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donroxy: The problem is some powerful African leaders covertly take instructions from some supremacists than their very own people !!

Merging smaller African countries together will no doubt has multiplie beneficial effect on the whole of Africans but don't forget, it is would be like you are merging France and UK together and both countries won't allow that (never) ....

The question is who will bell these cats ?

not really, Guinea, Senegal and Mali in particular have almost the same ethnic groups mainly Mande, Wolof and Fulanis, same thing for South of Mauritania. It's true the politicians will attempt to stop it for their own benefit though. Francophone west Africa was supposed to be one country but each group of politicians prefer to be "first in Benin Republic than 6th in Dakar" meaning they wanted to retain a high position. The only way to end this is for a pan African movement to take control of the national assemblies and gradually unite the countries.

pleep: Stop spamming pictures. [s]Everyone knows by now that you can cherry pick photos from the internet to create any image of a nation you want.[/s]

The only info we should be relying on to form an opinion is quantifiable data like, standard of living, infant mortality and life expectancy.

Not everyone, just YOU so far. I bet even the pictures of new highways in Ethiopia would do anything for you. As if a country can develop if people can't move from place to another.

pleep: Stop spamming pictures. Everyone knows by now that you can cherry pick photos from the internet to create any image of a nation you want.

The only info we should be relying on to form an opinion is quantifiable data like, standard of living, infant mortality and life expectancy.

to increase life expectancy, living standard, reduce infant mortality, you need schools, roads, houses for people and hospitals. You need to build industries to create jobs for them. You can't just expect these things to happen. As you can see, the buildings are NEW, meaning the country is changing. It's that change in the right direction that I am applauding. Having a life expectancy of 51 years is bad, but even worse is not doing anything to change that. Some people would rather whine all day instead of doing something about it. Well the leaders of Equatorial Guinea are doing something to change the country.

Some people do not want Africans to raise their standard of living. They have gotten so used to us being poor than they can't conceive a world where things are different. Well, Africa is changing, for the better. Yes there are many challenges but that doesn't mean we should succumb to negativity.

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pleep: This is a truly horrible counter argument brother, you actually prove my point more then you refute it. Yes,the whole world was under European control at one point but they made it out, while africa could be colonized again tm if the white man decided. Japan Advanced from a Feudal system to being able to defeat a western power (russia) in the sino japanese war in a couple centuries. Another example are the arabs, who were blessed with oil and ,despite being a fanatical group of people, were able to turn many of their countries into paradises on earth.

What does Nigeria do with her oil?.... population too high? ok what about equatorial guinea. Their GPD per capita is 25 fuking thousand per individual and they live in the jungle like monkeys with a 51 year life expectancy



https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html

Here are what those living like "monkeys" in Equatorial Guinea are building.

Fulaman198: Nagge/Na'i for cattle

I am talking about how the Cows are in a circle and eating, we call it Tupal.

pleep: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/antonia-opiah/the-changing-business-of-_b_4650819.html

thanks for the source, it says that the haircare industry could potentially reach $500 billions but it does not say how much of this market is controlled by Koreans. What would be interesting to see is how much of the weave products represent in this $500 billion because that's what they Koreans control. This won't last forever as we have seeing more and more black people open up their store, it's only a matter of time before they start their own factories. Here is a New York Times article on it http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/09/nyregion/black-women-find-a-growing-business-opportunity-care-for-their-hair.html?emc=edit_tnt_20140908&nlid=59732435&tntemail0=y&_r=1.

These sisters have decided to take action instead of complaining. The hair braiding part of the this industry is controlled by African women in the US and Europe, a Congolese sister has opened the first African hair salon in China. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/23/african-hair-salon-china, and it is even attracting Chinese. http://www.bbc.com/news/business-21421956

pleep: The first female billionaire on the planet earth was a black woman named Madame Walker, she lived in 1918 and made her fortune selling weaves, lye and other black haircare products. Now, the black hair industry is a $500 billion dollar market and it is owned by fucking Koreans

That is the definition degeneration.

Not to even talk about the increase in single motherhood, incarceration rates and STD's.

Can we have the source?

Mali or Senegal, not sure.

Senegal

Mali

kossam

Mauritania ??

look at all of that gold

how do you call this Fulaman?

ezeagu: This racial characteristic thing is nonsense really, you just need to look at African examples from before the slave trade / colonisation to see that West Africans especially are capable of organisation. Everything else just sounds like racial hierarchy, and to be fair there are black countries doing better than many non-black.

true, we really need to stop focusing on genes. Even white liberals have let go of it. Recently a Chinese American lady put up a list of the 8 most successful groups in the US and she mentioned Nigerians. That goes to tell everyone that culture rather gene makes the difference.
Which is why I talked about a cultural renaissance to raise our continent.

freeafrica365: Ok African family: @agitator @chulka12 @donroxy @pazienza @dkronickle @omarbah @missberrypop5

This African has given a great response on what we should do @camnewton4pres says:


Interesting , so what's the way to go? I believe we should start by banning the broadcast of any foreign channel in our countries by foreign I mean western and eastern

I have never seen a Cameroonian local channel being broadcasted in francE or in the USA, so why should we continue to allow the brains of our youths to b brainwashed, they are programmed to like what's is oversea and hate what they see around them, in fact in my country I'm pretty sure that less than 20% watch local channels .

Secondly whenever we go or find ourselves in great numbers, money should channeled to build African schools, the Arabs and indians do so it is very important for our children abroad to know their history and story, their culture etc, the white supremacist schools will never give a chapter on Igbo ,Yoruba etc even if the 90% of the students are from Nigeria

Thirdly we should stop bashing our leaders or disrespecting them, I have always found funny, the way westerners come to our countries, and only interview poor or low life individuals with tricky questions , if indeed their goals were to know anything about the economy or politic of any African country, why not contact an African expert from that country? They are also obsessed with our leaders to the point that they have made us lazy, you see they will tell you how your leaders are bad can't manage us ,how we are poor because of our leaders blah blah, but they won't tell us whenever we have a good leader they stage a coup to replace him, they assassinate him , they go to war with the country etc, the so called bad leaders are most of the time maintained by them and the good receive sanctions to present them as bad a very tricky plot hence u see African protesting in foreign embassies ,begging westerners to come and remove their presidents, tufiakwa ,if you don't respect your house who will

Fourthly ,we need to learn real patriotism and nationalism, not the kind of patriotism when the super eagles won a game the kind of patriotism which will make us hack industrial companies in the west to steal technology and knowledge in x or y field, the kind of patriotism which will make us settle for a lower salary instead of going abroad to work and help some more the white supremacist agenda and pay taxes them , etc

It is also very important for us to become independent for thenthings we need the most , how many anti retroviral companies exist in Africa yet we are the continent with the most infected people, how many condoms companies ? How many African countries manufacture their own vaccines even average poliovirus vaccine has to b shipped from the west and other Asian countries,why put our lfe in the hand of our enemies ?

Weapons, we should stop being passive and peaceful and adopt aggressive policies, I read about Nigeria being refused weapons deal, and really saddens me that there is basically no African country which can help, therefore is it not time for us to build our own hardware ? I'm not talking about bulletproofs vests and ammunitions , I'm talking about missiles , jets, shields, submarines etc ,we are tube richest continent on earth why should we put the defense of our riches and wealth in the hands of our enemies ?

We must adopt local language as our national language enough with alien languages ,in fact my dream is to have us speak the same language at least for what they call subsaharan Africa .swahili

Helping and loving each other , it really baffled me when Nigeria and other west af countries were the ones pushing the most for the removal of gbagbo and ghadaffi with Nigeria even offering weapons against the former , na wa oo how can we move forward when we don't have the same agenda ? We should plan or put in place a 15 years agenda which should revolved around removing any western influence in any African country , even if that means others African countries teaming up to fight the imperialist, if cameroon is attacked by France , African fighters should come from all over the continent and the world to defend Cameroon and kick the imperialist

All African countries must be linked with roads, railways and airports,and ferries its inadmissible that we know more about the west than the countries surrounding us , it's beyond silly that traveling from Cameroon to ivory coast costs more than Cameroon to France .what is this ?

Little African countries should merge into bigger ones, this limit the influence the imperialists can have , imagine Benin Togo,Gabon,Gambia being bribed to vote against African project ? There are too many unnecessary voices in Africa


Put a ban on weaves ,wigs , and bleach

Beautiful, you've touched all the weak spots. As far as the foreign channels, I am a big fan of sponsoring local channels that will help greatly in preserving our culture and languages. As these local channels offer better programs to the populace, they will gradually let go of the foreign ones. Look at the success of Nollywood for example, African women prefer it to other movies.

In order to have one political agenda, we need to have pan Africanist parties. To get independence from France, Africans created the Rassemblement Democratique Africain which had branches in almost all of the colonies. They used the movement/party to educate the populace, have a voice in French assembly and eventually they controlled the local administrations. We need to do something similar. If we are to be united, we need to act if we are one already. PanAfricanism has not produce the intended consequences because there is no grassroots movement behind it, the populace either do not know about it or they do not see benefits in following it.

I am Guinean, but I do believe that Guinea, Mali, Senegal, Guinea Bissau and Gambia should be one country. So I do think the small countries need to band together, create a bigger tax base, a stronger currency that will be used to finance infrastructure and help businesses grow.

There are cultural differences between people that explain why some tend to be more successful than others but there aren't genetic differences. Nigerians do good in US universities compared to black Americans, are they genetically different? No. It has to do with how we are raised, the values our parents thought us. Germans tend to beat the French in almost anything, war, economics and even Football . Yet, one wouldn't say they are genetically different.

Obi1kenobi: There's something I want to point out to the wannabe Afrocentrists, "black power" and "national pride" chest thumpers. If you absolutely envy NOTHING or LITTLE about white society and aspire for nothing in their societies, then kudos to you. You're a true disciple. Possibly naive. Possibly in denial. But at least you have a principled stand. If you aspire for your society to be like theirs (which most do) and claim you don't wish you were them or in their shoes, you're a pretentious liar.

Basically you are saying, we can't progress without being white. If we are to progress we need to be like them. I wonder how many Asians thought the same when their countries were poor too.

Fulaman198:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr6FJjIK2ak

my favorite of tonight's selectionm Yo Geno ɓantu fi Pulaaku , O walla Fulbe dunuya fof e nder ganndal, soobe, jawdi e laamu.

I would choose to come back as a Pullo without hesitation. My second choice is Arab though,
they don't take any disrespect from people, I like that about Arabs. If you take something from them, they
will make you pay or feel their pain one way or the other.

Fulaman198: For you bandam OmarBah:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH3k0Dm5M68

such show of pride, I love my peps. I like how she is blending in the Serdu with her music.
She seems to be singing in the Futa Jallon Pulaar too. LOL

CAMNEWTON4PRES: Yup in fact everyone in francophone Africa hates us from Senegalese to Ivorian from Gabon to Congo

Not true, Guineans do not have any problems with Cameroonians, in fact my high school French teacher was Cameroonian.
I had a friend in my neighborhood who was from Cameroon too, and he was treated like a Guinean.

Now back to the topic, I like how confident Nigerians are. This confidence allows them to succeed in countries like the US where the weak does not survive. Plus Nigerians do not seem to be xenophobic (maybe Ghanaians would disagree on this).
As for Nigeria, I seriously think it should be at least in the top 10 countries in terms of GDP. Your country has the population size, the resources and most importantly your diaspora. If I were high up in the Nigerian government, I would have built the biggest spying program on earth to bring home all sort of tech and knowledge.

kingston277: Some historians would beg to differ; extend those "best days" to the 19th century.
Oddly enough, the biggest threat ended up being the Moroccans. Plus I'm sure the camel caravans could've done good in areas the wheel would get stuck.
According to a book I'm reading, the slave trade flourished thanks to Columbus. If the Euros didn't sail there and see the demand for slaves, the trade would've died off quicker.
I wasn't aware they sold their own. Do provide sources please. As for the "thugs" thing. I'm not sure how maintain a century long industry is thuggery especially when Africans do it which your comment seems to imply. The only crime of the elites was the magnitude they sold them off. Some even placed restrictions and built up plantations to avoid selling slaves that could be used for local production.
The Europeans use a thing called the EU(NATO and UN by extension), they have no need to unite politically anymore because they have organizations like the mentioned ones and have moved past that outdated stage. Ever wonder why Scotland is leaving the UK?
Better to start small and break up before uniting again. It allows for build up and focus on particular ethnic groups and histories which in turn allows for proper address of issues. Its important to isolate the cancer and destroy it, not cover it up in one big dust bin of a country that still can't live up to the glory of Oyo, Benin or Asante.

It is well known the role of many monarchs played in the slave trade. Actually some have even apologized formally for the role played in the slave trade by allowing it. Here is a link if you want to know more http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/genetic-quest-leads-african-apology-role-slave-trade-f8C11467842

Yes the slave trade did flourish with the discovery of the Americas, but with the demand came a supply provided in part by Africans that sold their own. If the Songhai empire had been able to establish its authority firmly, this would not have happened. But instead the states with their weak armies and economies could not stop the slave trade.

The EU and NATO are two different organizations, the latter is a kind of joint command for western countries including North America. The EU has the ambition of becoming a stronger political entity to compete with North America and China.

The potential for chaos is just too high to have the current states break along ethnic lines and then reunite. The wars that will ensue will be an excuse for the US and France to invade us once again in the name of " stopping Africans from killing each other" ( believe me, westerners will buy this BS) and to "protect their interests". In that case we will have another "Berlin conference" where the new states will be defined by the new invaders. The best way is to for ECOWAS to have an army and political capital to enforce peace and security if necessary then new states could be "added" to the unions based on the ethnic lines if necessary.

The Hausa have a very developed language, I wonder why their schools are not teaching in it. I bet people would be more willing to learn through it than English.

kingston277: It started around the time of colonialism when negative foreign ideals and mismanagement brought down the great civilizations that once stool more centuries. African history in all its glory.

So, Op. A better question would be, why have we fallen so far from the civilization we developed and chosen to worship foreign peoples rather than turn to the people who spent the last millenia taming the African landscapes and building advanced civilizations? And is there a way to recreate this long lost advancement techniques?

it has to do with the severe inferiority complex that we have developed since slavery and colonialism. Mind you, even the descendants of slaves that came back to Sierra Leone, Liberia or even the ones that used to live in Saros district in Lagos hated the indigenous Africans and looked down upon them. They were convinced that no civilization ever came out of Africa. To this day, most black people in the West think that we walk around half naked and live in trees. Which is bizarre to me because how would they explain the fact that we can do math, physics and speak English properly if we lived in trees.
Intellectuals like Henry Rawlingson Carr who were among the most educated Africans of his time and had a rivalry with Herbert Macaulay believed that the best way for Africans to evolve was going through the British. And he was not the only one that thought so. It goes to tell you how much we have willingly alienated our own culture. Imagine if people like him had written books in Yoruba using the Latin scripts if necessary, how many people would have gotten out of ignorance at the time? But they couldn't do it because their mind was thinking in that direction.
So I would tell you my friend, that we first need to love our own culture and realize that true progress is in improving it not washing ourselves of it to embrace something else. There is no respect in that. Why do you think no matter what a black American does , he still can't get respect? "Even if you in a Benz , you are still a nigga" Kanye West.

@ AmunRaOlodumare, great website and what you wrote goes directly in the line with the post. Talking about South African, don't the Afrikaners have their own school where the language is Afrikaans?

Fulaman,
here is a book by Amadou Ampathe Ba on Kumen
http://www.webpulaaku.net/defte/ahb/kumen/index.html

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