Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by OgundeleT(m): 8:16am On Jul 06, 2015 |
STEVENcrack: That's if you are willing to penitently ask for his forgiveness.. And if i dont ask for forgiveness what will he do? |
Politics › Re: Tinubu And Akande Sold The South West - George by OgundeleT(m): 4:59am On Jul 06, 2015 |
Is he on exile already? |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by OgundeleT(m): 4:28am On Jul 06, 2015 |
STEVENcrack: Let me clear it out for ya! God's forgiveneSs is a constant 'K'. God created us as a free moral agent to choose btw life and darkness. good or bad. Eternal life or eternal damnation. Remember the prodigal son and come back to your father(God) he's willing to take u back in his arms again. Please. Since his forgiveness is constant K then why disturbing urself? That means he will forgive my innocent soul bcus he know he's the one to blame by creating devil that he know can convince me. |
Christianity Etc › Re: W by OgundeleT(m): 3:56am On Jul 06, 2015 |
CaptainJune: God knew they would sin but being a just God He created them to give them a chance to serve Him along with those who serve Him faithfully. That's all I know about the reason for creating them. His just nature makes Him create light and darkness, saints and sinners, heaven and hell, good and evil. He does not create one and leave the other.
Read Ezekiel 28:13-15 and Psalm 104:4
In fact, according to the law of Moses, nearly everything was purified with blood. For without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness (Hebrews 9:22). Read also Leviticus 17:11. You will know why Jesus had to sacrifice His life on the cross.
Angels who rebel against God have no way of atoning for their sins because that would mean regeneration or transformation. Now, as spirits if they were to be regenerated, what state would they change into? Spirits? They're already spirits. The blood of Christ can only work on spirits not in their final state, something made possible by the presence of physical flesh. Once the flesh dies, no regeneration is possible for that man especially if he died in his sins. There is no repentance in the grave. This means no man can repent after death because he is then in his final state.
Once found in a state of sin where regeneration is impossible, the person is just like weed or waste that is meant only for the fire. God does not delight in punishing people by sending them to hell but that their sins make forgiveness impossible and punishment inevitable. All i can see here is just that God is to be blame for being JUST, u av just proven that human being is even innocent. God creat devil he himself know will rebel against him and he also know they will convince human being? who should we blame? Not devil but ur bible god. hear urself, God create devil he know will rebel and convince human being and then he will now burn human being the devil convince? Who is now more wicked? The convincer or the burner? |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by OgundeleT(m): 3:38am On Jul 06, 2015 |
Suspect33: God never wanted it to be so, he created human being in purity, but we defiled ourselves by disobeying his command, thereby making it impossible to live in holiness, but God in his mercy sent us Jesus Christ to wash away our sins so that we can attain that purity that we lost in disobedience.. Isn't that mercy?..... The billions of pple who u say are going to hell, are pple who hav chosen the way of the devil, the devil has been condemned already, nd anybody who chooses his way is automatically condemned wit him... Nd pls pray that God wash away the lies that the enemy has planted in your heart Firstly u av proven that God is not omniscient bcus he didnt know we'll defy his order Secondly, u claim that God sent jesus to clean people's sin? Is it necessary that God need to kill his son b4 he forgive? does he want to drink blood? how can u call a god who kill his son for a sin he never commit a merciful god? The action here shows that god of bible is cruel and does not have mercy. Also, ur bible claim that jesus woke up the 3rd day after he had died? To me that is no more a sacrifice, if u call it a sacrifice what shall we call that of our soldiers who are dying in north east just to make sure we are alive? Remember there family wont see them again unlike jesus who later woke up the third day. All i can see in dis ur write up is just that god doesnt know anything about what he created, he knows nothing about what will happen in the world therefore it is sufficient to prove that ur Bilble God is not omniscient |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by OgundeleT(m): 4:01pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Suspect33: then you have willingly chosen to spend eternity in hell.. In the book of ezekiel, God say he takes no pleasure in the death of a sinner but that the sinner should repent and turn back to him... Hell was made for the devil, but those who choose to follow the ways of the devil will end up in the destination of the devil, the devil know that he has a little time left that is why he wants to drag so many to hell, bt i have a good news, Jesus christ hav given us authority to trample on the devil and he will not hurt us, go to Jesus today and forsake your sins.. Be blessed That means billions of people who dont accept jesus are all hell bound? And few peoplewho accept him will be in heaven? And u call that god a merciful god? stop fooling urself there is no any heaven or hell anywhere |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by OgundeleT(m): 3:08pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Suspect33: i was once like you(ignorant), till i encounter Jesus... U might be thinking that God is unfair, and he made heaven so hard to enter, but i tell u that its the lie of the devil, he wnts u to doubt the love of God... Go to Jesus today and ask him to have mercy on you and give you the grace not to go back to your vomit(past sin) ... Remain blessed And if i dont go to jesus what will happen? |
Christianity Etc › Re: W by OgundeleT(m): 3:03pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
CaptainJune: God can never forgive satan or the angels that rebelled against Him.
Satan and the angels who sinned against God were originally created perfect, without sin unlike man. They used to dwell in the presence of God. They saw God, knew His laws but deliberately rebelled against Him. and God didnt know they will rebel against him b4 he created them? Besides, they were created in their complete state so that any sin they committed would attract eternal punishment[/quote]can u prove this with a bible verse? as there is no way the sin(s) of a spirit can be atoned for by physical blood which is the only atonement for sins. That's why Jesus had to die on the cross to shed His spotless blood for the forgiveness of the sins of man, not angels.[/quote]Why is it neccesary for God to kill b4 he forgive? Cant he forgive without killing anybody or he want to drank blood b4 he can? Besides, God has already said the fate of Satan is hell fire and He honours His Word above His name.[/quote]what will God derive in burning satan? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Refuse To Give My Tithe To Any Church by OgundeleT(m): 2:50pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Give ur money to the needy directly, tithe is in old testament and we are now in grace period. or may be u want them to use ur money to pay their body guard or to fuel their jets or their luxury car |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Heaven Really Pure & Without Sin? by OgundeleT(m): 1:23pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
U nailed it OP. dem no fit answer the question |
Christianity Etc › Re: Questions Christians Should Find Answers To by OgundeleT(m): 1:20pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Good of u OP. No one can answer this and if they can, thousands of question are still on ground |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Create Man? by OgundeleT(m): 1:12pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
CaptainJune: Op, your post only goes to prove how your little (our actually) mind cannot fathom the ways of God.
Let me correct many wrong notions in your write-up.
Angels also have free will just as man has. That's why after Lucifer rebelled along with his angels another set of angels rebelled against God by sleeping with women. If angels obeyed God like machines, there wouldn't have been any history of angelic rebellion let alone sin.
Bowing to man is not the reason Lucifer rebelled. He coveted the throne and influence of God. He nurtured pride which brought about his fall.
God has nature. One of the aspects of His nature is love, another is wisdom, another is might and so on. Qualities of God. However, as important as these qualities of God are His just and terrible nature. His just nature makes Him create something or someone even when He well knows they will disobey Him and cause havoc and destruction. By creating them He gives the bad a fair chance of existence as He does the good. His terrible nature makes Him the terrible, fearful God He is when He punishes or when in judgment in the afterlife. That just nature of His made Him create Lucifer and the myriads of angels that rebelled against Him.
Yes man was created much different from angels. God created angels from light but He made man in His own image, that's to have His characteristics, resemblance, dominion..to resemble Him. That's why the Bible calls man gods, a statement confirmed by Jesus Christ in the New Testament. God the Father created or 'gave birth' to His children, gods. Man is much much greater in position and authority than the angels. It's only man that God created to be a little lower than Him. In case you don't know, man will judge the world and angels.....to be contd Pls can u back all these ur claims with bible verses? |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss Heaven Who Would You Blame. by OgundeleT(m): 1:00pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
I will blame God who create me in a faulty world, I Will blame him for creating devil and I will blame because he's not omniscient bcus if he's he would have know my destination before he created me |
Christianity Etc › Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by OgundeleT(m): 10:47am On Jul 05, 2015 |
johnydon22: Op is just employing god of the gap argument . . . " i don't know how this happened, so a god did it". . .quite funny isn't it? Yes o. Bcus if u claim u know who create universe u must be able to prove it logically how it happened. The book they use as a reference point to back there claim is full of loopholes and contradictions |
Christianity Etc › Re: Clear My Curiosity by OgundeleT(m): 10:43am On Jul 05, 2015 |
starlingslimnet: Wether you call it tithe or you call it offering all is giving to God .Can you sell your property and give to the poor like Christ require?If No,then Is it bad then to give a tenth or 25% of your salary to the church for the use of the poor or the gospel? Don't be blinded by your church doctrines but learn the Truth as it is the Spirit of Truth.Giving to God(offerings) is not bad but using it for the wrong purpose(Paying pastors) is bad. Thank u, i belong to no church so no one can blindfold me with his personal doctine. since the money is for the poor is it neccesary i pay it to church first or i give it to the poor directly by myself? Bcus as things stand now no rich church is helping the poor. |
Christianity Etc › Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by OgundeleT(m): 8:49am On Jul 05, 2015 |
If u claim that God created th universe please which God exactly? Xtian God or muslim God or budhist God or Sango(God of thunder) or ogun(God of Iron) |
Christianity Etc › Re: So You Dont Believe In God? by OgundeleT(m): 8:46am On Jul 05, 2015 |
We may say there is no logical science answer on how the universe was created, so also there was nothing to prove how the world was created in our various religion book. Scienctist may have not proven it, but religion know nothing at all about the universe |
Christianity Etc › Re: Clear My Curiosity by OgundeleT(m): 8:37am On Jul 05, 2015 |
starlingslimnet: 1 Jesus never replaced the Old Testament he fulfilled them.. that is making them complete. Sealing the prophecies with his blood so the forgiveness of sin is no more by the blood of goat but by the blood of Jesus Christ who is the Son Of God.
2.Tithe and offering is to be paid to Christ the High Priest. You can only do this by using your title and offering for the poor and needy for by doing that you do it for Christ.
3. Paying tithe is not wrong but your tithe spend on anything other than the gospel and the needy is unacceptable to God. The paying of Tithe in the Old testament God command that no man may lack in the land of Isreal as the Son of Levi have no inheritance. That is Why the early church use the offerings to for the needy that none may lack. Can we find anything like tithe in new testament? If no, why droping other laws in old testament and take tithe? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Clear My Curiosity by OgundeleT(m): 8:34am On Jul 05, 2015 |
If xtian can drop the rules in old testament, I think tithe should be inclusive since it is also in old testament. Tithe was never mentioned in new testament and those who even collect it in Nigeria use it to build schools that poor cant afford to pay |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Create Man? by OgundeleT(m): 8:23am On Jul 05, 2015 |
Yomieluv: God had good plans for humans,till Satan came to truncate the plan,and man has to bear the consequence of his disobedience to God.
God is a loving God,he allows man make choice of serving him ur claim just prove that God is not omniscient, so God doesnt know satan will truncate his good work? Also, why will he allow man to make a choice when he know (or may be he doesnt know) that man may choose wrong path and their destination is hell if they do, or does he like to burn human being? |
Christianity Etc › Re: New Theory On How Anti-christ (666) Mark Of The Beast, Will Take Over Nigeria. by OgundeleT(m): 8:42pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
Abeg, which language are the going to use to write the 666? French, english or chinese |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do God Actually Sit In His Throne And Allow People Go Through Pains? by OgundeleT(m): 7:14pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
taiwo850629: I will pray for the person and he/she will be healed. Just try me. You can contact me- 08107535362, 08188171420 (whatsapp), taiwo1462001@yahoo.com So ur god cant answer the prayer until they call ur number? |
Politics › Re: Why Tinubu Boycotted APC NEC Meeting – Chieftain: The SUN by OgundeleT(m): 5:38pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
When are we going to rest with Tinubu did this Tinubu did that? Leave this man alone |
Politics › Re: “i’m Too Big For Such” – Ekiti PDP Chieftain Rejects Fayose’s Appointment by OgundeleT(m): 12:24pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
OREMUSSANCTUS: Fayose our man D real jagaban of modern south west politics D oshokomole of yorubaland D man whose political wisdom surpasses dat of awolowo cum abiola cum tinubu cum obasanjo D greatest and finest politician in d history of southwest We d nigerian youths say kudos for a job well done, and may u continue to be a role model for us.
Only enemies of d yorubas will condemn fayose May be u are one of his thug |
Business › Re: Dead Man Withdraws N4.3M From Union Bank In Kaduna: Mysterious by OgundeleT(m): 12:15pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
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