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If I have the chance to visit Nigeria, Yola and Sokoto would be my favorite destinations. I want to see the latter because it was the capital of the Sokoto Caliphate. Visiting Kano too would be interesting but it seems like it is a Hausa dominated city.

Fulaman198:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TqwlGksjHM

Yo Geno 6antu fi Zone Fulbe. I have learned so much from their page on facebook. And this great video shows pictures of fulbe from throughout Africa. I have to say, those Adamawana girls are really beautiful. I might have to go there and marry one.

Nayah: Culturally speaking and even geographically Cameroon has more in common with Central African countries than West this is English speaking people who think we re in West Africa but we don't sorry

From what I know they seem to be closer to West Africans , especially Ivorians. In Montreal and other universities they hang out more with west African and they tend to understand/speak Nuchi too, that slang created in Cote d'Ivoire.
Due to the Fang ethnic group though, they tend to have ties with Equatorial Guinea and Gabon too, but as far as main stream culture, I think they are more West Africa.

Fulaman198: It would be nice and it could happen. Though I wouldn't want us to separate from our other African brothers and sisters. It would be nice if West Africa was all joined together into something bigger. Though some Africans may not want it. Though I could see the economical and fiscal benefits right away under the proper leadership.

A nation does not necessarily have to be within a defined country. We can still have close ties with one another.
Plus I really do hope that ECOWAS will be a stronger union some day with Cameroon as a member of course.

Bororojo are you Pullo?

A nation of Fulbe would be nice wouldn't? Especially when the countries in West Africa will adopt an open border where people and capital could move easily from "country" to another.

CAMNEWTON4PRES: Lol @ fulaman it was a question na ?


@ Omar is your name oumar Bah ? And are you from Mauritania?

I am Guinean indeed. Have you met Fulanis from Mauritania?

Fulaman198: Hey Brothers OmarBah and Bororojo I think you both would love this song it has a Fouta Djallon melody to it but in Fombina Adamawaare dialect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPy0s79yet4

How I would love to see greater collaboration between Yimo6e fulbe. By the way I don't know if you listen to Lama Sidibe
here is one of his song with the exact same melody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24R74OtEeg8

And here is my favorite from him, the title is Mamou, a city at the center of Guinea. It is well known that when you are traveling from Conakry and going to Futa, once you arrive in Mamou, the air changes and you feel at home. Let me stop right now, it's giving me nostalgia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pevWsMD0IW0

the tone tends to rise and drop indeed for Futa Jallon, I bet it's like a melody to you guys lol,
This difference would affect the understanding of the language for someone living in Adamawa for example. It could
difficult at first to follow them.

Fulaman198: Woodi, mi famay francais. In Adamawa and in some Mbororo dialects it's called "Ndandalu, Serredu or Odiiru" Anyways, I don't know why I can not sleep ROFL I have a lot on my mind.

Serdu is also used for it. We have synonyms too [LOL].

Bororojo: Futajaloore has some "interesting" twists to it i have noticed.
Unlike other Fulfulde dialects it is quite tonal.

could you elaborate please?

Fulaman198: Ayyo pullo bandam OmarBah, noy dun wi'ite 'flute' e foutajaloore?

Ko tammbinru "flute" wi'ite. If you speak french, or understand some of it, here is a dictionary actually that you can use.
I am sharing with as many people as I can.
http://www.peeral.com/saggitorde_f_f/index-french/main.htm

Too bad we do not do this in Futa Jallon anymore, maybe in some parts but not Futa Jallon. I used to attend the Toupal though, LOVE IT. Everyone brings out their best dish and share it with the "Wuro".

Nice video with the "rodeo". You know Fulaman, the history of Fulbe in Guinea says that the last [B]wave[/b] of Fulbe to arrive
in Guinea mainly came from Masina and Boundou in Mali. Afte watching this video I realize that their Pulaar is structured just like ours. The only
thing that differs is the pronunciation of certain words, basically accents. I'd love to visit Maasina some day but unfortunately unlike Adamawa and Futa Jallon , their climate seems to be harsh.

Takamba: Oh I see, and Guinea does not produce oil right? So that's why only foreign companies invest in mines. You could try agriculture for exportation, or even importation. and yeah services are always a good investment.

Not at the moment, they have found it at the coast but they still need to figure out if it is enough for commercial purposes.
Yes, agriculture, appliances, home furniture, you know things that people will always need. That's my thing.

Now Takamba , on the other hand if it was oil which has a high rate of return then I would definitely try to go in.
But mining takes too much capital, you need to be connected with banks or international investors.

Bororojo: Funny you would say that, since that is what your Hausa brothers here in Nigeria are doing...

are they "forcing" it or are Fulanis doing it willingly because it's just easier to communicate that way?

Takamba: No Serigne Touba is the only one called like that.
Yes brotherhood are an important element for the well being of the society but like everywhere they also have their negative sides.
It depends where you live at the moment for opportunities. Real estate is good but everyone is doing it at the moment it seems saturated. I'm myself doing some researchs on it but I cannot have all informations because I'm not in Senegal most of the year.
The good thing would be to go there if you're leaving elsewhere and investigate. I don't really trust people's advices because what works for you may not work for someone else.
But why don't you try mining in Guinea? Your country has rich natural resources.

Mining is interesting but it is capital intensive and you need political connections to get the licenses. Take Mount Simandou for example, it takes an investment of more than $20 billion for the project plus the cost of building the transGuinean railroad. The same with bauxite, a company just acquired a mine for $5 billions. The only way to compete with multinationals is if the state itself create its own mining companies. Gold and diamond mining are among the few a citizen can engage into. But even there, it's an environmental disaster and the revenue is low except for the guys at the village consuls and the ones at the ministry of mines. Siguiri in Northern Guinea is full of people mining gold. My thing would be bringing something that they actually consume.
If I have the money I would prefer doing the refining side of it like taking iron ore and making construction steel, cookware, tools etc...
Let foreign capital venture into that. As long as the government taxes them it's all good. What I am interesting is producing goods and services for the workers, that's where real money/less hassle is.

Takamba: Serigne Touba passed away in 1927 . You mean the current Khalif I think. His name is Serigne Mor Maty Leye Mbacke and yes he banned parity on the electoral lists.

Oh my bad, I know Serigne Ahmadou Bamba( May Allah Forgive Him and Accept Him in his Eternal Paradise) passed away in 1927. But
I thought every other Khalif is called that way. I guess I was wrong.
These religious institutions are important sister. They build a second layer of protection for the society. This way if the state fails, the morale
decline won't reach the society and devour it. This is why I believe Senegal is still culturally rich. You are greeted with Salamec or Nanga Def instead of "what's up" or Bonjour.
We are not going to finish this without me asking, what business opportunities do you see there? I know real estate is a big thing but what else would you suggest?

Didn't Serigne Touba prevent women from being on the list of deputies for the city?
I'd love to visit Touba some day, Tivaoune also and Madina Gounass of course

Takamba: Macky made her competing for the elections on purpose, so he would have an excuse to fire her. He knew that she wouldn't win. Losing local elections is not enough to fire a prime minister, he just wanted to replace her.
During the Podor elections I heard some disrespectful words like "tell Aissata that she is just a blacksmith daughter, a woman like her cannot compete with a Torodo like Racine".
I have no idea about her background, it was just what we were hearing from her (low class) opponents.
It's not a Sufi problem, because Aissata has been Podor's mayor for a long time. It is true that she won in extremis (by 6 votes), but she really won, Racine Sy, supported by Macky Sall really stole the victory from her.
It is one of Macky's tactics, to avoid the influence of the opposition.
He did the same thing in Saint Louis by stealing the victory from Ahmed Fall and giving it to his brother in law who is now the mayor.

oh wow, I thought she was of the Torodo caste. I guess I was mislead by her light skinned complexion. Knowing what she did for Podor, I think it's a shame to her treated that way.
I have a question Rox, how do Senegalese feel about the Sufi orders and rising power?

Takamba: Khalifa is very popular now, but only in Dakar. Mais comme on dit qui gagne Dakar gagne le Senegal.
Oh yes, I like Aissata, she really challenged Tanor for the presidency of the Socialist Party and if Khalifa Sall and the Socialist leaders didn't desolidarize from her she would won. Now during the elections for Podor mayor, Racine Sy one judge and stole the victory for the mayor elections from her. She is really a strong woman. All these politicians are sexist.
Aminata Toure would be another good choice. Too bad Macky Sall played her.

How so? Wasn't Mimi fired because APR lost the elections?
I followed the episode with Racine Sy. I do think everything will be done to weaken Aissata. It's tough to make
it in a vastly Muslim countries with strongly entrenched Sufi orders.

Takamba: Oh not Tanor, he was just a lucky boy, people have seen what he has done under Diouf administration. He is having right now problem with his party and is struggling to keep his place of leader.
Me too I'm not feeling Idy, he looks tortuous.
At this point I really don't know
We should maybe try a woman.

then Aissata Tall Sall, I love her. She has a lot of energy.
Oh we both forgot about Khalifa Sall , the mayor of Dakar. Il est presidentiable.

Takamba: Things got worse when Mbagnick Ndiaye (a Sereer) was thanking the First Lady because it was because of her that he and Mactar Ba were appointed in the government. It created a big debate and Mbagnick Ndiaye later apologized, but it cleared the questions on who was really taking the decisions. Now to be appointed you have to befriend or carry the bags of the First Lady, or be Toucouleur or Sereer .
People say that Macky Sall won't do a second term not because of ethnic thing but because the guy is not working, he is just gaining weight.

what a shame, at this point, I don't know who can replace. Maybe Tanor Dieng. He seems to be a good statesman.
Not Idy though, his thirst for power is scary.

Takamba: I think Aminata Toure (the previous PM) is Wolof. The situation in Guinea and Senegal are not the same but Macky is giving all the strategic positions to either his people or his wife's relatives. All these guys in the government the likes of Abdou Lo etc are Toucouleurs, even if they have Wolof surnames.

I see what you mean. Well if he does not included people from all background, he sure won't get reelected in 2017.
Guinea is in really bad shape. There is so much tension and rivalry between Fulans and Maninkas. I know Senegal will avoid it,
your politicians are more responsible.

Takamba: No not a movement but it's to show the Toucouleur mentality. When a Toucs get appointed to a special position immediately he fires all the staff and hires Toucouleurs. All tribes do it but it is more common with the Toucouleurs, they do it even more than the Fula. Just like the thing Macky Sall is doing right now.

Guineans claim they fear giving power to a Fula for that reason. I thought Macky had more Serer and Wolof in his government?
I know his current prime minister is Serer and the previous was Maninka if I am not mistaken.

question for you Takamba, what is this Neddo Ko Bandoum? I know what it literally means but is it a cultural movement?

Takamba: Oh, I go to seneweb everyday and there aren't ethnic problems there, the lone problems are coming from trolls trying to pass themselves as Peuls.
Mbalakh music is an adaptation of Cuban salsa mixed to Senegalese rythms (Wolof, serer, Fula and others).
The problem is there wasn't only Fula living in Tekrour, Wolof (the ancestors of what will become wolof people) and serer lived in Futa before and serer left for the south.
As a Guinean you cannot have any problem with Wolof or Fulas or any other ethnic group in Senegal because beyond our different cultures all Senegalese are one. There is not ethnicism in Senegal (I can't say the same for Guinea).
Ndiadiane our first Wolof king had a Tukuloor mother, yet he also had a Fulani wife named Oufa and their son became the ancestor of the Fulani aristocracy in Jolof kingdom. Ndiadiane Wolof wifes bore the Wolof kings. In Jolof Wolof and Fula came from one ancestor Ndiadiane who was mixed race. We are brothers, and nobody can separate brothers.

well Fulas of Guinea tend to consider Senegal as their second homeland. When he is frustrated and sick of GUINEA, first destination is Senegal. Even the Almamys of Futa Jallon do it. And today Cellou Dalein , the leader of the Guinea opposition is there half of the time. So much so that other Guineans accuse him of investing his wealth in Senegal.
I love Senegal. Their women have a reputation for knowing how to take care of someone.

thanks for sharing the song. Penda must have been beautiful , not just from the outside, to have this song
dedicated to her.

Takamba: The thing is we (Wolofs) are the majority, 46% of the population. We had the greatest kingdoms, our music is the best, we dress better and our food is the best! We poppin

That's why in Sereer villages they prefer cooking thieb or wolof couscous instead of their sereer couscous. In Fulani village people who can afford it eat Wolof rice, it's so much better than latchiri haako ahaha! We the best!

there we go, it's like seneweb.com. Mbalax which is pretty much what Senegalese music is, has Serer origins. As for the kingdoms, I think it's debatable. Let's start with Takrur which flourished at the same time as the Empire of Ghana and gave its name to pretty every single west African going to Arab lands. The Imamate of Futa Toro was one of the most well organized and disciplined in the history of this continent. And it is truly a blueprint for a future Islamic state if there is one to rise on this part of the continent.
Faidherbe had much praise for the organizing skills of the Fulbe.
I love Wolofs, I ain't got no problem with them. But they should be comfortable with others speaking a different language. Just because Mande, Diola and Serer willingly accept Wolof and let go of theirs doesn't mean Fulbe have to do it.

Takamba: Yes I am.

nanga def ?

Takamba: That term sha!

Just wondering are you Senegalese?