₦airaland Forum

Ilaje1:
The Joe argument is flawed. Is there a law that says we must buy from Dangote? Nigeria can continue to import finished product (pms) like that are doing now. Dangote only refinery in Nigeria in which he can sell his end product to other Nations. Joe should appreciate him for creating jobs. Also nothing stops the govt from making use of her own refinery. Unfortunately he's biased, he's a known obidient. Reason people like him should have been neutral.

Who should they buy from?

plaindealer:
Read and comprehend.

Oga let me ask you again have you asked them why these refineries didn't work? Oga stop trying to support evil abeg

MelesZanawi:
Obinna, go and ask your mother.

Meles try and be wise and respectful in convos

plaindealer:
Unfortunately for you, this is their self-made afterthought and disingenuous narrative, the FG offered palliatives already and is willing to dialogue with them, the NLC is not interested in any palliative or solutions, they just want to strike.

The Nigerian workers suffered more during the naira exchange, but they did not strike or even say a word.

They are on their own because the majority of the people of Nigeria are ok with subsidy removal and the only NLC people going on strike are the SE NLC, the rest of the country moved on already.

What palliative did FG offer let us talk about it. You are so insincere may God judge you all supporting something that will increase the hardship of Nigerians.

plaindealer:
As it stands, tens of thousands of Nigerians are employed by the Dangote refinery complex and over two hundred thousand Nigerian workers are st to be employed by the refinery complect when it's fully up and running, on top of the massive and positive economic collateral effects via the industrial end users of the ammonia and petrochemical raw materials, even the immense IGR sees nothing but his self induced and blurred partisan vision of monopoly.

Is it also a monopoly that Dangote is the largest employer of labor in the private sector, or this man is saying their paychecks won't put food on the table or the banks won't accept their paychecks because it's from a monopoly?

The NLC's number one concern is the welfare and well-being of Nigerian workers including hundreds of thousands of Dangote workers across the country.

This man and his labor party NLC sat comfortably and quietly during the CBN naira change, they did not say a word, they watch Nigerian workers groan in pain simply because it was all about denying Tinubu the presidency.

No, all of a sudden, they care about the Nigerian workers all because of the same subsidy removal that they saw coming months ago, the same subsidy removal that all the presidential candidates including their own Peter Obi promised to stop immediately.

Fortunately, this man and his destructing, unpatriotic elements and economic saboteurs are on their own, the Nigerian workers are not interested in his anti-Nigerian partisan nonsense.

Oga have conscience and shut up

jackcanfield:
The price is determined by crude oil price in the international market, a big refinery definitely don't want to be keeping stocks , they want to sell quickly and keep there margins, there is nothing like one player. He just want to use Dangote's name to be catching cruise, he is not talking about the trillions we lose via smuggling to other countries, because he is now Partisan.

And who told you they don't keep stocks? There is a reason why they have storage tanks and tank farms.

9jaRealist:
So BUA and LaFarge are now out of the cement business?

Because the last I checked…
BUA has a profitable multi-billion cement business while LaFarge is the world’s largest cement producer.
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You are a very insincere person. BUA and Lafarge cannot compete because he has muscled them to sell at high prices. So they are content with the current margins they are making even with the small market share. Look no amount of whitewashing can change the fact that these guys are liars

tsdarkside:
better calm down before police deal with your fvckup....

In what way will they deal with him?

MelesZanawi:
That has already been done. Obi is a dunce without innovative thinking.

Are you sure you are not the dunce.

N3TRAL:
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It's because Dangote is a better business Man!

No it is because of the exploitation of the corrupt system he is not a brilliant businessman. He cannot stand competition.

SmartyPants:
That doesnt make sense. How exactly does having the dominant share of demand help you force others to sell higher? If anything, smaller companies try to undercut bigger ones as a competitive strategy. Kindly explain your theory

That was the same MO standard oil was using against other operators. If you don't play ball, he will acquire your company and absorb it under standard oil.

COMPAQ:
Dangote has market leadership in cement, but NOT A MONOPOLY! Same as Mtn in telecoms has market leadership, Transcorp Hilton has in hotels in Abuja, etc. Every market leader dictates price movements to some extent everywhere in the world. It's normal.

He has a monopoly bro. During the days of standard oil, there was shell and other oil companies. What standard oil did was to bully other operators to seel crude oil at his own price. That is the same MO Dangote uses that is why BUA and Lafarge are selling at high margins

9jaRealist:
ABSOLUTELY FALSE!

The refinery began test-running earlier in the year…
It started receiving crude last month (May), and should discharge products in Q3
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Bro I have a friend that works there. They have not started receiving any crude the test of the FCC unit failed. Stop lying to people in this forum abeg.

franchasofficia:
Dangote is scamming Nigerians through Federal Government.



Dangote refinery is not even 70% ready, he hurriedly deceived Buhari to commission it to get more FOREX at CBN rate which is how Aliko Dangote and others like him have been making money off Nigerians.



Dangote will set up big company like oil refinery, cement plant, etc in the guise of helping to grow Nigeria's economy while shortchanging his Nigerian staffs who always resign and move to better firms, and then he hires plenty expatriates and quote high salaries in USD for these idle expatriates he uses as conduit to get dollar from CBN at CBN official rate which he goes to sell at black market rate to make billions.



Dangote Refinery isn't starting PMS refining anytime soon until around 2025 because even the cracker he hurriedly told Indians and Chinese to test run failed.



Are you dumb Nigerians not aware that Dangote applied for Petrol importation license last year and have gotten it? Why is someone building Petrol refinery still applying for PMS importation license and built massive tank farms at Ibeju Lekki?



We know their secrets and that is why they hate us for always exposing and daring them.




Dangote is deceiving you all while FG helps him to make billions off Nigerian people's sufferings and tears. Una eyes go soon clear

We know all this my brother. The sad part is that all these children of corn cannot reason well.

9jaRealist:
There’s NO law against anyone else building a refinery…
In fact, about 28 licenses for private refineries have been granted since 2000.

Accordingly, even you are free to build a refinery and GIVE AWAY the products!
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Show us the list of people granted the license. You believe the lies from the Buhari govt

9jaRealist:
Nothing stops NLC from building its own competing refinery…
But we can’t wait for the FG to endlessly “rehabilitate” its 3 refineries.
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Bro this your comment ain't smart at all

N3TRAL:
Prices of Petroleum products are governed by OPEC. As a member state of OPEC , for instance, an oil company in Nigeria should not be selling lower than Saudi Aramco in Saudi Arabia.

The oil prices are fixed by OPEC. They're international. If a barrel of crude oil is 10$, Dangote won't be buying it from Nigeria at $5. He'll be buying it at 10$. When we bring the factors of comparative advantage and the economies of scale, the cost of production in Nigeria should ordinarily be higher.

Dangote's refinery is projected to export its output to African countries and he cannot sell to them below the international prices. The refinery cannot also sell to Nigeria at a lower price because Nigerian smugglers will benefit from such arbitrage system which could see neighboring countries get more supplies than Nigeria as neighboring countries would be getting cheaper fuel from a Nigerian refinery than anywhere else in the world through the backdoor.

If the price from Dangote refinery changes from the price of imported fuel, it would be because of logistic and transportation reasons. Like elimination of the cost of shipping which would mean not more than 30 to 50 naira difference. Dangote's refinery is to improve our balance of payment as a country and prevent a balance of payment deficit but not to make fuel cheaper through another form of subsidy.

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The NLC chairman is empty and his opinion is not without prejudice.

Dude stop lying to people OPEC only fixes crude oil price in their member countries. Gasoline and Gas prices are not regulated. Please fear God and stop lying to people online. There's no way that refinery will improve our balance of payment bros stop deceiving people here.

renderme:
They have already granted licenses to several modular refineries. Don’t argue if you’re not up to date or know nothing about a conversation.

Show us the list of the licensees. Stop believing the lies this government throws

flokii:
I believe President Tinubu won't allow such... the man is pro-Nigeria and monopoly in whatsoever form is anti-Nigeria and anti-people.

You are seriously living in deceit walahi. Tell yourself the truth that you have made a mistake voting this man. Do this now or regret later.

LegendHero:
How is Dangote going to be a monopoly?

The man also spoke about Dangote cement being a monopoly. Is this man so daft? What about Lafarge, BUA, and etc? Are they also owned by Dangote?

So na the man wey dey head NLC be this? It’s obvious he dosen’t even understand what he is saying.

Once again you are not smart. Dangote actually dictates the price of cement because by his monopoly he is the market driver of cement. That is the point, Lafarge and BUA are content with the margins they make and as such will not want to enter a price war that they will certainly lose in. Try and be smart bro

renderme:
This IMO state guy is just being partisan. Everyone knows BUA will also finish his refinery next year.

What are the other options this country has? Government can’t run any business. All their refineries keep swallowing money & is useless.

Subsidy is a pit that also swallows money wt no benefit for expansion. Subsidy is gone. The goal is increasing states revenue generation and providing a living minimum wage.

You know you are actually the daft one here. BUA's refinery cannot be ready until 2025 because there has to be pre-commissioning activities which take months. How can you increase state revenue in a mono economy where the only source of income is low?

Dotherightthing:
Rubbish!

Subsidy is gone!!

Ask for pay rise!!!

I am sure you are not in this country that is why you van utter this nonsense.

ManirBK:
only Ipob and theiir supporters are not in support of this New Goverment because they are all Lunatics

Mynd44, NLPolicewoman. For how long will all this ethnic profiling continue in nairaland. If one Igbo person now insults the person in response to this tribal slurs, the next thing you will ban that person. Mods please act on this abeg let there be fairness on this forum.

Confirmedzombie:
Im surprised that only igbos carry the NLC nationwide strike on their head like Gala.

Very bitter souls who are always against every good thing that will move this country forward.

A shame

Mynd44, Lalasticlala, NLPolicewoman. Rule violation

OGHENAOGIE:
u guys are to arrogant El rufai employed non kaduna in civil service the recruitment was open to outsiders... living outside kaduna... How about employing those who comes for NYSC and ensuring they reside and key them in... That's how lagos does it yet Ina go de shout anyhow even if u pay tax in a state so long we use indigene or origin over residence... Every can decide not to appiont or employ non indigenes even though they're born and are paying tax there...

Oga stop being stupid and trying to put my words out of context. Any Yoruba that is resident in Abia he can apply and be called. If you can decide to be resident in the state, then you are free to apply. Stop being manipulative abeg.

FreeStuffsNG:
All we want is give other Nigerians appointments, jobs and lands too in your land so we can reciprocate and even the relationship. The Yoruba need the jobs, opportunities and appointments in Igboland too as reciprocation to collaborate with Igbo instead of competing.

Oga if any Yoruba man that is qualified for a post in Abia State is not resident in Abia state, then he cannot be given job there. It is very simple, if Yoruba wany jobs in igbo land then they should also go and settle there, integrate with the community, contribute their quota towards development there, so that they can be given their due acknowledgement there. This your argumentnis too childish at best

FreeStuffsNG:
Smh. Dey play. You will see nah. Let him fill everywhere with his Igbo as usual since only Igbo live and work in the whole Abia state.
This is what you and your Governors have been doing since 1999 but this time, the Injustice will not stand. Give other Nigerians land, jobs and political appointments in Igboland too! If you don't, you will not get shishi in Yorubaland. We need the land, jobs and appointments too! Let us collaborate by reciprocation.


You are saying that there is no Yoruba in the whole of Onitsha let alone the of Abia state and South East? Smh.

Dey play se.

In some Igbo universities alone,there are Yoruba lecturers let alone the whole of Abia and Southeast. You guys will no longer be allowed to cheat others by keeping your own to yourselves and trying to collect that of others. It is unfair!

And please give us the statistics Yorubas in Abia state naaaa. It ain't hard, if you bring an allegation you must be prepared to back it up with facts bro.

FreeStuffsNG:
No single non-Igbo appointed. Smh.

No South west State Governor, including my Governor, HE Sanwo-Olu, must ever appoint Igbo or any non-Yoruba except the Governor of his or her state has appointed a Yoruba first.

Since 1999, South East state Governors keep appointing only Igbo of their own but want other states to appoint Igbo. That is a recipe for injustice and kolewek.

For justice, appoint Yoruba and non-Igbo first and the non Igbo states will appoint Igbo, collaborating by reciprocation. Gone are those days of injustice when you hold your own 100% and want to collect that of others in Yorubaland then turn around to work against the dominant political aspirations of the Yoruba when they demand you give them from your own.

Gov. Alex Otti , same Alex who was made in Yorubaland, should appoint a Yoruba today if you want an Abian to get an appointment in Yorubaland! If you don't, for justice and fairness, nothing for Abians in Yorubaland too.

The cheating will no longer be tolerated. Give us land in Igboland if you want land in Yorubaland. Give us appointment in Igboland if you want appointment in Yorubaland. That is collaborating by reciprocation.

There should be equity and fairness. Open up your Igboland,jobs, appointments and the opportunities there to the Yoruba and other Nigerians same way the Yoruba did and we can make progress together. Alex Otti wants to continue in this clannish nepotic tradition of cheating the Yoruba living in Igboland and continue the injustice against other Nigerians.It must to stop!
Check my signature for free stuffs!

Dude let us try and be smart in our argument. Can you give me statistics of the population of Yorubas in Aba and Abia state as a whole? If you can then let's talk.

Teenaira:
If a criminal like Peter Obi is allowed to rule Nigeria, then the country is finished. Otilo.

How is Nigeria not finished at the moment?

mozona:
Am a fan of Peter obi, he should know that case is close cos even if he wins tinubu will rule for three and half years.

Stop lying, you are not.

Okealaaye:
All reasonable folks worldwide are aware that this assignment is beyond Peter Obi and his shysters! Imagine failing in a mere secretarial duty which any self-containing office hand would have done admirably! But wouldn't it have been surprisingly baffling if the representatives of a Third-Class graduate of philosophy had proved themselves otherwise in a tedious exertion like compilation of papers and files? Fool who wanted to be president of our Republic without the requisite love and warmth for the other ethnicities. A prophecy: Peter's next assignment is being at the head of the Delegation of his hometown elites to President Bola Tinubu to plead the cause of Nnamdi Kanu. He's about the most popular person at the moment to undertake that assignment. Imagine Obi being the best folks can present as leader of Delegation to Abuja! Obi that's as clumsy as a leper trying to run a thread through the eye of a needle! Things are more properly done elsewhere I tell you! Chukwudi, make una no vex jo o. Na the one finger wey carry palm oil come spoil the rest of the fingers of your folks. Biko.

E go shock una. Keep desperately trying to spread fake news.