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babat89:
Under house arrest like they did other people shey?
🤣

If the tables were turned and tomorrow a coup happens killing Igbos and Yorubas and somehow leaving Hausa/Fulanis alone... will you believe any rubbish?

Even if they later claimed the aim of the coup was to make Nnamdi Kanu President?

🤣

Let's be honest please

Did you read Wale Ademoyega (one of the coupists) accounts on had they had difficulty recruiting coupists responsible for the Eastern region, the differing views between the moderates and extremists on how the corrupt politicians of the first republic should be dealt with and how Col Lt. Oguchi (a moderate) was the one recruited to spearhead the coup in the Eastern region and?


Let me guess, it’s more convenient for you to assume absolutely nothing happened in the Eastern region.


Keep entertaining me abeg.

tunjilana:
There is nothing like crushing, because crusjinh will mean that someone actually killed the coup plotters....that never happened....leaders of other regions have been decimated by the coup. The only region left with leaders (politician and military) was the easterners ...there was nothing to crush....the coup plotters were majors (middle officers) they were too junior to become head of state and that obviously will mean that someone superior takes over...leadership first fell on Nwafor Orizu the senate leader who rather than constitute government and probably call for elections in the regions where the premiers were killed and allow for another prime minister to be chosen...he decided to hand power to the military where Ironsi his kinsman was waiting...And Ironsi started by abolishing regional government and creating unitary government (the same mess we have today which has led to clamors for restructuring back to regions)...

He also didn't punish the coup plotters...until the Northern middle and junior officers regrouped and planned a revenge coup in July of the same year that led to the death of Ironsi (and Fajuyi a yoruba man who stuck his neck for Ironsi).. after the coup, Yakubu Gowon took over...he has to be promoted severally to fit in and he wasn't even up to 30....thatbis to tell you what the January 1966 coup plotters did when they killed the likes of Largema, Kur Mohammed, Ralph Sodeinde, Ademulegun etc who were senior officers from other regions...

It was Yakubu Gowon who then released awolowo within 24 hrs of ascending to power...The same Awolowo which they lied was the reason for the January Coup but left in jail for 6 months after the coup they claimed was about him... 😀

Ok, let’s all pretend the January 1966 coup ended because the coup plotters suddenly had a change of heart, laid down their weapons and willingly walked to jail.

babat89:
Balewa was head of state.
Azikiwe was only a figurehead.
Don't twist history.

Azikiwe was conveniently away from the Country during the coup.
He obviously knew about it.

....also NOTHING happened in the east, nothing!

Col Lt. Oguchi (one of the moderates among the coupists) placed the Eastern premier under house arrest.

Something indeed happened in the Eastern region, however there were no casualties.

richie240:
Does the 'glossing' dispute the fact that the 1966 coup targeted ONLY the military and political leaders of the west, north and midwest to the exclusion of igbós??

Does it nullify the fact that while Sadauna of sokoto - d northern premier, akintola - the western premier, the minister of finance - okotie ebor from the midwest were all executed, their igbo/ibo counterparts the azikwe (from east) and Mike okpara - eastern premier - both miraculously escaped the bullets??

Again, you’ve gleefully glossed over the reasons Adewale Ademoyega mentioned the coup had no casualties in the Eastern region and also comfortably overlooked how the January 1966 coup was crushed and by whom.


Keep it up. I’m entertained.

tunjilana:
In the same book where he said he was in Katsina "unaware" that the June 12 election has been annulled and he listened on radio same way that myself, you and the farmer in the village listened on radio....

Logic flew out and you believe Emmanuel Ifeajuna from Onitsha will plan a coup that is meant to "remove" Zik from onitsha from power so that Awolowo (Zik's political rival)
will be handed power? ....Tell me one military coup in the world that led to the installment of a civilian... ...same Awolowo that was in jail at the time.

And to top it all, four of the five coup plotters were Igbo but only one of the casualty was Igbo and even that one was a mid level officer who wasn't part of the murder plan but got himself killed by delaying the murderers who asked for the armoury...All the notable military and civilian leaders of Igbo extraction at that time "miraculously" escaped but this list of non-igbo heavy weights and some of their staff didn't...

Civilians

Prime Minister Abubakar Tafawa Balewa(Hausa)
Northern Nigeria Premier Ahmadu Bello(Hausa)
Western Nigeria Premier Samuel Ladoke Akintola(Yoruba)
Finance Minister Festus Okotie-Eboh (Itsekiri seen as part of western Nigeria at the time)
Ahmed Ben Musa (Bello's Senior Assistant secretary for Security)(Hausa)
Hafsatu Bello(wife of Ahmadu Bello)(Hausa)
Latifat Ademulegun, wife of General Ademulegun. (Yoruba)
Zarumi Sardauna (Hausa)
Ahmed Pategi (Bello's driver)(Nupe/North)
Military and police

Brigadier Samuel Ademulegun (Yoruba)
Brigadier Zakariya Maimalari (Borno/Hausa)
Colonel Ralph Shodeinde(Yoruba)
Colonel Kur Mohammed(Borno/Hausa)
Lt. Colonel Abogo Largema(Borno/Hausa)
Lt. Colonel James Pam(Plateau/Hausa)
Lt. Colonel Arthur Unegbe(Igbo killed unplanned)
Sergeant Daramola Oyegoke (Refused Nzeogwu's order in the attack on the Sardauna's lodge and according to the police report was murdered by Nzeogwu.)(Yoruba)
PC Yohana Garkawa(middle belt/Hausa)
Lance-corporal Musa Nimzo(Hausa)
PC Akpan Anduka (Efik/Ibibio)
PC Hagai Lai (Northerner)
Philip Lewande(Northerner)

Yet we had Micheal okpara(Premier of eastern region), Nnamdi Azikwe(President), Nwafor Orizu (senate leader), Ironsi (General in the army), Ojukwu(influential colonel) ....all of them survived "miraculously" in a supposed National coup that isnt an Igbo coup... OK kwantinue...

Data always trumps word of mouth for those willing to learn from it...

Please use the same data and tell us who and how the January 1966 coup was crushed


Thanks

professorPABX:
Who was Arthur Unegbe in the Nigerian Army as at that time? Which Brigade was he commanding? Or which Battalion was he commanding?

All these are later day imaginary inputs.

Oh really… Arthur Unegbe was in charge of the armoury in Lagos.

His refusal to release the keys to the armoury alongside John Obienu’s refusal to provide armoured vehicles to the Lagos coupists made the Lagos coup flop.

Read the history archives and prove me wrong.

richie240:
1. I've already stated in my penultimate post that Arthur Unegbe was killws bcus he stood in the way of the coup plotters by refusing to hand over the keys to the armoury.

2. The fact that we had some specks of Yorubas and hausas amongst the coup plotters wasn't the reason why it was an igbo coup but by virtue of the casualties.
The coupists targeted mainly ONLY the military and political leaders of the north, west and midwest while NONE from the south east was killed.

Nwokem, rest!

I love how you glossed over the first hand accounts of Wale Ademoyega on how they faced difficulties recruiting coupists responsible for the mid western and Eastern regions of Nigeria. How the coupists had different leanings (moderates and extremists), and how the moderate one (Lt. Oguchi) happened to spearhead the coup in the Eastern region where the premier was placed under house arrest.

I also love how you’ve conveniently ignored how Ladoke Akintola, Ahmadu Bello and Tafawa Balewa were warned of the coup multiple times before it happened.

I also love how you’ve been suspiciously quiet on how and who crushed the January 1966 “Igbo coup”

Please entertain us some more

donbenie:
What does Babangida need Igbo blessings for?
Is he campaigning for an election?

I just tire for that guy.

He’s been shooting himself in the foot yesterday and today.

richie240:
That's exactly my point, Nwokem!!!
They were deceived into partaking int the sectional coup!

Tell me how many igbós were killed in the 1966 coup Biko.

If they had known they'll be betrayed by their eastern blodas do you think they would've actively participated in executing the coup??

How is it an Igbo coup when Arthur Unegbe was a casualty in the coup?

How is it an Igbo coup when the likes of Ironsi and John Obienu crushed the coup? Please explain.

Softmirror:
I already answered your question.

How exactly is Wale Ademoyega exonerating himself by telling non-Igbos the January 1966 coup was not an Igbo coup?

Where exactly did you answer this question?

richie240:
Just kukuma tell us the coupists told ademoyega that the plan was to kill only the military and political leaders of other Nigerians apart from igbos and see if it made sense.

If me and you already planned to kill all our vagabond brothers and it so happened that it was only yours that 'ate' the hot leads while yours was 'coincidentally' left untouched, what does that tell you??

The same thing happened even in 2020 where the 'endsars' protest that was supposed to be a national protest turned to ''kill tinubu', kill sanwooulu'' and d destruction of lives and properties in southwest while southeast was left untouched

Una always dey think say na una wise pass, and na this 'overskill' go make Nigeria never trust you till they kingdom come!

Wale ademoyega is just like the current misguided present day falz, macaroni, hundeyin, rinu and rufai oseni who still don't know they are being used by igbós yo further their sinister agenda.

Ok so Adewale Ademoyega, Max Siollun, Segun Johnson and Nowamagbe Omoigui were also misguided too abi?

Clap for yourself.

Softmirror:
Those whose kinsmen were murdered on cold blood. Ademoyega obviously was only trying to exonerate himself.

How exactly was Ademoyega exonerating himself by telling non-Igbos that the January 1966 coup was not an Igbo coup?

Make this logic of yours make sense.

richie240:
Just kukuma tell us the coupists told ademoyega that the plan was to kill only the military and political leaders of other Nigerians apart from igbos and see if it made sense.

If me and you already planned to kill all our vagabond brothers and it so happened that it was only yours that 'ate' the hot leads while yours was 'coincidentally' left untouched, what does that tell you??

The same thing happened even in 2020 where the 'endsars' protest that was supposed to be a national protest turned to ''kill tinubu', kill sanwooulu'' and d destruction of lives and properties in southwest while southeast was left untouched

Una always dey think say na una wise pass, and na this 'overskill' go make Nigeria never trust you till they kingdom come!

Wale ademoyega is just like the current misguided present day falz, macaroni, hundeyin, rinu and rufai oseni who still don't know they are being used by igbós yo further their sinister agenda.

You guys don’t read. That’s the problem.

https://www.nairaland.com/8348746/1966-not-igbo-coup-kaduna#134244655

Softmirror:
Those whose kinsmen were murdered on cold blood. Ademoyega obviously was only trying to exonerate himself.

What are the identities of those kinsmen who would have called Ademoyega a bastard for not labelling the January 1966 coup an “Igbo coup”.

Grow some balls and state it plainly.

Or you are scared of dribbling yourself into a corner again like earlier today?

boxypane:
Even Rufai is confused. A coup that was suppose to be bloodless was over taken by an ethnic bigot who went on a killing spree.
We don't need to be there... IBB will be silly to narrate it that way but the bitter truth is Igbos cannot be trusted with power.
In the words of Lord Lugard about the Igbos he conversed with while in Nigeria.

Post the quote on all the major tribes next time.

Softmirror:
By those who see him align with the Igbos to cleans other tribes.

Who are those people willing to call Ademoyega a BASTARD for not calling the January 1966 coup an Igbo coup?

Come out openly and identify them.

Softmirror:
Because he will be regarded as a BASTARD.

Regarded as a BASTARD by who exactly?

Softmirror:
No he didn't and what do you expect him to have said?! It won't have painted him in a good light.

What would a Yoruba coup plotter stand to gain from putting his fellow Igbo coup plotters in a good light by not calling January 1966 an Igbo coup?

Softmirror:
Yes he was. Especially about Awolowo.

Did Adewale Ademoyega (one of the coup plotters) label the January 1966 coup an Igbo coup?

Yes or No

Softmirror:
Both are making speculations.

Adewale Ademoyega who was one of the coup plotters was making speculations?

Did you actually think before typing this?

Softmirror:
Is IBB one of the coup plotters?! Why is it carrying weight is it because it suits your sentiment?!

Can you read at all?

Tell us the difference between Adewale Ademoyega (one of the coup plotters) and IBB’s story.

We are patiently waiting.

Softmirror:
Those are there own stories there are others such as late Maj. Gen David Ejoor who were explicit about the coup and called it an Igbo coup.

Maj Gen David Ejoor’s story should carry more weight than Adewale Ademoyega who was one of the coup plotters.

I applaud your logic 👏

femi4:
IBB lied, what did you expect him to say? The book is full of lies

Adewale Ademoyega (one of the coup plotters), Max Siollun, Segun Johnson and Nowamagbe Omoigui lied too? 🤷

Facts!


They’ve been wailing over my threads for some days now.

Truth must be told, no matter how bitter it tastes.

https://www.nairaland.com/8325556/january-15-1966-arthur-unegbe

https://www.nairaland.com/8326981/names-military-officials-invaded-ahmadu

https://www.nairaland.com/8348476/ibb-january-1966-not-igbo

Softmirror:
Can you tell us why no officer was assigned to take down anyone in the East even though Zik had already been briefed about the Igbo Coup and took cover?!

Go and read history.

Ahmadu Bello, Ladoke Akintola and Tafawa Balewa were also tipped off about the coup earlier in January 1966.

https://www.nairaland.com/8325556/january-15-1966-arthur-unegbe/4#133862806


Col. Lt Oguchi was assigned to take down the Eastern Premier.

https://www.nairaland.com/8348746/1966-not-igbo-coup-kaduna#134244655

Read man, read.

Softmirror:
Go back and check, I qualified Nzeogwu as "THE CHIEF COUPIST" in my comment.

I know all along this is what you are trying to point to. But you are still not smart, bearing in mind that the master mind of the coup was Nzeogwu who deliberately didn't designate any one to murder his own kinsmen in the East or what was the reason for this lapses.

The mere fact that an Igbo officer trusted to have become 'Hausa' by birth killed Sadauna and Tafawa Balewa tells you a lot about a calculated mischievous coup.

It was never in the "CHIEF COUPIST" Chukwuma Nzeogwu's plan to touch his own kinsmen.

Taaa!!! Keep quiet there.

After you’ve been exposed for trying to gaslight me into thinking I don’t know what I was saying, you are now claiming you knew what I was driving at all the while?

What sort of duplicitous chameleonic character are you displaying here?

Were you among the coup plotters to conclude Nzeogwu had no plans to kill Igbos in the coup too hmmm? Or is this assumption all made up in your head?

Wahabfuture, come and see chameleonic acrobatics in display. Chai!!!

Softmirror:
Yes of course. Can you point to where I mentioned the North?! Was the Coup limited to the North. Is Akintola also from the North. You ain't smart o!

Stop playing dumb. See the trail of the conversation which brought up my question.

drugBaronTINUBU:
Who get time to follow u do back and forth
The book clearly stated his mid western parents migrated to the North and he was born and brought up there. So he is more of a northerner.
If i am born, brought up and live all my life in Yoruba land, i can as well say i am Yoruba by birth.
Try get sense cause if u reply again like who never enter class room b4, i will curse your generation
Yorubastard

This was your response.

Softmirror:
The chief Coupist demonstrated that he is not Hausa by murdering Hausas while leaving his own kinsmen.

Don't deceive yourself.

Now tell us the names of Nzeogwu’s kinsmen holding political offices in the North he could have killed. Nzeogwu was responsible for the coup in Northern Nigeria.

Unless you’re expecting him to teleport and kill Igbo politicians in the East 🤷

In your words “you ain’t smart o!”

It’s extremely pleasing watching you dribble yourself into a corner.

Softmirror:
You can now see that your question is pointless lol.

Can you actually see your post here below is pointless as Nzeogwu had no kinsmen holding a key political office in the North? 🤷

Abi you thought I wasn’t following your conversation with drugbarontinubu?

Softmirror:
The chief Coupist demonstrated that he is not Hausa by murdering Hausas while leaving his own kinsmen.

Don't deceive yourself.

Softmirror:
Was he killed in the North and why not?!

We have learnt something new today o. Ladoke Akintola Nzeogwu’s kinsman according to softmirror

Softmirror:
The chief Coupist demonstrated that he is not Hausa by murdering Hausas while leaving his own kinsmen.

Don't deceive yourself.

Softmirror:
I have used Akintola to answer your question.

How was Akintola the kinsman of Nzeogwu?

Akintola was an Igbo residing in the North abi?

Softmirror:
The chief Coupist demonstrated that he is not Hausa by murdering Hausas while leaving his own kinsmen.

Don't deceive yourself.

Softmirror:
You have already answered my question.

Ladoke Akintola was Nzeogwu’s kinsman resident in the North?

Softmirror:
The chief Coupist demonstrated that he is not Hausa by murdering Hausas while leaving his own kinsmen.

Don't deceive yourself.

Softmirror:
Now you are following my logic as expected. So Akintola wasn't resident in the North but was killed during the coup so what is your question all about?!

So who were the kinsmen of Nzeogwu that were high ranking office holders resident in the North at the time of the coup?

Softmirror:
The chief Coupist demonstrated that he is not Hausa by murdering Hausas while leaving his own kinsmen.

Don't deceive yourself.