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Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:53am On Sep 05, 2022
udeh3:


Are you aware that the lost topics will be taught, project students will be attended to, etc. If you don't pay them, it's simple, when the FG meets their requirements, they'll resume and when they do, they'll proceed to a new session, meaning, no results, no one graduates since they weren't paid for.

Senseless govt

Lies from the pits of hell!!!

The best a lecturer can do is to rush the students and make up for everything with two weeks of revision. Then exam!

Then they'll be high record of mass failure!

Lecturers will come to class and stamp their foot in the ground boasting of how they'll get paid whether they come to class or not.

That has always been the tradition!
Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:49am On Sep 05, 2022
Pymetrics:

But when he resumes in Month 5 to start the work of Month 3, won't you give him new additional project to combine with the work of month 3? The new project is the new student to be admitted through the last concluded jamb and adverts for pg schools. Except you will say don't take new project, only start from the existing one. And I know that parents will come in here when they see that new project which is the new student won't be admitted. They have to wait for another year again. The lecturing job is even more complex than the analogy of architect.


What is complex in spending half period to talk about your previous life experiences, and using the remaining half period to teach?
Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:46am On Sep 05, 2022
9jatriot:
I am trying to understand you.
Let us run throw 1 scenarios.

Scenario 1
You employ the services of an architect with the following job description and timeline.
Month 1: Design floor plan: Workdone: Paid
Month 2: Build the foundation: Workdone: Paid
Month 3: Do the block work: Work not done (Strike): Not Paid
Month 4: Roof the house: Work not done (Strike): Not Paid

Now let us test how logical you are. Assuming this architect now resumes in Month 5 to start work of Month 3, and tells you that you have to pay him for Month 3 and 4 but he will start the work of Month 3 in Month 5, will you as a business owner or an individual pay him?

You guys always forget that the FG is your employer and they are the ones to tell you what to do as employees.

I really wish FG can follow through with this no work no pay. ASUU is trying to use this election & students[b] to hold FG to ransom and I wish FG has the balls to call their bluff

[b]Can you tell your landlord that since you travelled for 3 months that you will not pay rent for those 3 months

Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:42am On Sep 05, 2022
Selfish union
Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:38am On Sep 05, 2022
NezzyMike:




Hahaha, no work no pay while students are languishing. Is the salary Buhari's? Let me educate you small, before a strike is embarked, government is informed thrice but Buhari who doesn't priotise education always shun them. There's money in this country, he should pay them, it is not his!!!

In reply to the bolded, the govt wouldn't take the union seriously because they are accustomed to seeing them go on yearly strikes.

If ASUU had used this same energy to pressure the government while school activities were ongoing, things may have been better.

But ASUU beleives strike will yield rapid action (How far after 6 months and counting?)

ASUU must not get a dime for all the months not worked for!
Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:31am On Sep 05, 2022
Peacefulmindz:

If you or any of your family people are lecturers you will not yan this rubbish here.
Na only them go for strike? No be ASUU force everybody go house?

Na only una family members dey support ASUU now

ASUU has lost the sympathy of 80% Nigerians

Let "No, work, No Pay" policy stand, and let's see if the union will be bold enough to declare strike next year
Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:29am On Sep 05, 2022
Ebubu:


I don’t care. We kukuma no get classrooms before. I’m supposed to have graduated last year then your 2020 strike happened, now I’m supposed to graduate last April now you’re striking into December and next year.




You waste 2 years of my life, but want me to support you getting paid for wasting my life ?

I will rather waste 2 more years than support FG paying you for those months of strike.


You were paid during 2020 strike merely because FG had sympathy owing to covid 19 lockdown.


FG can change their mind later to pay you, I won’t know. But if it were left for me as a student, I don’t support you getting paid.

My house rent is wasting and I’ll pay new one from nothing, my years are wasting but you want me to support you. Please go on with the strike, who has lost 2 years can easily lose few more months.

My joy is you will never get paid for what you had done.

They want to be pitied. Meanwhile, they lack empathy
Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:26am On Sep 05, 2022
Ebubu:


If you’re never tired of collecting loans, keep on with the strike till new year.

You fit no even see money buy bag of rice for Christmas for your kids.

I can't help but to buhahahaha grin grin cheesy grin
Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:24am On Sep 05, 2022
Bigfish121:
Imagine within the space of 3 years, they went on strike 2 times just imagine.



It's worse than you think

Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:22am On Sep 05, 2022
DevilSignature:
most I admonish you guys before you make comments here, borrow some sense even if you have none. Now put yourself in ASUU shoes, if you were an ASUU staff and your protested for irregularities in your working environment and the government turned a deaf ear, you used strike option now the government come out to say they are not gonna pay you your salaries, how are gonna feel?

Note it's legal for members of staffs under Nigerian Labour Congress or any labour union in the world to protest or use strike option called government attention in cases of non proper working environment or other irregularities, also note that throughout the six months of ASUU strike federal government has never issue a suspension letter to any of ASUU staffs branches or ASUU in general, so why won't pay them their salaries?

In reply to the bolded, if I was to be in ASUU shoes, I'll be sane enough to understand that 3 months strike is enough to show my greivances.

Wanting pay after 6 months strike means I am a theif, and I should be prosecuted, or forced to resign.
Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:16am On Sep 05, 2022
BrutusOj:
And a few other greedy people will loot the money budgeted for the salary of university lecturers abi? You can talk about them forfeiting allowances but not their salary. Do you realise that some of them have been living on credit since the strike began? Have they been feeding on grass since the strike began? If not for the irresponsible government, there wouldn't have been strike in the first place. Lett be objective when responding to issues such as this please.

We all know the govt is corrupt!


Let the government spend ASUU salary anyhow they seem fit.

But ASUU must be taught a lesson. Even if it's just this once. Are they the only one


Yearly strike since over 2 decades
Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:13am On Sep 05, 2022
babyfaceafrica:


Who will compensate the students for 7 months loss in their life? Some can't go to NYSC due to age factor.? Yet banks and other top companies will be asking of 26 years with 2 years experience!!!. ASUU always get paid whenever strikes ends, who pays the students for time lost!

The government keeps promoting more strike by always paying them before they call off strike.

Let them take away the payments, and we'll see changes.
Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:09am On Sep 05, 2022
Middleborn:


My question to the FG and whoever supports the FG in this persecution of Lecturers is, who is going to complete the backlog of work that has stockpiled since February 14?

The nature of work done by academic lecturers puts them in a position where there is a lot of work to be done in every semester from the class room to the lab to the office dealing with scripts and documents etc. In most cases, Universities are under staffed, hence the workload. If the lecturers don't do their work for 6 months, that job will be there waiting for them because unlike other kinds of jobs where you can just resume and start from current activities, the lecturers have to start from where they stopped. The students cannot for example move to the next level if they have not been taught, if they don't take their exam and have their scripts marked.

So if the FG can contract the backlog of work stockpiled since February 14 till date to someone else, then their no work no pay policy will be upheld. In fact the FG should be helping the lecturers to resolve this backlog of work that have resulted due to the striking process, this would show their commitment to education. But you see, the FG doesn't give a fvck whether the work is done or not. not paying the lecturers the six months salary would mean that they can resume and abandon the work on the table. The fact that the FG know this and has decided not to do anything about it is what should disturb the students and Nigeria as a whole.

Two weeks of revision, and exams is backlog of work? Who is responsible for the backlog of work?

I believe ASUU declared strike because the government were yet to meet with their demands, and were hoping to get rapid action when they declared strike (How far after 6 months?)


ASUU chose to declare strike because they want their voices to be heard. They took it too far by going 6 months while expecting pay.

If ASUU were patient enough to keep meeting up with government while school was in session, their demands would have been met..

But we know ASUU are used to going on yearly strike, then resume with enough salary arrears in their pocket.

The "No work, no Pay" policy must stand. That will teach the union to start thinking twice before declaring yearly strike!
Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 2:03am On Sep 05, 2022
Nezee:
ASUU is an association of Selfish and greedy individuals who thinks they can always use the Nigerian students education to fight for their selfish interests. Both ASUU and FG have no students interests. FG should stick to the golden rule ' no work, no pay' so that when next ASUU wants to embark on a strike to fight for their selfish interests, they would have to think twice! Nonsensicals!!

Yassssssssss
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:39pm On Sep 03, 2022
TenQ:

I'm sure you know that Government is a continuum.

All the money Buhari borrowed must be paid back by his successor!

So it is with negotiated deals and agreements!

Yes we know!

All the money owed by the previous administration has not been paid. Every new administration keeps borrowing.

ASUU should renegotiate the 2009 agreements with the next administration.

Or come up with a new negotiation that will be implemented with immediate effect!
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:35pm On Sep 03, 2022
TenQ:

The truth is that government is not ready to fulfill the signed agreement hence their procrastinations and delay tactics.
If ASUU excos could be easily bribed, the FG would have taken such options but nay, ASUU structure doesn't allow national excos undue powers from the state chapters

Yes! We all know all that.

But are the union ready to listen to what the government has to offer?

We know the government can't meet all of ASUU demands, but are ASUU ready to listen to what the government can do?

Let the "No, work No pay" rule stand, and let's changes in the system.
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Salary Arrears Will Promote More Strike by Oblivion34: 12:27pm On Sep 03, 2022
shortIGBOman:


God bless you Brotherly.


Fvck ASUU. We are solidly behind FG on this NO WORK NO PAY.

Paying them for work not done has served as the foundation for yearly strike.

Let the union sacrifice their salaries, just as the students sacrificed their precious time, and let's see if ASUU will be bold enough to declare strike next year!

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Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Salary Arrears Will Promote More Strike by Oblivion34: 12:26pm On Sep 03, 2022
DevilSignature:


Nairaland is free every idiot can open a thread

nairaland is free. Everyone can give their honest opinion about something without minding the critic's
Celebrities / Re: BBN Boring Since Amaka Eviction- Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:23pm On Sep 03, 2022
meobizy:
Hain, she was a bully who quarreled with every living thing in that house whenever she wasn’t gossiping. If she was the life, why was she thrown out when the chance was presented? I’m sure with time she would have fought her own reflection. Very toxic human being.


Why the hate on our precious Amaka?


The house is too peaceful. It was more exciting when she was on the show
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:21pm On Sep 03, 2022
TenQ:

The agreement was even renegotiated by the FG in 2013 and yet, the FG failed to honour their part of the agreement.

Whose fault!?

Did you hold the previous administration accountable for not honouring it's agreement?

The one who caused all this higi Haga was recently praised for ending ASUU four months strike in one night
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:18pm On Sep 03, 2022
TenQ:

No sir. There was no underground negotiation. In fact, government IGNORED ASUU until ASUU went on strike. Without the strike, Government would not have minded ASUU.

The FG is actually very irresponsible as a government.
They want ASUU to keep quiet and pretend that no agreement was signed with Government since 2009. Is that fair?

From what I read, ASUU were constantly sending out letters, memos, etc before they declared strike.

I beleive the government did not respond to all of those memos, and letters because they understand that it is that time of the year for ASUU to go on strike.

It's a every year thing!
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:15pm On Sep 03, 2022
sultan003:


Your analogy does not apply to an academic environment. But even if we are to go there, there are two scenarios

1. I stop work and the project is paused, whenever i resume you, i continue from where i paused the project and you will pay me for the work i am doing

2. I stop work, the project continues because you hired another person to continue the job, whenever i resume, you will pay me from the point i resumed.. no one in his or her right senses will demand pay for a job done by someone else

In summary, you don't get it and will never get it, so leave matter for those that can comprehend....

So you are agreeing to the fact that the government should always hire interim lecturers to teach when ASUU declares strike.

That way they can go on strike for as long as they want, and will agree to not get paid at the end?


You are brilliant!
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:13pm On Sep 03, 2022
Niklaus398:
never say never. I might be one day and get to rule you.
I'm far better citizens than you cause I don't lick the president ass. People like you are demonic. You know the president is wrong but you support him.

And ASUU are pure?

From the comments I have read so far. ASUU are not different from bandits who hold people as ransom from the government
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:11pm On Sep 03, 2022
janvier27:
I'll pick only one item, earned allowance. Lecturers are owed the peanuts earned allowance for years. The only times they got paid some amount was when they went on strike. Now they went on strike and it took over three months before government agreed to talks. Now we are saying they should not be paid for the strike forced on them. Truly we deserve the government we have.

The government has been engaging them in discussions since the first month the union declared strike.

The government stopped showing concerns because of the annoying demands of the union.

The strike was not forced on them. They chose to pause work while waiting for rapid action from the government.

The "No work, No pay" rule must stand!
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:06pm On Sep 03, 2022
JJuanMiguel:

ASUU thought it was the right time to strike and ask for 180% rise in pay cos of election cheesy

I can't help but to buhahahaha cheesy grin grin grin grin

There's a 50% chance that their demands might have been considered if the president was planning to run for a second term.

But the president is leaving, and may never pursue any political ambitions in future.

If I were ASUU, I'll take what the government has to offer, and see how it goes from there!
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:03pm On Sep 03, 2022
Niklaus398:
hate and envy for a failure? If I was the President I would have done a better job. Heck, even a bby can do a much better job.

Is the president doing a better job in the economy? Kerosene is now 1k per liter, amongst other failures of the government.

The government is failing in every sector of the economy.

We all are affected, not ASUU alone!
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:58am On Sep 03, 2022
We4all:


Read to understand and read well. I cannot be explaining every sarcasm that I post.

It's not sarcasm. You are not the first person to compare ASUU holding student's for ransom to kidnappers holding people for ransom from the government.

I have seen similar comments on diverse social media platform (excluding Nairaland)

If that's how you people reason. Then shame on you all!!!
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:52am On Sep 03, 2022
Godoverevery:


Where is your own proof

The moment you admit this ASUU strike is for selfish interests the better for you.

If ASUU wants to be honest let them post there demand out on the media but I know they can't because it major about there salaries and welfare.

I have an uncle who is a lecturer and he is my source.

I have never seen a union so selfish, and arrogant!
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:50am On Sep 03, 2022
fergie001:

So, who was President in 2020?
So they now negotiate demands yearly or biennially?

The FG should come out and say we will accept this one and not accept this one. This pattern of theirs isn't helping @ all.

ASUU's pattern of yearly strike is not helping the educational system either!
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:48am On Sep 03, 2022
loko50:


Whatever you typed here has no meaning

Wrong!

This is the politics section. And I beleive we have political juggernauts here who are taking notes of at least 20% of everything that is made mention here.
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:47am On Sep 03, 2022
loko50:


Increased salary by how many percent. Compare that to Prof. Briggs report. Be objective

I don't care to know the figures in the Briggs report. The government has said this is what they have to offer.

You either take it while asking for slight increase or you leave it.

Stop stressing this!

And again the "No work, No pay" clause must stand until the very end.

It should be a sacrifice for the cause, and we will always remember it.
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:42am On Sep 03, 2022
garfield1:


A little salary increment

Half bread is better than none.

Is it not slightly better than the former?

It is going to get better. Change takes time

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