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festacman:
First, Seun Kuti puts himself in the 'den' of police. He set himself up for this persecution. He had his 'cowboy' show on the road and now, the cops are having their shenanigans in their 'den'. They will test his patience and try to provoke him to behave violently to be recorded on video.

Second, Seun Kuti should remain calm and humble as long as this lasts because he badly needs this course in the University of Hard Knocks. He needs it to know the dangers of unnecessarily getting angry at the least provocation. Come to think of it, the more you watch that assault video, the more you think about what Seun Kuti's wife and domestic aides go through in his hand. Nothing justifies jumping out one's car and slapping and assaulting another person on the road because he bumped your car. Now imagine Seun Kuti bumping into your car and you getting out to slap and assault him like he did to that police officer. Seun no go gree until he has the last say.

Third, Seun Kuti often sounds too superficially hot-headed as a social critic. He has the Intellectual/philosophical content but his hot-headedness needs to be tempered. This travail will help him. The reality is that every true social radical tries to stand on the side of the law because being on the wrong side gives the government or the politicians you criticize the golden opportunity to cow you.

Fourth, he also needs to know that drug use can make you ride a tiger. Riding that tiger landed in the hot detention cell. This is an opportunity to learn.

3 Gbosa for you. Nice analysis.

JagabanBorgu:
He didn't claim 500k votes from Tinubu, he said add 500k votes to Obi, this includes invalid votes and other votes for other parties.
Now did Tinubu get 500k votes in Rivers?

Oga lojoko jare.

JagabanBorgu:
So Asiwaju got 500k votes in Rivers now?
LOL

I was quoting the guy that said 500k votes, so it's me you are attacking now abi? The person I quoted that claimed 500k you no attack that one.

ProphetM0hammad:
Popularity among who?

He cried on TV, was detained and deported in UK and has been running from pillar to post since after the election while his fans haven't rested too

So it's normal to have his image everywhere
But I'm talking about election here, do you think he will enjoy the same number of votes he got in the west then if there should be a rerun?

Do you know what played out after the February 25th election?
You remember how those events affected the governorship election in Lagos

Make you guys try speak intelligently sometimes cos everything isn't about politics, you said Obi was deported can you please show me where APC propagandist, Bayo ononuga and the likes said Obi was deported. We know how you APC guys are with your propaganda. Even a baby will know you guys are just being petty.

Chidolalar:
Ok what makes you think God exist in your own humble submission?. Bcuz existence of God is anoda debatable topic on its own entirely.
Am asking u this to grab one or two essential points from u

Nature in itself is a rebirthing planet, for every living organism in our present Earth is meant to reproduce, and for every living creature nature has given the power to create. For both Man and Animals, birds in the sky and for every living organism can create their own abode, live and others. What I'm saying is that there's a maker for everything here on earth, a phone, tv, jist name it has a maker. If man has a maker why won't there be a maker for man. So God is the maker of man and he reigns supreme. That alone should make you know God exists.

[quote author=wwwkaycom post=123167136]It cant change nothing. Asiwaju led Obi by almost two million votes, assume 500k votes is added to Obi's votes in Rivers State, he will still not take over Atiku not to talk of Asiwaju.[/quote]Lol you just shot yourself in the foot, if 500k votes could be reduced from BATs votes what makes you think other states won't be checked too? You rig about 500k votes from one state and the judiciary will assume other states are perfect abi? When they check the rest what do you think would happen..

ProphetM0hammad:
You are just a baby with a fantasy.

Do you think LP didn't rig the election at all?

You should be more worried of APC going on the offensive, right now APC is just docile waiting to defend any allegations being brought by the opposition because APC think it's not necessary yet to attack in court.

Some evidence of rigging and election malpractice of LP is everywhere on the net.

But the fact still remains that Obi is the least of the 3 front runners and the least likely to emerge the winner among them.

If Obi should go on a rerun with either Tinubu or Atiku, he will only have his fan boys and mobs like you to count on for votes but he will lose millions of votes he got in the previous election due to everything that has played out so far since February 25th including the recent pattern of abuse from his mobs which they've taken to important dignitaries like the Ooni, pastor Adeboye and Soyinka.

Go and check the stats, Obis increased from 51% to 75% in popularity since after the election, do you want to compare an active 3rd runner up as you call him to a number 1 that's no where to be found and can't even defend his mandate? So if there's a rerun today you know what that means, although there won't be any need to waste another funds under this administration especially that mamood.

Godwin4444:
typical Igbo devoid of intellectual reasoning

Don’t worry

Reality will wake u up once again

ok fulani herder.

Godwin4444:
so 100% people registered to vote n none died, none relocated, none was sick, none was busy, none was in d hospital

All of them that registered came out to vote

U igbos always think u are wise n others are foolish, many people are waiting for u n your obi in court

Even in some part of imo that the government n electorates made it clear that voting didn’t happen, Peter obi still won with 98%

You this Fulani teblik guy for Kwara dey very funny o. See as you no get point. Keep herding cows and goats up and down, na wetin fit una be that.

Koralords:
Keep deceiving yourself,the burden of prove is on lp,south east voted will also be contested

Where did APC put in their petition that they will contest those areas? Go school you say no.

Jones4190:
obi calling for religious war might be the reason why he was arrested and deported from UK, let him not try visiting USA

You sound petty, you guys that like propaganda more than anything you wouldn't have found out be was deported and Bayo Onanuga and the APC wouldn't have publicized it to rubbish OBi? Grow up from this mentality.

Kobojunkie:
You are better off telling me you don't believe in Jesus Christ at all. All this you continue to spew is as bad as a bad religious delusion.

Better go find work. Brother of Jesus.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ preached Eternal reward and Eternal damnation. It is a fallacy to claim a belief in Jesus Christ, accepting eternal reward preached by Him all while rejecting eternal damnation which was equally taught by His person. Your claim there is a contradiction. Until you deal with that, I suggest you stay away from pointing fingers at others.

Oga no quote me again, I don't believe in hell, will you force me? If you believe in hell goodluck to you, I don't believe in it and that's my problem. So sefini.

Chidolalar:
Yes that is d major problem about all this religious fanatics and d bible at large. They or d bible will quote something and yet they or d bible will still twist dat tin and contradict themselves to align and suit their religious beliefs.
The basis of my argument with him or any religious believer is bcuz of those twists and turns, contradictions, illogical and irrational behaviors and statements from them or d bible that makes me highly doubts d credibility of God and their religious beliefs system.
What about you?
What are your basis for argument with him or any religious believer?

My basis of argument is that I don't believe in hell and rapture, like you see people flying up in the sky. Lol. You then watch from the sky seeing your loved ones that's left behind being tortured by 666. I don't get it bro, I'm sure everyone in the world believes a supreme being exist. Even America that's shouting God bless America every day, is atheist not also saying it with them? So the main basis of my argument is to collaborate with yours on the fact that when someone is too religious he takes common sense away and thinks along the religious line in accordance to fear through which they think because you need to obey God and fear him that also means God is evil at the same time and will send you to hell. They are illogical and irritational and contradict themselves just like you put it. I'm a winner 🏆 member that's my church. But I'm more spiritual cos I meditate alot.

Kobojunkie:
If you read all the books in the world but are unable to critically process any of what is written, you are still ignorant, do you know, no better than those who have never read any books at all.

■ Scripture never states that there was a war in Heaven but rather that statement is made as part of a vision and hence not meant to be given literal interpretation.
■ scripture never presents an actual character named Lucifer, but rather presents Jesus Christ proclaiming Himself the brighter morning star with the Sons of God --- His followers--- as other morning stars
■ The two verses that have been misconstrued as claims of lucifer being cast out are rather verses directed at the King of Babylon, King/prince of Tyre taken out of context.
■ Scripture has it that Heaven is God's throne room and He is forever on the throne.
■ You claim a belief in hell is against God but just as Jesus Christ taught of Eternal damnation equally taught of Eternal reward. So it is irrational and illogical to claim to believe in Jesus Christ yet condemning those ideas which you refuse to wrap your mind around as being made up

It is sad that supposedly educated individuals would go as far as to conclude that mythical without investigation that stories they have obviously heard from the mouth of others are facts, and even go as far as to spend their days debating them as such. Of what value is an argument or debate of ideas if the one party continues to present unfounded claims in place of facts; that is a giant waste of time and effort, don't you see? .

I suggest you not only read for the sake of reading of books but work extensively on your ability to comprehend that that is written.

If you are so wise as you speak can you tell me how God looks? How heaven looks? What do Arch Angels look like? How the other mighty angels look like? You are quoting the scripture that war never broke out in heaven abi?

Revelation 12:7–10

7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven.

The same bible you are quoting this is where I still got this out from. You just dey talk rubbish since, so as old are you are and educated as you so call yourself you don't know Lucifer is Devil abi, so even if you type in google you will still say it's rubbish and talking about Babylon or whatever? Were you there in heaven to know what's going on there? Talking about being irrational you are the one that's half educated who feels he knows it all. Like I said you know nothing and just talking garbage 🗑️.

Kobojunkie:
1. Did God force the ones who birthed your parents into having them or something? I don't understand your question at all.

2. Where do you get this idea that God created the world to be imperfect? Again, you continue to showcase your ignorance of what is in fact written in scripture. Yet you convince yourself that this is some intelligent way to argue against scripture? Come on!

3. God is not written to have created His enemies. Rather men chose to become enemies of God. Those who are enemies of God are men who chose, of their own volition, to reject the terms and conditions stipulated in the contract which they entered into with God.

4. Again, your National Constitution makes it a crime for you to kill a man, does it not? But that same Constitution allows your government to eliminate its enemies and impose the death sentence where necessary, does it not? So, tell me, are you certain you are properly reasoning this here well?

5. War in Heaven? Now you are on a roll! But these claims aren't scriptural as they are instead delusions drawn from that taken from a dream/vision without interpretation. Do you consume literally any of that which you see in your dream?

Read books you say no, who told you war didn't happen in heaven. People like you believe you have all the knowledge of this world whereas you can't even name all the components of your body from the top of your hair to the sole of your feet. You came into this world just like everyone else, did you know the events that happened in heaven and still happening now? Seek knowledge and stop assuming you know it all.

Chidolalar:
Is my parents not descendants from Adam and eve which was created by God?
So what d shit are u saying?
There is nothing like God mercy on the righteous endure forever bcuz God already made d world to be imperfect
D same enemies he also created and bible quoted that we should forgive our enemies an yet he couldn't forgive and allowed war to erupts in heaven and banish d enemy to earth?

Bros I have this book titled THE FALL, subtitled THE 24 ELDERS SCROLL 📜. It talked about how God/Ahavah was created from a very powerful light, how Jesus/Yeshua committed suicide by deeping his long nails into his heart and killed himself, it talked about how God formed the planets from his skin, hairs, nails, spit of God which is the sea and water that we drink today. How he created very powerful angels which are the Cherubim and Seraphim, How he created the 24 ELDERS which they are spoken about in the book of revelations, how he created the 12 Arch Angels and the likes. How the war in heaven started because Lucifer which was the first Arch Angel wanted to be like God and how war broke out in heaven etc. What I'm trying to say is that God didnt kill Luci then and he will never kill him now because he's the eyes of God. Now if God allowed Luci to be casted down to earth and let him roam and allow evil to fester on through the human beings he created, then why should God now punish humans to burn in hell when he himself casted devil down to earth to cause pain and anguish on humans. Lucifer is the apple of God's eyes, so we humans are not apple of God's eyes? Are humans more evil than the devil that when a man commits a little sin as little as lies such a person will go to hell? God never punished Luci for the evil he did in heaven so it's human that will now suffer for Lucia sin abi? Just like saying humans should suffer for Adam and Eve's sin for eating the forbidden apple..

Chidolalar:
D same Jesus who was quoted in d bible said if u accept me and repent from your sins then u will be forgiven?
If dat is not a promise then what is it?
Am countering Dem with facts!
It is you that is blinded with your crappy and completely NOT credible religious beliefs that choose to be blind to reality and basically wallowing in your religious delusions

That guy fit argue from now till tomorrow, I no dey argue with those people. He will bring bible verses telling you you will go to hell for fornication now tell him the main culprit which is Adam and Eve did they go to hell for disobedience? But they will still find a way to twist everything. Anyone that believes in hell good for them bros.

Tompson88:
A Jehovah witnesse spotted[color=#990000][/color]
Hell exist but it's not for humans, that's where devil and his demons live, Heaven exist but only belongs solely to God, Yeshua, Cerubum and Seraphim, Arch angels, Angels, Baby angels and other powerful angels and the likes. When a man dies it's an everlasting unconsciousness, it will be like the same way how we never knew we existed in our mother's womb till we started to think we exist.

Talking about rapture, there's rapture happening everyday, when your loved one dies and leaves you behind is that not rapture? Hoping to wait since 2000years ago thinking Yeshua will appear in the sky is not gonna happen. Jesus/Yeshua is with us everyday so why would he still appear in the sky?

Oga I'm a winner member o. 😂. Wetin concern me with witness.

Gtwix:
This OKATA of a guy is sick,ignoramus

Seek knowledge and read books not calling someone sick, you should be the one to seek help bro. If you are worshipping a god that tells his kids to burn in hell forever ♾️ for a finite sin then change the god you worship cos that kind of a god is sick and worse than a psycho.

Kobojunkie:
1. That book is over 1000 years old and the information recorded inside of it has not changed in over a millenia, so certain your ignorance of the information contained is not to be blamed on the book but the readers inability to comprehend or better yet refusal to actually read in order to obtain understanding to help erase all ignorance.

Jesus Christ made clear that He brought Heaven and Hellfire down --- the Kingdom of God --- only for the Lost sheep of Israel meaning that all non-Israelites , whether they die before or after Jesus Christ, He has no business of any kind with. Equally, only those who are born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hellfire are located meaning Hellfire and Heaven are of no concern to even those of the Losts sheep of Israel who never believe Jesus Christ.

If you are not of the blood of Jacob and you are not born-again, you have no business concerning yourself with God or Jesus Christ. Why do cloak yourself in a mask of ignorance all so you can meaningless meaningless assertions that are totally disconnected from that stated in the book pretending you are in some way affected or impacted?

Oga stop talking out of point jare. How many books have you even read? You feel you know it all, can I ask you how was God created? How long has our earth and other planets existed. You are talking about a book wa written a thousand years ago and no single photo of Christ, prophets or other important personel in the bible. So you think the bible was written 1000yrs ago?. I laugh, you don't even know how long the earth and planet has been in existence but you know the Holy book is a thousand yrs old. Even those that were born before BC like Aristotle had their photos and sculpture till date. Better stop deceiving yourself with this 1000yrs ago phrase. The bible has been in existence long before 1000yrs..

Kobojunkie:
1. How can it be considered rapture when the mind, body, and soul of the dead remains encased within that physical body, after which it physically decays/ceases in the case of one who is not born-again?

2. So, if I leave one behind while on a journey, your interpretation of that too is "rapture"?

3. If you are sick and tired of waiting, you are free to not wait anymore but stop spewing this ridiculousness for an explanation abeg. Making me wonder if the Nigerian school system is to blame for this or what?

4. Didn't scripture explain to you that God created both good and evil? By the way, God says He only loves those who obey His teachings and commandments. How did you come away with Him being a loving God to all when He never said any such?

So your response to number 3 is Nigerian school system brainwashed me. So what about those here on earth that won't hear the gospel of Christ till they die, will they find themselves in hell after death cos they sinned? Even though no one preached or talked hell to them? So Russian, Ukrainian war, those engaged in war will also find themselves in hell? You don't even know that Angels fought battles here on earth before Ahavah created man in his image, you obviously don't know angels already inhabited our planet before man was even made. They fought wars upon wars and Most High didnt cast them in hell for that, even while in heaven before the detroning and casting Arch Angel Lucifer to mother earth, did God send the Angels that joined Luci in war to hell for fighting? Even those that joined Luci in battle were forgiven by the Most High after they asked for forgiveness. You are quoting a bible verse, I quoted Ecclesiastes that's from the same bible but that my own is verse is useless and out of point abi? Have you seen an earthly judge sentence someone to burn in the fire? I have known you for always talking out of point and you always feel you have the final say. No need wasting my time with you but one thing I know if you believe in hell goodluck to you, j don't believe in it so goodluck to me too.

wittydee:
Friend, look at this verse below;

'XDo not be deceived, God is not mocked [He will not allow Himself to be ridiculed, nor treated with contempt nor allow His precepts to be scornfully set aside]; for whatever a man sows, this and this only is what he will reap. For the one who sows to his flesh [his sinful capacity, his worldliness, his disgraceful impulses] will reap from the flesh ruin and destruction, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.''
Galatians 6:7‭-‬8 AMPLIFIED VERSION.

If you can't get the message from these verses of the Bible, then be reminded that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire, because of there sinful life. What is happening today is worse than what happened then, but God has been giving us the grace to repent. You can't say a Judge is wicked for sending a criminal to jail or a murderer to death. This is dome to samitize the society. God can not put sinner and the righteous in heaven because they will pollute heaven. Heaven is ment to the righteous. The only way we can become righteous before God is by accepting his free gift of Salvation through Jesus Christ.

If you think that God will send an evil man to hell for murder then you are not serving a true God. Change your mindset bro. Did God send Adam and Eve to hell for eating the forbidden fruit. You can believe in hell but I don't.

lovediehatelive:
This one is strong o.

10 years?

The thing here is that I can never forgive a cheating partner.

It's not me, it's above me. My soul doesn't accept such.

So I believe a virgin has lesser chances of cheating than a non virgin

Oga people that got married to virgins dey cheat clean and clear. Na that eye you go take dey look am she go dey pass water under you. Some people can be virgins till 23-25 due to the life their parents instilled in them. Once they taste the forbidden fruit it would be hard to stop.

dawnomike:
Dey play you hear? Be searching for a virgin over happiness.

I know a couple, they dated for 10yrs, he married a wife as a virgin and she still cheated on him.

Marrying a virgin is a beautiful thing, but getting married to someone that will give you joy and peace goes beyond explanation

Even prostitute sef was a virgin, no mind that guy jare.

DestinyNigga:
I will tell you from personal experience. When I was young, I died in my sleep. I came back from school, after eating I took a nap but couldn't wake up again. When my grandma realized that am no longer shaking or breathing, she started calling me. When I did not answer she shake me, check my temperature and realized that my enemy has gone to the other side, she carried me and started crying. When all this was happening, I was watching everything. Even when she carried my lifeless body. So , as she carried me and was heading to my grandpa hut, I saw a huge figure standing in front of the way, very mighty that I couldn't look at it due to light that was coming out of his body. The next thing I realized, is my spirit joining my soul and I woke up.

Hahaha, bro you are funny o. 😂😂😂. My own kind of die na that one wey person go don die dey mortuary even come back to life. It happened to a woman she was posted on nairaland then. She was already decomposing and she woke up at the mortuary. Na that one I dey talk o. I remember she even said she never witnessed anything like hell or heaven in her unconscious state. You might have simply fainted, it's happened to me too.

The guy too like blood money movie.

DestinyNigga:
Have you died to know that we don't exist after death? Your dream alone is the answer to your question. If I pointed a gun at you when you are sleeping, will you know? But your spirit is somewhere wandering. That alone should tell you that apart from your body, something exist!

Animals dream, I mean lower animals dream, my dogs dream he will be barking from sleep. Check google animals dream, that doesn't mean anything. Ask people that have been in coma for long and when they finally wake they don't remember anything or even had feeling they were unconscious and alive.

Aboguede:
Rapture analysis understood. Primary

But I think the you underestimate the (human intelligence. OK. Let's use the bible here, " come let us make MAN in our own image [color=#006600][/color]., this mean that man share the features like consciousness or intelligence or super power, spiritual awareness

Now, man can not die in the context of dead leaf or dead or lizard

Man has consciousness!
Man is a creator!
Man exist in similar dna as god or gods, God meaning something that can exist beyond TIME
Save to say that "man made time" therefore, man has been in existence before earth and in other words, man dies exist beyond earth.

Man has the power of creation meaning man can bring non existan thing into existence.

This is why man can accurately know what is in the future beyond thousand years and the so called holy books are example and many idealogical inventions.

This is to conclude that man can appear out of NOTHING and can also disappear into nothing even with his whole flesh and blood.

Man can hibernate even upto weeks and months and still regain his consciousness purposely.

Man does not die rather man can transform and also change body and exist with his complete human senses while having another body for instance, a fish body with human sense of consciousness (program) containing (human being program) but at that time, the consciousness bundles or programs about human will be frozen.

So the same consciousness that keeps a human on earth as it is now does also stays the same even when that same man I wish to transform into another object.

It is like a computer which can work and a normal and full television but can not perform those two very different tasks at the same time

Bros you don dey carry me go far, e be like na weed master you be? Anyways going by your scientific analogy because that's what I can say here, if you are talking about man can hibernate or exist in other forms or even saying they can see things in the future and all it's the same with animals that are lower to us. We have seen cases of chimpanzees operating phones, dogs undergoing training for military operations etc. Even big cats going through circuses 🎪 to make people laugh. So what I'm saying is that since we have lower and higher animals we are cognitive to learning since that's how nature made it so, a bird for example can create it's own nest without prior learning, a spider can create it's webbing via the power of nature. Can we say all these lower animals will go to heaven too plus the ones we don chop comot. Lol. So what I'm saying is that we aren't really different from lower animals since we are going to die like them. Even Ecclesiastes said so. Ecclesiastes 9:5. When a mad dies it's everlasting unconsciousness, same way you came same way you go.

Mergic:
Do not be deceived. Study your Bible.
God is a loving Father, but he’s also a Consuming Fire (Heb 12:29)

But the fearful, the unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. (Rev 21:

For it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment. (Heb 9:27)

If God is a consuming fire that's because he was made from a very powerful light, which is more powerful than even fire itself. I'm sure you don't even know how God was made to say that? If God is an omniscient God wouldn't he know murderers and the likes will go to hell before creating them? God will throw me in hell because I killed someone? Has any judge in the world sentenced someone to death by burning cos he committed murder? So God will throw me in hell for fornication? I would go to hell because he created me? Does that not make him evil? Anyways I won't argue with you if you believe in hell good for you and I don't believe in it good for me also.

phemmyfour:
The thread is for believers....you have no business going to church if you don't believe in eternity

The eternity is an everlasting unconsciousness, an infinite unconsciousness you will never wake from. Ecclesiastes 9:5.

wittydee:
Brother, God is a just God, he is not partial. All sins are equal before God. God had already warned us that the wages of sin is death (that is eternal destruction in Hell), this can not be changed. God has gone the extra mile to ensure that we escape Hell by providing Jesus to pay for our sins. All we need do is to accept what he done, repent and forsake our sins, confess Jesus as our Lord and savior, and work with God to perfect his will in us.
The choice is ours. God does not send anyone to Hell. If we reject Jesus, we have automatically chose Hell, there nothing more God can do for us. Jesus is the on way to God and eternal life (life In heaven).

[color=#000099]Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.[/color]

When will you humans begin to ever think rationally, have you ever seen someone gone to hell before? It's better you don't talk about what you don't know. A thousand years is like a day before God, I lived a 100 yrs on earth and that's a few hours before God, will God now punish me eternally for a finite sin? If you say God is love, how can a loving God be evil at the same time? If you make it to heaven and you tell God I need to see my loved one and he shows them to you in hell how they are living in pain and crying in anguish will you be happy with such a God?

Just because you are a Christian doesn't mean you shouldn't think moreso as it is done on Earth so it is in Heaven. (Our lord's prayer) Abi have you seen an earthly judge sentence someone to burn in the fire? God is a spirit being, I committed sin as a body and a earthly sin but my punishment is to burn forever as a spirit being? Sentence me here on Earth which is death and let me live eternally unconsciously in the spiritual realm.

[/b] Ecclesiastes 9:5 says, “For the living know that they will die, but the dead know not any thing.” When you die you know nothing. You are not aware of what's going on earth and you are not looking down from heaven because the dead knows nothing. In order to be conscious of anything you must have a soul. [b]