OtyandTheFangs:

What if he's got a few trained APBTs or Kangals. Would you still go ahead?

P.S. The money is he's by the way. If at all you got mauled by his dogs, you'd have to give him 50k from your part. To make it even

APBT has no human aggression. They are bred for their hunt drive.

IamAnderson:

the malinois you saw in prisons are used to track down and chase escaped convicts not to stop them from escaping.
I actually don't hate malinois contrary to that, I admire your breeding and training program.
my issue was when you compared the strength of a malinois to a Caucasian or kangal. malinois are not breed for their strength rather they are breed for their speed and agility.
I'm not in support of dog fights but if a fight should occur, a Caucasian will easily take out two malinois. when it comes to brute strength, a malinois is inadequate.
guarding a property requires strength not speed and agility, when faced with a threat your malinois can be brought down with one bullet meanwhile it took eight bullets to kill one kangal that took it's job too seriously and mauled an old woman to death.
if I was to use a dog to track,chase or retrieve things I would pick a malinois but when I need a strong guard dog, I will pick a kangal or Caucasian.
a well trained malinois is not as effective as a well trained kangal or Caucasian in guarding property.
malinois are agile yes but agility can only take you so far in guarding a place,you need strength to defend the place from an actual threat.

I argue no more because I realized you are not listening. Goodluck with your dogs if you have one.

IamAnderson:
wait someone is actually comparing the strength of a malinois to a Caucasian??! lmao!
malinois are agile dogs but they are not even close to caucs in strength.
can a malinois take down two grown men?(I've seen a cauc take down three)
can a malinois kill a wolf?(caucs are famous for that)
a malinois can barely stand it's ground with other large dogs (boerbeol, bullmastiffs, kangals and the rest)
malinois are fast and agile yes but they are not strong.
all these pictures you posted are of malinois doing agile things not showcasing their strength.
yes they are used in airports but for different reasons it's never because of their strength. if it's like that, they should have been using them to guard prisons and sending them to the battlefront.
if a group of thieves break into your compound what will your malinois do?
run circles around them till they're dizzy?? lol
sha their is a saying that a man who has never lived in a mansion will be impressed by a bungalow

I'm not in the business of comparing breeds but I don't see any dogs going to war these days other than a Malinois or GSD. I'm not interested in dog fighting either because it's cruel. Prison guards are using Malinois all over the world. I'm a dog trainer and breeder at the same time and effectiveness is what I crave for.

Every breed of dogs was bred for a purpose but how many of them represent that purpose in this age? If you are so certain of your dog, why can't you pick up the challenge and let us simulate invasion into your property?

abbeg:
Show me how to post video.I found one with SMALL Caucasians to show you.

It is obvious you know nothing about dogs other than the online information. Working dogs is about effectiveness, not size. I will stop arguing with you because I have less time for facebook trainer like you. Good luck with your theory and stay safe. Before, I leave here is a link where caucasian are being trained to attack.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL-lnkKoS5o

@IamAnderson are you blind to what I wrote here before you are saying rubbish? I guess you are only interested in attacking me without even reading my comment on CO. You are just here wasting people's time with your ranting. Read between the line again and stop the nonsense you are writing.

abbeg:
So you're saying a malinois attack is deadlier than a Caucasians? I have seen a Caucasian FLIP a man in that suit in the air and you're showing me this small thing as deadly attack? Malinois are very good dogs but seriously they shouldn't be compared to dogs like kangals or rotts when it comes to guarding.Much less attacking.

Just show me a video, please. I will stop responding to you if you don't back up your claims with proof.

jeff1607:


and by "If your dog attacked without running away, you win" I get the amount we bet with right?

the enclosure would be a pen ,( can't let him roam the area cos of other people he has injured, if you agree in an enclosed area) then I am game,the item would be kept in a corner, (Agbara ,ogun state. Sunday. 25k?

kindly drop your contact so we talk more

We can look for an uncompleted building because there will be no place to run inside a pen. I will drive down from Osogbo and let's make it 100k to cover my expenses. My phone number is 07066423482. Sunday is a good time for me.

agboedeh:
@oluomoadebayo before I say anything..just wanna say am a huge fan of ur work. Love ur dogs so much.

belgium Shepherd are more flexible and faster than most security dogs. they have d drive to to learn and are more focused during training. But I would rather go for a DDR because of they have all these qualities (not compared to d malinois tho) and are larger in size(I love huge dogs).
I don't think a pure bred Caucasian would back down from a fight.. I would have to disagree. they are bred to face wolves,bears etc. Caucasian are much stronger than a malinois and I personally prefer them to malinois in terms of guarding d compound.

You have the right to prefer a breed to another. I will not derail from the scope of this thread anymore if anyone wants to prove me wrong, let's get out of the keyboard and go to the field.

jeff1607:


if you get mauled or bitten do I still win?

will you hold weapons?

plain clothes or padded?

do I still need to pay for your injuries?


would you like it recorded?


cos I am in


love your dogs by the way, you are really doing a great job.

I will not ruin your dog by any means but I can hit with my legs. No weapon and I might wear a padded costume. You are free to record. If your dog attacked without running away, you win.

I can do it anytime this week.

abbeg:
I know that gsd has different kinds.But seriously malinois is being overrated here.Especially their intelligence.They are still not more intelligent than gsd.It is faster and can run down criminals better than gsd.I think it also has better sense of smell.That's why they are overtaking gsd in the working dog role.But as for me I prefer gsd cos of the strength advantage though I can't deny malinois are very good working dogs.

Malinois is overrated but there are more Malinois dogs working in German police than a German Shepherd, that is very strange. The Russians have a caucasian but they will only use Malinois and GSD for their military work.

Like I said before, the 50k challenge is on anyone that has a Caucasian or Rottweiler as guard dogs and I'm open to a challenge as well.

https://vimeo.com/204943572?fbclid=IwAR0UDczU04pjtFfiE5QxLLp7DLt3K6potxayH5O1dM9J778aCCrlGfgbtao

The attached photo is;
Soviet soldiers with Anti-Tank Dogs, Battle of Moscow, 1941.

abbeg:
I dont want to start treating someone to prove a point.Caucasians and the like are better guard dogs than malinois and their kind but malinois and co are better working dogs.But they can still switch roles and excel at them.Reason this,if malinois are such excellent guard dogs why don't they use them to guard prisons and big buildings? They are smarter but it's not smartness that will take down well built men.That's what caucs rotts and boerbels were bred for.Brute strength.Not their intelligence.The people that use gsd at airports and barracks use them for intelligence and for the fact that they can be called off a chase.They are also more agile and faster than big strong dogs.But when it's time to fight they still fall back on big dogs.E.g. the battle of stalingrad in ww2.It is the deadliest battle in history.Caucasians fought alongside Russian soldiers in that war and took out machine gun positions.One bullet wasn't enough to bring them down.Can a malinois do that? but gsd and malinois are used as spies which Caucasian and mastiffs can't do due to their size and unintelligence.Do you get my point?

It is wise to doubt beliefs but it is foolish to doubt reality. I will like to put you in a suit to feel the impact of a Malinois instead of arguing with your uninformed assessment.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bEj84UYkdg&sns=fb&fbclid=IwAR2Qz0tuKIVk7w2QGaQPzQd_86ymHcM0exF1ow6JbVsKlG2SvpjYoUGK34o

mhd5757:

So this dog too is a melonois, that means my dog might have a little bit of melonois blood in him because he really looks like this one here, the one you said is the breeding female, it really looks like mine here.

lol

tileygrouty:
nice German shepherds

This is not a German shepherd thread.

abbeg:
Its not all.Breeds like Caucasians and kangals fight to the end.I heard of a Caucasian that took down 3 men that came to steal, with a gunshot wound.Now that's spirit.Even a kangal that killed 3 wolves.Whereas gsd and malinois are better for tracking,running down and holding down targets until it's owner gets there.That's why they are police dogs .A Rottweiler or kangal will first of all demolish the target to their satisfaction before stopping.But you can easily call off a malinois from its target.So overall big strong dogs make better guard dogs than smaller faster dogs while the latter makes better working dogs.But they can still dabble in each other's jobs a bit.This is all my opinion before someone starts hurtling facts my way!

So sad, people relied so much on stories than a personal experience. Let us do it this way, I will come to invade your house in a simulation of a real scenario, release your Caucasian or Rottwieller but put 50k at your doorstep. If I can go with the money, it is mine, if I'm attacked it's yours. How about that?

abbeg:
No thanks

It will be fun.

abbeg:
I agree,though I'd pick strength over agility any day.In my opinion mastiffs and LGDs make the best guard dogs.Smart agile dogs like malinois and gsd are better as police and military dogs.That's their primary purpose.They use them for brains not brawn.For guard dogs rotts,Caucasians,boerbels and the like come into play.But these malinois are agile! See that one climbing fence!

Most dogs you mentioned will run away under serious pressure from an intruder. People are breeding them for size now instead of the spirit.

abbeg:
I agree,though I'd pick strength over agility any day.In my opinion mastiffs and LGDs make the best guard dogs.Smart agile dogs like malinois and gsd are better as police and military dogs.That's their primary purpose.They use them for brains not brawn.For guard dogs rotts,Caucasians,boerbels and the like come into play.But these malinois are agile! See that one climbing fence!

You need to visit my house.

elkharpone:
Bro you ain't gat chill at all
Lmao!!

It is just the truth.

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Eveezy:

Nigeria security, forces nd even in airport use dem nw

Any security agency that is not using a Malinois is behind.

mhd5757:
If have seen some really fierce melonois, especially the ones they use as guard dogs, very vicious! They growl more than they bark with that their black mouth.
They make excellent guard and protection dogs.

Their barking is very strong.

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I don't understand you anymore @OP. You involved me in this issue and I tried to bring both of you together in order to get to the root of the matter but you rushed here to post everything online. The guy is not on Nairaland and he can't defend himself, why can't you let me sort this out for both of ya?

Venom is growing.

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MajorLanister:
@olumoadebayo just continue ur thread and ignore that guy... It's obvious he's just a kid. Loving ur dogs anyway.

There is no good way to answer fools when they say something stupid. If you answer them, then you, too, will look like a fool. If you don’t answer them, they will think they are smart.

space9880:



because of people like you that cannot afford one

Thank you. This breed is not for everybody especially a nuisance like him but the few ones who know what a working dog is all about. I will never argue over a breed because everyone has a reason for chosen his beloved breed of dogs.

For the sake of people who are following the thread, this is an approved breeding all the way from Belgium and attached document is a registered pedigree to back it up.

Venom is my pick of the litter and he is not for sale.

Ogcruz:


See this guy o
So u want to compare bite force?
U get mind sha o

I'll not get down to this dirty line with you because it's obvious that you don't know anything about dogs. My simple advice, get out of Google and go to the field. Let your work with dogs speak for you unless you will be classified as a simpleton.