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Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:40pm On Sep 25, 2022
sultan003:


Let's watch and see

We are already seeing it...

You should watch out and wait for the end of the Almighty union that never ceases to mark every year with strike

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Education / Re: What Next After ASUU Loses In The Appeal Court -- Asuukiller by Oblivion34: 11:29pm On Sep 25, 2022
Jessewizy:
It surprises me how people just wake up and create stupid threads. If you’re not a lecturer, you’ll not understand the plights of these people. ASUU have been crying in time past about how the government keeps reneging on agreements but we all look away like it doesn’t concern us, but when they strike, fools starts calling ASUU bad names.

You are not bad, yet you mark every year with strikes. Resume and rush students, with two weeks revision, and exams, and repeat the process the following year.

While you get paid in full for staying at home and frustrating students.

Glad to know the union has finally met it's waterloo, and glad to know everyone is starting to see how selfish and self centered the union is.

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Education / Re: What Next After ASUU Loses In The Appeal Court -- Asuukiller by Oblivion34: 11:26pm On Sep 25, 2022
budaatum:


Call off the strike and educate you for free and with no pay?

I hope you know that if you pay peanuts only monkeys would apply, and last time I checked monkeys teach nonsense.

Please know that you can not steal the education in my head without compensating me because I am far too educated for that. If I weren't you wouldn't be asking me to educate you.


The government was not owing lecturers salary before they declared strike.

The union chose to go on hunger strike, and was okay with it because they wanted this and that

The only money that the government owes the union is minimum wage salary arrears, and we all know it takes time to process that.

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Education / Re: What Next After ASUU Loses In The Appeal Court -- Asuukiller by Oblivion34: 11:22pm On Sep 25, 2022
AsuuKiller:
There has to be a better way to communicate lecturers interests rather than the "Stone age" methods of strikes and Blackmail .

Similar to bandits that kidnap Innocent people and demand ransom

I have seen ASUU union members say "Why will government pay bandits and not pay them?"

That's their mentality

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Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:25am On Sep 23, 2022
sultan003:


Going great..��

New session loading!!!

Do your worse. You will all be disgraced in the long run
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:48pm On Sep 21, 2022
sultan003:



Win what? Lol! Did they win their case last year against NARD when they implemented the same policy?

Please do some research before you come out in public to state unknown facts.


How's it going?
Politics / Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:46pm On Sep 21, 2022
Lanretoye:
can u imagine this from someone who hasn't even graduated.your level of reasoning correlates with the quality of education u have,thats what aasu is saying.the government you are supporting can't even send their children to nigerian universities.
If the only thing you know about the cause of the strike is salary increament,just drop out if u are in the university.

Who said I am yet to graduate?

I am currently running my 3rd degree program.


I am not supporting anyone. All my points are unbiased.

You have no business with whether the government children are not schooling here. You can also send your kids abroad if you can afford it
Politics / Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:43pm On Sep 21, 2022
9jatriot:
Even though you have made very strong points, there is no need for FG to go to court on the matter. They should just implement the no work no pay and keep it at that.

They should also ask the VCs of all the universities to declare their universities open for any lecturer that want to resume. Once this is done, you will see many of the lecturers who are not part of the executives feeding fat on the strike will begin to resume.



There's no need to go to court.

So ASUU will demand for their withheld salaries before they call off strike.

Then they will have the balls to declare 5 years strike tomorrow because their paycheck is guaranteed in the long run.

The union claim to be intellectual, but they are the opposite


At least for once FG has shown them that they are still their superior, and not the other way around!
Education / Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:39pm On Sep 21, 2022
Ebubu:


if industrial court this friday, orders ASUU to resume amidst continued negotiation with FG, what will ASUU do?

The almighty ASUU has finally been disgraced

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Education / Re: ASUU Strike: After These 2 Conditions, We Are Ready To Call-off Strike– Prof. Em by Oblivion34: 1:10am On Sep 16, 2022
Seefinish:
If are a student in any of our federal universities and your are at home; and your father is busying shouting APC and Tinubu upandan, please kindly go for DNA test to be sure whether that man is your real father or not

What's ASUU problem with APC?

PDP was in power for over 3 decades and they could not stop ASUU from striking almost every year.

Please shut up if you don't have anything sensible to say

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Education / Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:07am On Sep 16, 2022
JJuanMiguel:

Even some state universities that voted for indefinite strike have now resumed.

ASUU will resume after they've been disgraced.

They are too big to beg because they have PhD.

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Politics / Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:03am On Sep 16, 2022
immortalcrown:
You are the one writing out of context. I never mentioned the law in my comment. I just said the case will be handled by Nigerian judges in a Nigerian court. You responded as if I claim you misinterpret the law.

What's your point?
Education / Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 8:08am On Sep 13, 2022
JJuanMiguel:

So if you think FG don't care if the strike ends or not, why is ASUU still on strike then?

It's almost as if they are been sponsored by a different political party to paint APC black.

Because they always make emphasis on voting out APC whenever the union makes a statement.

As if APC was in power from 1992-2013 when they recorded 21 years of strike.

1992-2013= 21 years

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Education / Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 8:01am On Sep 13, 2022
Ebubu:


if industrial court this friday, orders ASUU to resume amidst continued negotiation with FG, what will ASUU do?

They'll have no choice to RESUME or be ready to bear legal consequences.

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Education / Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 4:15am On Sep 13, 2022
henrybomb:

Who is bank rolling you to do this?
Remember FG don’t care if the strike ends or not they don’t even care about anything in general.

They have all their children abroad so it means that people who can’t afford that luxury will have to sit back and look until the strike is over. ¹

Have you ever seen past presidents or governors or head of states protest over non payment of their salaries? None

Did you see their reaction the last time aviation sector wanted to go on strike? They quickly sorted it out ²

FG don’t have money bla bla bla but they used billions of naira to purchase SUVs to Niger Republic...so whoever thought or suggested that FG should sue ASUU is just adding more salt to a deep and painful injury..I rest my case.

Why are varisty lecturers comparing theirselves with politicians?

All of your points do not hold water because they are not enough reason to hold students down for more than 6 months.

It's not as if the government was owing the union monthly salary before they declared strike aside the minimum wage arrears, and the need for salary increment.

The government don't care because they have their children abroad. We agree! ¹ But most lecturers pushing for this strike either have their children abroad or they no longer children schooling.

Most professors do not care if the strike last for 5 years because they don't have their children schooling here. Stop blaming the government. ¹

The ones at the receiving end are junior lecturers who are just starting their career, and the students.

Speaking on how quick the government came to the aid of the aviation industry. I know for a fact that they've not been striking since the 90's! For over 3 decades, ASUU has a record of over 24 yearly strikes. Are varsity lecturers the only civil servant in Nigeria?[/b] ²

The No Work, No Pay policy will end all of those rubbish!

ASUU are slowly loosing respect, and attention because we know they must mark every year with a strike. Even during waves of the global pandemic, ASUU still declared strike to show how insensitive, arrogant, and self-centered they are.

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Politics / Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:00pm On Sep 12, 2022
immortalcrown:
Leave the law out of this argument. The law does not implement itself. Talk about the court and the judges. How competent and just are they?

You are writing out of context.

Let's go by the book (Law). A policy is a policy, and no body can say they were not aware. They chose to keep stressing the strike, while expecting to bear the consequences

If we are to also judge by competency. How many professors are competent enough to lecture? Most of them can't even mark scripts by theirselves because they are too old to see clearly.

How many professors come to classes to lecture?


Nobody is perfect
Education / Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:50am On Sep 12, 2022
Anigreat:
shocked


Let's tell ourselves the whole truth, this is a war ASUU cannot win.

That's because they can't claim ignorant of the policy since March.

Politics / Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:47am On Sep 12, 2022
YeyeGbami:
Obo n gbe obo pon.

If they are asking for 150%, give them 75% make dem use hold body first.

75% is still much.

50% is reasonable enough!
Politics / Re: Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:46am On Sep 12, 2022
immortalcrown:
Na still Nigerian court and Nigerian judge go handle am for court. In conclusion, na the same thing.

The law has no respect for anybody.

ASUU cannot claim ignorant of the policy since march.

Education / Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:38am On Sep 12, 2022
The federal government has sued ASUU since they have been unreasonable with negotiations.

They have been unreasonable since day one such as seeking over 150% salary increment and adopting a self-designed payment platform among others.

I want the government to understand that ASUU is a loser! And they can't win this case anywhere.

They are very much aware of the "No Work, No Pay" policy.

A Policy is a deliberate system of guidelines to guide decisions and achieve rational outcomes. In this case, FG imposed this policy to put an end to yearly strikes from ASUU.

Because ASUU is now accustomed to striking for as long as they want. Then they'll resume, get paid for all the months they did not work for, and then come stamp their foot in the ground in lecture theater while claiming that "they'll get paid irrespective of whether they come to class or not"

The union will show no concern for students who will lose passion for schooling, diversify into crime, etc.

The FG should not be intimidated by how many SANS ASUU has hired to defend them. It is "NO WORK, NO PAY" and not "No work, Get Paid Later"


A policy is a policy!

Let the government stand with this until the end, and let's see if we won't end ASUU yearly strikes!

The best FG can do is to give them one month's salary, because all the backlog of work they claim they'll do is not up to a month

It is always two weeks of revision, and two weeks of examination. Then students will fail, and many students will digress from bagging a good grade. That is the usual tradition, and why most 2.1 students will end up bagging 2.2. (I stand to be corrected!)

They can't win this case anywhere. I support the motion because ASUU is arrogant while always comparing itself with politicians.

What business do you have with how much the federal government is paying bandits for holding humans hostage? Why are they applying the same strategy in pushing their demands?

What business do they have with how politicians are living, or how they spend their money?

The federal government has done all it can to end this strike, but ASUU is the one that chose to stress this strike while using the government's flaws against them to gain public sympathy.

We've seen how ASUU members are always quick to insult people who are against them, and we've once seen their president insult the minister of labor on live TV. That's evidence of their arrogant nature while pressing their demands

ASUU should be made to understand that you don't DICTATE to your employer. It's never done anywhere!

The best you can do is to beg and ask for better working conditions. If you say you want a 180% salary increment and the government says we can only afford to give 25% you are expected to beg, and not prove superior to your employers.

ASUU is not willing to beg. They believe they have equal rights with politicians, and they keep displaying their arrogant nature.

We've all seen how ASUU members are always quick to insult anyone against them or anyone who advises them to try other approaches.

For example, we've seen the ASUU president insult the minister of labor on live TV. That is evidence of how arrogant they are when on the negotiation table.

The federal government cannot overdo it because federal university lecturers are not the only civil servants in Nigeria.

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Education / Re: Another UNIBEN Lecturer Commit Suicide Over Financial Issues - ASUU Strike by Oblivion34: 11:29am On Sep 12, 2022
They should continue proving superior to the federal government because they have PhD

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Politics / Suing ASUU: A Smart Move To Ending Strike & Reoccurrence Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:26am On Sep 12, 2022
The federal government has sued ASUU since they have been unreasonable with negotiations.

They have been unreasonable since day one such as seeking over 150% salary increment and adopting a self-designed payment platform among others.

I want the government to understand that ASUU is a loser! And they can't win this case anywhere.

They are very much aware of the "No Work, No Pay" policy.

A Policy is a deliberate system of guidelines to guide decisions and achieve rational outcomes. In this case, FG imposed this policy to put an end to yearly strikes from ASUU.

Because ASUU is now accustomed to striking for as long as they want. Then they'll resume, get paid for all the months they did not work for, and then come stamp their foot in the ground in lecture theater while claiming that "they'll get paid irrespective of whether they come to class or not"

The union will show no concern for students who will lose passion for schooling, diversify into crime, etc.

The FG should not be intimidated by how many SANS ASUU has hired to defend them. It is "NO WORK, NO PAY" and not "No work, Get Paid Later"

A policy is a policy!

Let the government stand with this until the end, and let's see if we won't end ASUU yearly strikes!

The best FG can do is to give them one month's salary, because all the backlog of work they claim they'll do is not up to a month

It is always two weeks of revision, and two weeks of examination. Then students will fail, and many students will digress from bagging a good grade. That is the usual tradition, and why most 2.1 students will end up bagging 2.2. (I stand to be corrected!)

They can't win this case anywhere. I support the motion because ASUU is arrogant while always comparing itself with politicians.

What business do you have with how much the federal government is paying bandits for holding humans hostage? Why are they applying the same strategy in pushing their demands?

What business do they have with how politicians are living, or how they spend their money?

The federal government has done all it can to end this strike, but ASUU is the one that chose to stress this strike while using the government's flaws against them to gain public sympathy.

We've seen how ASUU members are always quick to insult people who are against them, and we've once seen their president insult the minister of labor on live TV. That's evidence of their arrogant nature while pressing their demands

ASUU should be made to understand that you don't DICTATE to your employer. It's never done anywhere!


The best you can do is to beg and ask for better working conditions. If you say you want a 180% salary increment and the government says we can only afford to give 25% you are expected to beg, and not prove superior to your employers.

ASUU is not willing to beg. They believe they have equal rights with politicians, and they keep displaying their arrogant nature.

We've all seen how ASUU members are always quick to insult anyone against them or anyone who advises them to try other approaches.

For example, we've seen the ASUU president insult the minister of labor on live TV. That is evidence of how arrogant they are when on the negotiation table.

The federal government cannot overdo it because federal university lecturers are not the only civil servants in Nigeria.

Politics / Re: FG Slams ASUU, Insists On No-Work-No-Pay Policy by Oblivion34: 12:11am On Sep 06, 2022
NezzyMike:




If they are not paid, that is what will happen. But why did this wicked govt allow it to linger to this extent? They were more engrossed in their political career than ending the strike earlier.

ASUU also shares the blame on this

Asking for 180% of salary increment is called what?
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:08am On Sep 06, 2022
sultan003:


Nothing go happen, 2021/2022 session will be wiped off, no need working for something they will not pay..

Everything will start from 2022/2023 session or 2023/2024 session depending on when the strike is called off




Sounds fair!

At least everyone will get to see who you really are- A selfish and self centered union

Let everyone start afresh, heavens won't fall
Education / Why Are ASUU Comparing Theirselves With The Government?- Oblivion by Oblivion34: 11:52pm On Sep 05, 2022
It's no longer news that ASUU declared a strike on February 14, while hoping to get rapid action from the government.

The union is always focused on using yearly strikes to attack the government & the educational system.

The union is also known for using government flaws to gather public sympathy. They have however shown that they have no sympathy for their beloved students by not calling off strike since the government met over 60% of their demands!


The union has always slammed the government for how they spend money on other irrelevant things, rather than channeling the money at them!

For example, the union recently slammed the government for increasing tour allowance for politicians by over 50%

Although the union keeps trying to get public sympathy, we all know ASUU is greedy and selfish with its demands. But they have no right to question how the government spends money.

For example, we've heard the union push for 180% of salary increments, amongst other ridiculous demands. That means a lecturer earning #100k will start receiving #280k

They want to receive the same salary as politicians but don't have the balls to pursue political ambitions.

Someone said "most politicians can't sleep with their two eyes closed because of fear of the unknown"

Someone also highlighted the difference in numbers between politicians and university lecturers. For example, three universities may have more civil servants compared to the total number of prime ministers, and perm secretaries.

Is it then fair to compare how the government increases its earned allowances?

While some lecturers are agitating about the need to go on tours, most people kicked against the idea.

Someone said "Stop eying the living standards of politicians,
If you want money quit your job and join politics.

There are no civil servants in Nigeria that are more privileged than university lecturers."


While some people added that the union's envious natures towards politicians will get them nowhere, he advises them to quit the teaching Profession and joins politics so that they will earn money like them.

While majority calls for the dissolution of the union since they have done more harm than good to the educational sector with their yearly strikes!

ASUU keep forgetting that university lecturers are never on the same level as the government, and as such, they have no right to compare how the government spends its earnings.

The union has no business with how the government carries out its daily activities such as sponsoring neighborhood countries, increasing its allowance, etc.

It is best to also remind the union that:
(I) There are other civil servants with poorer working conditions and salaries. Yet we don't see them going on yearly strikes
(II) The government pays ASUU members, and not the other way around.
(III) ASUU president is not a god that should be worshipped, and the government can choose to fire him and render him jobless tomorrow.
(IV) The government can choose to order compulsory resumption, while defiant lecturers stand a 90% chance of losing their jobs


The (III) & (IV) points above show that the government isn't as bad as everyone thinks.


(V) They only get paid for services rendered: A major reason why the "No Work, No Pay" policy is "Legal".

The union is accustomed to using the key point "They don't care, because their children don't school here" to gather public sympathy and slam the government whereas the union has been unreasonable with its frivolous demands since day 1.

It is fair to also say that most ASUU members don't care about how long the strike lasts because the majority of their children are in private universities or abroad.


Meanwhile, the newly elected NANS president keeps making waves about how he's going to end the strike. Someone should ask how much he has in his account before anything.

I am #Oblivion

Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 3:20am On Sep 05, 2022
Heterodox:
And get paid doing it.

Nobody is paying me to do anything (Although I don't mind some incentives)

It hurts you that I write the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

No Work, No Pay!!!

Besides the government initiated the policy one month after the strike. The union can't claim that they were not informed.

Federal government will win this case if it was to be tabled in front of a court of law
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 3:14am On Sep 05, 2022
JJuanMiguel:

Unfortunately, this same thing you said is what ASUU also believe,that's why they were shouting indefinite for about a week before declaring it to see if it will cause some panic or put pressure on FG, but as they can see, nobody has their time again . But the thing here is that they won't be paid, Adamu said the order was from Buhari.

If ASUU are ready to wait for the next administration to start negotiating their salaries around next year August, maybe they will have a chance. But I'm sure even a new admin won't just come and then agree to pay ASUU a backlog of almost 18 months.


Let's see how this plays out since their president is so smart in leading them into shame and irrelevancy
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 3:10am On Sep 05, 2022
Niklaus398:
Me and you knows the fg will succumbs whether today or tomorrow is immaterial but they will still pay that money. . so why postpone the evil day?

Paying that money has been the landmark for yearly strikes.

Let the government do something different, and we'll see a new structure in academic activities.


Selfish union!
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 3:08am On Sep 05, 2022
Niklaus398:
ASUU is fighting for their rights. What belongs to them.

Keep fighting, I hope you win!

Merry and Christmas and happy new year in advance grin grin grin angry angry

If you like fight for 5 years.

But...

The "No Work, No Pay" policy must stand!
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 3:05am On Sep 05, 2022
sultan003:


The first semester exams was just about to start before this strike, once the strike is called off exams will start

The academic calendar will be followed simple

We've seen other schools call off strike and start exams under short notice.

It will be no different when ASUU decides to call off strike.

They don't deserve a penny!
Education / Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 3:00am On Sep 05, 2022
sultan003:



It is called negotiation for a reason. Both parties must negotiate to meet at a neutral ground...

The reason why this strike is taking time is because both parties are failing to meet at a neutral ground.

Those (the various student associations) that are meant to act as a "catalyst in the chemical reaction" are busy enjoying their holidays at home. If ASUU comes out tomorrow and accept the fees proposal by FG, that is only when they will act..


It's called negotiation for a reason, but must the union be unreasonable with it's demands?

The way I see it, the Union choose to stress this strike while blaming the govt for not caring.

That is one of the reasons why I support the "No Work, No Pay" policy

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