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Onething this whole debate has not touched on is this obvious question of integration into the wider society of a skilled work force who no doubt will have innate feelings that they are only be wanted for thier skills to cover up the shortfall with the end result being a complete disconnect from the UK society.

A vast majority of these skilled migrant -more than ever before- will live up the name given to them, trying to take as much as they can from the society and giving very little in return 'cos of the feeling that they have little or no stake in the country anyway.

@debosky,
you keep mentioning that there are other routes to settlements can I ask you to list them out? I am sure you would soon figure out that those routes will involve having something british attach before one can qualify.

Lastly, since these migrants will most likely be expected to live after 5years, will that mean they would pay less income tax, wouldn't be mandated to enroll unto state pension both basic and second tier and thier NI would be based on an Upper Limit lower than that of a british citizen? I guess not in a million years will this happen!

debosky:
The automatic link is being managed to make it more selective - occupations deemed critical or with shortages will still have the linkage.

Besides, even with immigrants looking out for self interest, there are a multitude of other factors that still make the UK an attractive destination - large immigrant populations is one. With all the restrictions and limitations being introduced, the number of applications have not reduced as yet which may indicate that immigrants are still willing to put up with the changing rules.

I also do not see any of those territories you mentioned relaxing their immigration policies - there appears to be some form of tightening across the board.

I consider it unlikely that the UK will suffer from this policy - there are many exceptions that the best skilled workers will likely fall into e.g. people earning over £150,000 (high flying bankers and the like) will not be subject to the new restrictions.

I like your optimism, much like that of a tory activist drinking the liberal pint!

Get real!, This and other immigration policies of the tory is not just sending skilled workers away but also jobs! Major companies are increasingly setting or expanding thier workload overseas thanks to government making it more expensive for companies to recruit or bring skilled workers over and the overall impact would be most felt by the bespoke companies whose jobs the big companies will also be sending overseas.
Another serious issue the government hasnt taken serious is the fact that the fewer the pool of skilled workers available, the stiffer the competition and you know what follows -ASTRONOMICAL WAGE INCREASE! Go check those jobs that are on the shortage skilled list and see how inflated the entry salary for a graduate is. That should give you a sense of what the tory drive 'em all immigration policy might end up giving to the country in the shorttime!

It is onething to have a designed route to bring in the brightest and the best but it is another for those bright minds to see the country as a place for long term career prospect.

The US has one of the highly controlled process for skilled workers but they reward the skilled worker with options that make them think thier long term career prospect would be served in the US.

Again, it is UK and it belongs to the Brits so they can do whatever they so wish. If the country falls apart, the skilled workers will take stroll to other more welcoming countries!

I know Oshiomhole will not descend to the level of T.A,Orji as the intellectuall and visionary gap between them is like the distance between the heavens and the earth.Hence, I hadly can see Edo State sacking any Abian in the Edo State civil service.

In any case, what the Abia state government has done is a disgrace!

Isiri:
@ omo tie,am waiting 4 your reply.thanks

check your e-mail, sent the letter as attachment in word document 2007 version.

Ta!

Isiri:
@ omo tie,am waiting 4 your reply.thanks

Apology, I miised your previous post. I will forward the letter before end of today.

As for your friend, He would have to use travel/holiday tour agents as most states in Europe with the exception of the UK make it very difficult getting tourist visas unless you have previous visas issued you before in any other category.Also thier requirements especially the one bothering on insurance put people off.

Chabby73:
Ok, Thank you. Hopefully somebody will have specific knowledge in this area. My brother's college have suggested that this is a possible line to take.
Many thanks!

Article 8 of the ECHR is very much unlikely to be helpful unless your brother can show that since entering the UK, He has "engaged" himself here meaning, his life will be so adversely affected by any decision to remove him because of maybe a family tie, children, loved one, own a house or business, etc.

If your brother is in his final years of study and about to conclude, then Article 8 might work for him. To a very large extent, this depends on severity of the violation, i.e, how many hours extra was he working and was He doing so before the change in regulations and if the AIT judge or the Upper Tribunal as it is called these days is pro-government.

Let me also say that the current drive by the Tory government to esponge the ECHR vis a viz Article 8 from the statue books does not help much.

My recommendation: Go get a seasoned immigration Solicitor that can poke holes in the action leading to the cancellation of the visas by the UKBA. I seriously doubt Article 8 alone will win you this case.

As justwise mentioned previously, be prepared for a long appeal especially if the determination decision in your brothers favour is on Article 8 as the home office will vigorously pursue its upturn in the Upper Tribunal for obvious reasons.

What you can also do is go online, research for previous AIT determinations bothering/similar to your brothers case.

This case in my opinion can be won on two grounds;
1.Technicalities
2.Your brother academic performance and the course he is studying if it is available in Nigeria or not.

Hence you really need to get an Immigration solicitor preferably a Barrister!

I really wish you the best of luck and I hope your brother succeeds!

Johndoe100:
Good intentions, but Lagos Assembly has no business here.

FYI, Lagos state HOA is not a paddy paddy amala forum.

That Airtel operates mainly from Lagos and Abuja with major investment in those states means the house of assembly of Lagos can surmmon Airtel or subject Airtel to scrutiny for any arbitrary actions the company may have engaged in. If Airtel fail to cooperate, then the assembly can pass a resolution for the executive to seal up ALL Airtel's offices in Lagos and also ban the sales of Airtel's good and services in Lagos State! -The state house of assembly have the power through the law to surmmon companies operating with the state should they be found wanting in the eyes of the lawmakers-

I think the lawmakers have taken the right step and the heat should be turned on Airtel's management by every legal means available. Enough is Enough!

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/business/aviation/20964-why-arik-air-is-suspending-abuja-london-heathrow-route.html

For all those who may have plans to travel with Arik on the Abuja - London route should please take note.

The Chairman of Arik Air, Sir JIA Arumemi-Ikhide, in this interview, speaks on a wide range of issues, including the airlines decision to temporarily halt its operations on the Abuja-London, Heathrow, route. Excerpts:

Arik Air has decided to discontinue to its Abuja-London service, why was this decision taken?



The decision has been taken to suspend and review future operations between the Federal Capital, Abuja and the UK. This is due to a protracted issue over the 2008 Bilateral Air Services Agreement (BASA) between the UK and Nigeria, and the discrepancy over access to the allocated frequencies. Under the BASA agreement of 2008, UK carriers were granted a total of 21 frequencies into Nigeria. Nigerian carriers were afforded a reciprocal 21 frequencies into London, Heathrow.



Arik Air operates 12 of the agreed 21 reciprocal frequencies in the UK and Nigeria. Of these frequencies, seven are operated through slots secured under the primary rights of the BASA agreement. However, due to the alleged insufficiency of Heathrow slots, Arik’s five Abuja frequencies have to date been operated via slots secured though separate commercial arrangements outside the auspices of the BASA agreement.



The nine remaining frequencies afforded to Nigeria under the UK/ Nigeria BASA agreement, are currently unutilised whilst their counterparts presently utilise their full complement of 21 frequencies into Nigeria and have unfettered access to the necessary landing/ departure slots made available by Nigeria’s honouring of the BASA agreement. The Federal Government of Nigeria is entering into discussions with the British authorities to regularise the inconsistency. Arik supports and welcomes the dialogue between the venerated authorities.



When will operations cease and is this going to be permanent?



Ahead of the winter schedule, which commences on October 31, we will suspend the five times weekly flight between Abuja-Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport and London Heathrow, Terminal 4. The last flight to operate on the route will be on October 28. All passengers booked after this date on the route will be offered a full refund or can be rebooked via Lagos with onward internal connections to Abuja. We are doing our utmost to ensure that all our customers are protected and to minimise any inconvenience that this discontinuation may have on them.



This is very simply a suspension. Arik Air will review the route viability at a more appropriate time. Once the issues outlined above have been satisfactorily resolved, we will begin to assess operations again and in line with our long-term business plan . However, there are many other determining factors such as the very high operating and infrastructure costs at London, Heathrow. From a commercial objective, we need to take into account the profitability of this route to the airline. We serviced a much needed connection since November 29, 2009, but it has not fully reflected our expectations and that has been taken into consideration as well.



Are there plans for the aircraft that was used on the route?



The B737-800 aircraft that operates the Abuja-London-Heathrow route, will be redeployed in the interim, to support the airline’s regional expansion in Q4 of 2011 and Q1 of 2012. In order to meet the demand of flying to the new destinations, the airline has decided to re-focus its long-haul commitments in order to support route development in Africa. The short and medium-haul aircraft are now dedicated to intra-regional utilization, whilst the flagship A340-500, will continue to serve the New York and London, Heathrow routes from Lagos, thereby protecting key global destinations connection with Lagos. Arik’s range of aircraft, include a mixture of Airbus, Boeing and Bombardier models with the New Generation Boeing B737 offering an efficient and modern product, in markets where there will be high demand for it.



Arik operates a fleet of 23 short and medium-haul aircraft across a network of 21 domestic and five West African destinations. The airline has just revised its domestic schedule at the start of September to support the next phase of growth. The new transfer facility through its hubs in Lagos and Abuja, is also expected to be ready on-line, offering greater connectivity, choice and convenience for international passengers from the USA, UK and South Africa.



Does Arik intend to launch to any new destinations this year?



Following the launch of two new domestic routes in August and September- (Ibadan and Asaba), we have decided to consolidate our regional position with the commencement of scheduled operations from our hub in Lagos to Luanda (Angola), Douala (Cameroon), Ouagadougou (Burkina Faso), Bamako (Mali) and Kinshasa (DR Congo), as well as developing the West and Central African network. Arik is also set to begin operations to the Middle East by the end of 2011. The new regional destinations are set to enter the growing network at the start of Q4. Besides the new routes, we will also re-commence operations to Cotonou (Benin) bringing our international profile to 14 destinations, a very impressive tally given that we are just coming in to our fifth full year of operations.



Why is there such a strategic focus on the region compared to international points?



We are implementing the next phase of the airline’s long-term strategy. From the outset, it was a composite strategy consisting of developing domestically, connecting regional and then enhancing the international network.



When we launched five years ago, the aim was compete network coverage of the country. Having just launched to Asaba and Ibadan, I can confidently say that objective has been achieved with regards to phase One. Our next step is the focus on West and Central Africa, particularly the West Coast. This is a region with poor accessibility and in need of more service. There is a high demand globally, but in particular, from the Middle East and Asia.



For reliable and safe transport through the region, Arik Air is well-positioned to provide an efficient and convenient air and land transport links connecting West and Central Sub-Sahran Africa. Air service to these destinations have been sorely deficient up to this point, yet it is a region rich in resources. There has not been the requisite development in infrastructure historically to advance aviation, but I believe this is changing and countries are maturing. This will also come with assistance from private enterprises, such as Arik Air, that can provide a regular network to transport business, workers and traders, among others,



We co-join key financial destinations on three continents - New York, London and Johannesburg and will soon connect new points in the Middle East and beyond to Lagos. Offering a network programme in the West is attractive also to other airline’s in these countries who would like access to this network, so we have already started working on a number of code-shares.

This news came out few weeks back!And just wait in no longer time another Historian will claim 'the blacks' brought corruption to the UK

@jubi,
Please do not start! please do not compare graduates from Nigeria with those who schooled in the UK. No offense! When  I was doing my post graduate some years ago, I was ashamed when I met fellow Nigerians who came over to do thier Masters' degree could not even operate a computer and another did not how to use online tools to access research journal articles.

I have always said it.Any Nigerian who decides to go study in a college in the UK is wasting his/her time and money. UK colleges are not more worth polytechnics in Nigeria.

@Beaf,
I think you'r worse than Ibori! You pedal falsehood and defend criminal with such zeal the likes of Ibori,Uduaghan can only dream off.

As a ND myself, I know your likes are so many in the region especially in your 'darkness ridden' state of Delta. Hence I am not surprise that you can come online and sing the praise of a 'prototype' governor.

Go and check the oil revenue accruing to Delta and Akwa-Ibom - almost in the same bracket- but can you compare Akwa-Ibom to Delta infrastructure wise?

A governor that chose to power ALL the street lights in the state using generators with his wife the disesle contractor, you sure know that governor is an innate crook!

Seriously,I am still trying to figure out how this will reduce the immigration numbers to the UK.

Rather all it does is make UK unattractive to Skilled Work force meaning it will cost the UK in loss taxes as job will be shipped out! This is already happening in the engineering sectors and soon the financial services will follow.

So far the immigration policies they have implemented have yielded little or no result.

What I know is certain is highly skilled group who are extremely mobile will seek the nearest heaven where thier interest will be protected and the big companies no doubt will also follow.

But the sad reality is the UK will be severely damaged that it will take a decade to fix it up.

Beaf:
Ask ACN how to forge. It is disgusting.

Just as it is disgusting see how shallow your reasoning is that a cheque openly admitted to as haven been issued by the DSG under your rogue governor brother "aka the short unwise evil" you still claim to be forgery!

plain stupid it's called!

@debosky,
I am sorry but most of your arguement thrust is not in tandem with reality!

Did it occur to you that unlike in the past tory conferences, before, during and after the last conference (last week) tory activist did not go round the radio and tvs shouting immigration and Europe? Rather thier swan song was ".Cameron: it's the economy, stupid"

The tory lied to the UK citizens that thier job is no more 'cos of immigrants, unknown to many, they were been lied to and lo and behold, almost two years after the tory took over with obnoxious immigration control, they still do not have jobs.

When the Migration Advisory Committee interviewed Rolls Royce and Airbus, thier feedback was simple: "they 'r jobs but the UK work force skills do not match the jobs available", Rolls Royce went further to say they have two job roles they have been advertizing for 11 straight months but unlike before when they applications from places outside the EU, they got none and the four applications they received from UK citizens earned two an interview slot but during the interview process they didnot get pass the first stage"

Both Airbus UK and Rolls Royce have decided to increase the capacity of thier 'center of excellence' based in the US, Russia, Brazil,Spain,China as they claimed the UK authorities immigration policy is affecting thier ability to bring people to the UK. Surely, it is the UK economy that is loosing out both in taxes and skills enhancement!

The issue of right to settlement by skilled workers has been looked into by the MAC and thier conclusion was the government should leave the route as it is as there is not sufficient evidence from thier analysis that closing the route will curb the immigration numbers.

In a nut shell, I do not see how this policy will help drive down immigration numbers. The bottomline is the government is confused, lack the know-how on the way forward with the economy and virtually ALL her policies todate from police service reforms, to civil service pension reforms, to health care (NHS) reforms, Schools building project reforms, Banking sector reforms have brought chaos, uncertainty, lack of purpose to these sctors of the economy!

Beaf:
Brilliant observation!
Don't mind NL's forgers, 419's and "Toronto" certificate holders. The shameless people will always lie, forge and defraud. Its in their blood.

[size=14pt]Forgery[/size]
www.nairaland.com/attachments/540582_cheque_jpg99891231a1917ca4b9f62776dae03b6b

So the cheque was stamped before it was written? What bank would accept that rubbish? NLers, you see how God de catch liars?

shameless weetle, running after the shaff as usual. Your rogue PDP governor despite the billions accruing to his state is still commission left over make-shift projects by Ibori!

You should bury your head in shame and stop flooding NL with osun matters! Go remove the iroko in your and Delta governor's eyes before attempting to remove to broom stick in the eyes of osun state governor.

utterly shameless!

http://sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/oct/04/national-04-10-2011-0011.html

For those who care, the link above is the news article where Airtel has responded to the news making the round that it has sacked 3,000 of her call center employees due to wage disptue limbo.

If the reasons as deduced by the management is the true position, then I think Airtel may not be the one to blame.

However,increasingly, it appears (going by issues of Labour disputes in Nigeria recently especially in private sectors) Nigerian workers seems not to understand that getting employed in today labour market goes beyond your pay package and also involves some subtleties and dynamics.

Would the call center staff sub-contracted by Airtel claimed not to be aware of the termination of thier contracts (on the 30th of September 2011) with Airtel's Business Processing Organisations as at the time the the Zain was taken over by Airtel?

lagerwhenindoubt:
Not to beat a dead horse any further. It beats my imagination to think that Government Officers responsible for such a scheme are not mindful of the value in planning properly as you have proposed. They have learned people up there and i presume the rank and file are just as learned not to miss out on the logic of your statements, but here we are 3 National ID exercises afterwards, 2 Census and 2 Election collation exercises. NOTHING!

Honestly,I was thinking along the line of GEJ's promise to "do things differently and better" hence I would have thought his proposal should have the boldness and tenacity to leap frog previous exercises and be more futuristic in design and implementation.

What has the size of a country got to do with the technical, financial and managerial prowess of a cooperate entity?

If the zambian based energy has what it takes to engage in sound business in Nigeria, then let them bid and if successful, they should proceed to take over the distribution firms.

So long as they give Nigeria power at a reasonable cost, then I am up for it but if it is one of those capitalist ventures front companies, they really should stay clear of Nigeria.

As much as I applaud Akpabio for the development initiative, I have the inkling that this development drive is unsustainable given that much of the revenue utilized for the development comes from oil proceeds. With the oil wells and costal lines thought to have belonged to Akwa-Ibom now being reclaimed by Cross-Rivers and Rivers States, like some economic analyst have said not too long ago, Akwa-Ibom would shoot itself in the foot.

More worrying is the fact that the state IGR rank below states like Edo and Ogun and I am of the opinion that it is not enough for governments today in Nigeria to build roads, bridges, etcas they must go a step further to ensure the development is sustainable by strengthening thier financial based through well orchestrasted IGR.

In all, kudos to Akwa-Ibom and the Akpabio government.

To add further, why can't the government plan this national ID card side by side a Social Security programme implementable in 3-phases over a given period of 6years? For example,

Phase-1:Develop a cross frame-work and implementation strategy for National ID and Social Security bring ALL the government agencies on board

Phase-2:Implement a dummy trial in 2 states in each of the six geo-political zones.States not benefitting at this dummy trial stage would have thier share of the SS funding invested in a short term government bond for quick returns or money banked with the CBN, invested in a sensible way and the profit realized can be used for more infrstructural development.

Phase 3:Evolve a full nation-wide roll out while making amends using legislation of the loop holes (if any)observed in the trial phase.

I find it so odd that that a National ID registration is about to be undertaken and no mention of social security scheme by the FG. By the way social security goes beyong handing out "goverment cheese" and it also involves community policing, social housing development, etc.

lagerwhenindoubt:
I know you kept your wits about you during the recent elections 2011 - Have you asked yourself why INEC will engage the collation of biometric data and proceed to perform manual balloting during the elections, are finger-print data not used for electronic voting that would have prevented all these accusations and counter-accusations about election-rigging and ballot-stuffing. This Fresh Air has been smelling for soo long that we have gotten used to it. The whole INEC Registration process and the proceeds spent is a complete Fraud on the intelligence of Nigerians

Observation: INEC could not have engaged the use of electronic voting as the 2010 Electoral Act as amended by the 6th NASS did not make provision for such despite Jega's convincing presentation to both the senate and house of representation committees on INEC on the very possibilities and potentials of engaging electronic voting in the exercise. The reasons given by the then NASS were mainly poor road network, insufficient and unstable power and fear of the unknow such as softwars malfunction etc.

Be that as it may, I still hold strongly the believe that this National ID can registration scheme is another waste!
Even the UK with all her wealth in her proposal to introduce and ID for her nationals, even though the present tory government has scrapped it, thier strategy was to use the existing database they currently have to an extent, with the hope of capturing more as the project grows to maturity.

Beaf:
Didn't you see the number of kids that voted in the North? Some as young as 6? Something failed in the areas where illiteracy could be taken advantage of; its better to try the process again with that hindsight, let INEC use the freshly gathered data instead.

I must say your arguement as posited is very unconvincing to say the least

Are you indirectly admitting that INEC's whooping N89bn biometric voters registration was a charade in itself?

If I can recall vividly, were we not told that one of the huge benefit of INEC expending such a huge sums of money on biometric voters registration was a generation of a National Database that could be used by national security agencies, civil service commission for vetting during recruitment, etc.

Again,I thought Jega told us that the INEC 'cleaned' out the biometric database for inconsistencies, hence the database should have some degree of reliability.

The questions I need answers on is;

What other information will be captured by this new registration exercise that wasn't captured in the INEC and NCC registrations?

Why didn't the government during the project planning phase of the INEC biometric registration envisage its usage for a National ID card scheme while using the NCC registration as a follow-on to firm up the authencity of the biometrics?

Lastly, why is the proposed/approved ID card registration costing N36bn while INEC voters registration was a whooping N89bn? Further the NCC SIM registration costing a little above N6bn? Interesting, these three biometric data capture exercise targeted or hoping to capture almost same numbers of Nigerians or legally abiding residents in Nigeria.

Just wondering, each time I listen to the FG talk about Economic development the next phrase would be "foriegn investors" and I always keep asking myself this question:
Don't we have Nigerian investors that can drive Nigeria's economic growth and development. I mean, Nigeria as a Nation boast of millionaires in USD whether stolen from public purse or not, is there no way the Nigerian nation can leverage on these millionaires to drive her economic growth and development?

Must we continue to realy on foriegn investors who in my opinion in the current volatile international markets only want to invest in quick yield business ventures of which Nigeria reallydoesn't belong to that class of market in my opinion.

Only last week, national dailies in Nigeria were awashed with the story of the decision reached by the Federal Executive Council (FEC)-headed by President Goodluck Jonathan- to approve the whooping sum of N36bn for a National Identity Card. On reading the news report, I asked myself this question:

If INEC truly captured the biometric data of eligible Nigerians of voting age amounting to 73million Nigerians during the last voters registration exercise, is the supposedly available INEC biometric data base not sufficient for the FG to generate a National Identity card? Or what other information is required to be captured in a Nation Identity Card other than what INEC captured during the voters registration?

This, no doubt will save Nigeria wastage of resources and further, the FG government can in way of policy encourage more Nigerians to get registered with INEC by ensuring that only those registered voters also get the national ID card.

Really, why the need for another biometric data capture? In addition, the  SIM card registration exercise has just been concluded nation- which was also a biometric registration, with the information requested similar to that also requested during the INEC voters registration- by harmonizing these two HUGE biometric databases, will the FG not save Nigeria the much needed money by using these existing biometric databases instead of embacking on a
new venture?

Fellow forumites,if you have a contrary opinion please do air it, as I am almost on the verge of calling this new ID card registration exercise another epic fraud!

dalebutt1:
Australia followed similar route as UK and the result was mass exodus of health philippino workers to US, and other Asian economies and Australia paid dearly for it as thier health care deteriorated faster than they could imagine.

I dont see this happening in the UK anytime soon. as it stands there are more people available for almost any kind of position been advertised on the Job Market. the goverment needs to balance this up thus this new law. I wouldnt live in the UK as it stands there are more eu countries creating more jobs even in this hardship but its nt all rosy in the EU if the citizens are paying greatly due to cuts why cant the foreigner the truth just hurts to accept

You really do not get it! Highly Skilled jobs are not B&Q, ASDA retail jobs, okay. I will give you an example. Recently, Airbus UK had to bring in two immigrants who are the very few known experts in the world that can under take aircraft wing lightening test and certification!
FACT: The UK lack the highly Skilled work force that are British who can undertake the work load currently and it will take an average of 5-6 years to get the UK work force upto scratch skills wise.

The tory government is engaging in self deceit in paying blind eye to the reality on ground. The global labour work force is now highly dynamic and Highly skilled professional move in the direction of two things:Favourable pay with good taxes and an open and friendly immigration policy.

I think there is no use debating with FACTS, the MAC report 2011 says it all.

dalebutt1:

I think comparing Denmark to the UK is over the top really. How many multinationals are based in Denmark?

Even, the language barrier alone discorages Highly Skilled Professionals from taking up jobs in Denmark and if I happen to second in Denmark, really would request for posting in less than 2years!

well I though you would check this before posting, U heard about the green card scheme in denmark who do you think take up the jobs in these schemes? definately nt the samoans and fijians. 90% of the danes speak English, english is been thought as a 2nd language denmark. BTW there are lots of nigerians in france and germany language has never been a real factor for migration. you say this because your are unwilling to learn a new language. I have a friend that is completely illiterate in terms of education and lived in Norway withing years he was speaking fluent Norsk .  so i think you are wrong on that one. so what about ireland then? English speaking isnt yet i tell you dont think about i they have one of the strictiest immigration law ever the UK still stands out for me. so am nt all surprised they are changing

Do yourself a favour, do a research on international recruitment agency and see if Denmark ranks amongest the destination of choice for employees and reasons why they aren't.

During a programme on BBC Radio 5 live Victoria Derbyshire 9am phone in sometime ago on issue of employment in countries like Denmark, several of the callers which included recruiters mentioned Language barrier as the biggest reason why very few Brits emigrate to these places despite thier proximity to England compared to places like Australia.

Again I ask you, how many multi-national in aerospace,health,can you mention are based in Denmark?

Outstrip:
Don't waste your pity. When did Oshiomolhe give out the countract? Was it ot in february. How much work has been done. Everything still looks the same. It's been almost a year since the so called work started. Nothing to show. Please stop talking about those doggone ACs. It is starting to irritate me

Seriously, I think you have no idea what a Storm water project is all about for you to have expected all the works to be completed by now for a contract awarded this year.

Water routing, Ground Survey leveling alone would gulp 6months if not more. Do you really know how far Ogba river is from Uselu? Mind you, ALL the major roads along the storm water drainage/culvert path will have proper provisions for evacuation and this require care ON THE FIELD WORK! It is easier to use 'contours' and RF 'levelings' to carry out design on paper but a completely different ball game actualizing it on the field!

Again, flooding in Uselu is caused largely by residents building on the 'natural right of way' of the flood path, and the use of drainages as refuse dump by residents. Uselu and environs have open drainages built by previous governments but the people living there keep dumping refuse inside.

What baffles me is when the other governors were using imported inter-locking stones from Canada to tarr Igun Street,dregding Ikpoba river for over N20million most of you were singing his praise!

dalebutt1:
@ Omo Tier1. as much as i would love to agree with your credible comment. I would also like to ask you this if is were to be the other way round that is uk to be 9ja you wouldnt be smilling would you. lets face it 62 million for uk is much. Australia stood at 30 sumtin million, Canada is the second largest country in the would it stood her 32 Millions. and creates even more jobs than the UK at the moment. like i said i am not applauding the proposed plan but its a fact too crowded for me and many UK citizens would say such

The tory government is creating false alarm that the UK is over crowded. By UN nations definination,UK is by no means near over crowded.

Lets face it, UK 62million population includes Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, England, and a host of other islands like new jersey. At the last count,Scotland,Wales and NI saw diminishing return in terms of population growth and even scotland is getting worried by the number of ghost towns now emerging.

Again, even if the government wants to reduce the immigration numbers, obviously, hunting down 'wealth creators' is the wrong approach. A number of the immigration policy the tory have immplemented would only begin to have effect 2015 above, as must immigrants in the UK already have permits that would out live the tory parliament and needless, Skilled Workers these days are highly mobile and unfavourable immigration policy will mean mass exodus and it is already happening beneath the carpets in the UK. Ask any job agent how lucky they have been getting highly skilled professional for thier advertized job role since Jan 2011! Australia followed similar route as UK and the result was mass exodus of health philippino workers to US, and other Asian economies and Australia paid dearly for it as thier health care deteriorated faster than they could imagine.

I think comparing Denmark to the UK is over the top really. How many multinationals are based in Denmark?

Even, the language barrier alone discorages Highly Skilled Professionals from taking up jobs in Denmark and if I happen to second in Denmark, really would request for posting in less than 2years!

Some how D.C led government appears again and again to have ignored the FACTS and is hell bent on making sure the tens of hundred thousand net immigration number they lied to the public about is achieved at all cost, even to the detriment of the citizenry just 'cos they want to hold unto power.

Thier proposal to remove the link b/w permanent residency and work permit and the right to family dependency on work permit holders will only affect the UK government and her people.

Do the tory government think they are living in bronze age? If anything, the recent report by the MAC clearly show that companies based in the UK are NOT prepared to take more kicking from the UK government as they will continue to ship jobs out of the country enmass!

Again, I ask, will this stop people from crossing from France to the UK through the channel?

UK has failed to grow since the tory took over and more businesses are posting grim outlook on thier forcast.Tory government is busy chasing shadows on immigration while the economy continue to sink!

To those who say the UK is full, how full is 1.2million brits living and working in Spain?

In addition to ^^^Historical ties,family unions,and easy of integration into those societies.

Always sad to hear someones visas has been cancelled by an immigration officer.

I think alot of the students are not aware that with the new visa regime, schools,colleges,university are now required to provide regular updates on the international students they sponsor. This the schools,colleges and university do by using thier lecturers and fellow british students to spy on international students. I have it on good information and there has been issues whether this should be tested in the court of law but as of today no case have been filed.

Outstrip:
enosa where was the "high standard drainage system" installed because uselu is still a river with just a little rain. I cannot imagine a better spot in Benin to install this new drainage system. It is shame that we embrace failure with so much conviction. He put ac units in Idia college and emotan grammar school. Are you kidding me. I myself can put ac units in those school why in the world would I pat a freaking governor on the back for put 2 or 3 ac units in two of benins most influencial public schools. It does not take much does it? You even make him sound like he is a failure. Also once again the beautification projects do not count. With all the nonsense that goes on in Benin right now it is laughable to applaud the governor for planting a few flowers.

I feel ever so sorry for you type! Let me ask you this: How many of the private schools in Benin where tuition fees that are as high as N50,000 per term have air conditioning units in the classroom?

Even at that, the governor is not doing that as cheap publicity rather, He is making an effort to set a standard of what Educational infrastructure in Edo State ought to look like!

So you really are in denial of the standard drainage that Oshiomhole's government has put in place on ALL the newly constructed roads upon which the walk ways sit? Wow, Nigerians!

As for the Uselu flooding, even though that road is FG road, Oshiomhole has gone a step further to use the state taxes to design a modern water storm layout that will channel floods from Uselu-Ugbowo axis down to Ogba river and this work is already on-going and they have started with the teachers house section.

As for the flooding of Benin City,Oshiomhole under two years, despite the then led PDP house of house refusing to back the idea, He was able to get the design and costing of Benin City water storm project out and we now have an idea of really how much it will cost to deflood Benin City, which by the way is a whooping N36bn.He did not stop there,I am aware He has already awarded the first phase of the project costing N6bn and the project will be in 6-phases. I think these are signs of a government that is out to better the lots of the people living in the state.

If only the previous government were able to conceptualize the idea of deflooding Benin and put in place a working design, that would have helped Oshimohole's government!

Like I said in my previous post, Oshiomhole no doubt has tried, but there is still alot to be done. In all, given the meagre resources at his disposal compared to say Delta state,I would give oshiomhole a pass mark.