₦airaland Forum

Aiel123:
Asue v Monday
Akpata of LP is not in the race to win.
APC needs Oshiomole more than even air if they are going to win.
PDP needs the renegades group lead by Orbih and co... though I'm yet to see Orbih strength as he has never won his lga all through his political sojourn for PDP.
Who the Binis want would have a slender edge

senatordave1:
You lie.esan always vote pdp no matter what.something extraordinary like obi must make them vote otherwise.one thing about edolites is that they vote for those they like and they like okpebholo

KosiGee:
Yes, you are tribalism, instigator and Igbos should avoid people like you in real life. You could be worse than people like Reno Omokri.

If you had to use Ahmadu Bello’s bitter and hate filled speech to back your paranoia, you could be worse than him.

I’m Igbo and our language is vast. I’ve NEVER of any Igbo person use the word aza in the context that it’s being claim and discussed here.

If anyone know the town, people or place that use that word, kindly mention them. I don’t think it’s enough to Wikipedia. Mention the Igbo towns/people who use this word.

ABC101FF:
Accept correction and move on. The word (not a slang) azà means numbers or treasure hunt in Igbo language. There's no such word as "aza" in the Benin or any other Edo language. Again, IT IS NOT A SLANG. Wikipedia can be written or edited by anyone with basic HTML knowledge.

SpatialKing:
Na everything una they claim... 😂

Just want to be relevant by force

SpatialKing:
Is not

SpatialKing:
Is not a Benin word

Teddy0147:
The bitter truth is ibos are not among the three major tribe currently…. Let’s just wait for census…the ijaws are currently more than ibos

Swiftgrp:
Indeed it's a small enclave of 3000 km2 like you indicated... the smallest state in Nigeria, just next to Anambra.

But please NOTE that Lagos Island [NOT Lagos State] was the administrative capital of Nigeria from 1914 to 1991. The Lagos which is referred to as the capital of Nigeria or FCT is Lagos Island.

Some people [especially the younger ones who have not been paying attention to history] often mistake Lagos State as the capital or FCT, but it was Lagos Island that was the FCT.

Lagos Island infact played a DUAL ROLE as the capital of the newly created Lagos State on May 27,1967, AND the administrative capital of Nigeria. It was NOT until 1975 that the CAPITAL of Lagos State was moved from Lagos Island to Alausa in Ikeja.



You can read a more DETAILED info BELOW on Lagos Island being the DUAL capital of Lagos State and Nigeria in the past:

=> https://www.britannica.com/place/Lagos-Nigeria
Lagos, city and chief port, Lagos state, Nigeria. Until 1975 it was the capital of Lagos state, and until December 1991 it was the federal capital of Nigeria. Ikeja replaced Lagos as the state capital, and Abuja replaced Lagos as the federal capital. Lagos, however, remained the unofficial seat of many government agencies.

Gilgil:
Abegiii. He is a champion!

Na our own hare! East, West, North , South, na we get Osimhen and one Oyibo cannot come and take away our championship!

In the words of Indaboski, “Who you? Where you from?

Osimhen is a world champion from Naija. Deal with it! Who be the Rosario sef?

Swiftgrp:
It is Lagos Island (Lagos for short) that is being refered to in the screenshot that you attached here.

That's an estimated 11 percent of the 1964 population of Lagos Island (NOT Lagos State which has a larger landmass). Lagos State only came into existence for the very first time out of the 12 new states the General Yakubu Gowon's government created on May 27,1967.

More than 95 percent of the total landmass of what is now Lagos State was carved out of Western Region (Which later evolved into Western State on May 27, 1967) and merged with majorly Lagos Island to form Lagos State for the indigenes.

Gamesmart:
So Yorubas allowed a man who they know is not Yoruba to represent them because he has naturalised to be Yoruba?

So what stops them from allowing Osimhen represent them since they know he has naturalised to be Yoruba?

Now una wan switch am to "his father"?

How pathetic are you people?

Gamesmart:
And so?

He is still not Edo?

Una go begin with manufacture of excuses when una silly assertions are disproven.

Christistruth03:
Exactly

The Yoruba Language and Azizat are ours and Osimhen is yours

Christistruth03:


It was the one that them Sabi which dem talk

At least dem try

Oba of Benin will soon Turn up to drag Osimen with them

Even if we refund them Osimen at least Azizat is our own

that one is unrefundable

Nigeria did well

Akanoaaa:
But he was brought up in Yoruba land and speak Yoruba very well. Yoruba is part of him.

Usenokpevbo:
stop giving these facts from your head like an illiterate, i do expect you would have quoted some materials to backup your point like an efficient graduate that is capable of research, but what do we have? A clown that pulls off outrageous statistics from his arse.

This was in 1964,

Usenokpevbo:
the Hausas alone are not up to 20% that is why i added other northern groups to make up for the number, you can see i added 9% or more for other northern groups. When you add the Fulanis, their brothers from Niger, Mali etc they are certainly more

I wanted you to add that for the expatriate yourself, i was not going to add for the Indians, i was just more on the fact that cumulatively Yorubas are not up to 40 percent.

There is a way the Yoruba culture incorporates one into its fold that despite housing strange humongous population groups, it will still manage to have this Yoruba outlook, chidi mokeme can speak fluent Yoruba, the same with Alibaba and others, but they are not of the Yoruba stock. Many of those Agberos you see in Lagos are Igbos with Yoruba mothers. And even in their strange hinterland

The Hausas have a way of densely settling among themselves with humongous numbers, so it passes off this false narrative, while the Igbos settle among their host and breed children that integrate almost totally except of their Igbo names on many occasions that gives them out. You and I don’t have the same point, please don’t gaslight me

If another independent analysis of Lagos state is to be conducted on the ethnic groups in Lagos state, you would be sincerely surprised, the Yorubas would not be 35-37%, i tell you this with all sense of intention.

Who would have thought the Igbos were eleven percent of the population of Lagos in 1964, some Yoruba bigot would have argued it is not up to ten percent today, i gave a range my brother, if you can’t accept 20% just know it can’t be less than 17. That’s why i gave the range of 17% to 20%

ShortBiscuit:
EDEBIRI
Just to corroborate what simbrixton said above Late pa david edebiri was talking about his own family ancestry you dont need to be a historian for that, the only issue here is he did not lie and you are finding it hard to come to terms with that indeed the entire Ihogbe are members of the Oba family and they spoke a language called urhuazenomo (the language spoken to omo)

AKPAMA211:
dont be a fool, the language of the Bini empire was not Yoruba.

You are one big ignorant fool who just post what he wishes or what he feels, there is no empire that’s surrounded on all side, you only have Edo groups that are bilinguals on border areas and nothing more.

Ugbodumila and itsekiri would not make more than ten percent of delta state.

The Edoid group speaking Yoruba only do so on the fact that they are on the border areas. The “Yoruba” communities in Edo state, many of them are not pure Yoruba but Edo, they speak Yoruba because alongside because they directly border Ondo state.


In the whole of the Midwest, which consists of Edo and Delta state the Yoruba group which would be Ugbodumila and itsekiri cannot be more than 5percent of the Population of the Midwest.

When you compare the Two ovia local government together. The population of these two local governments combined would Give the Bini communities there up to 80% of the population of these two local government when they are combined. Ijaw 15% then the pure Yoruba communities 5%.

Itsekiri is not to the east of Benin, get education my brother you are so ignorant.

If the Europeans saw Some chiefs whose ancestry might actually be Yoruba praying in Yoruba, does that make it absolute, what of the abundant fact that has been given to you to corroborate his argument.

Bajulaiye as you guys call it was actually borrowed from Benin. It is a chieftaincy title which directly translates to the Oba brings life. It is correctly pronounced Obazuaye

Those your interpretations of Ughoton and Agenebode are so fake and foolish


Afenmai is made up of three groups, the Owans, the Etsakos which are the largest, then Akoko Edo

At most only ten percent of Etsakos speak Yoruba, alongside their first dialect and it would be those from Agbede.

Owan about thirty, the rest seventy percent don’t speak it, Akoko Edo only speak it as a second language. There is no community in Akoko Edo that speak it as a sole language.

Esan do not speak it at all

Binis at most 5-7 speak it alongside their Edo dialect

In delta state, the itsekiris might just be the smallest group in the whole of Midwest aside uneme and maybe Okpamheri.

In 1952, they were 34 thousand while Isoko the closest was 74 thousand. I don’t think they have rivaled that figure if not for Nigeria censuses that Favour the big three affiliated groups. You can find the Isoko in two full local government. They also have about 6 wards in Ndokwa east. The itsekiris are only fifty percent of warri south. 70 percent of warri north and 55 percent of Warri south west. That’s all.

The Ijaws are in three local government and they also have about 20 percent of the population of the three Warri local government combined. Even the Urhobos are not left out. They also make at least 20 to 25 of the population of Warri, itsekiri would at most make up 55 percent of Warri, so where is the Yoruba population again

Anioma has about 15 percent of the population of the Midwest And the only community Yoruba speaking community there would be 0.002 of the population of anioma. So how are are both state now Yoruba covered.

The method of communication from the palace of Benin to the several communities in Edo and Delta state that were under his domain was that there was a representative of each community who was fluent in both Edo the palace language and the language of his community in order to pass such message communicated from the palace to his community

Ologbo147:
that was a stretch my brother, I just wanted to let him know that either way he is bleeped, when you compare my points to his.

“ i wantto add that not only that the language Edo exists, it was also the language of the palace of the Oba of Benin. And there are plethora of evidence to prove such.

You must have heard of the edo’nekhue dialect that evolved out of the relationship between the royal family and the eastern Yoruba people. The dialect was spoken by eastern Yoruba people who had affinity with the Oba of Benin.

Even the Yoruba account accented to the fact that the Oba is maternally Edo ancestrally.

The names of past Obas of Benin. Both their birth names and their ascension names are all Bini names.

Stools and places affiliated to Benin had one or two Edo relic to buttress the fact that Edo was the palace language. The traditional title of the Olu of Itsekiri was and is still Ogiame which directly translates to King of the riverine area .

Go and check the Obi of Agbor and Isele-uku king lists, you are sure to find several Edo names that can be interpreted today.

Even places in Lagos island is replete with Edo naming pattern-Idumagbo, idumota, iduntafa, idunsagbe and so on. What about the name Eko. These are names and places that can be interpreted by Edo and supported by historical account from a Yoruba historian that it came from Edo like the one i quoted above.

There are plethora and plethora of evidence to support the fact that Edo was spoken in the palace “

This is a research work by their Yoruba brother, i don’t think i need to say too much

title of this book is “which Lagos, whose history, by ayodeji olukoju, department of history and strategic studies,university of Lagos, Nigeria

Ologbo147:
i saw your write up above my quoted mention

I want to add that not only that the language Edo exists, it was also the language of the palace of the Oba of Benin. And there are plethora of evidence to prove such.

You must have heard of the edo’nekhue dialect that evolved out of the relationship between the royal family and the eastern Yoruba people. The dialect was spoken by eastern Yoruba people who had affinity with the Oba of Benin.

[b]Even the Yoruba account accented to the fact that the Oba is maternally Edo ancestrall[/b]y.

The names of past Obas of Benin. Both their birth names and their ascension names are all Bini names.

Stools and places affiliated to Benin had one or two Edo relic to buttress the fact that Edo was the palace language. The traditional title of the Olu of Itsekiri was and is still Ogiame which directly translates to King of the riverine area .

Go and check the Obi of Agbor and Isele-uku king lists, you are sure to find several Edo names that can be interpreted today.

Even places in Lagos island is replete with Edo naming pattern-Idumagbo, idumota, iduntafa, idunsagbe and so on. What about the name Eko. These are names and places that can be interpreted by Edo and supported by historical account from a Yoruba historian that it came from Edo like the one i quoted above.

There are plethora and plethora of evidence to support the fact that Edo was spoken in the palace


Absolutesuccess i saw your comment and I would like to reply in my comment below

gbam


Idun and Idu stand for very different things.

While Idu is the name of the Edo ancestor and is not connected to this discuss at all, Idun on the other hand is what is related to this discuss.

Idun means a quarter in a settlement, when the word is placed beside some words, the n might then become silent just as in the case of idumota but the n was retained in the case of Iduntafa, Idunsagbe, and Idunmagbo
I am not making this up,

This is a research work by your Yoruba brother, Ayodeji Olukoju from Oka Akoko

Simbrixton:
i said ikoro is beside obazuwa they are basically neighbours i dont mean obazuwa is ijaw so i made no mistake u dont have to be rude

Simbrixton:
Ozuo i am saying dsame tin u said mumu

Simbrixton:
beside obazuwa is ikoro community which is fully ijaw

Simbrixton:
beside obazuwa is ikoro community which is fully ijaw

scholes0:
Is this Ologbo wth a different account?

Simbrixton:
where e for dey see d percentage sef ?

lawani:
People can not be dominated on their land unless conquered then they will gradually lose their language and identity over time. There is therefore no possibility of Yoruba dominating Igbos vice versa and etc. Even as a majority, domination will be impossible without conquering the natives. Igbos are not controlling all importation because what is being imported can be listed and we know who controls what. 70 percent of vehicle importation is Yoruba controlled. Thirty percent of electronics too. Igbos control spare parts. Clothes is shared. Jewellery is probably Yoruba and Hausa, Fuel nko?. London used phones?. Computers?. Brewery feed?. Fiish feed?. Imported wines? Stock for pharmaceuticals?. Do the calculations by yourself and you will see that Igbo is not certain of 20 percent. There is no area in Lagos under Igbo control. They live in the midst of Yorubas. Rivers is around 45 percent of Lagos and that is huge. If it were up to Lagos, then Yorubas inside would be like the population of a state. Therefore everybody is more or less equally dispersed and not only Igbos. If on a per Capita basis then Urhobos in the SW are more than Igbos. Igbos only beat them with gross. Then Nollywood exists in the East as well. Upper Iweka road Onitsha is Nollywood and films can be shot anywhere. Market is all over the world. Size of the film industry of each nation after Nigeria will be roughly proportional to the population. Lagos will remain the way it is. Nollywood is comprised of Kannywood, Yorubawood and Upper Iweka road Onitsha and other segments. It will just disintegrate. I don't really watch even Yoruba not to talk of Kannywood as I don't understand Hausa but they have the market which they serve that makes them an industry. Lagos is not more cosmopolitan than PH, Abuja or Kaduna by any means. As Igbos are coming to Lagos and Yoruba land, Yoruba are also headed East. It cancels out but SW is more than double the SE in population. Igbo owned assets in Yoruba land may be below ten percent of 0.1 percent. You will agree if you really understand what asset means. Is it buildings you want to count?. Of which they don't have up to five out of 1000 before we go to farms and other means of production.

scholes0:
So Ikpoba Okha is not even 100% indiginous binis? Same with the Ovia local governments same with Orhionmwon.

How many LG do Binis now indigenously occupy in entirety?

lawani:
How many Yoruba women do you think are living in the East with their Igbo husbands?. Yoruba oil workers, federal civil servants, artisans, telecomms workers, bank workers, pastors. Yoruba in the SE are not less than two million and SE will be around 25 million people.Igbos in the West are not more than SS or Northerners by any means but the business they do is different. Urhobos are heavily settled in the SW too. If it is only 1000 a day Yoruba spend per Capita in the SE, is that not money?. I don't know what you mean by Igbo investment times three of Yoruba in Nigeria. How many Igbos can boast of one million naira income per month?. Most people like that in Nigeria are more of Yoruba and we can list the business they do. What are the particular businesses you are talking about?. Selling in shops while paying rent to the owner is not much of an investment and that is what you are counting and if you count total traders, Yoruba will surpass Igbos but each are specialized in different directions. Produce buying even in the East is Yoruba controlled. Electronics is Igbo controlled but even Alaba electronics is thirty percent Yoruba. If in income and everything visible, Yoruba have more, so where is the investment you are talking about?. Name the companies and their CEOs, visible market share, staff strength and etc.
Then Lagos port is not as busy as Cotonou and Cotonou is not as populated as Ogbomosho. What are the Igbo investment in Ogun and Lagos that triple Yoruba?. Well if they exist they are still Yoruba investment. Just like if Glo incorporate in the coming Biafra, it will be a Biafran company. Even the Indians, Chinese Lebanese who sometimes are aided by foreign capital have not invested more than Yorubas in Yoruba land. Do you know the meaning of that?. Petrol stations, hotels, schools, pure water factories, breweries, bakeries, brick making, cement, food processing,haulage, pharmaceuticals, beverages, manufacturing, car assembly, private universities, elite secondary schools, mining, honey making, poultry, fisheries, large scale farming, vegetable oil production and etc. 90 percent of these things in Yoruba land are under Yoruba control. Igbos maybe five to ten percent of total traders but are specialized in some trading sectors.
Everywhere counting is possible in the North like in the universities, Yoruba have always surpassed Igbos. Yoruba in Lagos should be up to eighty percent because Igbos are mainly in trading and if you count all traders in all markets at the highest, they will be thirty percent. Ten percent of income earners in Lagos are civil servants of which at least eighty percent will be Yoruba and ninety percent of workers remaining are going to be A mix of bus drivers, carpenters, tailors, petrol station owners, petty traders, vulcanisers, hairdressers, barbers, hoteliers, private school teachers, bank workers, car dealers, bricklayers, painters, plumbers etc. How many of these trades are dominated by Igbos?. Majority of petty traders in Lagos are Yoruba. I just used eighty percent as an estimate no that I am sure Epe, Badagry and even Ikorodu are in Lagos too and they are still traditionsl Yoruba towns. Lagos island, VI are highly populated and largely filled with many government buildings and quarters. Hausa Kannywood do not reckon with Lagos and they have succeeded. So no big deal in Lagos entertainment. Lagos is not more cosmopolitan than PH and I believe Kaduna. The level of Yoruba presence in PH is at par if not more than Igbo presence in Lagos. El Rufai's statement has been shown to be wrong but that is not the issue here. There is no border against migration so everybody is moving and anywhere you like stay there but as Igbos, you have a distinct land and anything done by Yorubas on Hausa land is counted for Hausa land. Ditto for others. When there is proper census for planning purposes in post Nigeria nations then we will have real data and speculations will end. For now real data like university communities show more Yoruba than Igbo. Don't be saying Igbos have invested three times in Yoruba land than the natives again as not up to 0.1 percent of assets on Yoruba land is Igbo owned