God o! Continue.

Lol, no mind me jare, na my badmouth carry mme go there

LFJ:
Very brilliant ideas, What Buhari should have done in his 1st week in the office by Obiageli one of the great nairaland political analyst:
1. Hold meetings with Boko Haram in the north, militants in south south, OPC in the south west, IPOD in south east, and herdsmen. This is necessary to assured them that we have accepted criminal gangs as another arms of our government.
2. To meet the manufacturers... manufacturers in Nigeria? seriously, I don't understand ...
3. A bills to the National Assembly for special court for corruption. This option will be baseless with the current set of criminals administering our justice. Angel will not be employ to manage special court.
4. Push for PIB, emegency economic power... all within a week ...

You are just too much.

If only you read the last sentence of that post. My opinion anyways. Some sane mind mentioned power as one of the biggest failures of this administration, fixing the niger delta issue would have ensured power stability to an extent, in fact our forex problem would not be this bad

LFJ:
I will support this idea when you are objective in analyzing national issue.

Ok

BlackBaron:
Jonathan was rightly shown out of the door.
As for Buhari, he sooner than later showed that after all his noise and promises, he had no answers to the problem on ground. Took as many months to elect a cabinet only to see same old faces almost bare of technocrats.
As for trying to combat corruption and insecurity, his scores are as much as 5 and a 4 respectively. Economy at the moment is a paltry 1. Boasts of technical defeats and untenable press releases about foreign nomadic marauders only shows the level of falsehood and lies by this government.

Inconsistent policies led to the painful dips in recession. The exchange rate was easily the worst with people exploiting the ridiculous loophole to get richer meaning the poorer had to bear the brunt of costly produce because retailers were paying more for foreign exchange.
It's not enough to suddenly lock off the country without providing the right infrastructures for local industries to take off, how much more limiting their access to produce by killing the exchange.

Just like I could see the disaster of the last government less than 2 years in, we are now enamoured with the prospects of the consecutive worst governments running back to back.

I am so enjoying this discourse, the arguments for and against have been very sound. I agree with many of your points

Abagworo:
Well one man's food is another man's poison and 2ndly you cannot eat your cake and still have. I like the way Nigeria is going now because the future will be bright after the sacrifice and we shall never develop without sacrifice on the part of both leaders and followers.

The sector I will score this government far below expectation is power. It remains the biggest bane to our industrial revolution and I thought that within 2 years something worth celebrating should be there. Well they have up till June next year for me to pass my judgement.

The biggest success is in agriculture and self reliance. I never believed I would one day eat Nigerian rice but I am now not only a full time consumer but have established a rice factory whereas as at May 2015 I gave Nigerian rice no chance in my house.

For the 1st time we have Nigerians making Nigerian Army kit and VIPs patronizing Nigeria made clothings and footwears. If the trend continues by 2026 we will cut our forex demand by at least 50%

Interesting, one cannot but agree with your points.

LFJ:
From the available options at that time, what option would you have suggested?

More reason why we should start looking for options beyond the the major parties if they continue to produce poor candidates (not saying buhari is poor yet but he is heading in that direction)

Genius100:
With all due respect, your analysis is off. 80% of what you've written are simple not true. First myth is Buhari's intransigence. Buhari has actually not been intransigent. He has left the economy to Osinbajo to manage and he does not micro manage. He changed his mind on the forex peg and he's essentially let the economic team do their jobs.

Second myth is that the.ministers not being named for 6 months is somewhat responsible for the recession. If you care to know, what they did in those six months was bring in Bain to create very detailed action plans for the ministries. I have a copy of their presentation if you care to see. It is very sound but obviously hasn't been implemented ad expected.

So what is responsible for the abysmal economic conditions. First is Nigeria is a big shame of a country that wholly depended crude oil for decades. We don't even have the decency to be able to refine our crude. It is extremely shameful. If your revenue is cut by 60 to 70%, you can't avoid a recession.

Second is the gross sabotage by the Nigeria Avengers. They did way more damage than people know. Don't forget we hit our peak electricity generation before they started blowing off the gas line and crude lines. This has caused indescribable damage and Buhari has done exactly what is now needed by deploying the army and negotiating.

Third is the mishandling of the forex situation by Emefiele. Eme field is by far the weakest link I'm this government and Buhari must force him out or force him to work with the VP's office. Good news is that the VP indicated today that he is now working with the CBN on a more flexible forex scheme.

Very few people could have done better than what Buhari had done given all the circumstances. I'm confident that he will come good next year.

I agree with some of your points but below is what a serious government would have done

obiageIi:
I would have expected a buhari in his first week to hold meetings with the stakeholders (including militants) in the niger delta, show them your working plan for the next 2yrs, do same with manufacturers, business community, miyeti allah (herdsmen), ipob and co.
Send bills to the National Assembly for special court for corruption, push for PIB, emergency economy power. All of these could have been achieved on goodwill in the first few weeks.

Newmanluckyman:
... No country can ever have it 100%.United States is owing trillions in dollars. And this is the country we are all looking up to.But a responsible government won't just be blaming or start to aportion blames here and there. A charismatic govt will immediately roll out sound economic policies to mitigate those issues you just raised. Teachers have been going on strikes right from the military era till date, some states during the OBJ era even with the oil boom wasn't able to pay wages, contractors have been downing tools since the early 60's if not so our roads could have been Eldorado even before GEJ came on board , we haven't been balancing our budgets from the word go. So as you can see, it didn't all start with Jonathan neither will it even end with PMB. We need a govt that can take responsibility.

Interesting how the goal post has shifted from gej was fantastic to it had always been bad

Will Nigeria benefit from this? I don't think so, except we fix the problems in the niger delta

Newmanluckyman:
... A bad govt? During the same period your country is not in recession, internationally adjudged to be the largest in Africa, inflation rate wasn't 18% as it is today, GDP wasn't shrinking to 2.4% y/y as it is today, rice was sold 9k a bag, modernization of our railway, revitalization of our agricultural assets, sound economic blue prints, no single political killing, absence of political victimization, INEC became truly independent, etc.

My dear you voted emotionally and you're too proud to admit that. Or maybe you were simply following the bandwagon. Anyway, one thing was constant :the propaganda machine really held you SPELLBOUND.

You forgot to add 34 states could not pay workers salaries and the FG was borrowing to pay its own, contractors were downing tool and capital expenditure was at 15% under your so called booming economy

Bizibi:
GEJ was a disaster then this one should be more than a great bad omen and a disaster...... I wish you people are here in abj,shame fr nor let una talk.

Come and see coded underground corruption don't bother yourself, we are already in it,we should just try and survive till it get better,right now I don't even believe things will stabilize next year because of what I'm hearing and seeing here.

I wish you could present facts for the bolded but who am i to argue when the likes of dambazou and co are still in government

Newmanluckyman:
... So what is the purpose of this your thread if you can't learn from your judgement, mistakes,?

Purpose? Do not reward failure (vote bad governments out like we did gejs without apologies)

Do not vote an equally poor candidate like buhari is turning out to be.

Newmanluckyman:
... We warned people about the consequences of voting in a wrong candidate in 2015 general election but as you may have it, hate, emotional outburst, tribalism, ethnic sentiments took center stage. For some of us who are privileged to witnessed his first rule in 1984, we were not surprise on the current economic crisis now. A Leopard can't change its color.

Gej had to go and no apologies for it but we may have made a mistake with his replacement

I would have expected a buhari in his first week to hold meetings with the stakeholders (including militants) in the niger delta, show them your working plan for the next 2yrs, do same with manufacturers, business community, miyeti allah (herdsmen), ipob and co.
Send bills to the National Assembly for special court for corruption, push for PIB, emergency economy power. All of these could have been achieved on goodwill in the first few weeks.

careytommy7:
When I say the 2015 elections were more about emotions than logic, people think I'm trying to say I'm better than they are. Yet, the simple truth is that choosing Buhari wasn't really a logical choice. Also, hate (hating GEJ)is about emotions and not logic.

It wasn't supposed to be about whether GEJ did spectacularly well or not, but about whether the replacement was better.
This was the simple fact I tried to get my friends to see. Emotions are very powerful. Be careful what you become emotionally invested in. APC/Tinubu knows this and they spent the previous 3 years working on getting Nigerians to hate GEJ.
Hate blinds you to the truth.
People lost friends in 2015 and many don't even know why!
You allow hate take you over and it blinds you completely!!
People fought long time friends just because of Buhari, yet what is your reward? You're saddled with a recession and unfriendly govt policies; you're saddled with a denialist and irresponsible president while we actually are in need of a proactive leader.

We're all suffering because some people allowed their
emotions grow too strong. Emotions are good only when
properly channelled. Do not allow any emotion get too strong a grip on you that your brain shuts down.
We're all currently suffering because too many people
allowed that to happen.And, till date, we still have many who are so heavily invested against GEJ emotionally that they still can't see the truth.
These are the "GEJ was never an option" crowd, those who are ignoring the clarity of hindsight just to hold on to their hate.This group would rather buy $1 for N1000 and pay 5k for 1GB than countenance voting for GEJ.
This is the crowd that would rather vote for Abacha or Idi Amin or a dog or a stone than vote for GEJ.
# copied from the twitter handle @Scartissue101

Bro, i still and will forever belong to this, forget this emotion talk, you actually seem to be the one who hasn't gotten over his emotions. GEJ WAS A DISASTER.

SillyMods:
There was no way we could have escaped the recession. In fact, we were heading in that direction before GEJ left when we were already borrowing to pay FG workers salaries.

27 of 36 states were owing salary arrears of between four and eight months. NOI equally raised the alarm and warned of the impending recession when she asked Nigeria to prepare for tough times ahead.

Any truthful person who is not lazy to revisit happenings of 2014 and early 2015 will not find it difficult to agree that we would have been worse off if GEJ had remained.

Buhari's government could have handled things better especially in the first few

Kathmandu:
What has been done wiyh the 5trillion naira expended so far

5 trillion where?

zaimeg:
I don't think Nigerians are getting wise. The young people are even worse. Maybe the colonialists should have stayed a bit more . I think we should be thinking of the way forward though. No use crying over spilt milk. Nigerians have never had a good leader I dare say since time immemorial. But then, what do I know?

Interesting take

Algebra12:
You must be out of your senses for making the bolded comment.
We refused to allow him sell assets?? Did you listen to yourself??

We allowed him increase fuel price by 67.63%
We allowed him increase electricity tarrif
We allowed him render our currency useless and claimed he is recovering looted funds.
He has spent well over #8 trillion in 18 months, yet you are here yapping that we did not allow him sell asset.

Which ones did he build?

You better respect yourself.

Very funny stuff, do you have a link to back this up or you pulled it out of the usual place