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SlayerForever:Basden gave us even more. You should see the map he drew that pointed out Igboland. He doesn't want to resend it. You really need to see it |
nengibo:By the way, according to your attachment, PERE is not the same as OYE PERE. PERE is not for royalty, according to your attachment cc Bonessaw |
nengibo:This your building evidence means nothing. Dr. Baikie in the 1800s noted that Pepple stood for PEPPER, and that the king of Bonny was of Igbo ancestry. The building evidence is obviously an attempt by the Ijaws to Ijawnise Ubani |
techmo:We have Opobo Chief of Army staff |
nengibo:Read my signature and you will see that PEPPLE of Ubani are of Igbo ancestry, according to a book written about 200 years ago. You will loose this battle |
AlphikkaTech:Stop spreading falsehood. Read the attachment in my signature to learn who the original Ubani people are. Thank God neutral observers recorded it. In the full book there was not a mention of IBANI. The Ijaw strangers in Bonny were described as Ijaws from Brass. It is obvious it was many years after this book that they started adopting the name IBANI, as a corrupted form of UBANI, the name of the town cc AlphikkaTech Bonessaw |
okeyglm:That's what a lot of people don't know. The supreme court has already made it clear the party that Opobo belongs to. Ibani Revisionism won't change anything |
godofuck231:The Ijaws did not buy his freedom. He was bought as a slave, but he freed himself back into the Igbo fold |
LegendHero:Stop being a dunce. Check out the number of LIKES he got for the nonsense he sent off yesterday. Even if he didn't get any help from the owners ( which I seriously doubt ), he has a bunch of enablers, who are so disappointed at the assault I am carrying out on their fake history. Wait for my reply though. NRI = THE KINGDOM TO THE EAST OF BENIN |
TAO11:Your crap getting to me ![]() You must be joking. Rather considering how I will smack you historical asss |
TAO11:People, this is a proof that the owner(s) of nairaland is/are working in tandem with TAO11, feeding him with various information which they hope, will help her in dumping her historical fraud on the unassuming forumites. They will never give me the information they are giving her, but unfortunately for you, I'm a solid NRI G that knows his historical onions. Even your Ooni has told you of Igbo accomplishments in times gone by, but these upstarts feel they know more than the traditional Yoruba high priest |
TAO11:TAO11 the fake historian ![]() You have fallen into my several traps biatch. My reply will come hopefully tomorrow or Saturday, all things being equal, but before then, I invite every Igbo person to listen to this interview which I just got the link of. Quite informative to those who want to learn a little. The guest is Prince Chukwuemeka Onyesoh, whose great grand father was Eze Nri Enwelana I. He was the first Eze Nri ever to approve the use of military force, in battling the slave trade somewhere in Southern Igboland. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4pa0AsVmCE&feature=youtu.be Also, the attachment below shows Ife, Benin and Nri positions on the map. Nri clans have common boundary with Awka. Distances on the map are scaled/propotional. For ease of understanding, I also added two lines. One line from Ife to Benin. The other line from Nri to Benin. It will seem as though I am dealing with a huge dunce, so some of these things will have to be spelt out. I wrote initially that the distance from Benin to Nri was nearly 19 moons, and I still stand on that point. Crossing the 1 mile-wide river Niger will be almost equivalent to covering about 10 miles on land, because there were no river-crossing service then. It may take the party about a day or two to find an appropriate vehicle to use to cross the river, during which, someone walking on land may have covered about 10 miles, so I want you to bear that in mind. Please I want everyone to be ruminating over the above point, and wait for my reply which will expose this great fraud TAO11, who obviously seems to be working with the owner of nairaland, and possibly some of the Yoruba irrendentist politicians and historians. So if IFE means EAST, does IFE also mean EAST OF BENIN?? Quack jobs!!! Now for the joker I threw in yesterday. Today, I was expecting you to send in the picture of this brass helmet, but you didn't. Anyway, I have taken the liberty to attach it here. It is named ODODUWA mask, but let us even assume they made a mistake, and instead the real name is ODUDUWA mask. Thanks for bringing this issue up. That was exactly why I asked you to send in any such evidence, so that it won't be me sending them in, before you twist it to mean something else. Wait for my coming reply biatch ![]() Sometime ago, you even started claiming that the Eze Nri visited the Ooni to pay respects. Another falsehood from an irredeemable fraud we all know as TAO11. Wait for my reply on this also. I am gonna have some fun replying to your trash
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BrownLondon:Fixed |
why does she have the head piece of a pusssy, covering her pusssy? ![]() |
Very shortly Yorubas will start flooding this thread with half-breeds to represent Yoruba beauty. Just watch out for Yoruba-Oyibo women, or Yoruba-Igbo women e.t.c pictures |
TAO11:I don't believe you even raised the first question, especially after you had already determined that Ife is 19 moons away. Just by mere looking at the position and distance of any of the core Nri towns, and comparing that against the position and the distance of Ife, it is clear you have no point. On a straight line, Ife to Benin, is slightly a little longer than Nri to Benin. What does that tell you, vis-a-vis the calculation you made for Ife, in which you came up with a figure of 19 moons? 1, Ife is to the northwest of Benin while Nri is to the EAST OF BENIN (Nri's direction matches the records of early Portuguese) 2. Ife is about 19 moons away from Benin, while Nri is also approximately 19 moons away from Benin, according to your calculations for Ife (both Ife and Nri are near enough to the distance/time noted by the early Portuguese) So from the above, the score is 2 - 1 in favour of Nri However in my estimation, these journeys were not straight-forward, so one had to know the towns they stop over to rest and stay in. What this means is that it requires a little bit more sophisticated mathematics to determine. One will need knowledge of the towns they stop over in, the knowledge of Pythagoras theorem, sine, cosine and tangent rules. And to determine the curves in the journey, one needs an appreciable knowledge of calculus. In my estimation, if a more exact science is applied, it may extend the trip to Nri to a little over 20 moons, while the journey to Ife, will then take about 21 moons So basically the OGHENE n'NRI (NSHI) resided and still resides in a kingdom to the EAST OF BENIN, and is APPROXIMATELY 20 MOONS JOURNEY away. The OGHENE n'UHE resided and still resides in a kingdom to the NRI gets it. Now getting to the other points you raised which I am sure you brought up just to throw up some dust so that people will miss the point, which is that the kingdom to the EAST OF BENIN remains NRI. First of all, I noticed you did not mention the staff that the Eze Nri also issued to the past Obas. Well, we refer to it as OFO or OVO or OWHO. Nice to know that the Portuguese explorers noted that. Even up till today, a very few number of Igbo monarchs still collect their OFO from Nri. That is about the only major thing that is given, as Nri is no longer as sovereign as it once was, and as such is totally dependent on the paltry allowance the governments provide, and he receives about the same amount as any meaningless warrant chief in Anambra, so with that in mind, it will be difficult for the Nris to go all out to bestow more regal paraphernalia on deserving monarchs. Head piece is not necessarily worn on the head. The first two picture attachments prove this point. The head pieces that both the Attah of Igala and Ezenri of Oraeri wear are made of BRASS, and could be said to be shaped like SPANISH HELMETS of that period. In Nri, the head piece is called NWATA ONA. Now, whether it was placed on the head, or have always been worn around the neck, we will never know unless more evidence emerges, but for the moment, let us assume it was always worn around the neck, or maybe the Benin monarch wore his on his head. THE ASSIGNMENT I WILL GIVE YOU IS THIS: Find a picture of the Oba of Benin wearing a piece of brass helmet on his head, and a cross around his neck, and I will show you a picture of a brass helmet and a cross, the ancient Eze Nris issued the ancient Obas. It's very clear that the ancient Eze Nris most probably gave these brass masks to rulers under the Nri sphere of influence, which obviously included the OBA of BENIN. Haven't you noticed that NWATA ONA looks suspiciously like the FESTAC official mask? So basically, the Nris still crept into the mainstream African arts extravaganza, without the powers that be, knowing about it. It is officially known that Oraeri kingdom predates the Ife, Igala and Benin kingdom by many centuries, so the NWATA ONA worn by the monarch of Oraeri was definitely not copied from any of these other kingdoms, and as a matter of fact, bronze/brass casting was practiced in Igboland centuries before Yorubas and Benin got into the practice.. It will be interesting to find out when the Eze Nri of Agukwu-Nri stopped issuing some of these royal items, which includes the head piece and the cross item to these traditional rulers. Lest I forget, take a look at the last picture of the Oraeri regent. You will notice a bit of scarification on his forehead. So don't think that the white chalk applied to the face of a Benin oba being crowned, signifies Yoruba scarification. The Nris also had that practice only that our scarification works were so professionally executed. Much better than the Yoruba tiger claw marks. If you need more anthropological and historical evidence of the Nri cultural, spiritual and political overlordship over Benin, then I suggest you read this passage from the Portuguese explorers/historian one more time. "Joao de Barros in his accounts wrote of a possible pre-Christian influence in ancient Benin Kingdom:- “Among the many things which the king D. Jodo learnt from the ambassador of the king of Benin and also from Joao Afonso d Aveiro of what they had been told by the inhabitants of these regions was that to the east of Benin Kingdom at twenty moons journey which according to their account and the short journeys they made would be about two hundred and fifty of our leagues (5.556km or 3.456 is a league) there lived the most powerful monarch of these parts who was called “Ogane”. Among the pagan chiefs of the territories of Benin, Ogane was held in as great veneration as is the supreme Pontif with us. “In accordance with a very ancient custom, the King of Benin, on ascending the throne, sends ambassadors to Ogane with rich gifts to announce that by the decease of his predecessor, he has succeeded to the Kingdom of Benin and request confirmation. To signify his assent, the Prince Ogane sends the King a staff and a head piece of shining brass fashioned like a Spanish helment in place of a crown and scepter. He also sends a cross, likewise of brass to be worn round the neck, a holy and religious emblem similar to that worn by the KNIGHTS of the order of Saint JOHN. Without these emblems the people do not recognize the King as lawful ruler, nor can he call himself truly king.” “All the time this ambassador is at the court of Ogane, he never sees the Prince, but only the curtains of silk behind which he sits, for he is regarded as sacred. When the ambassador is leaving, he is shown a foot below the curtains as a sign that the Prince is within and agrees to the matters that he has raised; this foot they reverence as thought it were a sacred relic” “As a kind of reward for the hardships of such a journey, the ambassador receives a small CROSS, similar to that sent to the King, which is thrown around his neck to signify that he is free and exempt from all servitudes and privileged in his native country as the KNIGHTS are with us. “In the year 1510 A.D Certain ambassadors of the king of Benin came to this kingdom, among whom was a man about seventy years of age who was wearing one of these CROSSES. I asked him the reason and he gave me an explanation similar to the above."
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BabaRamota1980:You and your sister TAO11 are arguing blindly. I know the NRI exploits of old, have made it impossible for you revisionists, to outdo the great Igbo race historically speaking |
BabaRamota1980:Enugu does not even have an Igwe or Eze so I don't know what you are on about. Have you ever heard of Igwe Enugu or Eze Enugu? I don't think I have. Of course the Ngwo people and Nike may have their traditional rulers. But I have no idea whether they are ancient royal stools or those that were created by the colonial authorities |
BabaRamota1980:Some ancient Igbo monarchies are fully hereditary. e.g Nnewi Some are partially hereditary e.g Nri, in the sense that out of the 4 core Nri lineages, the Agukwu lineage provides the Eze Nris. Within Agukwu, there are a few families that then provide the Eze Nris. The Eze Nri stool of Oraeri predates the Igala, Ife, Benin stools by many centuries. Oraeri stool is probably as ancient as Igodomigodo The Eze Nri in Agukwu predates them all. Even the Portuguese explorers and historians of the 1400s authenticated that point, when they mentioned the priest-king to the East of Benin, who to all intents and purposes, was culturally, spiritually and somewhat politically in charge of Benin. Need I say/write more |
IDENNAA:Enugwu-ukwu bu diokpala, mana obu ndi Agukwu na-echi Eze NRI. Sooso ofu diokpala chinugolu Eze NRI. Afaya bu Nri-Menri. Obunya bu diokpala Eri. Eniliya n'Eriaka di na Aguleri |
IDENNAA:Esirom Enugwu-ukwu. Abum onye Enugwu-Agidi. Ndi Enugwu-ukwu na Agukwu na-akpa nnukwu aghala |
BabaRamota1980:Did Basden write that there was NO king in NRI?. The king that was on the throne when Basden was there was Eze NRI Obalike, who reigned from the late 1800s to 1936. Before him, was Eze NRI Enwelana I. Eze Nris are seen as priest-kings. Because they are/were kings in a few territories and high priests in others. Their kingdom is a subset of their priestdom. |
BabaRamota1980:You make me laugh. So "ts" is now the anchor of your point There is ACHALA town in Anambra, which one can as well spell as ATSALA. I even have ACHALA village within my town. So that puts paid to this your line of argument. Up until the 1960s, it was Nri priests that officiated in the coronation of any Obi of Onitsha. Nowadays, the process is carried out by an Onitsha person whose mother must hail from Nri. Northcote W. Thomas (1910-1913), the government anthropologist published his work in 1913. In his book Anthropological Report on the Igbo Speaking Peoples of Nigeria, Part I, he wrote: "The Eze Nri, or King of Nri town otherwise known as Aguku, is a somewhat striking figure… He is the spiritual potentate over a large extent of the Ibo country, and so great is the awe which he inspires that recently, when, probably for the first time in history, an Eze Nri entered the native court of Awka while a sitting was going on, the whole assembly rose and prepared to flee.” So as you can see, Kings have always existed in Nri |
BabaRamota1980:As Basden rightly pointed out, the Nri clan is to the east of Onitsha. The seat of Eze Nri is in Agukwu, and from Onitsha, just a 35 minutes drive gets you to the modern Nri town. I'm sure you know that London is the capital of England. And the monarchs of England mainly stay in London. Also, once one visits Manchester, it can be said the person has visited England. But imagine a situation, where London, then decides to adopt the name England, it will start seeming as though the queen of England is just the queen of London. The confusion will come up because ENgland was originally the name of a country, but later on, one of the cities within England adopted the name. That is exactly what happened with Nri town. There was never an Nri town. There was is always an Nri clan. Before they settled for Nri town, it was initially called Agukwu-Nri. Before Agukwu-Nri, it was known as Agukwu, a few hundreds of years ago. It is just too complicated that it will take me many pages of writing to explain the intricacies, but I hope you get the picture. Now, there was always an Eze Nri. It is today, the oldest royal stool in NIgeria. As I wrote in my previous reply, the Eze Nri was a true king in the Nri clan hundreds of years ago, but was a spiritual and cultural papal figure, in much of Igboland, Igodomigodo, Benin, Igala territories |
BabaRamota1980:Oraeri is one of the few Igbo towns with an EZE before the coming of the white man. According to Nri accounts, there were already about 60+ Igbo Ezes/Igwes before the coming of the white man. But places like Igbo-Ukwu, Enugwu-Agidi(Nri clan), Enugwu-Ukwu(Nri clan) e.t.c. did not have traditional rulers. It was the colonial government that spread that practice throughout every Igbo town. Just to make a few points clearer, Nri is a clan, the core of which are Enugwu-Ukwu, Enugwu-Agidi, Agukwu and Nawfia. The Eze came from the Agukwu lineage, and the first born lineage is Enugwu-Ukwu. However, some decades ago, Agukwu and two other non-Nri villages of Akamkpisi and Diodo adopted the name Nri (hence Nri town), much to the chagrin of the other core Nri clan towns, and set off a feud that has lingered on till date. That's majorly why a lot of people are not aware of Nri achievements, but once peace sets in, the Nri clan will do the needful to ensure every Igbo man is abreast of what IGBONESS really is, and what Igbos did in the past. Back then, the Eze Nri was the political leader of the 4 core Nri towns, and the spiritual/cultural leader of much of Igboland, Igodomigodo, Benin empire, Igala kingdom and maybe some other far flung non-Igbo territories. Eri was the father of Nri-Menri (the ancestor of the Nris), Agulu (the ancestor of Aguleri), Igbariam e.t.c and his last born male was Onoja (the ancestor of the Igalas who relocated to Idah) There are villages in Nri towns that have Eri in them such as UmuOkpalaEri in Enugwu-Ukwu, IruKpalaEri in Nawfia. So usually places that have Eri attached to the names will normally have Nri ancestry (e.g Oraeri) or other people descended from Eri (e.g AguluEri, UmulEri) |
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