₦airaland Forum

lawani:
The leader of Yoruba in Anambra say there are 500k Yorubas there. An Igbo woman told me Hausas in Enugu May out number Igbos and I know people from Ilesa in Enugu. Lagos is not more cosmopolitan than Abuja, Kaduna, PH, Onitsha etc. But Lagos have more population as in double the next state to it most probably. It is merely population caused by the efficiency of the LASG. Any state could have done it. Yoruba investment in other places is more than non Yoruba investment in Yoruba land. They can buy everybody out, so there is no big deal. However territory is territory and Yoruba territory is different from Hausa territory. Nowhere like Sabongari Kano in Lagos or other parts of the SW that has been handed over to others. I believe Yoruba maybe eighty percent of Lagos at least. I agree with you that if SS Igbos are added to SE Igbos it will swell the population because many Igbos I know are SS Igbos from Anioma and etc but if zone by zone, SS will most likely surpass the SE in population in Lagos. Don't be deceived by the mix you see in some markets and not the majority of markets because for every ten people selling in the market, there may be two hundred in other places. There is no city you will enter in the North that Yorubas will not surpass Igbos. In ABU Ondo students Union has always been the largest. Futminna, Unijos, Unimaid is the same story and those are undeniable
stats. Therefore anytime you count, you find more Yorubas but it is not so in Eastern universities like Unical and etc where there are more Igbos than Yorubas. In my class at OAU, it was an healthy mix of Itsekiri, Igala, Igbos, Benin, Tiv, and etc. Everybody is everywhere. If Yoruba are not that much in Lagos, why are they controlling everything by almost 100 percent?. Anambra is doing the same thing and non Igbos in Anambra have a very high population but no elective posts at all. Enugu is doing the same and etc. Why should any state be different?. It will not change in a million years. I don't agree that SE is more homogenous than others. From the onset, a place like Enugu has had a large number of Hausas and it remains so till today. If there is no restriction on movement, there is no way there will not be everybody everywhere. Let us just say each zone is at least eighty percent populated by locals. The most populated zone is SW followed by SS and NW, NC,NE and then SE. Most cosmopolitan are Abuja, Lagos, Kaduna, PH, Onitsha etc but everywhere is mixed to roughly the same level and once the whole world equalizes the mixing will intensify but national and cultural identities will remain. I however don't think any Nigerian city is as mixed as London. Mixing can not be wished away but Igbos can buy out the non Igbos in the SE ditto for the Yoruba in the SW. Igbo land will never become Yoruba land and vice versa. Igbos however can build five cities of three million each in the heart of Igbo land under twenty years as was done by Nigeria in Abuja and the place will of course be flooded by Yoruba, Hausa, Chinese Indians, Europeans and etc and the place will be under the control of Igbos without controversy. In Anambra they rig elections too as Yoruba and Hausa may be up to one million but they leave the voting to only Igbos. UN or EU observers say during the last election, there was no credible voting in the SE. Do you think if no rigging in Lagos, Igbo voters can outvote Yoruba in an ethnic voting? Even when they can not win a single LG chairmanship?.

They might be up to that number in Anambra, but then that is Anambra, it might still be an exaggeration. I saw the thread you talked about, even many yorubas who has been to Anambra on that thread doubted that figure, because there is a way the mind play on us. I will give you the 500k in Anambra, yorubas everywhere else in Igbo land will not be up to the 500k in Anambra. If at all, there are 500k Yorubas in Anambra, It is because Anambra is a heavy business place hosting 3 cities with life in them which are Onitsha, Akwa, Nnewi. I doubt it is up to at most they will be 300,000 there, even the Yorubas on that Nairaland thread where it was posted doubted. And the population of the Yorubas there are not constant as majority come for work and they leave when they are done with their business.

An Igbo woman in Enugu told you hausa people might outnumber Igbo there, that is a far cry from the truth, that is what we call hyperbolic statements in literature. Over exaggeration for the sake of emphasis. This is precipitated by the fact that they do settle in clusters, In quarters they inhabit, they usually settle alone, so when you go to these quarters, with about ten, 11, 12 street, you see their dense settlements of about 40 thousand , but really that is all to their population as compared to the greater part of Enugu. That is how they settle everywhere else.

Ilesa people might be there but they are very few. They are not sizeable.

Lagos is far more cosmopolitan than Kaduna,
Abuja, Portharcourt and Onitsha, for a lot of people leaving school, to get jobs that the pay is weighty, they tell you to come to Lagos,

Entertainment be it comedy, movies, the music industry to become a star, Lagos is the only choice and no where else.

The viable and full working ports in Nigeria are all based in Lagos.

Even the population for business is there, which drives many Igbos to that place and make them see it as the bride city in Nigeria.

No state could have done it, the city is fueled by the fact that it was the capital city of Nigeria for 85 years, it has very viable ports which attracted a lot of people from other parts of the country to it, and then where there is more population, every other thing works, it then became the entertainment hub in Nigeria, which In turn brought many other persons to it, the lag government has very few things to do with it.

Igbos investment in Lagos, ogun state, Ibadan and many other triples that of Yorubas by far, in Kano most of the houses in sabon gari are owned by the Igbos, even kaduna and many other places in the north. Their investment in Lagos is very huge. Igbos investment in Nigeria if you match it teeth to teeth with that of Yorubas, it’s more than three times that of Yoruba by a mile.

The Hausas usually hand out settlements because they don’t want a mix, an alteration, an adulteration of their culture, they don’t want any short skirts girl settling among them, that does not mean the population of Igbos in Lagos that settle among Yoruba people would not fill 5 sabon garis in Kano. That does not mean that Lagos is not by far a more cosmopolitan enclave than Kano.

Yorubas eighty percent of Lagos? You are a clown. Yorubas will not be eighty percent of Ogun state presently as we speak, if you know what is good for you, go and drive those Igbos out of your land. The combined population of Igbos in Yoruba land cannot be less than 7 million and the ones in Lagos are at the very least 4 million, that is a fair figure in today’s world. Yorubas at most will be 8 million today in Lagos.

That is a lie, there is no city in Kano where Yorubas surpass Igbo, i have been to all the major cities in Kano, From sabon gari to wudil, Rano, Dala even in their villages as far as garko, i still saw an Igbo Man there.

Even in kaduna, there is still sizeable population of Igbos, From kaduna, to kanfanchan to Zaria. The population of Yorubas in kaduna main town is sizeable,but then again the number of Igbos in kafanchan, Jos,makurdi,Yola,even Zaria is very large, even in Abuja, the number of Igbos is shocking that elrufai was quoted to say that Igbos own 70 percent of the properties in Abuja. I don’t know if the Igbos went there to school but day to day interface in these towns unveils you to more Igbos than Yorubas.

Igbos in Nigeria are not majorly concerned about local elections in Lagos state. They for the first time wanted a change in Peter obi and his governorship candidate that’s why they were enmeshed in this particular election that just passed. You should have given them a fair chance in Lagos to vote for gbadebo. Let us see if sanwo olu would have emerged with the block votes they would have given gbadebo. The only way to know if they can outvote you guys is if the fair chance was given. Sanwo Olu and his master knew better that is why they did not give them that chance.

9jakool:
Very few people point this out, but there are Yoruba-speaking minority communities in Ovia.
I don't know the popularity of Usen dialect today, but the town of Usen and the surrounding communities in Ovia NE speak a distinct Yoruba dialect.
Yoruba communities in Ovia NE local government include
Egbeta
Usen
Ilorin
Ogbese
Ago Panu
Uhen

The Ikale dialect can be found in parts of Ovia SW local government area adjacent to Irele Local Government in Ondo state.
The Yoruba speaking communities in Ovia SW include
Siluko
Ago Akinde
Kekere
Foniyege
Lakolako
Gbelemotin Oke
Gbelemotin Odo

this same Uhen, that man spoke fluent exquisite Bini, according to the video he said he is 98 years old. He said not only that the community speak Bini, it was founded by Bini ancestors, so do well to interpret to your people what this man said if you can. I would

I am happy that our internet mobile Binis are now leaving Benin city to inquire about the history of those in the Interiors. This man would never know they claimed his community as Yoruba, even the Bini youths there who are majorly farmers and are not internet mobile due to poor internet connection in the place .

I don’t know the history of Usen that much but I know they have already been entrenched as an Edo speaking community long ago in preceding centuries. This i know because of already ancient families that descended from Usen. Ogbebor’n’usen etc ogbebor is an Edo word

Isiluko is also an Edo word and certainly was established by Edo migrants. As the word Isiluko can only be dissected by an Edo man. ISI means a place,a site. The site therefore of an Uloko tree. I know Binis still inhabit that community but they seem not to be in the majority anymore . The majority i learnt of this community should be the Ijaws.

Never heard of the others they must be really small communities, except Ogbesee and Egbetta. Though never been to Ogbesse and Egbetta, so can’t really complement on that








https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jTJTIOssJc?si=wA39PX80jsOkcQdC

OlaoChi:
Benin Empire you mean? and then Edo state is already more than half of the former Empire but after Invasion 1897 the empire lost its power and the Kingdom was restricted to its originally environs where the people speak Edo

The people you say are lying are giving details form town to town of an area that is known to be complex you are simply making a barging statement that frankly doesn't do justice to the Akoko area. What will you say about Akoko in Kogi state and Ondo state. What about Etsako and others who are not Edo speaking areas but have their own language?

They have their own language but it’s Edoid. Etsako is a strong Edo group that evolved into Edoid because of The Nupe migrants they received, the word Otaru is also nupe

However some of their dialects can also be largely considered Edo because they have been laced heavily with Esan . E.g Agbelo dialect of Agenebode and Agbede.guage. It’s just that many of them use the Iyekhee dialect for communication which would be at most to Bini what Igala is to Yoruba.

This whole dialect and language is not what one should be resolute about. Esan and Bini already are dialects of the same langauge.

scholes0:
This Edo Akure man, Yoruba-Benin fraud want to come and defraud Ivbi Edo.
Anyways, Edo governorship is the turn of EBHO ESAN aka Edo central no matter what anybody says.

bros Osaigbovo Olumide Akpata is a Bini man, an Oviedo and he has a right to contest

lawani:
Rivers population is around half of Lagos population. Yorubas in Rivers too can form a state and I don't agree that SE Igbos outnumber Yorubas in PH. Yorubas in Kaduna can form a small state like Ekiti or Bayelsa. If Igbos are 4 million in Lagos then Hausas too are 4 million and SS are also 4 million then others like Northern minorities are 4 million at least making 16 million and Yoruba will be less than 4 million. Everybody is in Lagos and not only Igbos. Check very well and you will realize SS are more than SE in Lagos. However so far, Yoruba have been able to maintain grip on over ninety percent of positions just like Northerners are controlling Kaduna, Igbo control Anambra and Ikwerre control PH despite the cosmopolitan nature of those places.

The East is as heterogenous as other places. There are Hausa as well as Yoruba dominated industries in the East

Rivers population might be half the population of Lagos state but initially you talked about port harcourt and not the whole of Rivers state. Outside port harcourt, you will only find Yorubas in minute numbers in every other places. The combined population of Yorubas in Rivers state would not be more than 500,000 if you are being sincere to yourself, this same rivers state, you have Ogoni, you have Ekpeye , Degema, Kalabari , Ndoni, Egbema, Etche and Omuma, Engenni, etc

Ikwerre and Ogoni have a population of at least 3 million.

Etche, Ogba, Ndoni,Ndoki, Omuma would have a combined population of about 2 million

Ekpeye, Degema, Kalabari, Engenni, Abual Andoni, Bonny Opobo etc cannot be less than 2 million. It is more let us leave it like that,

Then you have migrant population from across all divide but worthy mention is Ijaws from other state, Annang/Efik/Ibibio/Oron, Igbos and the Yorubas

Igbos naturally migrate to Rivers state because Igbo indigenous groups are naturally about 45 % of Rivers state so they migrate there more because they feel at home in “ Igweocha “ it is not even a contest, Ikwerres emergence in Rivers state is largely aided by the Igbos there. Even Igbos from Abia and IMO states alone in Rivers state are more than yorubas there.

Then you have the Annang/Efik/Oron/Ibibio extraction in port harcourt and they can be found even in the interiors of rivers state.

Yorubas are the third largest group in rivers state.

No the south south are not more than the south east in Lagos, you forget that 15 to 20 percent of south south are 1gbos. For us not be confused, you have to add their population. I mean the combined migrants population of the Igbos from whatever extraction whether the south east and the south south cannot be less than four million in Lagos.It is so fair a number

Then the other combined groups from the south south, Efik/Ibibio/Annang/Oron would take the lead. They are mini Igbos and they are also very many,you have the Urhobos taking the second position as a non Igbo tribe in the south south, Bini, Esan, Isoko, Itsekiri,Ijaw . They should be about 2-5 to 3 million.

Hausas and other tribes in the north cannot really be less than six million. Hausas about 4 million and the other northern tribes, a cumulative population of about two million. It would have been more but this is so, because the other northern tribes such as tiv,Igala and Idoma prefer traveling to Abuja and Kano than Lagos. When you combine the figures, I have calculated thus far, that will bring it to about 12 to thirteen million. Yorubas in Lagos would have a simple majority of about 8 million.


The combined population of Yorubas in the north west will form a small state like Ekiti. I would agree, not kaduna alone.

Then again if you combine the population of Igbos in wudil/Kano/Rano/kafanchan/Zaria/kaduna city and every other states in the south west. It would form a medium state like Osun

The yorubas are able to control grip of the political process in the state because they use force and manipulation. They don’t allow fair democratic process

The yorubas and the Hausas combined in the entire south east would not be more than one million, and that is an absolute stretch, most of the yoruba masons that go there to work return back to their abode because the Igbo man is largely hostile and cost of land in Igbo land would not allow other tribes settle there. Even the Hausas that come there for trade return to their place immediately after they have gotten what they want. However the fashion industry, the Yorubas dominate. The east is by far the most homogeneous region in Nigeria and it is not even news

lawani:
For instance, Hausas will not agree that Igbos outnumber them in Lagos and I myself can not say for sure. I believe Yoruba presence in PH might be more by percentage than Igbo presence in Lagos. Maiduguri people say more Yoruba are there than in Igbos and if you use data like how many students in Unimaid are Yoruba versus Igbo you will realize the claim is true. Jos, Kano and etc will be thesame way but among traders you are likely to have more Igbos. Among fisher men in the SS, you will see times ten Yoruba than Igbo and etc etc. So unless there is a thorough census there is no way of being sure. What we know is that LASG is employing 500k people and maybe eighty percent are Yoruba and that will be ten percent of Lagos work force. It is the remaining 4.5 million workers to be shared with others. Of the hundreds of industries, how many are dominated by non Yorubas?. Most mechanics, tailors, carpenters, plumbers, teachers, oil workers, petrol station owners, transporters, factory owners and etc are Yoruba by up to seventy percent and also most oja obas are dominated by Yoruba women selling everything. You only find Igbos dominating specialized trading like spare parts and etc. So that is how to calculate and that is why over ninety percent of Lagos politics is Yoruba controlled

how is the politics of Lagos Yoruba controlled when you guys don’t allow Igbos vote freely? My oluomo and Tinubu are aware of the population of Igbos in Lagos state

There are many privately owned businesses in Lagos in fact 80% of companies in Lagos are privately owned


You can’t compare ph size to Lagos, Lagos is at least five times the size of ph and the number of Igbos in Lagos would create another full state elsewhere. I am not so certain of the figures of Igbos in Lagos, it can’t be less than four million.

Then again that is the point, if you combine the total population of Igbos and Hausas in Lagos, it would give a staggering figure of 8 million, then Urhobo, Bini, Berom , Esan isoko, Efik, Ibibio and members from the other 250 ethnic groups and even outside Nigeria.

I have been to Kano state before, the population of Igbos in Sabon Gari and no man’s land is in excess of two million as sabon gari is densely populated

Lagos really has that popularity and everybody wants to associate with it, little wonder why the 3,500km2 of state has that much population,

The population of Igbos in Abuja would rival whatever other population the Yorubas has elsewhere in the north.

Igbos have large presence in kaduna state too, they are in their numbers in Zaria, Kaduna, kafanchan and so many other cities there.

The population of Igbos In portharcourt is more than the Yorubas in portharcourt. Igbos I mean those from south east extraction. It is the support the Ikwerres have gotten from south east Igbos, that is why they have dominated the rivers state politics for long. Until recently when Wike decided to shell power to an Ijaw. Ijaws would not have tasted power for the next fifty years. If not the conscious decision by wike.

Why I said we can leave Lagos out is because the migration population in Ogun and Oyo state, or wherever place in the other south west would totally rival the pop of Yorubas In Lagos

For example, the East is the most homogeneous region in Nigeria

lawani:
If this statement is true, peradventure it is true, then the same is true for Onitsha, Aba, Enugu, Kaduna, Kano, Maiduguri, Jos, Calabar, Benin, Abakaliki, Owerri, Umuahia and etc. No border against migration and Yoruba, Hausa etc dispersed inside Nigeria are higher in number than Igbos.

the Yorubas dispersed in Nigeria cannot be more than the Igbos now, go to Owo, I mean Owo, small Owo
The number of Igbos I saw there shocked me. That is why they say Owos are usually fair because they are intermarrying now even Ondo town,

Let’s us not even talk about Lagos and states close to her. The combination of the population other tribes in Lagos is so frightening now, that they force other tribes not to vote.

An Igbo man talking about going to the city is actually talking about going to Lagos, even they have sizeable numbers in Abuja and Kano too. But that of Lagos is off the hook. I have nothing against Yorubas, but I don’t want us to see it as a south west glory except you will leave Lagos out of it then I might grudgingly consider.

scholes0:
Shioor.. 50% foreigners ko, 100% Aliens ni.
those figures for the SW you see there is nothing less than 85% Yoruba. And Lagos is the ony reason it is even that low. All other tribes have the other 15%
You better go think of how to save ur region from massive brain and labour drain

where is Lalasticlala sef....

Haba, the population of Igbos, Hausa, Urhobo, Bini, and residents from the south and the north, would only put the combined population of Yorubas in Lagos at most 40%. Ogun state is also very cosmopolitan, Even Ibadan, rent increased greatly as a result of the migration they have received. My brother, the south west region in Nigeria is the most heterogeneous region in Nigeria,

Even Osogbo, I have seen many threads whereby southeasterners were shocked about the constant light situation in Osogbo and thought of migrating there. The population of Yorubas in the south west would be at best 60%, it can’t be more ., with Lagos being a huge part of the population of south west, even Ogun and Oyo, coupled with the fact that there are many Hausas and fulanis in many villages in the south west. It is a far cry from being 85%. Even 70% is not comprehendable.

RedboneSmith:
LOL. And where are all of you hiding? Many Nigerians will attest that they have never met an Ijaw person. I've lived in all the geopolitical zones of Nigeria, and the only place I remember running into a significant number of Ijaw people was in Port Harcourt. And even there I still met more Igbos than Ijaws.

Ijaws are not even number 4. Ibibios, Fulani and possibly even Kanuris outnumber you guys.

Even the Tivs are larger than Ijaws, they are in Benue, in Nassarawa and Taraba substantially then they also have alarming population in Kaduna and Kano plus many other northern states

another1:
Otabor is Agbor name in Delta State

Ogbeni Otabor is Bini, you guys bear it too because you received a lot of Bini migrant. If I tell you to give me the meaning of the name na you cant. And this girl right is a pure Bini girl paternally albeit with an Igbo mother

She is from EDO STATE but grew up in the east. Does Okoebor sound Igbo to you. She said it herself when she was been introduced into the house by Ebuka

SecretReporter:
nah the woman be edo, get ur fact right

Shut up you don't know anything. The guy is related to and is from the same family Ephraim Akpata and Tayo Akpata is from and those are well known Bini men. How do you reconcile that facts neophyte. Everyone knows this, you alone is ignorant of this fact. A simple Google search will help you. Go claim another person. You can as well just tell me that Tayo akpata(the late Ima of BENIN KINGDOM) that Obaseki named the college of education Ekiadolor after (whom this man is paternally related to)is uvwie and urhobo make I just know say I know go take you serious

SecretReporter:
the man is from delta state

The man is from Edo state, you shut up