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I have always been against Igbo seeking presidency of Nigeria and looking at what is going on to GEJ, I am shocked there are still some Igbos that want to become president of Nigeria.

Either way, though I am against this, I do agree with majority of what the man said. Ngozi, Soludo and Utomi are the Igbo candidates I'll support especially Soludo.

Ji_sun_pack: its a pity that you're now accepting what most of us saw before 2011. Like I said before the Ohanaeze Ndigbo endorsement brouhaha that you don't display your cards easily or show your shallowness in politics.

You think Jonathan is stupid not to be able to differentiate those in his pocket and those needed to pleased before 2015? where is the second Niger bridge? where is the Onitsha port? where is the international airport? on the contrary he approved a contract of 1.4 billion dollars Lagos - Ibadan railway project, that figure is by far bigger than the whole projects to be done in entire south east. Building more federal roads in Lagos and entire south west.

secondly, he re-awarded Benin- ore- Lagos road, that road project is greater than the entire roads to be constructed in south east. East - west road is in total mess, Portharcourt - Aba road is a dead trap.

I laugh in 98% votes.

Have proof to support the above or is these one of una "never ending boasting without reality"

While am at it, what I am getting is that GEJ is the one improving Lagos so what happened ACN doing all this as many of una have claimed all over NL. SMH

You guys continue to shoot yourself in the foot whenever you want to boast of a non-reality BS.

oluface: Is it possible?

Is this a serious question or are you joking? I can't seem to tell.

You are not serious are you?

PAGAN 9JA:
Today then what ethnicity are most Sout Americans and why do so many white North americans Native ancestry do you think that Native population got decimated just by the above ways NO! you are right about famine, ddisease, etc., but the major factor was assimilation. The Tainos and Caribs are officially extinct. (except one small pocket of Caribs near Guatemala) All mestizo of bolivia, peru, have Quechua, Aymara blood. also many canadian french speakers whos fur-trader ancestors took wives among Natives.

SMH. If you believe this then who am I to tell you otherwise.

have you heard of that childrens story Pocahontas (based on real story) what happened?? this Native American princess had to change her name from Matoaka to rebecca rolfe, convert to christianity, wear european clothes, etc. then the eruopeans could use her as a tool to spread their culture through her into the Algoniquian Natives, thereby killing the ANtive culture. this is what can happen to Igbos if you start accepting whites, blacks, dogs, rats, treees, Chinese, etc., into the tribe. you hae survived so far, dont rui it. people who have such views shold be kicked out.


https://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/b9/58/b958422cd4b971945923978a7525011a.jpg

From the bolded: Seeing that the entire Nigeria and other African nation are already doing this despite very little westerners and african-american within their administration, I see no point. What I don't get it is how you believe African-Americans, a community that is equally against euro-centric of their community would arrive to Africa and try to Europeanize (if that is a word) it. Another thing I don't get is your hausa clan are completely Arabic now. Why do you care over something you believe would become the future of Igbo people as oppose to the said something that is happening right now to your clan. Last thing I don't get is reading from other members post of you, you aren't in Nigeria. You reside within their community yet you find something wrong with them claiming origin to Africans and if in the near future, decided to move to Africa. Isn't that hypocritical to the highest?

you dont get me! the incorporation of foreig elements ito the tribe can bring about extinction in the long run!

Seeing as the african-americans that discovered their Igbo origin aren't bringing in any new foreign elements within the community, infact they are copying and trying desperately to learn Igbo culture in an effort to replace their own (confirmation in the first picture and equally the guy few pages back that informed us all of his recently discovered Igbo origin) so I dare ask: what do you mean again?

and isnt this an example of support:



i have Igbos agree with my views in other threads and i hav got good acceptance of my ideology by Igbos, offline.

please dont change now! the very point of your argument was your claiming, anyone can become Igbo, if they live with , dress like, marry, help Igbos and all that. some of tyou fellows are making any tom-dic,k-harry as Igbo Chiefs and doing all such nonsese. at this rate , i predict extinct in a centuries time.

Yes kengis spoke against it. Look through the thread and equally the OP of the thread, do you see any other?

As for your information if the community in question wants to give every tom, dick and harry a chief title then they can do so.

Lastly, thank you for predicting Igbo extinction. Back to sender ten times fold. Anyway, seeing as Igbo population is increasing in an alarming rate, I don't forsee our extinction thus back to sender ten times fold.

killayut: This is not like we are discussing some random place. This is my place you are discussing. And you want me to take the nonsense you say about it. How many Ikwere activities have you seen in Port Harcourt and Diobu ? Goat head. where were the Ikweres when Ijaw dey gbam and dey well gangs controlled the area ? Is there any Ikwere member of any gang in Port Harcourt city ( Town ) ? You stay deep inside Oyigbo and rukpoku and talk about Port Harcourt when you are not found in PH. Menn check your brain.

Just because they let you live in their town DOES NOT make it your own. Provide ANYTHING, an article, book, anything to back up all your self made stories. We gave you a statement from the LGA, an article of a citizen within that area, a statement from lord lugard during the creation of PH, an article from air nigeria and a statement from an outside source. Different sources, different writers narrating the same thing yet you honestly believe stories that is made by you would fly against all that. Each article, each source either narrating what everyone that lived or been to PH knows, you end accuse it of propaganda, or create self made facts, shouting on top of your lungs in an effort to sell a fake story over true facts. What I find funny is how you think your propaganda will sell with so many history of it and the truth found all over the internet. Ijaw has gang, ijaw has mend. Who gives a f2k what criminal activity ijaw are doing in PH. In what rational part of your mind told you, listing gangs and fights in river is a way to prove ownership. What part of your cognition told you that? Either you are high or you have no shame and take pride in disgracing yourself and people. You are pathetic to lay claim on properties that does not belong to you and infact more pathetic to try and change the history just so to lay claim. Equally pathetic for accusing the ikwerre and igbo for stealing when it is obvious who is the desperate theif on here. As i said if the ijaws have your mindset then every community in River state should write a book or blog of their origin and publish it unless they would wake up one day to find all their properties stolen, history rewritten all because they happen to accept you all into their territory. To say I find what you are doing disgusting would be an understatement. Infact, i find it disgusting, pathetic and terrifying. There's is a high migration of your ppl to Asaba and not once have I thought wrongly of it but seeing this sh1t, maybe we should be worried. Who knows what other territory una will lay claim over. Thus, i continue to pray there are more hjatx, GEJ, ijaw girl and Asari in your clan than you. If not, may God have mercy on every non-ijaw community territory. Who would have thought the iteksiri were right all along. SMFH

killayut: abagworo is homeless am sure.. Bros.. You Igbos are losers. Leave Rivers state alone. AMAECHI has only 2 more yrs left and after his tenure the OGONIS will rule next.. LEAVE RIVERS STATE ALONE you AGBEKPO.

I don't know what it is you think you are reading but noone is after River state. All everyone is doing is correcting ignorant statement made by you and the ignorant claiming of other communities found in River State as part of Ijaw clan even after providing you evidence that says otherwise. I get increasing population, I get making up figures of the said population, what I don't get it stealing other people's land and holding onto it with all your might plus rewriting their history with false statement. It is just sad and pray everyday you and ijaw citizen are one out of a billion. I hope htjax, ijaw girl, asari, GEJ, etc is how majority Ijaw people act, if not, then I believe every community in River state and outside should write a book of their origin and publish it. Infact, tattoo it on their body unless one day, they'll wake up and find their entire territories stolen underneath their nose. This is just sad to watch. I, that was 11, when I left River State can tell you are making up stories of different communities, laying claim to other ethnicity properties, now imagine someone that lived all their life in river state and still residing in river state would think.
Just SMH!!!

Abagworo: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/04/rebisi-in-history/

ALTHOUGH there were varied positions on the matter, in the end the General Sani Abacha administration created Bayelsa out of Rivers State in 1996”

The circumstances behind my joining a delegation for the burial of His Royal Majesty, Sunday Nnanta Woluchem, the Epara Rebisi XI of Port Harcourt on Saturday, April 21, 2012 is encapsulated in the above quote taken from his burial programme.

As the author of his yet to be published biography, former Chief of General Staff, retired Commodore Okoh Ebitu Ukiwe, asked me to join his delegation to bury a royal father who, along with Ukiwe and others, played leading roles in the creation of today’s Rivers and Bayelsa states between 1993 and 1996.

When the civil war started in 1967 and Biafra lost control of Port Harcourt to the Federal forces, the newly created Rivers State was handed over to the Ijaw. Ijaw leaders continued to maintain that Rivers State, with Port Harcourt as its capital, was created for them as reward for ceding their coastal terrain to the Federal side, thus making the sea blockade of Biafra possible. The Ijaw groups claimed to constitute the majority and continued to dominate the state both during military and civilian dispensations. With time, however, the Igbo speaking people of the state, particularly the Ikwerre nationality, decided they wanted a state of their own where they would be able to assert their own political and economic interests.

This was what led to the quest for the creation of Port Harcourt State. However, the Ijaws felt if such a state was created they would become estranged in a city they have been part and parcel of since it was founded by the colonialists. In fact, they had even started portraying Port Harcourt as the capital of a future Ijaw state. Thus was born a great rivalry between the Ijaw-speaking and Igbo-speaking groups for the control of Rivers and between what was termed the “Okrika-Ijaw” and “Ikwerre-Igbo” over the “ownership” of Port Harcourt. The gruesome murder of Dr Obi Wali, the leader of the Ikwerre political front by yet-to-be ascertained assassins in 1992, owed to this tussle, which often led to street battles between Okrikans and Ikwerres.

Meanwhile, the late father of Nigeria’s nationalism, Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe, had discussed the best strategies for reducing the animosity between the Igbos and their Minority neighbours as well as dousing the ethnic tension between Ikwerres and their riverine co-indigenes of Rivers State. It was agreed that as the touted largest Minority group, the Ijaw needed a state of their own. But with their emotional attachment to Port Harcourt, how would Rivers State be split without creating a permanent ethnic war front in Nigeria’s premier oil city?

With the Ijaw groups obviously being favoured by the Northern-led Federal Government, Eze Woluchem, a lawyer who was installed paramount ruler of Port Harcourt in 1977 turned to Dr Azikiwe, appealing for him to support the aspirations of his Igbo kinsmen in the struggle. An ageing “Zik” referred the Eze’s delegation to Commodore Ukiwe, who had become Zik’s close political confidant. The Eze’s delegation of four, which included the late Chief Okogbule Wonodi and Chief Andrew Uchendu, met with Ukiwe in his office in Victoria Island.

Their proposal was that Port Harcourt State should only be for Igbo-speaking Rivers people, while the Ijaw-speaking part would be named New Rivers State. On the other hand, the Kalabaris did not want to be parted with Rivers State, neither did the Okrikas, and Ukiwe advised that it would be “unstrategic” to cut out Bonny, Opobo, Kalabari and Okrika, apart from the fact that the Head of State, General Abacha, who was pro-Ijaw, might be pushed not to create any new state at all.

Between Ukiwe and the Ikwerre delegation, and taking into account the expressed needs of others, the maps of the present Rivers State and Bayelsa State were drawn and presented to Abacha, who found it acceptable.

On October 1, 1996, General Abacha included Bayelsa as one of the six new states approved by the Provisional Ruling Council, PRC. The postulations put together by Ukiwe and the Rebisi’s delegates worked like magic. Today the Ijaws have a state of their own with a capital (Yenagoa) which is being styled the “Jerusalem of the Ijaw Nation”. The Igbo-speaking groups in Rivers State also have a state in which they constitute a comfortable majority and have led since 1999. The issue of “ownership” of Port Harcourt has also been (partially) resolved, as Governor Chibuike Amaechi has retrieved the Crown Lands being claimed by the Ikwerres and Okrikans into government custody.

In fact, he has pressed on with the establishment of New Port Harcourt in virgin land within Ikwerre heartland. The ethnic tension is still there somewhat, but it is no longer at the level of street battles and assassinations.

I don't know why you continue to educate Killayut, he's a lost cause. If you continue to provide someone articles and intelligent statement to support your stanch on the matter and he continue to argue blindly then leave it be. Like I'll say, statement made on NL would not automatically become a reality. It will still remain a figment of imagination.

As for Diobu origin,

The area that became Port Harcourt in 1913 was originally the farmlands of the Diobu village group of the Ikwerre, a subgroup of the Igbo people.

http://www.viewchange.org/topics/port-harcourt

The initial purpose of the port was to export the coal which geologist Albert Ernest Kitson had discovered in Enugu in 1909. The colonial government caused the people of Diobu to cede their land and by 1913 the building of a port-town was started. Other villages that were later absorbed into the city included Oroworukwo, Mkpogua and Rumuomasi; in the creeks to the south of the original port were the fishing camps and grounds of the Okrika-Ijaw group.

http://www.myairnigeria.com/en/ng/ABOUTUS/ANDestinations/PortHarcourt/tabid/295/language/en-US/Default.aspx

Anyway, thanks for the vanguard read above.
It explained alot.

hrhobi1: Lagos to Ibadan is about 45 minutes by road. So why the need for a train? is it to make the journey 15 minutes or what ? Why not Lagos to-Ogun-Ondo- Benin-Asaba- Onitsha- Enugu and to the north, which is economically viable to me. Just another waste of funds. IBADAN THAT OLD DIRTY CITY FULL OF RACISTS, IF YOU DON'T SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE YOU BE OUTCAST.

I had to correct this. Lagos to Asaba is a no no. No thank you. You and others can suggest a rail from Lagos to anywhere but pls leave Asaba out.

Thank you

One of nigeria's project. Rail nko? Knowing Nigeria, I'll believe it when i see it.

Reading this thread, hypocrites dey too much. The same people that are constantly condemning FG, GEJ and screaming ACN better and some sh1t are now all of a sudden not condemning FG. Infact, pulling the project as their own achievement. Hypocrites are too much on these forum. Next time someone opens a thread about something GEJ or FG did for their region, i expect at least during una insult, you'll give them props for this.

Anyway MASSOB should butt out, it a family matter and family business. Naturally, it is expected..marrying two wives always have an aftermath at the end. After all, it is a fight between the two sides of the family. Ojukwu's first family and his second family with Bianca.

Da infamous: you people always find something to say, have u people apologies for killing pregnant women and children and then send dead bodies to eastern Nigeria by train?genocides committed to ojukwu peoples still rises,and the evil men that committed the evil act are still here with us.Till you people as GOD and man for forgiveness everybody will be frustrated in this union and hatred will still be there is not going anywhere no matter how much you pretend....

Why do una pay attention to people that are always desperately and pathetically seeking una attention? Why? Either una have nothing better to do or you just like helping desperate ppl. Either way, it is a mystery sha

Donarozzi: We support the creation of Anioma State to be zoned to the SouthEast. The Anioma State should also incorporate all Igbo communities found in the Orhionmwon, Uhunmwode, Igueben, and Esan South-East local government areas of Edo state. These Igbo communities in Edo State include Oza, Ekpon/Ekpo, Igbanke/Igbo-Akiri, Iru, and Inyelen/Inyele, Igbogiri, Owa Iru, Owa Iru Uzo, Owa Ikeke, Owa Iguaza, Ute Oheze/Ohaeze, and more.

Anioma is the oldest State request in the history of Nigeria. Igbo people must unite and ensure that Anioma State is created.

Thank you sef. I am not sure if you are SE, if you are, it is nice seeing more SE advocating for it alongside anioma.

Let those who hate anioma state creation go jump off the nearest bridge and end their miserable life if it dey pain them that f2king much

ogugua88: Created for what? Anioma isn't getting enough of the national cake?

And what is ur business if anioma state was created? Is it your village? Are they taking land from your village? Do you have any say in what transpire within the region? Are they asking to feed them, clothe them, in anyway impact you, your region,etc? Abeg waka commot for road.

Every 1diot on the planet must speak even on sh1t that does not concern them. Mtchewww

I just threw up in my mouth.

Give me the gun and I shoot the bastard myself. Infact, give me a bat so I can beat sh1t out of him.

I disapprove any article or pictures where a Nigerian man be it criminal was beaten to death by a mob but men like this, they deserve those death. I hope this n1gga get beaten or shot. Either way, a devil like that deserve death.

killayut: Ikwere chairman of PH Lga. is he the councilor of ABULOMA, PORT HARCOURT TOWNSHIP, BORIKIRI ? Port Harcourt LGA is different from Port Harcourt city. Chimbiko is from Elekahia or NKPOGU and no Ijaw lays claim to those places and those places are not Port Harcourt but villages of there own . You are silly LOL. sO COS THE ph I hope you know Igbos even contested for LGA chairmanship in Lagos. If they had won you d use that to claim Igbos own Lagos. Nigeria is a country of turn by turn and any day an Ijaw man becomes Ph lga CHAIRMAN he d write what ever he wants about PH as well. ARGENTINIANS write nonsense about Falkland Island but the natives say they are English and they live there and not the ARGENTINES. You can claim Ph like you want but you do not opereate there so what is the sense ? THAT IS BOTTOM FOOLISHNESS.

This will be my last post to you cause It seems I am talking to someone that is as another person classified "mentally deranged". For your information I grew up in PH from age 8-11 so I don't know why you feel you have to tell me a self-made stories to make a point. So when push comes to shove, after every excuses had fallen short, limit your claiming while at the same time ignoring the area that spoke specifically what region and people constitute the city of PH in that same link that you've so long being trying to condemn.

All I am going to go is direct you to ezeagu post on this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/891977/how-did-ijaw-4th-largest/10#12200546

After which, you can bring in as much story and excuses as you want. I don't care.

ChinenyeN: Just stop mentioning Ngwa as if you know what you're talking about. If you want to "create facts", then create those facts using something else.

Dude, he like creating facts even if you provide him evidence that dispute those facts. He'll still continue with his own self made facts. Don't even bother, just bring out whatever it is written by your people to prove their origin, post it and move on. Let him twist, shout, scream and try to change the people history as if he knows it more so than them

killayut: Sickler, No one wrote about or discussed Ogba Egbema Ndoni here. And incase you do not know you should know that the Orashi river runs between the Joinkrama Akinima Ijaws and the Egbema at the opposite side. Now what makes you think Ijaws who naturally use the river for fishing and things never settled at the other side of the river bank ? Do you even know the relationship between the Ogba people and the Ijaws ? Read the history of the Nembes and KALABARIS proper to get an idea and find out why the Nembes and KALABARIS went to war over the control of the Orashi river. The vilage of ORUMA is the cradle of the Egbema Ijaws who migrated up north to settle among the Ogbas. Egbema in Ogba land was founded by Ijaws just as Ijaws founded NDOKI where Ngwa people migrated to live en mass. It all happened like how Oyigbo is happening today. Oyigbo was just a market named Obigbo market where Igbos brought their food to sell along the old aba road. The oldest village in that area is owned by Okrika and it is called Abi-ama. Why do'nt you ask your self why NDOKI land remained sparsely populated and was never known till now. That s cos there were no Igbo natives there. AFAM is an Ogoni farm land long long time ago while Okoloma was founded by Ibani traders and they are the biggest towns there But today Ngwa Igbos are flooding the place and buying land for farming which they claim now as their native land. Oyigbo grew the same way just as Egbema of Ogba land.

Dude STOP pushing your origin and history changing on communities that aren't YOURS and in no way claim origin with you all. I brought you THERE OFFICIAL website for a reason. They are not ijaw, they have no ijaw origin. Ijaw isn't their father. Read their origin from their own f2king mouth and STOP stealing and laying claim to other people's property.

killayut: What they wrote about PH is exactly what you Igbos have been writing about PH published in wiki. You can see how the writer of that shit also tried to claim every thing under greater Port Harcourt plan. Does it not tell you that the Port Harcourt as claimed BY THE WRITER was wrong . Was there any Ikwere man during when Okrika chiefs were signing the document covering the Borikiri land to the British ? If there was any what please tell us who he was. Was there even a recognized Ikwere clan there ? There was even no recognized Ikwere clan when the same British took Diobu to be a satellite town. This is cos there were no Ikwere natives there. All the people involved were Okrika chiefs and Bakana ( Kalabari ) Chiefs who stood as witness. You are such a goat.

You continue to display your ignorance with pride. Though i am not surprised, this is the uche jumbo indicient all over again. Despite giving you document by the ppl in question, instead to bow your head out and admit you have absolutely no idea what you speak off, no, instead you continue to follow your ignorance. SMH, it is sad and pathetic. Do you think the more you scream and the more insult you add into your post and the more angry you get that somehow your story will change from fallacy to truth. Btw: just incase, you didn't know Wikipedia gets all their information from actual website, mostly official website, the only offense of wikipedia is the fact that anyone could edit it thus it is not wiki influencing the official website but rather the other way around. Maybe next time you should pay attention to wikipedia website and notice the word "reference". I find the excuses hilarious. First it was the ikwerre chairman trying to rewrite history, now it is igbo telling the chairman what to write, what's next? He was kidnapped and forced to write it? Or someone did juju and change the wording on the site. I laugh tire. I'll continue to say this : lay claim to what belongs to you, leave other people stuff alone.

ijaw citizen: THAT IS THE PROPAGANDA OF THE IKWERRE MAN CURRENTLY OCCUPYING THE CHAIRMANSHIP OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AREA. ON THE CONTRARY, PH STARTED IN OKRIKA LAND AND SPREADED TO IKWERRI LAND. IT IS ON RECORD WITH EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP THAT PH WAS LEASED TO THE WHITEMEN BY THE AMANYANABO OF OKRIKA AND HIS CHIEFS ALONG SIDE WITNESSES FROM NEIGHBOURING KALABARI. PLS HELP ME TELL THE PH.LGA CHAIRMAN THAT THIS WRITE UP IS MAKING OKRIKA PEOPLE TO LAUGH IN IGBO!

Ahhhh so Ikwerre man is trying to rewrite history. I don hear am. So while doing this, the okirika within his administration let him put the re-write on the website representing the entire city without any fight. Mtcheeew. Story don come. Stop laying claim to other's property, that is all i have to say.

killayut: LOL. Igbo man Wikipedia published PORT HARCOURT. If only you know the number of times People have corrected that wiki jargon by one Igbo fool.. I rest my case. You inhabit a place and had no cemetery. Tell me where the EZE of Port harcourt then was buried ? Or better still tell me where the Igbo founders of Oguoocha were buried ? You Igbos are big fools I swear. what is the profit in publishing fake history of Port Harcourt when you are not even found there at this time. What a slowpoke. LOL.

Did you see Wikipedia on the link or did it say PORT HARCOURT LGA. And within the link it wrote ".ng.gov" which lets you know it was written by the local government of the community. The problem with you is after providing you OFFICIAL statement from the community or person in question, you still hold onto your ignorance.

Do and say what you want as long as it pleases you. we've gotten the real answer by the said community.

PAGAN 9JA:
YES LETS KEEP IT REAL! DONT YOUR THCKSKULL EVER LEARN FROM HISTORY!!! WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NATIVES WHO WERE ASSIMILATED WITH THE FOREIGNER DO THEY STILL EXIST THE TAINOS, CARIBS, ETC>

You constantly mentioning Native American and assimilation of foreigners without actually knowing what caused the death of these native american (whom be the way still exist today. Just so to let you know). A little history for your ignorance: Europeans were carrier of pathogens Native American's did not have immune over hence they died out from those pathogens. Secondly, another factor that caused destruction among Native Americans was the war between them and Europeans over their land. Therefore your stupid analogy have no factor in this. African-Americans are not rushing to Nigeria, to Igboland, and spreading whatever pathogens they carrier of in which Igbo's cannot protect themselves against. In addition, there is NO WAR between the two ethnicity which will cause the death of Igbo clan.
Next time read the history well enough before using it as a comparison.

SECONDLY I AM NOT MUSLIM SO BOKO HARAMS RESPONSIBILITY IS AS MUCH ON YOUR SHOULDE AS ON MINE. 3rd YOU ARE NO EZE NRI OR CHIEF AUTHORITY ON IGBO AFFAIRS! THERE ARE BLACK SHEEP, DELUDED AND TRAITORS IN ALL TRIBES/ AS LONG AS THE REST OF THE IGBOS SUPPORT ME, ALL IS WELL. AFRICAN AMERICAN ARE NOT IGBO. THEY ARE NOT EVEN TRIBAL SO JUST SHUT UP!

You accused African-Americans assimilation as a potential extinction of Igbo clan....a problem that is not even reality, nor show a slight glimpse it could become a reality....but I giving you an actual, real problem ( a reality), that are more likely to cause "extinction" than AA assimilation is now disregarded as an "islam vs. christian" problem. Why because it puts your own in bad light as oppose the "westerners" you so wish to spread hatred over. hmmmm So let me get this straight, it better to fight something that is in your mind vs something that is real. I hear am. Abeg waka comot, only AA can cause extinction.

As for calling me a "deluded traitor", I hear am, thank you. Until I start seeing Igbos fighting alongside you in this, then you have no mouth to call me a traitor to my clan. As of now, You ain't sh1t, I have more authority to speak for Igbo than you do anyday, anytime, anyhour. Bear that sh1t in mind.

By the way: where did I mention African American are Igbo? Dude the argument is about African-American claiming their ancestry originate from Igbo clan. They saying that is not saying they are Igbo. For Godsake, the African-American and other diaspora are not trying to be Africans, they just informing Africans where they believe their potential African ancestors came from. They are in noway saying they are that ethnicity.

Mrs..Chima:
That's a very good question. Maybe jealousy? Ignorant? Both? Although I don't think majority of Blacks in Diaspora has Igbo heritage...I still think that they can claim whomever they want and as you said...it doesn't affect anyone nor change the price of garri.

[b]Is that all you have is that one naira? Let me loan you a kobo. :[/b]P

ROFLMFAO.

PAGAN 9JA:
not i am tryin for the preservation of the tribes and the dignity of the ancestors. remember what happened to the poor Natives of both the americas. half of them are extinct, the other half are fighting extinction, due to assimilation. Even any Natives have started realising this. i have spoken to some of them. the tribes of europe also got extinct today due to assimilation. NO! i shall not let this repeat again be it my trie or anyone elses. there are many Igbo who support e in this and we shall fight.

the akatas are an unfortunate group. they were kidnapped and sold into slavery by other tribes. but these other tribes were not aware that they would be shipped abroad and face all that harshness. slavery in Africa wasa different sysem that existed domestically. rhere was no cultural and religious supression involved in this case. the ancestors of the akats should have died with dignity, rathar than have let themselves become slaves in the forein lands and forego their culture. identity and beliefs.

yes another reason why i dont like akatas is becasue they are a dirty lot and do all sorts of corrupt things. they have no culture.

You must be joking. Dude let's keep it real. The AA laying claim to Igbo heritage will in noway cause an extinction to Igbo clan, infact it increases the clan due to intermarriage between the two groups. Secondly, your own people are more trying to cause an Igbo extinction than assimilation of AA into Igbo clan or are you going to deny this? Forget the Boko Haram attacks, the 1967 attack, the Asaba Massacre, the attacks during Colonization era, etc, etc. If you fighting to protect the integrity and what you deem as a "potential extinction" of the Igbo community then maybe you should start taking your fight to somewhere where such problem is visible. Charity begins at home. Lastly, let the Igbo fight their own fight; don't Igbo already do so each time? If we disapprove of AA community stretching their hands towards Igbo Clan, we'll fight it. If we need help, then you can join in. Right now, all you are doing is attacking and insulting African-American that have not done you or your clan wrong while using Igbo as a shield.

killayut: You Idiot. You are an Igbo and not even Ikwere so shut up. Ikwere people even understand PH is an Okrika town. Now you are not even qualified to argue with me cos you are Igbo and not even Ikwere. NAMA SUO BIRI.

Dude, stop laying claim to everything in River state. WTF is wrong with you? Not only did you lay claim to Engenni, Ndoki and Egbema communities in the other thread, here you are yet again laying claim to PH.

The problem with all you people in NL is that you forget, you can write whatever it is you want on this website, twist history and lie as much as you can on this website, the community in question might actually have a website written either by their local government or their king to counteract every lies brought upon them on this website.

PH originally is an Ikwerre town; now-a-days it stretches to Okirika and other communities.

Here is the history of Portharcourt from the Official LGA website. Written by the Local government of the city; approved and posted by the river state and Nigerian government

[size=15pt]Port Harcourt was founded in 1912 by the British in an area traditionally inhabited by the Ikwerre, an Igbo subgroup.[/size] It was named after Lewis, Viscount Harcourt, Secretary of State for the Colonies. The initial purpose of the port was to export the coal which geologist Albert Ernest Kitson had discovered in Enugu.
In August 1913, the Governor-General of Nigeria, Sir Frederick Lugard wrote to Harcourt, then Secretary of State for the Colonies, "in the absence of any convenient local name, I would respectfully ask your permission to call this Port Harcourt.". To this the Secretary of State replied "It gives me pleasure to accede to your suggestion that my name should be associated with the new port."
The Port Harcourt port is one of the leading ports of the Nigeria and its exports include palm oil, petroleum, coal, tin, palm products, cocoa, and peanuts. Industries of the area include sawmilling, auto assembly, food canning, flour milling, tobacco processing, and the manufacture of rubber, glass, metal, and paper products, cement, petroleum products, paint, enamelware, bicycles, furniture, and soap.
The Port Harcourt Urban Area (Port Harcourt metropolis) is made up of the city itself and parts of Obio/Akpor Local Government Area.Some of Port Harcourt's more popular and well-known residential areas are Port Harcourt Township (better known simply as Town), G.R.A phases 1-5, Rumuomasi, Orogbum nu Oro Abali (known as Ogbunuabali), Rumuola, Diobu, Amadi Flats, and Borokiri. The main industrial area is located in Trans Amadi. Port Harcourt City, which the capital of Rivers State, is highly congested as it is the only major city in the state. A law has recently passed by the state house and governor Amaechi's administration to develop to the surrounding communities as part of the effort to decongest Port Harcourt. The greater Port Harcourt City, as it is officially known, spans eight local government areas that include Port Harcourt, Okrika, Obio/Akpor, Ikwerre, Oyigbo and Ogu/Bolo. Also, other ethnicities include Tai, and Eleme.

http://portharcourtlga.gov.ng/

Portharcourt originally belongs to Ikwerre (a statement written by THE GOVERNMENT OF THAT CITY), later the city was spread out to neighboring communities which then included okirika. Stop laying claim in places that does not belong to you, it is disgusting and pathetic.

alj harem: Haba My blood brother why do you disown me each time I speak the truth . gwa onye obuna ezi okwu.

You cannot disown me you mad man . We are brothers whether you like it or not. Chikena

You must have smoked something high.

When have you ever said the truth? You forgot you were giving the term "Chameleon", "Snake" and "Ignorant" by other members for a reason. ROLFMFAO @ "each time I speak the truth", I don hear am.

Abeg stop calling me brother. I've asked nicely twice now, next time I would insult you.

Finally re-read my last post to you in terms of "Go back"

alj harem: LMAO Oh i miss NL

One Naira my brother, you go just have hypertension and die ontop nothing

I am not your brother, I do not even see you as a friend, now do me a favor and never address me as such again

I repeat again. Since you were gone, we had a pleasant non-ignorant, non-fake kumbaya, non-story changing, non-annoyance moment on NL therefore go back to whereever it is you are hiding out in be it another id, a village, whereever. Either way, your alj_harem handle is just flat out annoying. Go back to wherever you came from.

alj harem: I find this discussion very funny and have opened this bigots to the REAL WORLD. The only realists on Nairaland had always been ChineyeN and Abagworo but I dont know what happened to Abagworo. All of a sudden he started living in "Onlytruth and Ezeuche's" world of fantasies.

First of all Ijaws are a separate ethnic group. Forget this brother rubbish you Igbos throw around so as to expand your lands. They are totally separate from Igbos, Yoruba and any other ethnic group.

Secondly, I think Ijaw Citizen accessions are very correct. Killayut is just twisting history a bit cuz I have met some PH boys and I am Awori myself from a royal household but who would blame them they learnt how to do it thanks to Igbos as well. BTW Killayut it is good you are teaching me my history, I never knew I was Ijaw andd I thank you for letting me know, BUT I MUST MAKE MYSELF CLEAR NOW AND THAT OF THE PEOPLE I WOULD RULE IN YEARS TO COME THAT WE ARE YORUBAS and NOT Ijaws. I am not saying this to spit anyone but the facts on ground are clear. You can confirm what I am saying by going to any Awori village. As for the words thing, my brother I totally disagree with you. If any yorubas were the ones that influenced Ijaw Language. Unlike many other ethnic groups, DIFFERENT DIALECT HAVE DIFFERENT WORDS FOR THE SAME MEANING. Words like Oloshi, Oniranu, alinishese etc all means worthless in yoruba. We do not have a particular word for any particular thing, we might have upto 20-30 yoruba words for the same thing we are describing. This is no influence as not all yoruba have one dialect. Not all yorubas were part of the first anf second generation empires. Some of our ancestors were conquered and forced to convict while others were seen as ara ita/ara orun etc (aliens). But I know this would not change your views on how you see Ijaws influence "Aworis". We have 4 major yoruba clans along the coastal regions of Nigeria the Anago/Nago which are Ogu, Aworis ( I am in this category ) then Ilajes which include mahins, then Itsekiris , Ijebus too. Again just to educate you as well, no disrespect my Ijaw brother.

Also Yorubas dont discriminate against anyone, at the end of the day everyone is trying to protect their own interest just as the Ijaws are doing. There are NO indigenous Ijaw population in Lagos, it is a fact among the clans in lagos. Now with that said killayut, it is a free world and you dont see Nigerians discrimate against another just cuz they are from certain part of the country it is a myth. At least the places I have been to.

I think its time to wake up and smell the coffee my Igbo brothers. Your best allies are the ones you hate the most.

GO BACK TO WHATEVER VILLAGE YOU WERE HIDING IN. NOONE HAVE TIME FOR YOUR BS IGNORANCE ON THIS THREAD.

JUST GO BACK TO WHEREEVER IT IS YOU'VE BEEN HIDING OUT AND TAKE YOUR STUPIDITY WITH YOU.

Lastly Bonny Origin

Bonny (formerly Ibani or Ubani from the Igbo language) is a town and a Local Government Area in Rivers State in southeast Nigeria, on the Bight of Biafra. It was also the capital of the Kingdom of Bonny (the land of the Ibani or Eastern Ijaw). Traditionally (especially between the 15th and 19th centuries) it was a major trading post of the Ijaw people.. A small island located just offshore, Bonny Island, is a major export point for oil.

The region produces a type of crude oil known as Bonny Light oil. Much of the oil extracted onshore in Rivers State is piped to Bonny for export.



The Kingdom of Bonny was the state of the Ibani people, the eastern sub-group of the Ijaw. It was powerful beginning in the 15th Century with the advent of the Portuguese and the following Atlantic slave trade. In the 19th Century it came under increasing pressure from the British to end the slave trade. It collapsed in the civil war of 1869, though a remnant of it continues to exist as a part of the aristocratic structure of Nigeria.

http://bonnylga.gov.ng/Our-Communities/about.html

These should end the whole argument

Recap
Bonny, Kalabari and Okirika are part of the Ijaw community
Egbema,Ogba,Ndoni are part of the Igbo community
Engenni is an Edo community.

ijaw citizen: I THINK KILLAYUT ONLY MENTIONED THAT THEY ARE GREATLY INFLUENCED BY ELEMENTS OF NEIGHBOURING KALABARI CULTURE AND TRADITION. HE NEVER SAID THEY WERE IJAWS OR HAVING IJAW ANCESTORY.

And what about Egbema in Edo and Bayelsa states ? Are they Igbos too ? Know the history of a people before you argue. Do you even know what Egbema MEAN ?There is OKOLOMA in Ndoki land and OKOLOMA is not an Igbo name but Ibani - Ijaw. Even Okrika people has a settlement near Oyigbo and we all know it and there is no dispute about it too. So learn about the true origin of the Egbema people before you argue.

Using the bold of his statement, he sure implying something other than what you are saying.

ijaw citizen: WE IJAWS ARE NEVER INTERESTED IN CLAIMING LANDS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT OURS. THE DILUTED IJAWS IN QUESTION WHICH ARE NO LONGER CONSIDERED PART OF IJAW LAND INCLUDE 1. NDOKI- A PEOPLE WHO STILL TRACE THEIR ANCESTORS TO IJAWLAND ( NOT IGBOLAND). THEY STILL CELEBRATE IJAW MASQUERADES, A REMINISCENCE OF THEIR IJAW ROOTS. MOST OF THE IGBO SPEAKING ELEMENTS IN BONNY ARE ACTUALLY FREED SLAVES & NDOKIS WHO CHOOSE TO STICK TO THEIR CLOSEST IJAW RELATIVES 2. URHOBO LAND- A LARGE PART OF URHOBOS CLAIM IJAW ANCESTRY YET IJAW NEVER DEEM THEM FIT TO BE PART OF IJAWLAND NOT TO TALK OF CAIMING THEIR LAND. UVWIE FOR EXAMPLE WILL NEVER DENY THEIR IJAWNESS YET IJAWS STILL SEE THEM AS URHOBOS. I'M COMING UP WITH A MORE EXPLANATORY WRITE UP later.

Urhobo? Ndoki? Really dude? SMH

I give up. You guys are not being serious.

I believe I touched in all the communities that resulted into this whole argument other than Bonny. I am still looking for Bonny origin, haven't found one yet except wikipedia and i am trying to avoid that site due to their inaccuracy.

Kalabari Origin

The website wouldn't let me copy and paste so here's the link.

To put in short terms. Kalabari are Ijaw group

www.kalagbaa.org/History/HistoryBooks/TrueHistoryofKalabari.pdf+Kalabari+origin&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjJ3iW897IhO-H0VWtzAThrlq9rXn-0eo6qxvGoB5k0ej7yr7_u0gGOnBWcHGD3uQFGutQ1wTTrlTUWIm7dAA48C8Ov_UN1tx91KMm0oopr4pK_j7BVAhoB2YoGjUGdFOcL-D23&sig=AHIEtbRtSnA2dwlPkUlfmoUCr7RlZLMLGQ">https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:BkOHjX9Rq1cJ:www.kalagbaa.org/History/HistoryBooks/TrueHistoryofKalabari.pdf+Kalabari+origin&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjJ3iW897IhO-H0VWtzAThrlq9rXn-0eo6qxvGoB5k0ej7yr7_u0gGOnBWcHGD3uQFGutQ1wTTrlTUWIm7dAA48C8Ov_UN1tx91KMm0oopr4pK_j7BVAhoB2YoGjUGdFOcL-D23&sig=AHIEtbRtSnA2dwlPkUlfmoUCr7RlZLMLGQ

I couldn't find the LGA official website of this ethnic group so a book from an indigieous of the community una are arguing about. Written by Opubo Banabo