₦airaland Forum

Oganigwe:
As for me as an Igbo man and Obi supporter, I personally don't like Tulumbu's government one bit, but I'm beginning to actually like T-pain as a person. It seems Tinubu is so far the only Southern leader who has the balls to stick a finger up to the Northern hegemony without fear or favor. For long the North have been allowed to get away with a lot of things in this country and our useless and cowardly Southern leaders would always suck up to their nonsense all in the name of currying Northern interest for political experiency.

I doubt even Obi would have the heart to take and implement some tough national decisions and measures that Tinubu is taking right now.

Nigeria must move on with or without the North, it's time for every subnational and state government have complete accountability for the running of its respective state's, it's time for state governors and legislators to actually stop being lazy by always depending on FAAC allocations from Abuja (which majority end up stealing without any evidential inputs and audits on how these monies are spent for the well being of the people).

It's time for certain states to stop leeching off on taxes generated from other productive states while they bring nothing to the national coffers of the nation, if this tax reform bill will force some useless governors, LG chairmen, and house of assembly legislators in the South East to sit up and start working knowing that there will be more visibility and consequences for their actions from the people since the excuse of "not getting enough allocation from Abuja" will no longer fly, then I think it's only smart for every logical thinking Igbo person to support the bill to be passed, and I hope our SE reps don't slack on this one.

Local Government autonomy, tax reform bills and the only thing left for Tpain to implement is state police creation and we might just be heading towards restructuring and fiscal federalism for the first time since regional government.

Yoruba person masquerading as an Igbo OP.

You could have fooled me.

Yoruba people can go and fight the north alone. Leave Igbos out of your cunning ways.
You destroyed Igbo-owned properties in Lagos, and think you can throw a wool over our eyes. Iyasikwa

helinues:
Zulum don dey misyarn lately. A professor for that matter

Southerners have been heavily taxed for decades while the northerners have been evading it. This time around, no going back. The tax reform bill will be passed.

Infact, there are more reforms coming like quota system. North should be ready for what's about to come

Please stop adding SS and SE to this your yarn.

It is Yoruba vs north. The tax proposal will not be benefitting any SE or SS state. That the SE and SS are not talking yet, doesn't meant both regions are totally in support of the tax bill.

sapele914:
Empty Barrel, please we beg u, just shut up, when Federal Government show, na speed racer japa, you go take run, disappear.

Yorubas are known as the greatest cowards in Nigeria
By 2027 elections, there will be no federal might for Tinubu to hide under. That is when the cowardliness will be exposed for the world to see. You will be looking for allies then, but will have none.

Throwback:
Are you talking of the same MiddleBelt that Tinubu won 4 out of 6 states?

The same SouthSouth that Peter Obi lost 3 out of 6 states?

You are the one existing in another dimension of delusion.

Yes I'm talking about the same SS where Tinubu won Rivers state fraudulently and the middle belt where Tinubu won Benue fraudulently.

Next time no-one will be waiting for court verdicts
Revolution will start immediately, and Tinubu will be lucky if he doesn't end up like Samuel Doe

MadamExcellency:
If this is the reason for rejecting Tinubu, Southsouth, Southeast and Middlebelt will vote for Tinubu. We can't be servants to Core North. Let every region develop at her pace.

So the Southsouth, Southeast and Middlebelt will abandon Peter Obi and vote in a president who enabled the destruction of their properties in Lagos? A president that instigated he current hardship that Nigerians are going through right now.

You people seem to exist in another dimension

Ebubu6:
It is not good to celebrate barbarism

Tinubu is the president of Nigeria today because Obi chose to be a wimp rather than a brutal politician when the situation called for it. And by brutality, I mean both the psychological form and perhaps the physical form, if that is what it takes to get rid of election riggers

Ebubu6:
E no dey hard Anambra man to burn man with fire.

That is exactly why it is difficult to rig elections in Anambra.

Anambra state is a no-go area for APC

adeniyiemmanuel:
...this list is incompleted why LAGOS ,ABUJA & KANO didn't make the list ?most expectially Lagos that is no man's land.

Awon WEREY olee land grabbers.

You are contradicting yourself. How can a No Man's Land be Igboland?

The jealousy of you guys will send you all to your early graves.

Please let's also not forget that more than 90% of Nigeria's gas reserves is just in the SE.

Perhaps even close to 40-50% of Nigeria's oil reserves is in Igboland

legitnow:
THOSE ARE THE ONLY REAL MEN I HAVE SEEN IN SUCH A LONG TIME NOTE WORTHY TO BE CALLED A MAN.


THEM AND THEIR SOLDIERS.



IF IGBO MEN ARE THOSE HOMOSEXUALS THAT DONT KNOW THEIR RIGHT FROM THEIR LEFT.


THE ANYWHERE BELLE FACE, JUST KNOW WE WILL KILL ALL OF YOU WITHOUT REMORSE.


NIGERIA WAY IS NOT BIAFRA WAY.

Good leaders anticipate danger way before it materializes. I will never ever follow anyone I consider my intellectual inferior or exhibits megalomaniac personality. These are recipes for disaster.
That is why they are both in jail. Ekpa may get released because he is currently in another country, but anyone that needlessly puts himself in harm's way, not minding how that will affect his followers, is not worthy of being a leader. You only consider being captured, only when it serves a greater purpose, but in a situation where their incaceration is born out of their extreme incompetence, I have no tears to shed for them.

When the real leaders emerge, I will know.

I wonder where ACF expects to get their votes from. They should know by now that the SS and SE will not be voting for any NWner anytime soon.

As the NW and NE have never supported the SE or SS presidency, these southern regions will never ever vote for a NW or NE candidate.

ACF had better be begging the SW to help them vote in a NW or NE candidate.

God1000:
Anybody supporting this guy to destabilize south east is an enemy of igbos, he's using wrong approach.

Both Simon EKpa and Nnamdi Kanu are not fit to be leaders of any Igbo self-determination groups.

Access to internet and broadcasting equipment are not the prerequisites for leadership positions.

yoruboid:
Just imagine states were allowed to collect and control their VAT

Apart from Anambra, which is just about N700m higher, Ekiti has more VAT revenue than all the states in the SE

Your TPain tax collector governors are draining you people dry and you are here rejoicing about it.

And by the way, Igbos are possibly responsible for more Lagos VAT than yorubas who are constantly deported from Lagos to their states for non productivity

ikaboy:
See who wants to be the president of Nigeria

Was the current president of Nigeria not a drug dealer? Why should his supporters be against Kwankwaso whose crime is to have a contrary opinion?

All I hope is that Kwankwaso should take note that Igbos are not part of the governing structure of Lagos, so any leadership tussles in Kano has no Igbo hand in it.
In fact, Yorubas in Lagos have been destroying Igbo businesses and properties on one trumped up charge or the other, since Tinubu assumed the presidency.

Robofan:
With which electricity?.. is it the national grip that falls every Eke market day or the electricity that is epileptic.. The Government is not serious with developing this country
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Meanwhile at a cheap price dm me for your logo and flyer design

He has already built his power station which now currently powering Aba, so electricity will be the least of his problems, if he decides to set up this AI institute in Aba

Ttalk:
Even when we had regional government na their region still be the poorest while their leaders escaped to SW and North to get exposure

During the regional government, the Eastern region was the fastest growing economy in the world. Now that's a fact

Immediately Yoruba and Fulani illiterates took control of Nigeria in 2015, the economy has crashed.
Before the crash, the Igbo managers of Nigeria's economy made the Nigerian economy, the biggest in Africa. If the Igbo managers of the Nigerians economy had carried on managing the Nigerian economy, it is estimated that the Nigerian economy would have grown to a N1 trillion annual economy by now.

Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, Arunma Oteh, Peter Obi et al did wonders for Nigeria, before the illiterates took over in 2015

1Sharon:
Global appeal according to who? Why you just dey lie like this?

What traditional ingredients do Yorubas add to their egwusi soup?

1Sharon:
Are you not grasping what I'm saying? Where did I say it's yoruba based? Yorubas eat ugu(ewekoro) too. That's the point. Heck, all the other tribes do aswell and they have their respective names for it. It's not exclusive to igbos.

Yes. It's wrong for the topic to claim egusi soup belonged to yorubas as it's endemic to other west Africans. The word itself should be the main point.

Once again, you add ogiri and ugu to your egusi, others add no leaves at all. So what? What does that prove? Do you think the congolese aren't adding ingredients, that are unique to them?

No it's not my claim, it's a fact. Make your findings. Google mbika and see what comes up.


Who is everybody? People in or outside Nigeria? Did other tribes abandon their way of making egusi for the Igbo way? What's your point exactly?

As it stands right now, Egusi soup is a pan-west african dish for everyone. We can't pinpoint it's origins unlike jellof, another pan-west African dish.

I can role with the bolded statement. The mission to claim Egusi as Yoruba is fraudulent. All I will add is that the version of egusi soup that has that global appeal is the Igbo version of egusi soup, as it contains ugu and those other traditional spices that make Igbo soups bang.

Just to improve my knowledge, which other Yoruba soup do you prepare with Ugu (ewekoro) ? Igbos prepare several soups with ugu, which proves ugu , (alongside ogili and ogili okpei) is second nature, when it comes to Igbo cuisine.

LivingSage:
Trash.

Why beating around the bush?

Tell us etymology of Egusi in Igbo, simple. That shouldn't be hard if you're truly not laying claim to what belongs to you not.

Who told you ugu is the best or only vegetable for Egusi? That's what you eat it with.

Yorubas eat theirs with ewuro (washed butter leaf), Guure (water leaf) and amunu tutu. Those are the best for Yorubas. We started making use of the amaranth (tete).

Also what you call ogili is what we call iru (locust bean).

GIVE US ETYMOLOGY OF EGUSI IN IGBO OR TRULY YOU'RE LYING

You haven't given me a convincing etymology for ewedu, and you are here looking for the etymology for egusi, when you don't even know what uziza and ogili okpei are

1Sharon:
What does the Egwu part mean then?

FYI, yorubas also eat Ugu! They call it Ewekoro and Igbos, specifically Ebonyi igbos eat ewedu. It's called ahingbara!

Egusi soup is not the point here. The word is. Egusi soup is eaten all over West and Central Africa. In Congo it's called Mbika. You put ugu leaves in your soup, others add no leaves at all, so what?

Let go of the main character syndrome.

You all speak from both sides of the mouth, one tells me that Ugu is not a Yoruba-used vegetable, while you are now telling me it is also a Yoruba-used vegetable.


So if egusi is universal as you are claiming, why did someone post a publication that suggested that Egusi soup was solely a Yoruba delicacy?

Anyway my point still remains that Egwusi soup as is popular around the world at the moment, is an indigenous Igbo soup, as Igbos use condiments that are not used elsewhere.
What about uziza?
What about ogili okpei?
The last question is the hammer that will beat your argument to death.

What the above questions prove is that the egusi soup that everyone seems to like, is the Igbo version, which doesn't negate the likely possibility that other people may have their versions of egusi soup.

The Igbo version must have ugu and ogili okpei. This is not the case with the egusi soups from elsewhere.

We mustn't also forget the fact that the only word for this soup, is derived from the only igbo word for melon. So whether they cook it in central Africa or in Yorubaland, the word for the soup is the only word that Igbos know melon by.

Sharpsharp00123:
are u ok?

Haven't u heard about shortened words before?

It's ewedudu but they shortened it, just like some say Kuli Kuli n some short it to Kuli

I guess u understand now

So how does ugu relate to egwusi?

No Yoruba have ever claimed ugu so what are u talking about?

Ugu is the principal vegetable used in cooking Egusi soup.

So if you assert that Yorubas have never claimed Ugu, why are you trying to claim Egusi soup?

And for your information, you claim that THEY dropped DU to make the word EWEDU and not EWEDUDU. My question to you is this. Who are the THEY you are referring to?

I can also tell you that the SI in EgwuSI means COOK in Igbo language. I can easily ring up my folks in the village to bring up a word that contains EGU or EGWU, so that when it is joined to SI, it will make perfect sense.

But the point remains that the major points of this argument favour the Igbo origins of the Egusi soup.
1. The word that is ascribed to the soup is the only word in Igbo for melon.
2. You have even just admitted that Yorubas are not claiming ugu, which happens to be the chief vegetable for Egusi soup.
3. I am not certain whether there is a word for UZIZA, which is another condiment
4. I am even doubly certain that Yorubas don't use ogili okpei, which is a critical ingredient for preparing egusi soup.

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Sharpsharp00123:
ewe means leaf

Dudu means black

So it's called ewedudu and it's abbreviated to ewedu

Hope i am clear now

Oya tell me that of egwusi in igbo

Ewedu means black leaf n I believe it's obvious it's black n it's leaf


So I hope u understand now

I would have understood EWEDUDU, You still haven't satisfactorily explained EWEDU.

Ugu is an Igbo vegetable. It is also a major ingredient of Egwusi soup. What is Ugu called in Yoruba, and what is the etymology of the Yoruba word for Ugu?

Sharpsharp00123:
tell me d entymology of egwusi in Igbo?

I will have to tell you that, alongside the etymology of nsala, akwu and akanwu

I will also be expecting you to tell me the etymology of ewedu

Sharpsharp00123:
what about this?

Cc
Vanbonattel
Ngozi123
Ariesbull
OfoIgbo

It is all a part of the plan to claim egusi as Yoruba.

The fact that the piece fails to mention that Igbos also refer to melon as egusi, clearly shows this is an attempt to claim egusi soup as Yoruba.

We are all used to these little Yoruba moves. No one is fooled.

Bobodee09:
Nawa oooo.

I was born in lagos and grew up in Lagos, we don't put tomatoes in efo.
We only add stew(obe) on top

Which ever way you want to interpret it that your business.

What is tomato in Yoruba?

Bobodee09:
So what you eat in lagos is how we all prepare efo.

No one add tomato to efo cause it make it soar.
They can only put stew on it and is mostly restaurants that do it.


Do you igbos all prepare a prepare a particular meal the same way

I thought you guys have been claiming Lagos as a Yoruba state. Now you are trying to de-Yorubanise Lagos, because they cook efo differently from you.

Anyway, I suppose my major point is that Egusi soup is an Igbo delicacy, alongside Nsala (white), Onugbu, Ogbono etc soups

Bobodee09:
Who use tomato to cook efo??

The ones I eat in Lagos here, all contain tiny amounts of tomatoes.

I also know that at times, they add a spoon of stew on top of the dished out efo soup.

Gustavowhite:
I grew up in Lagos and I know Yoruba people food very well
Apart from efo,Yoruba meals typically don’t have vegetables,Is it ewedu,Ila,gbegiri etc,which one of these soups do you see vegetables in?

You have a point, especially when you consider the fact that EFO is likely a very modern soup, because tomato does not have a Yoruba word, unless I'm missing something.

So following from your point, the only Yoruba soup that contains vegetables is modern, which is probably why it doesn't follow the usual Yoruba soup rules.

Bobodee09:
And am telling you melon has one name in yourba.

The difference species are egusi bara,egusi itakun etc..hence why is in the dictionary

According to the Yoruba dictionary that Reno was quoting, Melon has 4 words in Yoruba. No classification for species was made in that dictionary.

Please why don't Yorubas also call it ITAKUN soup?

Why is the identification for that soup, derived from the only name Igbos have for melon?

If it was Yoruba delicacy, it should also be called Itakun soup.

Why is it only known as Egwusi/Egusi soup, which is surprisingly the only name that Igbos have for melon?

Kobojunkie:
Promoting Anioma culture while wearing Hausa gab in a lot of his pictures?

Who told you so?

In Igboland, we call it koo-nkosa, but for some reason over the past 200 years, Igbos popularised the other forms of attire to the detriment of koo-nkosa, which is called Agbada in Yoruba

Kudos to the Igbos of the middle East.

Ikaeniyan0:
Today of all day wey EPL match go start by 12pm

There was light since 5pm yesterday, they took it by 8am today, I didn't charge my phone and laptop, I wish I saw this early

Yoruba leadership and blinding incompetence are like 5&6