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I have some few questions for you sir:

1. Who instigated the violence that erupted in those two states?
Was it a post election violence?

2. Are killings taking place in the country under this regime or not?

3. How many times have you personally addressed the killings in strong terms as you're doing now sir?

4. How many persons have been arrested in connection with the killings and how many have been handled judicially?

Yankee101:
Established by Goodluck

This Goodluck tried to do for them but them say no. Them no want am.

Now they're going back to his programmes

A place as bushy as this with no single buildings around, is filled with computers?
What about their security?
This one na arrangee school?

In less than 2/3 months time those computers will varnish without a trace.

Skynet45:
we are the most accommodating ethnic group in Nigeria, but the flat head and ndi developers are spoiling our land

They is nothing like Yoruba Muslims we are all Yoruba first . Flat heads created Yoruba Muslims nickname to divide us but it won't work.

But don't you think what Muric oga is doing will polarise the Yoruba nation the more?

Because he's not fighting for Yoruba rights but Yoruba Muslims right in particular and Nigerian Muslims in general.

What do you think?

leokid866:
But he has not held any political office since his governorship.....so what is the problem here.....a man cannot just be a respected elder statesman in peace anymore?

What we're saying is that whoever is in charge in Lagos is a puppet.

Look at how he handled Ambode matter.
He refused to allow Ambode to go for a second term.
Is that the way it is supposed to be?
He decides who takes what and who does not.
It is not fair. Now the Lagos east bye-election coming up, he has drafted Tokumbo from Polaris bank as if there are no people in the party.
Now he'll have to force him down the throat of everyone.
My uncle and many others are not happy with him with the way he's handling Lagos affairs.
Very soon there will be revolt within the party and he'll be shocked.

leokid866:
I'm not against him I'm just coming against the rhetoric that Tinubu should not be allowed to run Lagos politics because he is not from Lagos....if you don't want him running in Lagos politics find another excuse to stand on or add the same comma to otedola.

What we're saying is he don try nau.
Na since 1999 he dey in charge o.
Na only him dey?
Let others come on board and continue from where he'll stop.

This was your first post which i replied that none of these states are in bondage.
I also told you that no stranger is managing the affairs of these states like Lagos who is under the grip of one man ( a stranger) whereas the bonafide indigene are there.

oyatz:
Amen!!!

But when will Abia, Bayelsa, Delta and Enugu be liberated sir?

oyatz:
How old are you sir?

This your post clearly showed you don't what you are saying.

There's no need engaging you further in this discussion. Bye

And now you asked how old I am.

Well if you must know, i worked with Johnny Industries by Total Filling station Ikorodu road at Ojota in Lagos as their store keeper back in 1993 - 1996 b4 i gained admission into the University of Benin in 1997 to study engineering.

After my graduation, i returned and later became their general manager before i left to set up my private outfit.

As a Network engineer, i travel a lot.
I've been to every state in Nigeria.
So i know exactly what am saying.
Now am in Delta state, and those things you mentioned about those states are totally false.

Who told you Delta state for example is in bondage?
Or any of the states you mentioned for that matter?

I can tell you authoritatively that Delta is free from the shackles of one man dictating what happens unlike Lagos where a total stranger lord it over everyone including the indigenes.

By the way how old are you and where do you reside to make such a zany statement?

leokid866:
I'm not saying he should not become governor, but you will not disenfranchise one man based on one critic and take it out for another that is my point here.....Tinubu that you are claiming is from Osun was he not governor for eight years?

He was.

Then why are you against Otedola?

The reason we're having this disagreement is because you're against the candidature of Otedola.
Nothing more.

leokid866:
sorry which way you want dey carry matter now....
And as for my sisters sons rolling and handling our fathers property what is there Was not Eluru Kutis sons that took over the kingship of Lagos....Oga when you fixate on these small small things that's how you impede progress....life is not that hard stop stressing over it....toba tò si wòn lowò may God guide them in its management, I've been taught at an early age that it's only people who don't have their own that end up fighting and killing themselves over their fathers property....so oga go get yours and teach your children to get theirs.

Think carefully of what i just told you about Otedola.

mo ti sọ fun ọ

o jẹ oṣiṣẹ afiyesi

o ti pegede si oye lati di gomina

leokid866:
So his father was a governor overshadows the fact that he had a ghanaian wife and a half ghanian son? See its not an issue where someone is from neither does it impede their abilities to contend or run.....but if you are going to use one measuring stick for one person be sure to use the same for the other.....all I'm saying.

Before you can be a King in Nigeria, you must be a male descendant before you can ascend the to the throne.

Otedola's parents are Lagosians.
Otedola is of patrilineal descent, a male child of Lagos state.
He is a male descendant.

But Tinubu is not.

He is more qualified to rule and be in control of Lagos than 1,000 Tinubus.

To illustrate:

As you are now, will you allow your sister's sons to rule you and have control over your father's properties and inheritance even if your wife is from Canada?

Godfatherism is applied upside down in Nigeria's political landscape.

And it has eaten deep into the various aspects of our lives.

And unless what happened in Edo is replicated across country, we're going no where.

This was what Rawlings singlehandedly did in Ghana and you can see the results.

Ghana is a pacesetter in almost all indices.

Wow FTC!!
What's my reward?

leokid866:
no his mother is.....if you will fault Tinubu for been from Osun you should be able to stand fit and accept the candidate you putting forward is not fully Nigerian.

Yet his father was a governor of Lagos state.

Tinubu is from Osun state.

Let him go control his state.

tollyboy5:
So his father is a Ghanian ! I'm done with you. You don't have anything to say ogbeni

Hahahaha.

They keep coming with flimsy excuses.

One thing is clear.

Tinubu time is up.

Rugaria:
Keep massaging your ballooning ego... Most sophisticated, exposed, blaa blaa blaa blaaa.... Yet one MC Oluomo decides your politics...., Yet one man collects your taxes straight to his pocket.... People don't take you guys serious anymore with that sterile rants... You haven't noticed? The emir of Lagos must be dethroned! Simple!

Let them rant.

This is a movement and it must be achieved by any legal and genuine means possible.

Slowly slowly, he's losing the power grip at the centre.
They're tired of him.

He must be retired to his home state Osun.

Ayed44:
This is how some people said Obaseki is a lagos boy and cannot survive the onslaught of the trio of Oshiomohle, Okunbo and Ize-Iyamu who are all grassroot politicians. You may not like Otedola but I can assure you that Lagosians are getting fed up with Tinubu and a time is coming that Lagosians would prefer any alternative to Tinubu's dynasty and the alternative could be Otedola. Who knows?

Things are now changing very fast and we need to brace up for more surprises.

No mind them.

We will keep screaming until Lagosians realise that one individual who is not even from the state us sapping the state dry.

He should be rejected together with his candidates.

Then and only then we can say Lagos is truly free.

#Tinubu no own Lagos!!

oyatz:
Amen!!!

But when will Abia, Bayelsa, Delta and Enugu be liberated sir?

Abia, Bayelsa, Delta and Enugu aren't in bondage.
Let me prove it to you.


Orji Uzor Kalu who was the then governor of Abia state is now in APC.

Timipre Sylva who was the governor in Bayelsa is also in APC.

Emmanuel Uduaghan who was the governor of Delta state is now in APC.

Ken Nnamani who was the senate president and his brother the then governor of Enugu state are both in APC

They all know that these states are free.

This is different from Tinubu who is from another state (Osun) but has claimed Lagos and cornered it to his own.

This is totally unacceptable.

The narratives have to change this time.

ShinnBet:
One of Tinubu's dredges has spoken.

You will follow him back to your state in Osun so that he can do the magic he did in Lagos.

Otedola is Lagos.

We often cry to high heavens when we hear that some foreign bandits are grabbing lands from indigenous people up North..

Now someone who is from Osun had seized the whole of Lagos state and cornered everything to himself and family.

My question now is how is he different from those land grabbers?

He must be booted out of Lagos back to his home state Osun.

It is a collective task we must achieve.
Yes we can!

#Tinubu no be Lagos

jericco1:
Hope as he is gallivanting from place to place congratulating these dignitaries, he shouldn't forget about those at the grassroots because they need a qualitative standard of living.

After the small break due to the election, contractors are back to site in my area.

SilverNorGold:
Obaseki should thank God that President Mohammadu Buhari is the one in power and not Obasanjo or Goodluck Jonathan, else Pastor Ize Iyamu would have been the chief supervisor of that election, dressed in DSS uniform.

Obaseki and the PDP should thank God that Nigeria has a President who acts like a father to all, irrespective of your party, state or philosophy.

The best elections ever in Nigeria were all done under the watch of President Buhari.

This should tell everyone, including the enemies of Nigeria, that President Buhari is a man of peace, man of integrity and man of the people.

He's neither interested in Silver and Gold nor Oil and fame. All he's interested in is the wellbeing of the masses.

God bless the President.
God bless the Patriots.
God bless Nigerians.
God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Jonathan did better than this during Oshiomhole's reelection in 2012.

Hear Oshiomhole:
Gov. Adams Oshiomhole of Edo on Sunday described President Goodluck Jonahan as a statesman and a man of honour.

Oshiomhole, who made the statement at a world press conference in Benin, attributed the peaceful conduct of the governorship election in Edo on Saturday to Jonathan’s determination to enthrone credible democracy in Nigeria.

“ I want to appreciate Mr President with his resolve and public pronouncement that he would provide adequate security for the people and the INEC staff before, during and after the election.

“I am glad that Mr President kept to his words of assurance that there would be no thuggery, hooliganism and violence during the Edo Governorship Election.

He said that the president had led by example, which is the hall mark of a statesman.

“He is indeed a statesman, a man of honour because there was adequate and effective presence of security agents on ground.

“I am impressed because the army actually played a neutral role .in the election,’’ he said.

http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/oshiomhole-to-jonathan-you-are-a-statesman-a-man-of-honor-dedicates-victory-to-edo-people/

There was no single gunshot, no thuggery, no ballot snatching and so on.
But last Saturday in Edo, there were gunshots, where one person died and several others were wounded.
Ballot boxes were snatched.

I agree that under Buhari, this is the only election that has a measure of credibility.

But van this be said about the 2019 general election?
How about the Kogi, Kano, Osun, Plateau.
I was in all those states i mentioned except Plateau state.
What happened in Osun was terrible.
I was in Ede where the daylight robbery took place.

Finally,if what you said that he's not interested in this and that is true, let him resign from being the Petroleum Minister, a portfolio he promised to head for only 18months (1 year and 6 months) but he has been there since 64 months (5 years 4 months) now with no positive impact.
Rather what we have seen is astronomical increments (more than twice now) in prices of Petroleum products.
So if truly he is a man of integrity, he would have quit the office to fulfill his promise.

https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/buhari-why-president-will-head-petroleum-ministry-for-18-months/s6knpev.amp

PS712:
Thank you. You grabbed the exact thought I had when I saw this piece of news. It's not even long the FG announced that decision on no FX for fertilizers, barely three weeks and now announcing subsidy..
If they have forgotten, we haven't.

What do you expect?
Can one give what he doesn't have?

He's ordering the reduction in prices of goods. Let him continue and we'll see where it will take him.

A government that likes ordering people around.
There is what we call micro economics and the forces of demand and supply.

I have never seen anywhere in the universe where a President determines the prices of commodities like fertiliser.
And we still see some people referring to him as "darling daddy", "sai barber", "Mr integrity" etc.
To now think that some of these persons are graduates still baffles me.

sodiqapril:
These short Chinese devils are busy making enemies with everyone, US, UK,JAPAN, INDIA, AUSTRALIA, GERMANY in fact most of Europe what a nice way to become world power

This shows that their end is near.

They cannot become world power because the Anglo/American world power is the last world power.
No country can dethrone them.
Not even China.

My response to that guy/girl hiding behind his/her keyboard is found below.
Till now he is yet to reply me.

Nyanabo:
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You are a bigger fool than I thought. Its your type that see's black and call it white. Since 2015 till date what has this government done for the average nigerian ?

They promised to stop medical tourism how far ? electricity nko ? inflation and $1 to 1 NGN nko ?? How much recovered loot have they accounted for ? Where did the monies go to ? What was it used for ?

Better speak the truth or forever remain in your shame.

Those of us who were old enough to witness your "darling daddy's" regime in 1984/85 knows what we're up against.

And if your analysis is anything to go by, fuel subsidy has been removed since 2016:
This was the link where this government said fuel subsidy has been removed back in May 2016.

https://dailypost.ng/2016/05/13/why-buhari-removed-fuel-subsidy-osinbajo/

Do you agree?
If you agree and every sane Nigerian also agree too, how much have been saved so far since 2016?
This same government provides the answer.

https://m.guardian.ng/news/fuel-subsidy-removal-nigeria-saves-n15-4-billion-monthly-says-osinbajo/

15.4 billion naira saved monthly.

Now 15.4 billion naira times 4 years i.e 48 months, this is equal to
#739,200,000,000 i.e 739 billion, 200 million naira.

Recovered loot by this government since 2015
https://qz.com/africa/700036/nigeria-says-its-recovered-9-1-billion-in-looted-funds-but-wont-name-the-culprits/

I.e 9.1 billion dollars times 420 naira =

$9.1×#420=
#3,822,000,000,000
i.e 3 trillion, 822 billion naira.

Abacha loot returned under Buhari since 2015:
https://allafrica.com/stories/202002160175.html
308 million dollars plus 322 million dollars

$308,000,000 + $322,000,000 = $630,000,000 × #420 =
#264,600,000,000,000

I.e 264 trillion, 600 billion naira.

GRAND TOTAL

#739,200,000,000 + #3,822,000,000,000 +
#264,600,000,000,000 =

#269,161,200,000,000

269 trillion, 161 billion, 200 million naira
Did you see the number of zeros?

And yet we keep making money everyday from oil and other commodities.

So the question is where has this money gone.
His five year budget is not more than 50 trillion.
Then where is the balance of over 200 trillion naira?
Yet we keep borrowing even to fund our annual budget.
There is no need to even to go into foreign loans that have been borrowed by this administration.

So kindly stop all these conjectures and surmises.

Propaganda will surely take you nowhere.

anigbajumo:
..That subsidy na total scam, na naija we dey even if na PDP Dem go loot am but the problem is if government allows private investor to takeover the full importation of refined petroleum products hope u know they will sell at their convenient price and oil is a very essential commodity.. The best solution is for FG to seek for Loan through BOT and fix the refinery and build more.

Exactly.

post=93555771:
In as much as she is making so much sense with these words,
The main thing we are against is the timing of the increment,
It shouldn't be at the time of this pandemic at all.

But do we trust our darling Daddy that this subsidy money is safe with him rather than the one that told all Sane Nigerians to their faces that STEALING IS NOT CORRUPTION.
The one that his Minister of Petroleum looted BILLIONS of dollars and ran away from Nigeria since 2015, when PMB became President.
Same frog-eyed thief that some of her jewelries,
wrist watches, ear rings, gold and diamond chains seized from her are all worth a staggering 40000000(0) million dollars
(Children of hate, count how many zeros we have there and tell sane and honest Nigerians how many you counted!)
She stole all those BILLIONS without fuel subsidy removal, just one opolo eye woman, imagine the trillions these thieves looted collectively, especially if they were allowed to remove the subsidy back then!
[b]Oh Yeaaaaa, we trust our darling Daddy to safe guard our money than the previous criminals!!
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But right now, We and all sane, hardworking and honest Nigerians SAY NO TO FUEL PRICE INCREMENT.


For emphasis sake,

This is not the time to increase fuel price in our darling nation at all.

Not with all that is going on around the world, pandemic et al,
When people are finding it difficult to survive.

This is the same reason we voted out the party of thieves and criminals.

This is not the change we voted for.

The same way we sane, honest and hardworking Nigerians praised this government when they reduced fuel price sometimes ago, we should make sure we put our voice together to castigate and talk against this.

That is the voice the government will listen to,
Not the voice of children of hate, frustration and perdition that have never seen any good thing in our country,
That all they do is to wail continously in life.
They even wailed when the price was reduced.
They have been wailing since PMB won the election, even before swearing in!
They are not wailing for the common man like sane and honest people are doing, but they are wailing in pain that the corrupt money being shared to them by the losers they support is not forthcoming anymore.
They have been so used to corruption, they see it as a way of life.
That is what we stand against.

Sane, honest and hardworking Nigerians,
Let us come together to Say no to this fuel increase, definitely not at this time and ignore enemies of the country that want the evil politicians they voted for to remain in power together.

This is not the change we voted for.
Something must be done about this NOW!
God bless Nigeria.

We Rise

You and who?
Rise to where?

Those of us who were old enough to witness your "darling daddy's" regime in 1984/85 knows what we're up against.

And if your analysis is anything to go by, fuel subsidy has been removed since 2016:
This was the link where this government said fuel subsidy has been removed back in May 2016.

https://dailypost.ng/2016/05/13/why-buhari-removed-fuel-subsidy-osinbajo/

Do you agree?
If you agree and every sane Nigerian also agree too, how much have been saved so far since 2016?
This same government provides the answer.

https://m.guardian.ng/news/fuel-subsidy-removal-nigeria-saves-n15-4-billion-monthly-says-osinbajo/

15.4 billion naira saved monthly.

Now 15.4 billion naira times 4 years i.e 48 months, this is equal to
#739,200,000,000 i.e 739 billion, 200 million naira.

Recovered loot by this government since 2015
https://qz.com/africa/700036/nigeria-says-its-recovered-9-1-billion-in-looted-funds-but-wont-name-the-culprits/

I.e 9.1 billion dollars times 420 naira =

$9.1×#420=
#3,822,000,000,000
i.e 3 trillion, 822 billion naira.

Abacha loot returned under Buhari since 2015:
https://allafrica.com/stories/202002160175.html
308 million dollars plus 322 million dollars

$308,000,000 + $322,000,000 = $630,000,000 × #420 =
#264,600,000,000,000

I.e 264 trillion, 600 billion naira.

GRAND TOTAL

#739,200,000,000 + #3,822,000,000,000 +
#264,600,000,000,000 =

#269,161,200,000,000

269 trillion, 161 billion, 200 million naira
Did you see the number of zeros?

And yet we keep making money everyday from oil and other commodities.

So the question is where has this money gone.
His five year budget is not more than 50 trillion.
Then where is the balance of over 200 trillion naira?
Yet we keep borrowing even to fund our annual budget.
There is no need to even to go into foreign loans that have been borrowed by this administration.

So kindly stop all these conjectures and surmises.

Propaganda will surely take you nowhere.

Soon your voice will no longer be heard.

chukel:
This shows you don't even understand the concept of subsidy. If you did, you wouldn't say federal government increased petrol price. Its controlled by the landing cost of imported petrol.

Are you minding that one who will not make a single comment without making reference to "children of hate" and "children of perdition" when in actual sense his description fits himself.

If one keeps supporting a government that is suppressive and authoritative,then that person is the real enemy of the state.

Those of us who were of age back in 1984 know better.

jornwhite:
I live in nigeria, and know nigerians & govt like the palm of my hands, i know all those theories you know, buh forget it these is nigeria it does work like that, so many internal & external factors won't let it. for a nation that is not producing enough for export there is no better days ahead.
A quick one, they banned importation of foreign rice, b4 that a congo of premium rice sells for #700 now imagine a local rice sell for #850 today. the last time i wanted to buy i have to go for foreign because d difference doesnt make sense.
Electricity privatization sounds good to every ear,since they privatized what as changed, infact nigerians now pay more for darkeness. If you think dangote refinery wil sell fuel less than #140 you can as well hope bread & sardine will drop from the sky.
Leave all these theoretical permutations for undergraduates & lecturers ... @these point common sense will fix this country better, on issue of electricity lets decentralize n let every state generate it light 100% ... a stable power supply would definitely improves our economy & also pushes a decrease in demand for PMS. you know d rest

You're absolutely correct.
All hypotheses, theorems and applications defy working in this geographical location called Nigeria not because they cannot work but because there are people who fight tooth and nail to ensure they don't work.
These bottle necks are everywhere here.

abramelin11:
The entire APC supported and still supports total removal. Months ago, Osinbajo assured us that subsidy has gone for good and will never come back. What is then responsible for this sudden jump in price?

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This was the link where this government said fuel subsidy has been removed back in May 2016.

https://dailypost.ng/2016/05/13/why-buhari-removed-fuel-subsidy-osinbajo/

Then in December 2016 this government told us that they saved #15.4bn monthly from subsidy removal.
https://m.guardian.ng/news/fuel-subsidy-removal-nigeria-saves-n15-4-billion-monthly-says-osinbajo/

Now where are all these Moines saved over the years (15.4 billion naira × 48 months?)

Here we are in 2020, four years later and they're again removing another subsidy or what?
How many times will they remove subsidy?
Why the increment in petroleum pump price?
Those of us who were old enough in 1984 aren't surprised at all.
More of these dramas ahead.