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Okirika origin

Okrika is a port town in Rivers State, Nigeria, capital of the Local Government Area of the same name. The town is situated on a small island just south of Harcourt, making it asuburb of the much larger city.
The average elevation of Okrika is 452 metres. It lies on the north of the Bonny River and on Okrika Island, 35 miles (56 km) upstream from the Bight of Biafra. The town can be reached by vessels of a draft of 29 feet (9 metres) or less.

Formerly a small fishing village of the Ijo (Ijaw) people in the mangrove swamps of the eastern Niger River delta, Okrika became the capital of the Okrika kingdom in the early 17th century and actively dealt in slaves. It served as a port for the exportation of palm oil after the abolition of the slave trade in the 1830s, but it was a less significant port facility than either Bonny (18 miles [46 km] south) or Opobo (32 miles [81 km] east-southeast).

http://okrikalga.gov.ng/Our-Communities/about.html

ijaw citizen: TAMUNO SISI O! 1.NO IJAW MAN HAS EVER CLAIMED THAT THESE PEOPLE WERE IJAWS. 2. IT WAS CLEARLY STATED THAT THESE PEOPLE SPEAK AN IGBO DIALECT WHICH IS NOT INTELLIGIBLE WITH OTHER IGBO DIALECT YET THEY ARE STILL CONSIDERED AS IGBOS. BUT WHEN WE TRY TO EDUCATE YOU ABOUT ENGENNIS, DEGEMA, ABUA AND OGBIA THAT SPEAK A DIALECT thats NOT INTELLIGIBLE WITH OTHERS IJAWS, YOU CALLED US LIARS AND ALL SORT OF NAMES. IF YOU WANNA HAVE AN IDEA OF THE EXTENT OF THE UNDILUTED IJAW LAND, en.WIKIPEDIA.org IS UR BEST BET.

Did you read the article. I even bolded where it stated "The Ogba/Egbema/Ndoni Local Government Area is inhabited by the Igbo tribes Ogba, Egbema, and Ndoni"

emphasis on the word: INHABITED.

As for who claimed whether or not they are Ijaw, real Igbo, fake Igbo, etc. Killayut did hence the reason I quoted him, not you.

All this back and fourth bickering, attacking and insulting eachother is giving me a headache so I decided to just provide origins of all the communities you all have been arguing about.

In terms of Engenni origin

The kingdom of Engenni (Eghene) is classified among the Niger-Congo, Edoid people of Nigeria. Engenni (Eghene) belongs to the Delta sub-group of sub-saharan Africa, of the Guinea cluster of peoples. The primary language of Engenni is Ejiro. Engenni is sub-divided into three major clans - Ogua, Ejiro, and Enuedua. The Engenni (Eghene) people migrated from the Isoko, Urhobo, and Edo tribes of the ancient Bini kingdom. They occupy the northern banks of the Orashi river. Their first place of settlement is called Okilogua.

http://www.joshuaproject.net/people-profile.php?peo3=11762&rog3=NI

I couldn't find the official website of the LGA but the above post is written by Sukariba E. Dokubo

killayut: And what about Egbema in Edo and Bayelsa states ? Are they Igbos too ? Know the history of a people before you argue. Do you even know what Egbema MEAN ?There is OKOLOMA in Ndoki land and OKOLOMA is not an Igbo name but Ibani - Ijaw. Even Okrika people has a settlement near Oyigbo and we all know it and there is no dispute about it too. So learn about the true origin of the Egbema people before you argue.

Just wanted to post this. I remember seeing a website on this said group, I just couldn't remember the address hence the reason I didn't bring it earlier but I finally found it

To address the topic on whether Egbema are Ijaw or Igbo; we should direct our attention to their LGA official website. Written not even by a random author but by actual citizen of the community in question.

OGBA/EGBEMA/NDONI is a Local Government Area of Rivers State in Nigeria, with its capital at Omoku. It is part of the Ogba / Ebgema / Ndoni / Ahoada West constituency of the Nigerian House of Representatives.

The Ogba/Egbema/Ndoni Local Government Area is inhabited by the Igbo tribes Ogba, Egbema, and Ndoni. The Egbema speak their own dialect of the Igbo language, whereas Ogba and Ndoni are not intelligible with Igbo and are considered separate Igboid languages. They are great farmers and fishermen/women and with a rich cultural history. The area has produced prominent sons and daughters, which included Hon. (Chief Victor Igwe Masi (Former Minister for Finance - Nigeria), Senator F. J. Ellah, Chief C. D. Orike, Dr. Peter Odili (former Governor of Rivers State, Nigeria),Chief Ifeanyi Odili (the Onwa of Ndoni), among others.

Mbama Mike Okiro, the Agunechemba I of Egbema, was Nigeria's first ethnic Igbo to assume the post of police Inspector General.

http://ogbaegbemandonilga.gov.ng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=93&Itemid=190

SMH dude. You need to stop claiming communities that are not part of Ijaw clan.

berem: that is why am respecting myself! I won't fail to blast any untamed animal who touches my tail in the name of insulting me.and to make matters worse,definitely not something that has to do with the Man of the Moment, BEAF.am on this thread to Hail "The Legend".as my husband would call him "ONWA N'ETIRI OHA OF NAIRALAND.

Chei. Una go kill me with laughter today

Nothing do you sha, you held out and kicked some @ss. Remind me not to ever mess with you or piss you off because woman you got mouth.

OYINBOGOJU: The Police men are always angry.

The civilians are always angry.

The commercial drivers doesn't smile.

University Lecturers don't smile at all.

Proffessors always put on dangerous look.

If you go to market both sellers and buyers are angry with eachother.

The Pastors are too desperate to smile unless when they realize big donations.

The bankers only smile at the hearing of millions.

If you look at doctors,sometimes you will think they want to inject to kill coz they look scary.

Students are always ready for riot coz they are angry.

Inside church self no dey eazy at all,everybody face their bible as if they are fighting Jesus with stern looking.

If you go to club or pub the ladies will never smile unless when they see mugu.

When driving you see other drivers looking like assassins.

On nairaland self people are always set to fire shot at eachother.

I just wonder why Nigerians are always angry.

Is smiles not part of service we render in Nigeria?

Feel free to add yours.

No future sha, no future that is why everyone in Nigeria is pissed off.

ezeagu: Chaaaaaaiiiiiiiiii!

The same expression went through my head LOL.

sheyguy: A very interesting thread indeed . . . The Igbos on NL or 'Igbo IDs' on NL have their eyes set on the a do or die alliance with the Ijaws for the sole sake of sharing the oil in and around ijaw land with them. It is a fact that Ijaws go with water bodies and most of Nigerias oil are found around our waters. What the igbos don't realise the Ijaws know is the fact that they treasure and admire the linkage btw Ijaw land and oil rich coastline.
At last, every body don appear to bear their papa name . . . And the loser is . . .

All this attention seeking from your kins is getting desperate. For Godsake if the two ethnic groups arguing aren't involving you all and even ignoring ya'll it is not a must you have to include yourself into it. Damn. I don't get why una like attention-seeking so f2king much.

amicdan: All for the almighty BEAF 7 pages n still counting....

I know right? 7 pages and counting.

Wow

berem: abeg leave those 2 people.if Rhino didn't attack me I wouldn't even know if he still exists.because he is a bloody coward,he came under the username jin sun pack to insult me.you are damn lucky am not in the mood to throw insults.if not I would have given you the bitter dose of myself.
As for your so called enemy Beaf,I don't care if he is a pro GEJ (I am not a Gej fan either).no matter how you talk ills of him which is borne out of jelousy,you no reach am anywhere.you are not as intelligent as he is because your talent lies somewhere else which I won't mention.go get a life and be a complete man!

Chei Insult upon Injury. This woman got mouth. DAMN!!!

If this is you being nice and not throwing insults, I wonder how you're when angered and throwing insult.

^^^dude you are not even igala nor Kogi. Sit down. Everyone else is giving input using their real ID and you had to go create a new one just to talk sh1t. What are afraid of?

I keep informing those with multiple ID. If you are going to pretend to be someone else, do yourself a favor and CHANGE YOUR WRITING STYLE. It is your dead give away

Seriously i was watching this yesterday and i couldn't believe how much the muslim community is attacking innocent bystanders over a simple internet movie. They need to learn how to take a joke. The movie industry have insulted Jew, Christian, Buddhist, Hinduism and even African traditional religion and none have gone of this deep end over it. For Godsake, they need to start practicing "Islam is a religion of peace" mantra. The world is becoming an Anti-Muslim world because of this sh1t.

van bonattel: Beer palour yarns Iya basira, give this guy a bottle of Star for his aimless drivel.

Ewu. I am here trying to give solution in how the two state can solve this dribble and you are here mouthing off. Wetin be your problem sef?

Kogi is of fault, yes. They have no right to claim your state oil, yes. They have no right to piggyback from your hardwork, yes. Trying to steal anambra oil is wrong, yes but Anambra is also at fault. You guys are already drilling from aguleri area and other places so just leave the one in kogi. If they continue, after orient left then a more precise solution have to appear. That is what i am saying.

killayut: You Igbo gays. You see How Hausa kill you people for fun ? Thats how Ijaws will treat you when the time comes.

I would actually like to see how ijaw can achieve your threat. Lets see, even now that GEJ is the president, most of the people in his administration are Igbo. Whenever your ppl are clamoring for anything political, you all drag Igbo into it either by begging or mentioning our ethic group name therefore your threat cannot work political. Cannot work economical since the Igbo own more than your ijaw. Cannot work military since there are more Igbo in military than ijaw. Cannot work citizenship.ly since Igbo population is higher than Ijaw in all areas. Plus, since GEJ became president. Thanks to una tribalism over his administration and insulting other groups, your people have pissed off every ethnic group in north and west. Your only ally is SS and SE and una are constantly fighting SS groups especially urhobo and iteskiri, thus they are suspicious of una. Now in terms of SE they are suspicious of you all also thus ijaw standing by yourself with ally that will probably throw una under the bus if you piss them off too much. Most of your ppl intermarry into Igboland thus family dispute had to occur for your threat to carry out

I would actually like to see how Ijaw plan on achieving your threat.

killayut: What were you going to Port Harcourt for ? You should be going to Onitsha or ABA and not Port Harcourt the Ijaw town. How many of you Igbos have ran to Port Harcourt forcing your selves to be part of Oyigbo so you could be named Rivers people ? shameless people.

Abeg stop trying to steal another man property and claim as your own. Till now, none of you, especially you cause you've made some crazy claims, cannot dispute anything thus result to insult. The way I'm watching this thread, i am getting very scared on the migration of ijaw to other areas. I fear more territory gripping and population jump. I just pray these whole sh1t is just NL craziness and not a reality thing

wow beaf made a home for himself in some NL members heads. Na wa oooo!

ijaw citizen: LOOK AT THE IGBO BIGOTS WAITING FOR ME TO OPEN ANOTHER FORUM FOR THEM TO DISPLAY THEIR IGNORANCE, I'D RATHER ENGAGE ANY OF THESE EDUCATED-ILLITERATE IGBOS IN A FACE TO FACE DEBATE MODERATED BY OLUWASEUN OSEWA HIMSELF AT UNIBEN WHERE I SCHOOL WITH A HIGH DEFINITION CAMERA TO RECORD OUR ARGUMENT. I'M WAITING FOR THE FIRST FOOL TO PICK UP THE CHALLENGE. ALL ETHNIC GROUPS ARE INVITED TO GIVE THE FINAL VERDICT.

Weren't you the one that threatened to open a thread focusing on that discussion. Now you are getting angry that they accepted the challenge. Nairaland wetin i no go see. This thread is getting a bit hilarious. Moving around from one discussion to another, i do not even know what direction you all are going anymore.

Still an interesting read nonetheless but comical

Kenistry: if Orient leave d well dey hv developed in kogi state, will Kogi pay for the cost?
I guess we all know d ans to dat. Dialogue and compromise is d only way out of dis, bt let me say dis, if Kogi is not careful dey way dey go abt dis, dey wil b in greater loss

Leaving does not necessary mean leaving everything including your hard earned money. Orient company should just sell the oil block back to Kogi state governor or another oil company. If that cannot happen, the next step is to follow mend footstep and destroy every single effort they put on the oil block meaning send it back to the way it was before they started drilling....a whole loss of money for their earlier effort but at least they would not feel cheated.

PAGAN 9JA:
the matter of all tribes in the world concerns me. i am not selfish. todays Ibos also claim christianity. so is it right? ofcourse not.

i am working for the ancestors of the Igbos, not for you.

If you are working for the ancestors then this shouldn't be a problem for you. Most Igbo ancestors wouldn't mind if their children that were kidnapped and sold came back thus you are actually fighting against them, not working for them. Since most of the AA's claiming Igbo heritage are doing so based on information from their own ancestors. Do you see the paradox: You claim to be working for the ancestors, their ancestors are "supposedly" Igbo thus you fighting against their claim is naturally fighting against the people you so claim to be working for.

Personally I understand why you are bent over it. You do not like anything biracial, multi-racial or not pure african thus this to you feels like a problem. Other factor is probably because it is about African-Americans and what I've seen on NL, I don't know why but Nigerians and other Africans seem to have a problem with Africans-Americans (at least on this forum). Though I understand why you are fighting (i.e: based on your own ideology), I say accept it in peace if the two parties in question have no problem with it.

Challas: KIDS HAVE INVADED MY ONCE PRECIOUS NAIRALAND

Did you just call Nairaland precious?
Are you for real or are you joking?

Sad. I'll continue to be an advocate for SE to do something about Ebonyi state. Either absorb it back into another SE state or tear down the governor and rebuild it from scratch. It's shame how northern-like Ebonyi is. It's a damn shame.

PAGAN 9JA:
yes i remember someone told me in another thread that if a foreigner lives with Igbos, acts like one, dresses like one, works for them, etc., he becomes Igbo. so i replied, what if a do did all of the above. would the dog also be entitled to become Igbo

I gotta ask why do you care so much? The Igbo has no problem with AA claiming roots with them, infact we welcome it so why is it affecting you more so than the Igbos. The claiming has zero effect to you or your community so if they so wish to hold and upheld their Igbo heritage while the ethnicity that are claiming has no problem with it, then it should be respected. Leave it alone dude.

PhysicsQED: I think there is some confusion about what the Kogi state government is actually claiming so I'll post the interview with the deputy governor:






What is the stake of Kogi State in the refinery?

As you may know, Orient is operating on OPL 915 and this oil field straddles several states, which include Kogi State. One of the oil wells that has been explored and capped by ELF on the ground that it is not economically viable is what is being re-explored by Orient. The well is actually in Ibaji Local Government Area of Kogi State. So, on the stretch of that, we feel it was only reasonable as a government that is concerned about the welfare of its people and that is actively participating in encouraging private investors to invest in the state to felicitate with Orient on its success story.

Don’t you think the oil wells have been conceded to Anambra State following statement by the Federal Government that Anambra has joined oil producing states?

I don’t see how one can make that extension. The oil well is in Anambra River Basin. It is a very large expanse of reserve underground with an overlay of several states on that basin and even that basin has been divided into several OPLs. Orient has 915 and 916. Now, one of the wells is in Kogi State while other wells are in Anambra State and you can drill as many holes as you want in this basin and every hole you drill is a well.

Like I said, there was a well that was drilled by ELF years ago and capped, which EFL used to call Obisi 1 but ELF now left that concession because it felt it was not a viable one and orient now applied to Department of Petroleum Resources (DPR) and it was given that concession. It then went to the capped well and developed it and named it Anambra River 1. As far as their operation is concerned, they named it as such, but that still does not mean that the mere fact that Orient has found oil in Anambra has excluded Kogi State’s claim as a member of the river basin that has oil as a commodity.

Is there any controversy between Kogi and Anambra states over the oil well?

There were talks going on. Long before the issue of the oil well, there was a matter that was brought to the attention of the National Boundary Commission as it relates to communal clashes between Kogi and Anambra communities around that area. So, you can now imagine with oil now thrown into the mix, that communal issue will now require a more urgent attention for the purpose of resolving it. I can tell you that both states - well let me speak for Kogi State - we have absolute faith in the Nigeria Boundary Commission to do the right thing as far as delineating our boundaries with Anambra is concerned.

In fact, it should be done for the three states there – Kogi, Anambra and Enugu. The three states are all laying claims to one part of it or the other. But for us, we are all Nigerians. The oil underground spreads definitely beyond the boundary of these states and what we need to do is to prospect it but we have the good fortune of knowing that the one that is producing now happens to come from Odeke, a community in Ibaji LGA.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/awoniyi-with-oil-kogi-anambra-relationship-is-more-delicate/124213/

So judging from this quote. The oil is within Anambra River Basin which spreads to Enugu, Anambra and Kogi (just like orient company stated) but one state is trying to lay claim of all the oil found within that river basin and claiming it's only there's been drilled despite the owner of the said company in question said otherwise.

This post kinda contradicted the orient company comment before the whole dilemma started

we have the good fortune of knowing that the one that is producing now happens to come from Odeke, a community in Ibaji LGA.

WHERE EXACTLY IS ORIENT REFINERY LOCATED?
Our head office is in Awka. The area of our oil blocs is about 2, 158 square kilometres. Two thirds of the oil blocs; the total area is 2, 158 square kilometres. The bulk of it is in Anambra North senatorial zone in parts of Oyi, Ayamelum, Anambra East and West; four local government areas and then part of it goes into Enugu State – Uzo Uwani Local Government; Kogi State; Delta in Oshimili Local Government Area; a part of it is in Edo State as well. Oil blocs cover this but the refinery itself is located at Nsugbe; at the boundary between Nsugbe and Umuleri. There we have about 320 hectares which is already being developed. We've levelled it and we're ready to put refinery on top of it.

Shouldn't the orient company owner be the ones telling us where they drilling as oppose to the deputy governor? SMH. So all this has a political agenda behind it. Wow, greediness is not a good thing. Like I said the best way to solve the whole problem is for Orient company to leave the one in Kogi state and focus on the rest. In my opinion that is the best solution that would benefit both states. After doing so, if Kogi state still lay claim to Anambra part of the oil then take they should just take it to the court. As of now, both states are of fault

youngies: The Enugu state police command has arrested suspected abductors of the Vice-Chancellor, Enugu state university of science and technology (ESUT), Prof Cyprian Onyeji.

A statement issued by the Police Public Relations Officer in the state, Ebere Amarizu says that members of the syndicate were arrested after a gun battle with security operatives.

The suspects, nine in allb]allegedly[/b] confessed to having carried out series of kidnappings in the Southeast region, including the recent kidnap of Prof Onyeji, who regained freedom 20 days ago.

The Enugu police spokesman said that the police had been on the trail of the suspects since the kidnap of the VC last month, and arrested three of the suspects at about 4pm yesterday.

The three men, Osinachi Iheanacho, Ejike Aba and Obinna Okoro, subsequently led the police to the arrest of others.

Professor Onyeji was abducted on the 15th of August this year by some gunmen who had waylaid his convoy at the gate of the university at Agbani.

More: http://channelkoos.com/index.php/news/2497-9-suspected-kidnappers-of-esut-vc-arrested

I do hope these men are the real culprit. Hmm, I do not trust nigerian police at all and their evidence against the nine men (i.e: allegedly confessed. Notation on allegedly) is hmmmmm. Well Good job if they caught the real suspect.

It so beautiful. Its always nice to get a glimpse of the past. Waiting for your next update

ChinenyeN: Did someone say that Igbo people should unanimously agitate for Anioma?

First question: what is wrong with that?
Second question: what is so funny about it?
Third question: do you or do you not agree with it?
Last question: Ever since I've been on NL, anytime i read a post from you concerning delta igbo, it always comes of negative therefore i ask what did anioma ever do to you? Why do you dislike us so?

So they are protesting, what is wrong with that? Don't south protest as well. Instead of us to rejoice that they are protesting as oppose to attacking and killing innocent bystander, una are hear mouthing off. Give credit when credit is due. This is a step forward in my opinion. It is a million times better than mrs.world saga

The best thing to solve this whole dilemma is for the oil company to leave the little in kogi state including the look around they are doing and focus and continue drilling on majority found in anambra and the little in enugu state. If kogi still continue to lay claim of the oil in Anambra then just take the community and the state government to court. That will solve the whole dilemma.

afam4eva: I also want to know.

Anioma should just be created and added to the south-east. Chikena.

About my favorite post on this thread so far. I support the anioma state creation and i wouldn't mind if that is the new state SE get.

I think he's using the new handle Delta-boy. I might be wrong but the guy somewhat remind me of him and is also urhobo so I'm thinking its him.

Johndoe100: This is the central question. For quite a while now the ibo people have used every opportunity to harass the Ijaw, misinform members as to things pertaining to Ijaw, who are the people of Rivers state etc. I had thought it was just them being their normal lousy selves, but it turns out that they seem to have an agenda. As with all such ibo agendas it will fail. Look at the nonsense they have been posting here. Ibo's always fail. We, the Ijaws and the people of Rivers state have thrown you barbarians out and there is no coming back.

Look at this blubbering 1diot. Everyone has been following this thread since it began including I. EVERYONE on NL including non-igbo have spokenon this thread and mention the fallacy on the whole ijaw 4th tribe position and the nonsense spreading of community all the way to states ijaw aren't found. You aint got mouth to talk sh1t to them like the coward you are. Unlike others, the Igbo's are the most Vocal because you and your likes are stretching your territory gripping all the way to Igbo group and claiming igbo community including those in SE as part of your community. One even went to extent to claiming an Igbo celebrity as one of your own and still maintain that ideology despite evidence giving to prove otherwise. Though granted they are also correcting other community groups in which some ijaws are claiming. Lay away from Igbo territories both in rivers and SE, groups and people and the whole ijaw are 4th in Nigeria and whatever else fallacy can spread. We all read this entire thread and we all see what the whole argument is all about.

If you do not have any intelligent thing to contribute then leave the f2king job to your brothers like killyaut and ijaw citizen that are obviously smarter than you to do the God damn job. It is not a must that every tom and jerry must talk

NRI PRIEST: To me,its quite ok if they don't wanna associate with the greater Igbo nation but lets not twist facts nor rewrite history,so we can cover our shameful insecurities.

Stella Damascus,in an interview she offered some tabloids years ago,stated that her last name was "Ojukwu"(yes,same as the Ojukwu the biafran leader;note that Stella is an Asaba girl) but her family after the biafran war changed the name to her grand father's baptismal name because they thought it will help if ppl don't think they are related to ojukwu nor are Igbo. The war really dealt a devastating blow to the Igbo!

Her family did not change their last name to deny their igbo heritage. I equally read that interview. Her family changed their last name because her ppl were being persecuted by the nigerian government/army and during that time there were very little biafran soliders in Asaba, therefore very little ppl to protect the citizen of Asaba thus her family was a sitting duck for the trigger happy ignorant nigerian army. They changed their last name out for their own safety. After Biafra War, her family just kept the last name but never denied Ojukwu was her official last name neither did she deny her igbo origin.

Don't make an enemy out of your own brother especially if that your brother have never done you wrong. Till this day, i have never heard of an Asaba indigenous that have denied being Igbo so why do you all drag and paint us with the same brush as you do the rest.