₦airaland Forum

Zansu007:
What exactly his he looking for moving from one party to other, tommorow those hailing you will call you political prostitute.

Why can't he stay and build a structure, look at Tinubu doing great for himself, cos he didn't decamp just because the opposition party is in the center and control almost all the state then, rather he stayed back and build his structure.

Why can't some of this guys learn from the past

He his a business man and one of the subsidy guys ,looking for protection from the ruling party.He his dependent on government policies to make money ,so if that stops ,money will stop flowing,so he cannot build structures from the scratch.

NaijaOlosho:
Ofcourse na after you boldly went to another ywoman's home to bleep her husband

Even if you caught her ,you don't have the right to hit or cause harm,and you cannot take laws into your hands.

Elvis778:
regions are outdated, Independent states is bae, would ensure effective competition between states, Everyone would want to produce more than the other, just like bringing in international standard competition between states, this would lead to more employment, more production, Economic boost and a rich country. The economy would diversify instead of centering on oil alone, it would alleviate agriculture once again and exploitation of neglected natural resources. The various states would pay tax to FG depending on what they earn.
The difference is that Government offices might become less attractive, especially the sit of the president. The lazy guys would feed less. Hardworking guys would feed more. No more feeding bottle government.
These guys knows all these and that's why they are against it, like someone rightly said, it's like asking a parasite to separate from it's host,

https://www.ghanahighcommissionuk.com/regions-in-ghana/
These are regions in Ghana,is there anything like an outdated system?even in the unitedkingdom it's still in practice, South Africa,Kenya it's called counties.its regional or divide it ,those are the best options.

Elvis778:
that's day dreaming,
They know what they would loose and as such, they would pretend they love a United Nigeria and would never let us go.
The yorubas alone cannot feed themselves and the north, the northerners knows this.
they need the entire south in other to be able to feed, they are simply, parasites.

We had farm settlements and agricultural boards.feeeing is not a problem,food is a national security,and it's important .

Elvis778:
And are you aware we almost rejected Obi??
We only decided to support them because of the hope of restructuring,
don't say what you don't know please. If you hate igbos, just drop it pop and plain and stop making useless claims,
before the elections, shortly after atiku choose his Vice, the south eastern leaders, the Ohanaeze and governors almost backed out, they never supported Obi as the vice, if not for the meetings upon meetings organised by Obi and atiku to regain their trust and also assure them that they would restructure the country if elected. They wouldn't have seen the light of the day in south east.

Do you want regions?the igbo region? What about regional police ?I doubt you people,you are not ready for to go back to the original plan 1963

bionixs:
so far,I have a fulfilled life and that my mates envy. Little wonder,I observed that you already have a hero,a role model(Oluomo) and going by your rant,it shows that we have little Oluomo in the making. All I was saying is that before one goes throwing stones at others,he should first replace all his glass windows with iron ones.

English is not a measure of intelligence,and is not his mother tongue.

ChristianNorth:
Then he should be ready for prison. Na that time him go know say Buhari saw those bullion vans

What is your problem with tinubu?

NowisGod109:
I need someone to help me with how to go about starting manufacturing company. What we want to manufacture is cartons in different sizes. I want to know if a half plot of land will be enough for that and how they produce the carton itself, the type of machine we will need for production and how many labourers to start with.

God bless you all

Are you based in Lagos?

NowisGod109:
I need someone to help me with how to go about starting manufacturing company. What we want to manufacture is cartons in different sizes. I want to know if a half plot of land will be enough for that and how they produce the carton itself, the type of machine we will need for production and how many labourers to start with.

God bless you all

Did you get any responses?

murmee:
But Atiku had to tell the South, especially the South West what they wanted to hear to get their votes. The South East voted for Atiku because of Peter Obi and restructuring, while those that voted for Atiku in the Southwest did so because of restructuring!

Lies ,you voted along ethnic lines with the hope that obi will stand a chance ,not restructuring.

Elvis778:
that won't make any headway, after signing, who will approve it? PMB??

He will sign it.you cannot force people together.

Elvis778:
maybe you should show us the way then??
Our very first biafrans map only covered the south eastern states, so i don't know what you are talking about.
It's not our fault that some other states want's to join us. You should note that Nigeria is a finished country, and You the yorubas ain't helping matters.
So the only solution is restructure, or allow the igbos to go in peace, is that too hard

Very easy give each Nigerian senator 250milllion and wait if they will not sign 12 times for an igbo country.

lexy2014:
What is d motive in this instance?

It's towards 2023 presidential election,they won't handover to osinbajo or tinubu because they don't want restructuring and they have started to position and align and manipulate.what if the tribunal declares atiku the winner after buhari has spent half of the tenure?remember pdp will spend 8 years ,so head or tail,a fulani hausa is still in power.so it continues that way.The APC constitution has restructuring on it and they never mentioned it again.

Elvis778:
why so much hate?? Or should i say jealousy? Any reader would simply make out the amount of bitterness in your writeup, well, your reasons are best known to you.
I am igbo and i know what we want, we want to be independent, just like the states in the USA, with that we won't have the north lazy about while the south do all the work, that's all we want, and if you don't like it, allow us to separate out of your country.
I think say if u no like person, you go allow am make in find him own way ni If you feel you don't need us and we won't succeed alone, then leave us let us go first,
We always disappoint you guys, starting from our suprising/unexpected quick recovery from the civil war till now, we will continue to disappoint you.....

Nigeria inherited a pailamentry system of government,and that is what the British organized ,so forget about the American system,it's not for a poor country.igbo country is very easy to get if you are very sincere and want your own country,it's so easy.but you are claiming other places and it's a problem for does minorities.

lexy2014:
Am not 2 sure what being vulnerable has got 2do with d discussion. D question I asked is y is ACF saying they are against him?

These are political statements,they are very tactical people and every statement and interview has a motive just like this one.

lexy2014:
Then y is ACF saying they are against him?

Don't be vunerable atiku cannot other restructure,no hausa ,fulani person will restructure.

Elvis778:
well am not here to talk about the coup, my main point is, we never abolished regional government, Gowon did, and that's one of the reason we the SE choose to separate......
Right now, we need that system like never before, that's the only saviour our country have now.
but what i don't understand is, why is t that the yorubas are now suddenly against restructuring, is it because of hate??

You are not sincere at all,you created a system that worked against your plans of dominating everybody.he you had succeeded or you happen to have power like northerners,you would have been worst.you are not in support of resturcturing,go and read the ohanaze communique and you will know what you people want.you want more states creation instead of regions?you want state police instead of regional police?you want state of resident to replace state of origin?you want local governments to be scrapped.you are all part of the Nigerian problem.all southeast states are not up to Oyo state in western Nigeria in land mass but you want another state in that small area.

Elvis778:
we tried to explain to them that ZIK was only a ceremonial president and has nothing to do with decision making, he is innocent and never a part in the cause of our problem as of that time, but it fell on deaf ears.

Zik was manipulative and was betrayed after,due to jelaousy,he thought he could outsmart them.he knew about the coup and escaped under the pretence of travelling

[quote author=Elvis778 post=76936859]so you see, we never abolished the 4 regions, we loved the system too, and note, the igbos never carried out the coup alone, the 3 regions were included, but lead by an igbo man, the northern only got angry when they realised we informed ZIK ahead of the exercise[/quote
]OF all Decrees enacted in Nigeria, none is more controversial than Decree No 34 of 1966. It was promulgated on May 24, 1966 by then Head of State Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi Ironsi(1924-1966). It was called Unification Decree while some critics at that time labelled it De-unification Decree. It was the Decree that started the death of Regionalism-an issue which is still generating controversy presently. Although then Head of State, General Yakubu Gowon, repealed Decree 34 on August 31, 1966 through Decree 9

Elvis778:
so you see, we never abolished the 4 regions, we loved the system too, and note, the igbos never carried out the coup alone, the 3 regions were included, but lead by an igbo man, the northern only got angry when they realised we informed ZIK ahead of the exercise

In August 1965 a group of Army majors (Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu, Emmanuel Ifeajuna, Timothy Onwuatuegwu, Chris Anuforo, Don Okafor, Humphrey Chukwuka, and Adewale Ademoyega

Elvis778:
now listen to the true history, on the 1st of October 1963, Aguiyi ironsi led a coup which resulted to the death of tafawabelewa and some others, ZIK was on the run, as he wanted to safeguard his own life. Aguiyi took over power, and ruled for only 3 months, Note: he maintained the 4 regional government.
Shortly after, the north retaliated, Gowon lead his own coup which saw to the assassination of Aguiyi. He assumed government, abolished the 4 regional government and then came up with Federalism, which lead to the creation of 12 states, 1966.
So where are all this your lies coming from?

Fiscal federalism cannot favour the igbos and hausas and you people are joker's and not serious with restructuring.you are waiting for your turn.you people advised Jonathan until he failed.

Elvis778:
now listen to the true history, on the 1st of October 1963, Aguiyi ironsi led a coup which resulted to the death of tafawabelewa and some others, ZIK was on the run, as he wanted to safeguard his own life. Aguiyi took over power, and ruled for only 3 months, Note: he maintained the 4 regional government.
Shortly after, the north retaliated, Gowon lead his own coup which saw to the assassination of Aguiyi. He assumed government, abolished the 4 regional government and then came up with Federalism, which lead to the creation of 12 states, 1966.
So where are all this your lies coming from?

That was not federalism,it was a designed federalism with same Unitary formation.

Elvis778:
now listen to the true history, on the 1st of October 1963, Aguiyi ironsi led a coup which resulted to the death of tafawabelewa and some others, ZIK was on the run, as he wanted to safeguard his own life. Aguiyi took over power, and ruled for only 3 months, Note: he maintained the 4 regional government.
Shortly after, the north retaliated, Gowon lead his own coup which saw to the assassination of Aguiyi. He assumed government, abolished the 4 regional government and then came up with Federalism, which lead to the creation of 12 states, 1966.
So where are all this your lies coming from?

They saw the benefits to them and continued the unitary system till today.

Elvis778:
now listen to the true history, on the 1st of October 1963, Aguiyi ironsi led a coup which resulted to the death of tafawabelewa and some others, ZIK was on the run, as he wanted to safeguard his own life. Aguiyi took over power, and ruled for only 3 months, Note: he maintained the 4 regional government.
Shortly after, the north retaliated, Gowon lead his own coup which saw to the assassination of Aguiyi. He assumed government, abolished the 4 regional government and then came up with Federalism, which lead to the creation of 12 states, 1966.
So where are all this your lies coming from?

Ironsi suspended the constitution through a decree.

Elvis778:
now listen to the true history, on the 1st of October 1963, Aguiyi ironsi led a coup which resulted to the death of tafawabelewa and some others, ZIK was on the run, as he wanted to safeguard his own life. Aguiyi took over power, and ruled for only 3 months, Note: he maintained the 4 regional government.
Shortly after, the north retaliated, Gowon lead his own coup which saw to the assassination of Aguiyi. He assumed government, abolished the 4 regional government and then came up with Federalism, which lead to the creation of 12 states, 1966.
So where are all this your lies coming from?

Zik was not on the run!he was informed ahead of the coup ,while Yoruba and northern leaders were killed,the north revenged against does killings and yorubas are yet to revenge.

Elvis778:
jealous you say?? When we were enjoying the system, our coal lime stone with mini agriculture was really paying......Only God know where you borrowed this lies from, we all know that right from the beginning, the Yoruba have always been the one jealous of the Igbos, and that was why the yorubas merged with the north during the civil war, they wanted to make sure we all go down to rubles, so they could take over all we own in lagos as of then. Well you guys succeeded, but guess what?? We came back to our feet so fast than you could imagine, and we are leading again.
May i remind you that we igbos never had opportunity to control the government, we only had a ceremonial president. The closest we got to power was with Aguiyi, but he was assassinated within 3 months, we had more of Hausa leaders, and if i should correct you, they abolished that structure of government shortly after the discovery of OIL, because they knew they ain't benefiting from it, so don't come here and tell us fake history.

Yorubas joined in the war because you were invading and coming towards Lagos ,and Awo was a finance minister,he changed the Nigerian currency so that you will not buy weapons with them,because your soliders looted the central bank of Nigeria.He did not allow food to come into your place because your soliders were seizing the food and eating and feeding fat while the people were dieing.lastly ,he gave them 20pounds each because you all claim you have money in the banks ,and it was all a lie,the total figure listed was more than all the money at the national bank,hence he gave everybody money ,which was 20pounds to accomdate all of you.

Elvis778:
jealous you say?? When we were enjoying the system, our coal lime stone with mini agriculture was really paying......Only God know where you borrowed this lies from, we all know that right from the beginning, the Yoruba have always been the one jealous of the Igbos, and that was why the yorubas merged with the north during the civil war, they wanted to make sure we all go down to rubles, so they could take over all we own in lagos as of then. Well you guys succeeded, but guess what?? We came back to our feet so fast than you could imagine, and we are leading again.
May i remind you that we igbos never had opportunity to control the government, we only had a ceremonial president. The closest we got to power was with Aguiyi, but he was assassinated within 3 months, we had more of Hausa leaders, and if i should correct you, they abolished that structure of government shortly after the discovery of OIL, because they knew they ain't benefiting from it, so don't come here and tell us fake history.

After independence there was a coup lead by igbo officers,who killed leaders of the north and south .true or false?

Elvis778:
the main thing is that our economy then was more than enough for us, we produced enough to feed us and also surplus for export which made us grow very fast economically, without OIL.
And hope you remember south east was leading economically then? before the civil war which brought us down to level zero.

Well to get out of this mess ,the east and west will need to come together with middle belt plus South South and get rid of these people.but you people must admit destroying the system and apologize and reconcile and stop claiming peoples land areas.

Elvis778:
the main thing is that our economy then was more than enough for us, we produced enough to feed us and also surplus for export which made us grow very fast economically, without OIL.
And hope you remember south east was leading economically then? before the civil war which brought us down to level zero.

How many industrial areas were created by zik and opara?

Elvis778:
the main thing is that our economy then was more than enough for us, we produced enough to feed us and also surplus for export which made us grow very fast economically, without OIL.
And hope you remember south east was leading economically then? before the civil war which brought us down to level zero.

If you were economically successful,you won't even destroy the system in the first place.what was the GDP?and was the price of coal or palm kernel so high than cocoa prices?or you had some special income that was not known .you were so jealous and disorganise and created today yesterday.

Elvis778:
Nigeria once practised regional government, and that was before we outrightly discovered oil, south east was one of the most successful regions of then if not the most successful, Nigeria as a country has practised alot of economic structures, and right now, what we need is the modern day regional government, an almost independent state, all governors would be the president of his own state, controller of the armed forces for his own state, there would be a state police, the states would have it's own laws, just like the USA.
what you just stated above was another structure of government and not the kind of restructuring we are talking about. Thanks

Was education free?was healthcare free ?what did you do, to be successful? You don't even understand anything?we practiced regions ,not states .

Elvis778:
You are very funny sha,
we all know that southeasterners are the brain box behind the economic boom in your major city, LAGOS, but am telling you that when the time comes, those niggas there go free una come back to their home land.........
And mind you, south east has alot of natural resources yet to be exploited, including large deposits of oil and natural gas (FG is yet to consider that due to the cost of reaching these places). Now tell me, when we combine our hardwork, business, clothing, oil, lime stone, coal, agriculture and tax money togather with our industrious nature and Education,
southwest would not stand a chance to even see our brake light, talkmore of compete with us. Argue with your ancestors

The system was practiced before for 14years,you could not come up with all you have mentioned.You people organized a coup and destroyed the system.