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This match is now annoying because of the ref.. He is a disgrace to modern football...

Hehe...sothey have supporters union in Ghana just seen their display in the stand

Geee.. What did he blow for

It is obvious CV are the better side in this match. Shame they might be undone by that dubious refereeing No BS against Ghana but they have not arrived at the party with the right clothes!

CAF should burry their head in shame... Te tournament so far has been a farce! That was never a penalty

If Arsenal play draw today, then Wenger is gone... SACKED would be the word.

This AFCON officiating is disgracing Africa football big time!

That is not a penalty! It was shoulder to shoulder!

Nonybb: If u think i still have the chance of dating mukina2 like this post

Murkinafaso nah man oh! Yu want to be declared wanted by police

chosen04: And does the charade government of Tinubu via his godson Fashola seem sane to you?

I know your natural beef with tinubu and all that. But I also know too well that Lagos is a much more sophisticated state where people are quick to go to court over perceived government extortion. Hence in this case, the traders would have gone to court to stop the state government from closing down the market if their case was genuine.

I really will like the op to educate us on why the market was closed and why the people had to go pay that money if their case wasn't genuine.

Redoil: Boundry market ajegunle has being reopen after coughing out a sum of 75million naira to the state govt taskforce on market. Most of the market produce had gone rotten and traders are recounting thier loss which was very much.

With people like you who only care about their stomach dotting the landscape of nigeria in their thousands, we have a true struggle on our hands. Why not tell us what the traders did that necessitated the closure of the market by the state government? Do you any sane government will just wake up and close any market without any reasonable cause?

It is only in Nigeria you hear so much noise about multinational companies plan to, will, are going to, etc. elsewhere, you barely know of when they commence, you only get to hear that they have opened a new facility. I am tired of these stale news.

Government should do what is expected of her, I.e.v build quality roads, schools, hospital and give us electricity all year round. We do to want to be told stories of who is building what, just provide basic infrastructure and Nigerians will sort themselves out!

LastApostle: Peace Transport has on the average 5,000 buses according to their fleet numbers. That's about 5,000 drivers. Conductors and loaders double the number of drivers and management staffs too are scattered all over the federation. Now which aviation company command such staff strength?

Those 5000 buses can't buy one of the smallest of Arik fleet

manny4life: They are racking up 300? Hmm, do you have facts to back up this claim of yours? The last time I checked, orders hasn't reached 1/3rd of what you're claiming.

The 747 of the older models are being phased out because they're old. It still doesn't negate the fact that the 380 will have a free meal. That's why I said when 747I comes live, we shall measure levels of success s

The hub and spoke model works for some and doesn't work for some, but it not a definite "money maker" like you put it for airlines. After all, MOST airlines operating the hub model are operating on LOSES.

Yup, I am 100% sure of the A380 orders! The truth is for legacy carriers like BA, hub to hub is where they make their money because when you do the seat per mile cost, and all the add on they sell you, like charges for extra legroom, baggages, etc, you will see why they make more money on a hub to hub. But mor importantly, these legacy carriers get favourable treatment in their hubs by their local government e.g BA in Heathrow, Emirates in Dubai. Emirates is a very good example in that she flies hub to hub with all flight emanating from Dubai, that way she only pays local taxes which are way cheaper in Dubai than in London or New York.

ROSSIKE: Thank you. Folks should please ignore opposition ACN papers like Tribune. Has Tribune ever reported the recent improvement in power supply across the nation? Did they report it when it went up to 4,500 mw in December? No.

Only when it sounds negative enough to them, such as in this temporary fluctuation, they publish. Unpatriotic, worthless imbeciles.

Tribune is PDP nah

manny4life: Success meaning that they have resolved the issues going on with the 380. Just like the 787 is having issues at the moment and you think the 747 will flop, yes, when they reach a resolve on the issue, then we can talk. Unfortunately, air travel is gradually consolidating, like I asked you, what's the orders of the 380 compared to its withdrawals? Airbus soon found out that large oversize aircraft is not the way to go.

A380 orders are racking up to 300 already, and Airbus is expecting two to three significant orders from three other airliners, one I suspect will be Turkish Airline, one Chinese. FYI, Boeing has found that it has lost out on the VL aircraft market because the B747 are being faced out by most of the major airliners in Europe especially. Today's reality is that Hub to Hub is where Legacy carriers make their money and not point to point as they often get stiff competition from the low cost carriers. And for you to make any money on hub to hub, you need the likes of A330s and A380.

manny4life: Again, don't worry bout the orders, the 380 had similar issues, yet the 380 was a final success. The 747 will rise, yes issues will set them back, but won't stop them.

A380 is not yet a success, it has cost Airbus $30bn to date and is hoping to break even by 2015. Airbus needs to rake in about 359 orders or more to really break even with A380 sales. But the image value it gives to Airbus is enormous. Boeing is got nothing to respond with each time A380 shows a up in a party

CFCfan: That's not a surprise, because it will be cheaper for SW to buy an American plane than to order one from far-away Europe.

Not really, America government has this clause that says if you are an Airline and you buy America plan or you invest in the Aviation sector up to $1bn, you get access to cheap credits in America banks. That is what got Arik to order for Boeing Aircraft and why they can place orders for two B747-8I and option of B787.

Now that we have a final assembly coming up in mobile Alabama, right there in the USA, watch out for more Airbus planes in the USA

manny4life: Look, from the onset, the 787 was gonna be an issue due to the simple fact of it's component. Yes, 787 has setbacks and nothing else, but like I told you, give it few months down the road, things will be fine.

How is Airbus far ahead? With it's large A380 size or like you said the NEO's? Don't forget, Boeing already started out the technology on the NEO's before Airbus came onboard.

Do you know it has cost Boeing $10bn more in development than budgeted? Orders are not towering 1000 which is getting Boeing really concerned. But we know what they are hoping for, I.e. a repeat of the B747 wonder.. But it ain't goon happen this time.

manny4life: Huh?

You said they will give them a run for their money, I said not if it was subsidized by the govt. Please explain, I'm lost

Nigerians like good thing and when they see one they know it and are always willing to pay for it! Imagine two airliners with 20 new aircrafts with good customer services of measurable quality to any of the Star alliance, you will see Nigerians abandoning BA and Virgin because their prices on the Lagos-Heathrow route is not real, it is fixed! So any airliner that can break that price junk will send both airliners running with their tails between their legs. That was what Arik Air started doing before she allowed her customer service to mess up her image big time. Te last time I flew them to Lagos with their A340-500, it was full and people were still waiting because they over book the flight.

manny4life: But the 737 has been the most successful aircraft in the world na. Till date, the 737 family is the MOST USED aircraft. The 737 cheaper than the 320 is not because it's bad, it's simply and entry level for short haul and money making plane. Why do you think successful companies like SW and their rest have a lot in their fleet?

Hehe, no bro, the A320ceo by orders towers B737Ng, and the A320neo has sent B737max into her shadows... SW fly Boeing cos of politics.

manny4life: Please, I know you're not about to bring in the UPS accident. You know darn well that was a safety issue not an airplane issue...

Accept it or not, Boeing is better. You and I may never win this argument between Boeing and Airbus - which is better?

Hope you have read the latest today on that battery on B787? The battery seems okay but they are not sure if it is aircraft battery monitoring system that is triggering off the explosion. Oh... Airbus is miles ahead of Boeing now.... Have you flown the A380?

manny4life: Not if the airlines were subsidized "HEAVILY".

Not really, all people like airbus need is a banker with heavy portfolio to back your orders, which transform would have been able to do using NEXIM

manny4life: I love Boeing, always have... Airbus is good, but hey to me, Boeing is better.

The only Boeing aircraft I admire is B777-300ER. Airbus aircrafts are far better than Boeing. It is obvious otherwise Boeing won't be selling the B737 cheaper than A320.

CFCfan: Abi oh. All the talk of complete govt divestment from aviation, doesn't hold water. A developing country such as Nigeria needs some govt input in such a highly capital-intensive sector. UAE (Dubai and Abu Dhabi), Qatar, Singapore and some other countries, utilize some govt funds for their air trasnport sector.

Well that was where Obasanjo was heading with transcript, but He started it way too late! If it was in His first term, by now we would have had three airlines giving BA, KLM,Air France, Virgin, Delta a run for their money!

manny4life: It's no rocket science that you're an Airbus fan...

Hehe, at least they don't explode with smokey batteries that can roast corn flew one back from France this evening, landed like mash potatoe me no fit those brace brace with Boeing air rafts

NEROSKY: wetin concern us..... na peace mass transit n ifesinachi me dey use.....

Broaden your horizon, new article like these sometime help you see investment opportunities and business ideas that can light up your future.

OAM4J: They are not talking about the flooded Lagos-Abuja route. Read the article again

I just gave you an example of how quickly you recoup that money back on any high yielding route. Imagine if they fly two A320 from Lagos to London twice daily, surely they will be smiling to the bank with more cash at hand.

CFCfan: The company is only contributing it's own part to further the development of aviation in Nigeria. Other firms and individuals are welcome to make additional investments.

Very true. Imagine a nation where N4bn is budgeted for a house for First Lady, surely e government can pour $10bn into that sector and recover it back in 5years through taxes.

OAM4J: $150M?

Seriously how far can that go in aviation investments? That industry is not for small time bizness people.

It can go far! Imagine two A320s doing a 1hr30mins shuttle between Lagos and Abuja everyday... Dude within two years, you are sure of adding five more to your fleet!

Babaken: my people see where money de talk na. Where them de nana sorry dana and co

Sorry those monies belong to a Bank! If Nigeria banks were strong or if NEXIM bank had real purpose instead of funding tractors from China, this is the sort of deals they will be helping the like of Dana do with a commitment by the Airframer to build at least two MRO facility in the country.

CFCfan: The $150 million investment could be in the area of training pilots, engineers and other aviation professionals.
It's clearly stated in the article that the company has committed a whopping $7.8bn to the acquisition of aircraft.

I remember reading that article in Toronto last year about the $7.8bn orders and it appeared not all are firmed orders. But that is an investment that would get any bank inviting you over for a round table pally with some Argentina Melbeck