₦airaland Forum

Wawelexy:
Ok sir, most of the companies u mentioned sir are still in operations with even more staffs compared to those days...and the few that left wasn't his fault but the federal government policy that wasn't fair on them.

About the schools, u only mentioned the ones u knew about(google can do justice to that).

And for the IGR u mentioned, only a competent governor can achieve that.

Yes again, He could hv done more but lets give it to him for the ones he's done sir...

Thanks

Wawelexy, what i told you about the schools is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Quote me any day.

Secondly on the industries,i only replied you because you said he set up industries in Lagos. I have never seen any. Rather,the ones we had are leaving. The list is endless.
True, the federal govt policies are largely responsible for their exit.

But our corrupt nature is another reason.
Go to Philips Nig. Ltd and ask of why the Whites left and created Philips Project Centre ( PPC) at Kofi Abayomi Street, V.I at a time when we had the first black man (an Ibadan man named Oloko) as the first Managing Director.
His driver was a Prince popularly called Omoba.
All the whites were frustrated, oppressed and they left Philips and set up a new one as stated above.

The main reason (98%) is CORRUPTION.
I know exactly what am telling you.

This does not mean that we don't have honest Nigerians who are corrupt free.

fergie001:
People absolutely have no respect here.

Obodogri...Thank you for your inputs, Sir.

Fergie, it is a thing of joy to state the obvious else our country will suffer for it.

People will definitely hit you hard as a result. But no matter what, i believe that truth is constant and must be told.

Once again thank you for your sincere commendation.

ovieigho:
Lol

General hospital
Schools ?

Is that all?

He ran the state without federal allocation which allows multiple taxation / over taxation of lagosians

Even more taxes with the use of Agberos
Computers were crying but Tinubu and mC oluomo are smiling to the banks

Lands owners in Lagos are groaning but Tinubu and his cronies ( Sanmi eludoyin) hold sway of all the real estate biz in Lagos

Many are victims. And when one speaks they brand you Ipob from the South East or even South South.
Am a Lagos man and these things are true.
Thanks

helinues:
Then be smart with your comments on NL...No pun intended....

Not a supporter/can never be of Tinubu's presidency by it get as how we for handle the issue on social media

I understand @ the bolded helinues.

But i am smart.
It isn't wrong to disagree with others when you believe they're subverting the rules, is it?

That's me 4u.

Wawelexy:
Oh! I see....

Don't allow him to mislead you.
I am an established gentleman taking after my father's legacy as a technocrat.

I don't depend on stipends to live and perhaps him or one of his may have benefited from my programs.
If he sees me one on one, he can't shake me let alone make such damning comments about me.
What is more this is a social media.
I stand for social justice no matter whose ox is gored.
Who recommended Oshiomhole to him before he was made APC chair despite what Edolites feel that he betrayed one of his own (Oyegun). Go to the streets of Benin and other cities and hear them speak.

You see, as a leader it is important you listen more to people without necessarily insisting on one's own preference which is what worked against Oshiomhole and the exact thing is the bane of who we have been talking about since.
When we said don't make a video to Edo,did he listen? But we all saw the result.
Why has he not made one to Ondo?

So if am crucified for saying the truth, then how can justice reign in the land?

Did i call anyone a thief from our discussion? Rather i was only quoting you who said and i quote "...... he stole openly."
Did i say such? Even when one appear on live T.V or on the internet like this it imperative one doesn't blab.

Anyway,there is no need to join issues with him.
Good day.

helinues:
You knew so much history about Lagos but care not to know about your region...

Who are you exactly deceiving?

What region?

I am from Lagos (Omo Ile) helinues.

I don't make comments without stating the facts and obvious.
Am not a typical one that rants.

tricksters:
You foolish soul never desist from making foolish comment on NL. Tinubu stole who is a politician in Nigeria that did not steal ? If your father whether in hell or hellfire was ever a governor in Nigeria he would have stolen 3ce what Tinubu stole and won't have performed 1/10th.

Even Buhari that is called Mr Saint told we all know what Atiku said about him bring 12 briefcase loaded with dollars. We know we must not open Atiku's book that one is a diehard criminals and his choice of deputy in Peter Obi is the biggest criminal that will ever grace the path of Nigeria history.

Imagine as a sitting governor Peter Obi looted Anambra state fund to build himself the biggest mail in Abuja and many foolish Igbos castigating Tinubu for building hotel long after he was governor of lagos state have refused to condemn the God forsake criminal that will never do good along with every mwnber of his household dead n unborn. Just imagine if Tinubu tried such.

Their father keep wailing like lunatic because a Tinubu that does not hold any political office brought bullion van to his house but the like of Theodore Orji looted Abia ground into ground charging 100 million monthly as security vote but no foolish soul from the region is able to speak up. Ebele, a sitting president flying a helicopter filled to the brim with dollar to Fayose house on election eve don't get a mention in their hypocrisy but a private citizen with bullion causes they agonizing pain n agony daily. Awon oloriburuku omo chukunduki.

Nigeria should go for an angel pls tell us is your father the angel that should be allowed to rule Nigeria ? What as your saintly father accomplished compare to Tinubu and other criminals like Atiku Peter Obi Ekeweremadu Orjis Umahi Ikpeazu n the rest you chose not to open your foolish n cursed mouth about ?!

I don't want to believe that you're a demented soul but it beats my imagination that you rain insults on me for no just cause.
I have never and will never call one a thief except if the courts declare such.
And if you check my previous posts,at no time did i call anyone a thief. I was only quoting the individual who i quoted and you can see the inverted commas plus that the individual said so himself.

Having said that,you have also accused other governors of other extraction calling them thieves.
So what difference is there between you and those accusing the Lagos ex governor?

I am a bonafide indigene of Lagos and i have worked with him at one time or another.
It would be wrong of you to believe that everyone is corrupt. Even in Nigeria i can tell you that we have corrupt free individuals (Angels so to speak) even in government and the earlier we look for such people to run the affairs of this land the better for us.

So I'll advise you to check my profile to know who i stand for.
I don't insult or insinuate or even jump to conclusion.
Fashola is my friend and is also an ex governor too.
Same with Osinbajo who was AG of Lagos is now the VP.
But have you wondered why their names rarely come up when negative issues like these are being discussed?
Think if you have a reasoning faculty and stop spewing what you don't know.

Wawelexy:
Ok..

General hospitals was reformed during his tenor in LAGOS.

Dilapilated government schools were renovated and some where newly built.

You can tell me sir, that the lagos u knew in the 70's is same as now in terms of good roads, economy, and infrastructure.

Compare the numbers of industries we have then to now

The only governor to run a state without the federal government allocation for more than 4years...

Sir, the man is a crook but yet he has developed lagos no doubt.

If ur arguement is that lagos ought to have gone far than this, then am in total support, but saying he did nothing is just being hypocritical....

Thanks

I've edited my post. So kindly see the entire post.

Having said that, I will confidently tell you that we have more industries back in the days than now my dear.
Have you heard of Philips (Nig) Ltd, Leventis, UAC foods, textile industries, Michelin, Dunlop, Peugeot Automobile(PAN), Sanyo, Ajaokuta and Aladja steel companies? These were reputable firms that employed millions of our teeming population compared to what we now have.
Many of those schools and hospitals you referred to were renovated by Fashola himself.
Tinubu built only for millennium schools and they are

The Abibatu Mogaji Senior Secondary School, Agege, was commissioned on March 1, 2002, by Tinubu in the Agege area of the state. The other three commissioned during that era were the Bola Ige Millennium Senior Secondary School, Ajeromi-Ifelodun; The Millennium Senior Secondary, Egbeda, and the Babs Fafunwa Millennium Secondary, Ojodu.
He renovated a few but Fashola did most of the work.
Talking about his allocation which was seized by Obasanjo,to me it was insignificant. Do you know how much he was realizing as IGR? About #10b-#13bn every month. No be small money.
He could've done more my friend.

https://m.guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/tinubus-millennium-schools-going-the-way-of-others/

Wawelexy:
In as much as i don't support Tinubu presidential ambition, i still believe he's not the most corrupt leader Nigeria has..

Yes he stole openly but also developed the state more than any governor Lagos state has ever produced...

Lets not be hypocritical here, there's no saint among the politicians, once u become one, there's already 50% assurance that u will tell lies, not because u re a lier but because of the system in which politics is being played in this part of the world...

If we still have the same political party and the same calibre of people we still have now, even if an Angel is been chosen as the flag bearer of any of this parties, corruption will still continue if not on an increase rate.

So why not lets tackle this from the root by scrambling this set of corrupt minded people, instead of focusing on the ambition of just one of them.

If Tinibu does not become the president of Nigeria, someone loyal to the caucus would be.

A devil u know is far better than an unknown angel... The current rulling party has already laid down some legacy for development, so if by 2023, the opposition is oppurtuned to vote dem out, they would abandon most of the projects the previous administration has commenced, and it will take dem some years again to lay their own legacy hence, the growth of the nation is been pulled back, so tell me, when are we going to be developed as a nation. And the circle continues like that... Till when my fellow Nigerians?

Its high time the noble youth of this nation step up and get to action( the strong and non conterminated ones only). Nothing will change if we keep mute and do nothing....

God bless Nigeria....

I was of age when in 1978 when comodore Ebitu Ukiwe became governor here in Lagos state.
Please can you mention the developmental strides of Tinubu that earned him the best governor in terms of development in Lagos state according to you?

I don't know how old are you.
But are you're saying he performed better that Lateef Jakande, who took over from Ukiwe in 1979 and Buba Marwa who ruled Lagos state before Tinubu?
Did he even perform better than Fashola?

Secondly,you agreed that Tinubu stole openly.
Is that the kind of person you want to project to be the president of this great nation?
Don't forget that a former president said "stealing is not corruption" and Nigerians including Tinubu condemned him and voted him out.
Now is it the one who "steals openly" we should now vote in?
Remember,that this government (and Tinubu a key figure) came to power on the mantra of fighting corruption. And now one who "steals openly" should become president? Then where's the corruption fight? Then what happens to ethics and morals? Will they be living by example?
Your assertion that the "Devil you know is better than the Angel you don't know" this is a wrong statement and you cannot find this in any book of morals whatsoever. Rather, it should be the devil you know is better that the devil you don't know.
So for me and other sane Nigerians,it is better we go for an Angel whether known or unknown.

Besides, what makes you feel that if an opposition party emerges a ruling one, they will abandon the projects embarked upon by this government?
The railway projects by this government under Buhari were initiated by Jonathan if you can remember. So that your argument doesn't hold water.

Let's be objective in our reasoning if we want to make any positive impact in our value system.

I have only two questions to ask.

I will provide the answer to the first one while you help me provide the answer to the second one.

1. Who is the Minister for Science and Technology?

Answer: Dr Ogbonaya Onu


2. Who is the President and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces?

Answer:??


Keep your answers coming.

Solatium:
Presidency is not a family inheritance,you don't expect him not to have opposition,the steep the opposition is the more the contest become interesting.
point me a candidate that always get the presidency on a platter of gold,just only one ooo and I will cite you countless candidates that got it with so much opposition.
The fact you are present at the wedding does not mean you know what will end negotiation.


I can tell you come 2023 Asiwaju will be president of Nigeria, except death takes,him or Nigeria split's before then.
The fact that it has been zoned to the Southern Geopolitical zone of Nigeria even makes it easier for him.
Wy do you think everyone keeps fighting him you inclusive if his chances are not brighter?

Everyone seem to be fighting him because he has fought almost everyone too.

2023 is not far.

The end shall justify the means.

Solatium:
I am sorry to say this is not a sound political analysis if this is what you come on TV to talk,
because Tinubu wasn't in eagle square for independent celebration he has been schemed out,is he a government appointee? is he a serving member of the cabinet?
His presence adds or take nothing away from the celebration,it is not a political events, it's a national celebration.
Obj, Abubakar and ibb wey suppose dey no come,wetin come be Tinubu own?
I still talk am,you no Sabi politics

At no time did i say he was schemed out, let's get that fact straight.
All am saying is that he will try but will not smell the seat.
This is a public forum and i can't divulge such details here.
He is aware of the grand plots against his candidacy and it was a topic of discussion in that wedding ceremony.
I was there at the event myself.

So keep calling me names but unfolding events will justify my assertions.

Kindly bookmark this conversation and by 2022/23 i will personally unearth it.

Solatium:
That was why I said you are a political neophyte,you think political structures are built over night?
I pity you.
Why do you find Ribadu and Atiku children marrying each other?
why did you find Asiwaju at the wedding?
Upon all Wike and Fayose's madness have you ever find them abusing Asiwaju Tinubu?
Small pikin dey worry you.
Come February 2023 you should be ready to swallow your whole body,not your head alone.
Moving ooooonnnnnn

I think if you see me one on one, you can't dare call me small pikin.
Of course you may have seen me on your own TV screen. But i tell you confidently without mincing words that what you wish for will not become a reality.

Have you ever seen Wike abuse Buhari?
Why was Tinubu not there at the Eagles Square?
Bookmark this message of mine and quote me if your permutation becomes a reality.
I will also remind you of this post.
If we close eye open am, 2023 don reach.

Solatium:
A region that single handedly Initiated a political movement that the almighty North embraced for the first time in the history of Nigeria has no influence?

A region who Initiated the defeat of an incumbent president,first in the history of Nigeria is no longer influential?

The same man that started the movement is still alive and waxing stronger politically and you are here saying the influence is gone?

You are obviously a political neophyte, political strategies and winning are not done on social media,they are devoid of emotions and tribal sentiment,they are been done on the field,those who possess the magical wand still have them.
when the time comes una go chop am,but for now go siddon

Nobody is disputing your argument.

But no one is looking at direction because those indices will die by 2023.

If that man ever mount that coveted seat, i will swallow my head.

egopersonified:
I have planted ugu twice in my back yard, failed both times, I planted the third time yesterday and prayed for them

It may also be that the soil is too hard.

Try till the soil to loosen the ground and plant the seed by making the pointed side face downwards.

Mulch the plant using grasses too.
This will help protect it from excessive heat.

Multi-million dollar question which both sane and insane Nigerians are unable to answer.

Hardtalk:
Your salvation is questionable. Tell them to live a righteous and holy life and not follow those whose source of faith is only known to GOD.

Those people who worship the Sun goddess have no inheritance anywhere.
They rejected God and Christ.

See what God, creator of the Heavens and Earth said about those who bow down to the East in Ezekiel 8:15-18.

"15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD’S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.
18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them."


Now here's my question:
Which religion practices what is mentioned above?

nengibo:
That guy is Muslim, that's how he makes everything a Christian vs Muslim affair, despite the victim being a pagan

Don't mind him.

Even the Ese Orurun i mentioned was impregnated and has delivered a baby for the said Yinusa and the baby should be about 4years old now.

And that guy was just spewing thrash.

Thank you my brother.

GOTVee:
As a born again Christian who is meant to speak the truth at all times, i encourage all our Christian brothers to emulate our Muslim counterparts in their decent way of life. Even though I'm a born again Christian, i have never seen a Muslim that will impregnate a Christian.

What of Ese Oruru who was impregnated and abducted from Bayelsa State by Yinusa Dahiru to Kano and converted to Islam?

Do your findings b4 misleading people you hear?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Ese_Oruru

FarahAideed:
I was mocking that Buharist [center][/center]

Noted

FarahAideed:
Do you know how much they pay in Dubai for Electricity ? You people want good thing but can't pay

Do you know the world class services, job opportunities plus the good standard of living and robust economy in Dubai compared to naija where nothing is working?

IamCookie:
Almost every administration in Nigeria na scam...except Abacha ( ignoring laundering money thingz)

Why?

Na him own bad pass o.

kilonshele101:
still doesn't prove anything

Just prove yours asap

leokid866:
He handled Ambodes matter abi Ambode was handled for him....if you don't know say you don't know, Ambode stepped on so many toes and they told him point blank they would rather stand behind Agbaje than Ambode. in that situation what did you want him to do? Up until the primaries his daughter kept campaingning for Ambode to keep his goat while he signed in Sanwo Olu with the stakeholders, Or you think your the only one whose uncle is a politician in Lagos......I haven't heard my uncle talk bad about him and he is currently actively campaigning for him and Shaheed so I don't know where you are getting your own news from....but true some people will be feeling one way but that one is expected.....they will be fine last last......or you've forgotten they've collapsed every faction in Lagos into one.....last last they will air their grievances and get appropriate supplementation to calm them.....this is politics remember.

Your conclusion is far better than your introduction.
Just like you opined, many there are that aren't comfortable with a whole lot of things.

There are things not worth mentioning here cos it's a public forum.

leokid866:
Or is your uncle part of the people hoping he will draft Ambode into the mix so as to compensate him for 2019......cause I heardrum Ambode was making some funny moves like that.

Ambode is not in the picture

kilonshele101:
You actually knows nothing.

o ṣeun mr mọ gbogbo rẹ

Sammy07:
Bro truth is it can never happen if n Yoruba land.
Religion Is the last thing in Yoruba.

My town is 90% Christians yet, we celebrate lots of traditional festivals in a year.
it can't just work

A Yoruba man cannot kill his wife, friend or parents because of religion, it's not possible.
Take a 2weeks trip to the west and see for yourself

I stayed in Lagos, Okun-Owa and Odogbolu towns in Ogun State most part of my life.
So i know exactly what you're saying.

My fears really is this monster called Muric.

There's a report some weeks ago that Isis abi Boko Haram gave them some money, a report later debunked by Prof Akintola.

Ngozioma:
[color=orange]Never Ever underrate Abia State.

Poverty rate in Nigeria
Copied.

Borno 99%
Kebbi 98%
Yobe 98%
Sokoto 96%
Jigawa 95%
Zamfara 95%
Katsina 94%
Gombe 93%
Adamawa 92%
Bauchi 91%
Taraba 88%
Kaduna 80%
Kano 75%
Kogi 66%
Nasarawa 55%
Plateau 46%
Abuja 35%
Osun 34%
Niger 33%
Ekiti 32%
Kwara 25%
Oyo 21%
Ondo 17%
Benue 15%
Eboyi 14%
Ogun 12%
Edo 11%
Beyelsa 10%
Cross river 10%
IMO 10%
Enugu 9%
Anambra 8%
Lagos 8%
Abia 8%
Delta 8%
Rivers 7%
Akwa Ibom 7%
Lagos and Abia State are on the same level as far as Nigeria Economy is concerned.[/color]

No mind them

Just give them the source make them go dive rock.

Philipponzaghi:
What are we going to do about Ikpeazu?

I heard he turned Abia into a shit hole and he doesn’t even have the luxury to go out of the state because I heard he will sink into potopoto infested roads if he dare to go out.




Liar liar! All of Abia is a shithole with pigsty environment both federal and state roads.

There are lot of states that sometimes construct federal roads and the government will reimburse them later so what is Ikpeazu’s excuse?

You guys are slaves to PDP, even if they burn all the state to the ground, the Stockholm syndrome will still show.

But i thought you said you heard and now you're judge the Governor with hearsay.

The person on ground replied you but you called him a liar.

Why you be like this?

Verify the information by going there and post live pictures from your visit.

Na so i think o.

Skynet45:
I don't think it affects us anyways. Nobody regards muric as serious and their followers are little

You may be right though.

But this was how Yusuf, founder of Boko Haram started.

He was ignored in the beginning until things got out of hand.

Same modus operandi is what am seeing too here w.r.t Muric.

Notasyouthink:
Leave helinues to keep on wallowing in ignorance his problem is now at its peak without him knowing.

Something tells me that guy is on the payroll of the terrorists.

Or is he one of them?

He only defends evil all the time.

That's their mode of operation.