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Kobojunkie: Your answers are absolute and your assumptions are infinite. Perhaps it would do you good if I said, You win!🤗 |
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Kobojunkie: Of course they have no place in the secular society. But they have in virtually all the countries of the world; in their wider societies. Only that some countries moderate the power/reach of those laws better than others. They set the limits and no one leaps beyond. That moderation is what I recommend now, not the religious laws themselves. I said this before. Lol |
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Dtruthspeaker: Maybe... But, whatever the cause, I think it is an unacceptable limitation to human rights. What do you think? |
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Kobojunkie: You may own your perspective. I have made myself clear. Any other person who is open-minded and really understands what is realistic will have no difficulty comprehending my position on this |
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In the face of an ailing judicial system fraught with dependency, justice denial, and ever increasing corruption across government arms, 👉Do you think the Nigerian constitution is really working? Does it really safeguard your rights as a person? 👉What are the apparent weaknesses/lapses you have seen? 👉Would you recommend an immediate overhaul? 👉What revisions would you recommend? |
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Kobojunkie: On your first and second point, I am in total agreement that crime should be treated as crime no matter who the perpetrators are. That's the whole point I've been working out. However, I believe we will continue to see the justice lapses and religious intimidation/attrocities we see in our society today until the need to delineate, delimit and handle issues as sensitive as religious ones with utmost clarity and specificity starts to make sense to you and to us all. On your question, Then why are you here insisting there should be religious laws on the books? I never said, and would never say that more room should be created to accommodate Sharia or any of its equivalents (even though they are already recognized) I am a proponent of a secular government that really understands the religious complexities of the society and has clearly defined criminal code that makes no concession on the grounds of religion. None of the five points suggest differently. On the reason I suggest that our laws should be more sensitive to religious intricacies, it's because we have for time immemorial witnessed how disregard for these micro explanations/provisions has allowed religious jackals to bite and get away. We have seen the inability of the government to act in cases of violation of people's rights on religious grounds, which ought never to be. If you read me with an open mind, you will have no problem connecting all I've said and/or making sense of the same. And, I would like to emphasize that what I recommend is not the accordance of more recognition to religious organizations or their typical laws (as found in religious books). I simply call for more practical observance of extant human rights laws to the point that there are no hideouts for religious extremism. |
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Kobojunkie: Honestly, I think your thought is dangerous and not so informed. I don't see how it will ever produce a governable society. But the government (anywhere) still sets bounds. For instance, the government would/should not fold it's arms seeing religious systems/organizations openly engaging in human sacrifices (or something similar) because their gods are bloodthirsty. (It actually happened and was common/normal before the evolution of the modern society). It still happens today indirectly, and it's something government can be held accountable for anytime. Or, you think the government should('ve) fold(ed) its arms because it's too dull to understand religious matters in this case also? Let me nail my point here again: the need for moderation of extreme religious practices cannot be overemphasized because a lot of attrocities that threaten the peace and safety of the society often hide under the guise of practice of devotion to one deity or the other. Any government that would do its duties, part of which is guaranteeing the security of people's rights, lives/properties and expect success must be informed enough to understand how to moderate one man's excesses (including religious ones) that may constitute serious violation of another man's rights. We don't need the deities to help us understand the intricacies of how the interaction of religion and its diverse practices with the society should be managed. All we need, all that the government needs, is an adequate sense of reasoning. Most, if not all laws are products of reason and experience, and good laws should guarantee a more progressive society. Or, are you suggesting that the deities are in the best position to moderate religious violence/extremism/perversions/attrocities that threaten normal life? |
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Kobojunkie: It won't be correct to deal with issues as sensitive as religion as we deal with secular organizations. Our inability to have a proper understanding/definition of social systems/structures/institutions, and clear delimitation of regulations is fundamental among the causes of problems in our society. |
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Dtruthspeaker: If on paper, I can't agree less. But in reality, that is a lot limited. How often have we found that expectation of observance of certain religious laws peculiar to certain sects are often transferred to non adherents also? For instance, traditional worshippers sometimes rule that there shouldn't be movement for certain period because they have rituals to perform that forbid members of the public from going out. I have seen it a lot. Also, in places where the practice of Islam is prevalent, expectation of observance of Islamic laws is often unreasonably passed on to neutral community dwellers. The failure to do so sometimes attract brutal consequences. Where is the effect of the said right to choose association? |
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AntiChristian: No! You are wrong. This is introduction to common sense, and it recognizes that people can either be adherents or non conformists. ![]() |
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1 There Can be Religious Laws but No religious structure should have the power to administer either Corporal Penalties or Capital Punishment on those who break those laws (including adherents). The highest power a religious body should have is excommunication (Not banishment from the person's own place/property or the community where the person lives). 2 Any injurious action by adherents of a religion targeted at a non adherent on the basis of his/her nonconformity should be treated as crime against humanity. All individuals involved (not just the leaders of the mob) should be punished. 3 No religious practices should ever prohibit movement or everyday life/activities of non adherents at any time. 4 Expectation of Observance of any aspect of any religious law should only be limited to adherents. 5 Those who attempt to force observance of religious laws on people or forcefully extend the fears and expectation of their religion on non adherents should be quickly prosecuted and penalized. What do you think? |
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creativehubb: Boko Haram is a terrorist org as far as Nigeria and the human world is concerned. I'm so concerned that Nigeria has consistently turned the blind eye to religious extremism to the point that those who perpetuate their terror in broad day light without declaring openly their allegiance to Boko Haram have been defended and protected by advocates of extremism, and Nigeria has been silent. Also, there are states where the rights and freedoms spelt out in the Nigerian constitution are openly violated in the name of observance of extremist customary and religious laws, which ideally ought to be subject to the federal law. |
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I decided to share this after having just witnessed how an unarmed suspected thief was abused to the point where some members of the mob holding sticks, spades and hoe tried to inflict additional injuries on the suspect after he had been arrested in a community in Akure. A man holding the hoe could be heard violently rushing close and saying "Give him a mark on the head... mark him!" For what, if I may ask? I am Olojo Opeyemi Oluwaseun, a member of Amnesty International. Just in case you do not know what the meaning of Jungle Justice is; I define jungle justice as the immediate punitive and inhumane treatment served to people who are caught up in or, especially suspected of having committed, or committing a crime such as theft, blasphemy, trespass or violation of any existing laws. There could be more on the subject. I have witnessed several cases of people across the nation who either died or received permanent physical impairments as a result of this unacceptable practice, and I am compelled to stand against this vice of its own kind that really showcases backwardness and actually brings the nation farther into the depth of the 'jungle'. We have seen series of blasphemy related jungle justice served to several Nigerians who live in the North, a hotbed of fundamentalist Islamist practices, where nonconformists are subject to brutality. The news is awash with specific cases where alleged thieves and blasphemers have been brutalized and killed. While there is a volume of explanations for the aggressiveness of the population including frequent cases of kidnapping, thefts, killings, summarily heightened insecurity of lives and properties, denial of justice, and the fact that the number of victims who are filled with vengeance is gaining persistent increase on daily basis, I strongly believe that resorting to mob action —often criminal by nature— is an impossible way to stop crime and it comes with far more dangerous consequences. For example, an innocent person might get killed or harmed. I think, "what if the person is an associate of mine and innocent at the same time?!". So, I seize this opportunity to call on all concerned Nigerians who understand the importance of civility and would love to see the right worth/importance attached to human life to rise up to end jungle justice everywhere in the nation. From my observation, I find that, actually, the cruelest things are done to victims of jungle justice especially after they have been disarmed and pose no immediate danger to those who nabbed them. At this point, suspects, both those who are innocent and those who are guilty had already begun pleading for mercy due to overwhelming fear. But unfortunately, they often get overwhelming cruelty that leave forever physical impairments or just end their lives instead. Once again, this is unacceptable and inhumane! While it is good for members of the community to do their part in ensuring criminals are held, people should refrain from actions that can lead to very dangerous and even deadly outcomes. The law of the federation accords the highest sense of importance to the dignity of human life regardless of the several instances where that has been violated. And, if nothing else, the same law states that a suspect is innocent until proven otherwise in the court of law, and based on this, I believe and I recommend that members of the public should exercise the minimum expected restraint and avoid exceeding reasonable bounds while holding suspected criminals responsible. Let all good Nigerians desist from crime, and also from the crime of taking part in jungle justice. #JungleJustice #MobAction Be free to share this post and contribute to mass orientation on the danger of jungle justice. |
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With daily reports of GBV related incidences in Ondo State, Ondo State Accountability Mechanism for Maternal and Newborn Health, a Non-Governmental Organization, steps up its campaign against gender-based violence through advocacy to important stakeholders. Full story can be found here: https://topshotnews.com.ng/odamm-intensifies-campaign-against-gbv/ |
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Note: All the points discussed below may not apply to all students alike, but many of these have culminated in the current state, and they are observable in the majority. A. Are the subjects getting more difficult, making people prefer to hire mercenaries, or explore other unconventional avenues? I don't think so. As a student in the Art department during my school days, I found out that comprehending older literatures, like the works of Shakespeare and the like, proved to be a more difficult task than getting a grip of contemporary works. Perhaps those great old works are still in the syllabus. But, I can fairly say that subjects have not got harder for students. There has to be another explanation for the loss of interest that plagues students as we observe. ![]() B. Is the curriculum so bulky that teachers and students are under intense pressure to get it dusted and present result for certain reasons? Whether No or Yes, one thing that cannot be clearer is the fact that everyone is in haste to get the result. Teachers have their target; the course outline must be covered, that's how they ensure they have something to take home. On their part, students are in a hurry to be on the same level with their mates and, call it love or war, the end justifies the means here. Consequently, the time required for proper teaching and learning of courses are cut to the chase (the result), and from SS One to Three, we find out that the only thing different from notebooks in a student's backpack is Past Questions and Answers Series. Where are the textbooks? How on earth is learning supposed to take place in this situation?! ![]() C. Is it because the rigours and cost of real learning are not always worth it, and so, people choose the affordable alternative? Maybe. Even before the cost of education in Nigeria got this scary, pursuing quality education had always been an expensive venture. Some would say, the credit goes to the government, or should we call it debit?! ![]() The fact is uncontestable that learning costs time, money, physical and mental labour and so on. In Nigeria where the rate of unemployment is very high, people who can't afford the costs of unimpaired education often resort to the popular and more affordable alternative. They say, it's easier to bypass process and pay for result than waste resources on multiple academic sessions. D. Are crucial "distractions" (money, profile building, 'Japa' syndrome etc) overwhelming the value of education? I don't know if all these distractions have brought education to the point it is now, I only believe they are also seriously taking their toll. These are distractions with very strong economic backbone. Those who had privilege among older generation often viewed education as a 'means to' most of these 'ends' and so, they struggled to make the best out of school up to tertiary levels. On the contrary, our generation is such in which a lot of young people go about with the belief that formal education doesn't really increase their prospect of success in a capital driven world where money matters get the primacy. Would you say they are wrong? What if there's a quick way to get the certificate/result and keep focus on the more "crucial" ![]() E. Is schooling getting boring or fun is getting the better part? Well, my thought on this is that schooling experience at a time, and for one person, has not been the same with others. Some experienced free education while others didn't, some enjoyed good facilities while others didn't, some went to expensive schools while others managed state owned schools, but there's something that connects all students regardless of condition and era — every student had his/her fun time and work time, but some learnt while others didn't; some managed to get educated while others didn't. I guess it all depends on the individual. So, do you think fun is getting the better part? I'm sure there are those who believe the fun is not even enough! Or, you think Jack won't be dull even if denied his play time? Please go over to the comments section. ![]() F. Now, are schools/parents more concerned about students passing WAEC rather than really imparting knowledge that would be useful in practical terms? Permit me to share. As a student, I remember that I seldom studied because I wanted to pass, though I always maintained a great level of concentration during lessons (I'm not saying I always had the best result at every exercise). But I remember well that if anything ever made me pick up my notebook, I read to really know, understand, and be able to apply in real life situations, and that hasn't left me. Those who do so know how helpful that is. In fact, that is what I understand to be the true meaning of education—the practicality of acquired experience. But, then and now, I see a lot of guys around, whose only reason for being in school is to make their papers "anyhow", and I fear for the fate of education and the potential effects of this dangerous trend on our society. On the part of parents, the paranoia often takes the form of this syndrome: "my child must not be left behind by his classmates, If Tega gets promotion, then Tegbwolo must be promoted, whatever it takes!" And, behold, education becomes a sprint race! G. Are students finding the bypass (all the "pass—anyhow" tactics) more handy? I have almost no reason to doubt the hypothesis that most students are increasingly opting for the bypasses. We may have discussed some of the reasons already —there are perhaps up to a thousand— but the effect of this on education can not just be overemphasized! It constantly delivers heavy blows to the cause of education. Miracle centres, Wonder Schools, Egungun Academy, Last-Bus Stop group of Schools, CABADED Institutions etc. ![]() WHAT CAN WE DO??!! |
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egopersonified: Some laws need serious and urgent revision. Why should. No law should allow people to persecute those who don't buy religious ideas. One unbeliever among many religious people should have the right to see things differently and even voice his opinion without any threats. |
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REPOST THIS AS OFTEN AS YOU SEE NEWS LIKE THIS! 👉 Everyone everywhere has right to his thought, belief, speech, opinion etc. regardless of where they live; 👉There are only Christians, Muslims and Traditional worshippers and what have you. There is no Christian/Muslim state! 👉 Religious intolerance is unacceptable! 👉 "Hate speech" so called in Nigeria is a scam. Stop placing limits on people's rights in the name of religion!! 👉Everyone has right to safety regardless of what they say with their mouths, or write, or do with their money (money, So far it doesn't constitute physical/lethal threat to others' lives.) Nigerians demand respect for human dignity! ❌ Stop religious intimidation! STOP BARBARITY❌ GOD BLESS NIGERIA!!! |
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No one in a true democracy should prohibit peaceful protests. It is very common but very disheartening to hear statements like this coming from the North. Thanks to those who know it's not rightful for him to do. |
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