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baralatie:
Then explain the executive powers of the military government as listed below
i am pasting this comment from your thread;

THE FEDERAL MILITARY GOVERNMENT hereby decrees as follows:

Subject to the provisions of this Decree, Nigeria shall on 24th May 1966 (in this decree referred to as ‘the appointed day’) cease to be a Federation and shall accordingly as from that day be a Republic, by the name of the Republic of Nigeria, consisting of the whole of the territory which immediately before that day was comprised in the Federation.
2.

As from the appointed day—

the Federal Military Government and the Federal Executive Council shall be known respectively as the National Military Government and The Executive Council;
the Federal territory shall be known as the Capital territory;

the provinces, including Kaduna capital territory, in schedule 1 of this Decree which immediately before the appointed day were respectively comprised in Northern Nigeria, Eastern Nigeria, Western Nigeria and Mid-Western Nigeria shall be known respectively as the Northern group of Provinces, the Eastern group of Provinces, the Western group of Provinces and the Mid-Western group of Provinces;
for the purpose of administration each group of provinces shall subject to the authority of the Head of the National Military Government, be under the general direction and control of a Military Governor appointed by the Head of the National Military Government;
Act No. 20 of 1963 (that is to say the Constitution of the Federation) may be cited as the Constitution of the Republic.
Without prejudice to section 8 of this Decree, the person who immediately before the appointed day holds the office of Military Governor of a Region shall be deemed to have been appointed by the Head of the National Military Government as Military Governor of the corresponding group of provinces with effect from that day.
The National Military Government may either conditionally or unconditionally delegate to a Military Governor of a group of provinces power to make laws by edict for peace, order and good government with respect to any matter specified in the delegation in relation to that group of provinces.
Subject to this and any other Decree, a Military Governor of a group of provinces may exercise by way of edict or, as the case may be, by regulation, order, or instrument the powers and functions vested in the Executive Council of the Government of a former Region, or of the Governor, Premier, or Minister (except in relation to criminal prosecutions) of a government of a former Region under any existing law with respect to that group of provinces; and accordingly sections 3 (2), (3), (5), (6), and (7) and section 4 (6) of the Constitution (Suspension and Modification) Decree 1966 (in this Decree referred to as the ‘principal Decree’) shall cease to have effect.
Subsection (4) shall be without prejudice to section 8 of this Decree, and the repeal by that subsection of any provision of the principal Decree shall not affect the operation of that provision in relation to any time before the appointed day.
Any Edict made by the Military Governor of a Region which is in force immediately before the appointed day shall, as from that day, have effect as a Decree applying only to the group of provinces which corresponds to that region; and references to a Decree shall be construed accordingly.

baralatie:
Then explain the executive powers of the military government as listed below
i am pasting this comment from your thread;

N[b]orthern Nigeria, Eastern Nigeria, Western Nigeria and Mid-Western Nigeria shall be known respectively as the Northern group of Provinces, the Eastern group of Provinces, the Western group of Provinces and the Mid-Western group of Provinces;
for the purpose of administration each group of provinces shall subject to the authority of the Head of the National Military Government, be under the general direction and control of a Military Governor appointed by the Head of the National Military Government;

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Is this not sufficient proof that Ironsi didn't abolish the regions? Again in the parliamentary system weren't the premiers not subject to the authority of the Prime minister? if that is the case, what was the difference with what Ironsi did?



THE FEDERAL MILITARY GOVERNMENT hereby decrees as follows:

Subject to the provisions of this Decree, Nigeria shall on 24th May 1966 (in this decree referred to as ‘the appointed day’) cease to be a Federation and shall accordingly as from that day be a Republic, by the name of the Republic of Nigeria, consisting of the whole of the territory which immediately before that day was comprised in the Federation.
2.

As from the appointed day—

the Federal Military Government and the Federal Executive Council shall be known respectively as the National Military Government and The Executive Council;
the Federal territory shall be known as the Capital territory;

the provinces, including Kaduna capital territory, in schedule 1 of this Decree which immediately before the appointed day were respectively comprised in Northern Nigeria, Eastern Nigeria, Western Nigeria and Mid-Western Nigeria shall be known respectively as the Northern group of Provinces, the Eastern group of Provinces, the Western group of Provinces and the Mid-Western group of Provinces;
for the purpose of administration each group of provinces shall subject to the authority of the Head of the National Military Government, be under the general direction and control of a Military Governor appointed by the Head of the National Military Government;
Act No. 20 of 1963 (that is to say the Constitution of the Federation) may be cited as the Constitution of the Republic.
Without prejudice to section 8 of this Decree, the person who immediately before the appointed day holds the office of Military Governor of a Region shall be deemed to have been appointed by the Head of the National Military Government as Military Governor of the corresponding group of provinces with effect from that day.
The National Military Government may either conditionally or unconditionally delegate to a Military Governor of a group of provinces power to make laws by edict for peace, order and good government with respect to any matter specified in the delegation in relation to that group of provinces.
Subject to this and any other Decree, a Military Governor of a group of provinces may exercise by way of edict or, as the case may be, by regulation, order, or instrument the powers and functions vested in the Executive Council of the Government of a former Region, or of the Governor, Premier, or Minister (except in relation to criminal prosecutions) of a government of a former Region under any existing law with respect to that group of provinces; and accordingly sections 3 (2), (3), (5), (6), and (7) and section 4 (6) of the Constitution (Suspension and Modification) Decree 1966 (in this Decree referred to as the ‘principal Decree’) shall cease to have effect.
Subsection (4) shall be without prejudice to section 8 of this Decree, and the repeal by that subsection of any provision of the principal Decree shall not affect the operation of that provision in relation to any time before the appointed day.
Any Edict made by the Military Governor of a Region which is in force immediately before the appointed day shall, as from that day, have effect as a Decree applying only to the group of provinces which corresponds to that region; and references to a Decree shall be construed accordingly.

Deadlytruth:
Gowon's own broadcast to the Nation on the occasion of his creation of states makes it crystal clear that the creation of those states was inspired by the need to stabilize the country through acceding to the demands for far reaching decentralization of powers to allow the minorities have control over their own affairs as they had been agitating for years. Gowon was himself from a minority within a minority so he understood better hence couldn't but just make centrifugal decrees unlike Ironsi who made centripetal decrees because, being from a majority tribe, didn't care or feel concerned about the legitimate fears of the minorities.

Find Gowon's speech below:

https://www.dawodu.com/gowon.htm

Please note the parts of the speech which read as follows:
......To this end I agreed with my other colleagues on the Supreme Military Council to the promulgation of the
Decree No. 8 which completely decentralized the government of this
country and even went further than the Republican Constitution as it existed before 15th January 1966......This is why the item in the Political and Administrative Programme
adopted by the Supreme Military Council last month is the creation of
states as a basis for stability. This must be done first so as to
remove the fear of domination. Representatives drawn from the new
states will be more able to work out the future constitution for this
country which can contain provisions to protect the powers of the
states to the fullest extent desired by the Nigerian people........The country has a long history of well articulated demands for
states. The fears of minorities were explained in great detail and
set out in the report of the Willink Commission appointed by the
British in 1958. More recently there has been extensive discussion
in Regional Consultative Committees and Leaders-of-Thought
Conferences. Resolutions have been adopted demanding the creation of
states in the North and in Lagos. Petitions from minority areas in the East which have been subjected to violent intimidation by the Eastern Military Government have been widely publicized

Deadlytruth:
Gowon's own broadcast to the Nation on the occasion of his creation of states makes it crystal clear that the creation of those states was inspired by the need to stabilize the country through acceding to the demands for far reaching decentralization of powers to allow the minorities have control over their own affairs as they had been agitating for years. Gowon was himself from a minority within a minority so he understood better hence couldn't but just make centrifugal decrees unlike Ironsi who made centripetal decrees because, being from a majority tribe, didn't care or feel concerned about the legitimate fears of the minorities.

Find Gowon's speech below:

https://www.dawodu.com/gowon.htm

Please note the parts of the speech which read as follows:
......To this end I agreed with my other colleagues on the Supreme Military Council to the promulgation of the
Decree No. 8 which completely decentralized the government of this
country and even went further than the Republican Constitution as it existed before 15th January 1966......This is why the item in the Political and Administrative Programme
adopted by the Supreme Military Council last month is the creation of
states as a basis for stability. This must be done first so as to
remove the fear of domination. Representatives drawn from the new
states will be more able to work out the future constitution for this
country which can contain provisions to protect the powers of the
states to the fullest extent desired by the Nigerian people........The country has a long history of well articulated demands for
states. The fears of minorities were explained in great detail and
set out in the report of the Willink Commission appointed by the
British in 1958. More recently there has been extensive discussion
in Regional Consultative Committees and Leaders-of-Thought
Conferences. Resolutions have been adopted demanding the creation of
states in the North and in Lagos. Petitions from minority areas in the East which have been subjected to violent intimidation by the Eastern Military Government have been widely publicized

Deadlytruth:
Likewise, we never had regions under Ironsi because his constitution didn't recognize them. The arguement that what Ironsi said is different from what he did portrays him as a confused weakling. However, we know that a decree takes effect at once. Check Ironsi's national broadcast and see where he himself said so. I hope you know that a decree is different from a promise. The states created by Gowon had more autonomy far more than the provinces Ironsi created. Gowon's States were not reporting to him at the center unlike Ironsi's provinces which he ordered to be reporting to him at the center. I repeat again Ironsi was the one who abolished federalism, if not why was the reversal of all Ironsi's decrees the first item on the agenda which all the would be participants in Aburi meeting mutually agreed to?

baralatie:
Ironsi kept regions ?
Something that was already abolished?

VenumX:
She will forever be remembered for this...

baralatie:
Meaning ironsi abolished the regions and installed a unitary regime nah!

Enkidu70:
You're totally, completely delusional

People have pasted copies of the decree document on here and you read the actual provisions of the text. Is it a lie that Ironsi promulgated decree 34?

GUNITGuy:
Aguiyi Ironsi Abolished the regional government this was what provoked the north .....As soon as they got Ironsi out of the way ...Gowon didn't reinstall the regions back then Ojukwu got angry and threatened a secession or confederate states

Dekadet:
What does the symbol of a dragon on the flag used in wrapping her coffin signify? am just asking o

ElSudani:
That video will hunt Obi even after being defeated. He is a wolf in sheep clothing.

Yukov:
What else will Peter Obi use for campaign after spending 2terms as governor with no achievements to show for it.

By the way, when will Obi condemn the activities of his brothers in the east.
Senator Ifeanyi UBA was almost killed yesterday. Only God knows his state presently.
But he won't condemned that. Tinubu is his problem.
A tribal bigot oshi.

Dsalvo:
Why are you Obidullards such irresponsible kids? Is Deji not right to be disgusted by Obi's highly irresponsible, divisive and ethnically incendiary id1ocy.

Publicly reading a whatsapp message that could have been created by anyone, perhaps even Obi himself, for any purpose whatsoever to include deliberate and cynical effort to fraudulently make Tinubu look bad while stoking up the fire of tribal division.

Something Obi has a history of. Well, we will remind you in future that Obi drew the battle line because Igbos never note the provocative actions of their leaders alike Ojukwu, Kanu etal.

They only know to cry and play victim once the consequences of their rash and foolhardy behavior is at their doorstep.

GUNITGuy:
This was formulated by the lawyer Ben Nwabueze....

Enkidu70:
History

You can't argue with history, and it's totally unethical, the way you guys struggle to rewrite it every day that God brings. Let's be honest with each other as much as possible

SmartyPants:
You are missing the point because you are fixated on labels. Region, province, state, or whatever, this is the point: Ironsi abrogated the autonomy of the regions and concentrated power in the central government in a unitary military system of government.

The regions remained in principle after this, but their autonomy was stripped, and their governors were military governors answerable to Ironsi in the military hierarchy.

hammer567:
VERY VITAL POINT, YOU RAISED, THE REGION WRE ANSWERABLE TO PARLIAMENT IN LAGOS.


IRONSI JUST ADDED MILITARY STRUCTURE TO REGIOANALISM.

SmartyPants:
The level of control was much higher. Regional governments had a high degree of autonomy not only in running their civil services but also in expenditure. They could execute policy directions of their own, similar to State governors of today.

The military governors were just subordinates who served at the whim of the military head of state.

Ilaje1:
Centralizing power is a unitary govt. Each region was not independent anymore. Federal govt controls everything instead of each region controlling her region. You see facts steering at you in the face, you still looking what's not lost because of propaganda. No wonder Naija is getting worse with people who prefer to go with tribal sentiments. He probably made a mistake, accept it and move on.

SmartyPants:
You are missing the point because you are fixated on labels. Region, province, state, or whatever, this is the point: Ironsi abrogated the autonomy of the regions and concentrated power in the central government in a unitary military system of government.

The regions remained in principle after this, but their autonomy was stripped, and their governors were military governors answerable to Ironsi in the military hierarchy.

Kagd10:
He was a junior officer without position. So why wouldn't he hold the keys? He didn't want to hand it over because of the fear of his senior officer hence his Igbo brethren killed him. So how's he an Igbo leader? You dey mad?

Kagd10:
Why are you asking me? Na ment? Point is he wasn't an Igbo leader. He was a junior officer who was killed by his brethren.

SmartyPants:
You are missing the point because you are fixated on labels. Region, province, state, or whatever, this is the point: Ironsi abrogated the autonomy of the regions and concentrated power in the central government in a unitary military system of government.

The regions remained in principle after this, but their autonomy was stripped, and their governors were military governors answerable to Ironsi in the military hierarchy.

Kagd10:
He was a junior officer without position. So why wouldn't he hold the keys? He didn't want to hand it over because of the fear of his senior officer hence his Igbo brethren killed him. So how's he an Igbo leader? You dey mad?

Kagd10:
Igbo military leader? You must be joking.

He was killed by his fellow Igbo because he refused to hand over the keys and he was no leader. He was a junior officer who had no position sef.

GUNITGuy:
He signed unitary government that provoked the north to install Gowon but yet he didn't reverse it setting the stage for a civil war by Ojukwu...
Ojukwu said since they don't want regional government they should rather secede

Kagd10:
The story which has Igbo people as the leaders of the coup plotters. You mean you want to blame the naive junior officers who were drawn in by the senior Igbo officers who masterminded the coup with Ironsi and Azikiwe? You dey mad?

Also, every regional leaders were killed! Except the Igbo leaders! Everyone knows it was an Igbo coup.

sukkot:
bros stop this rough play na. how do you abolish regions in name ? because of ironsi we are suffering in zoogeria today

juman:
Igbos planned to re colonize Nigerians but failed.
They thought Nigerians are fools.

Igbos think in strange ways.

SmartyPants:
It was 100% Ironsi who scrapped it or at least, laid the foundation for it to be scrapped so as to consolidate power at the center.

The history books are clear on this and there is no different side to be told because the records are clear and many of those who witnessed it are still alive today.