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[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9601260#msg9601260 date=1321878039]A big size Ghanaian dccik does just the trick.
PS: Plz stay, but dont comment unless I refer a comment to you.[/quote] I'm not G@y so you can take that manliness and shove it up your @ss like the little ashawo we both know you are.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9601249#msg9601249 date=1321877954]You never did.  
Please next time, dont waste by time with your arab this and Islam that that you couldnt even back up with any slight evidence.   [/quote]Evidence full for here.  From page 1-page 3.  

https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_la78ab3cpe1qawoe4.gif

https://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/052011/haters-brother-mario.gif  

Still waiting on the Yoruba learned Islam before Hausa and Fulani, Still waiting on the Igbo deny Bini influence, still waiting on this modern spin yoruba added to agbada.  I'm waiting and i'm waiting?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9601221#msg9601221 date=1321877753]Dont let the thing pain you too much.
I've given credits to the Binis for influecing some aspect of the yoruba culture. Now it's the yoruba's turn.
No one can deny our influence, globally. [/quote]Whatever puts you to sleep. I do not know why yoruba lie to themselves so much but whatever puts you to sleep.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9601184#msg9601184 date=1321877445]Oh boy!! Dont give up yet. You're leaving the battle field with a feminine insult like that?

Oya, reclaim your dignity by helping Uyi with those soups Yorubas supposedly aquired from the SS/SE.[/quote]I do not have the energy anymore. Talking to you is like talking to a cow--sense no dey.

The soup I leave that for someone else.  You've never heard of Egusi .  This lie get k leg ohh

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9601122#msg9601122 date=1321876893]I hope say you no dey fail in school.
Accuculration is not about envy---- You just envy igbo people, you crave igbo that's why you are trying so hard to steal other's influence on Igbo.
Plz desist this your inferiority complex. Not good----ROFTLMFAO.  Inferiority complex because of what?  

Acculturation should be celebrated  -----We celebrate but give the right credit to the right person

Now help me find those soup that Yorubas supposingly learned from SS/SE. I'd love to know.[/quote]

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9601107#msg9601107 date=1321876789]https://www.danielkrieger.com/NYC_Wedding_Photographer_Blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/1070-Beautiful-Nigerian-Couple.jpg


1. This is not worn by any Islamic nation, apart from the yorubas
2. This is not a bini influence
3. This is a MODERN Yoruba traditional attire
4. the design, cut, and textile are Yoruba made
5. Those are igbo couples[/quote]hmm I hear word. Whatever puts you to sleep my dear

^^^ You've reached the all time stupidity.  Travel out of that ekiti village where you dey and drive around SE and SS region.

Apart from SE who wears this?  Everyone except the hat.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9601053#msg9601053 date=1321876403]Back then, Binis were influenced, which was passed on to the Igbos. Yorubas, being part of the bini empire, could have directly influenced the Igbos themselves.
We know that history. Case closed.[/quote]Ha the envy you have for Igbo people jor.  Give people their credit, Bini influenced Igbo, not Yoruba.  You crave that connection so much huh?  Pele!!!

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9601029#msg9601029 date=1321876232]"Yorubas copied agbada from Arabs" "I can't tell the difference between this Arab man and this Yoruba man"
"Agbada is an Arab attire"

If you do not know what your flawed logic is indirectly implying, plz get out of my kitchen.  [/quote]You mentioned there is a difference in the attire  I replied I see no difference, it is the same thing.  it's a copied attire, everyone copied the sudano-sahelian including yoruba and you did not change it.  E be pain you this much?

Ileke_idi  do be careful on that short bus

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600991#msg9600991 date=1321875895]Biko, continue posting those Arab pictures. 

I hope your flawed logic does not reach your children, talkless of Ileke-IdI. God forbid that one. Omo see One kobo [size=18pt]Logic[/size]; "Yorubas wear Agbada so they stole it from Arabs. Igos wear agbada, so they're influenced by Binis" ROTFLMAO!!! [/quote][img]http://3.bp..com/_6iyyhNHJjtI/SCLCiiAY0KI/AAAAAAAAAT4/UkWJo5dXTQc/s400/ShortBus-T.jpg[/img]

This stupidity, I hope noone jujued you ohh. It is not normal.

Read well well

one naira

Turaeg learned it from the Moor, Hausa learned it from Turaeg, Yoruba learned it from Hausa. Bini learned it from Yoruba. Igbo learned it from Bini. You see the cycle of this. It is neither a yoruba influence or Hausa influence which defeats the purpose of this thread. The title should be Muti-culture accumulation across west africa and north africa.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600961#msg9600961 date=1321875708]According to you, Yorubas wear agbada, it means they're arabized.[/quote]Where did I say that?  What you highlight is mockery of your logic of Igbo are Islamzied just because we wear Agbada.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600799#msg9600799 date=1321874632]LOL Obiously, that was to get on your nerves As the thing dey itch you so.
Refer back to the Ofala thread with Crayola1 where we had the same crap discussion, even I could not have made a statement such as a yoruba invention.  

However, no one can pinpoint who invented Agbada. Who knows if Yorubas influenced the Islamic prilgrims who came to Yorubaland during Musa's reign. However, Agbada is found within Islamic regions (Libya, Yorubaland, North, etc).
The Agbadas found in Yorubaland is made differently from those in the other regions. Like I've been saying, we fashion/designed them to fit our taste and culture. The materials are different, designs are different, etc.  [/quote]Ileke-idi.  It will not end abi?  na stubborn woman you be.  I thought I reached somewhere when you admitted it.  Carry on, my hand done tire.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600694#msg9600694 date=1321873717]Plz show some shame lol.
Someone just agreed that una like to wear other people's cloth.
Other ppl's that is Yoruba's attire.

Nothing wrong with it. Celebrate
You despise Yoruba so much that you're indirectly claiming that Igbos are being Islamized, just so to deny the influence.
Agbada is not the only thing being worn here. As proven by pixs. Those clothes cannot be found in Hausaland or in your precious Arabland.[/quote]This girl and her lying.  Where did he say Yoruba? and where did I say Igbos aren't influenced by others?  

Refer back to you've reached full- retardation picture.  Igbo wear agbada,  I've been telling you Agbada is a Sudano-Sahelian creation, not Yoruba.  The yoruba hat the two men wore, I gladly mentioned it's Yoruba influenced.  See this buffon.  You are the only one here trying to deny other's influence.  If it pains you so much, Cry me a river.  

Yes ohh.  I hate yoruba people hence the reason I'm trying to take another man creation from them.  Pele!!!!!

Only in that r.etarded brain of yours is the word I, one_naira, indirectly claimed Igbo are islamized
 
ileke-idi

Does that mean Igbos are being Islamized?

one_naira

4.) No It is human nature to copy individuals without any form of connection to those individuals

The Southern Americans play banjo, an African drum.  I guess that means they are Africanzied. Most of the modern creation is an Asian creation.  I guess that means the world is Asianized

Na rock dey for your head?


Agbada is the only thing you've posted so far except the first picture, attention remains on agbada.  The only other picture that's different is the guy with the yoruba hat and igbo attire, which you tried to claim as a yoruba influence through bini.

I won't even reply to this.  I'll let your own post speak for itself.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600620#msg9600620 date=1321873074]Nothing but male sensitivity

What are he precolonial pictures supposed to prove?[/quote]Ileke_idi

The pictures you provided were newer (in terms of age) than those of the olden pictures of Yorubas, which indicates where the infulence comes from.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600620#msg9600620 date=1321873074]That what? Yorubas didnt invent Agbada?No one said so.[/quote]It seems you are a broken lying record.  

Ileke-Idi refer back what started this whole conversation,  go back to page 1 and read your own statements.  

one-naira
Did Yoruba invent it?

ileke-idi
Obviously yes. A Yoruba traditional attire.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600620#msg9600620 date=1321873074]That Hausas were not influenced by Yorubas? No one said that either?[/quote]Another of your post

Ileke_idi  Islam culture was first introduced to Yorubaland, then I would think Yorubas were influenced with it before Hausas

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600620#msg9600620 date=1321873074]They were both influenced during the Islam pilgrimage to Africa.[/quote]Exactly what've been saying for 3 pages straight.  Thank God you've finally admitted it.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600493#msg9600493 date=1321871996]Exactly.
It's something to celebrate.
Nothing to deny.
[/quote]Exactly therefore give rightful people their own share and don't claim everything.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600484#msg9600484 date=1321871943]The same modernization that you yourself are posting. The pictures of agbadas worn by Yorubas in the 1970s and those in your "colonial" Hausa pictures are not the same as today's Yoruba agbadas.

Unless you wish to deny that one too [/quote]
[img]http://4.bp..com/-VALpRTyI6mQ/TbGoKQKjQ9I/AAAAAAAAASg/v5f6BCGV0VM/s1600/girl-you-crazy.gif[/img]

Pre-colonial
Yoruba
https://lh4.ggpht.com/_o3RfR0wD8Y8/TVKiJ1kSmEI/AAAAAAAAJFc/czSzaCYVs1Y/mossi%5B5%5D.jpg

Sudano-Sahelian
https://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee254/BabyHorus/Picture1.png

modern

Sudano-Sahelian
[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2hmHi9HJW1apKojdhxEDOXh7Q2msKz-Xv9eaE5I8BZEq4ZB9a[/img]

Yoruba
https://www.xsightn.com/wedding_photographer_nigeria/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/nigerianweddings-5.jpg

Stop side-tracking jare and point it out.  Why do Yoruba love making a blunt statement and when asked to point it out, it becomes a duanting task for you people.  Point the difference?  

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600484#msg9600484 date=1321871943]Ye-ls! We fashioned to to our taste, culte and tradition. The styles in our agbadas cannot be found in your precious arabland or in the North.  [/quote]The truth hurts.  It's paining you well well.  Keep crying.  ^{CRY LOUDER}

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600484#msg9600484 date=1321871943]PS: To extend this thread, plz What exactly are those precolonial pictures supposed to proof?[/quote]It defeated your logic on the similarity is because where modern. Whether the picture is modern or not, it is still a SUDANO-SAHELIAN creation.  Even the past, the dressing was identical.
[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600484#msg9600484 date=1321871943]Still aint gonna help you sleep at night.
Because of your inferiority complex, which you indirectly admitted in your previous post, you're going off tangent. Chillax. Acculturation is something to celebrate.[/quote]I'm not the one crying for sleep yet still awake. Inferiority nko? ROFLMFAO. I credit Yoruba for their influence THE CAP and I credited the Sudano-sahelian for their influence, Agbada.
You keep bashing your head on the wall because Yoruba didnot create Agbada. Between me and you, who is the one with the complex? The Jury is out, it isn't me.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600484#msg9600484 date=1321871943]You're going to have to do 2 homework today. Even a typical Hausa man knows that Lagos was the first state influenced by Islam. If you didnt know this about Yorubas, no wonder you continue to deny their influence.  [/quote]Another back-track. Igbo denied bini? where? show? you find it it. Yoruba was the first nigerian to be introduced to Islam? Where? Show? You find. This girl and her blunt, cannot back up statement. E no dey shame you?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600128#msg9600128 date=1321869105]Nah, you're talking like a child
No problem, mama Ileke-IdI will help you.[/quote]Only a child cannot understand simple logic.

I do not want your help ohh. As fela said, Teacher do not teach me nonsense.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600116#msg9600116 date=1321869017]LOL Oh dear, time to rubbish long azz epistles. lmao!!

Let's try this again. Yoruba influence Binis --> Binis Influenced Igbos. Nobody is arguing the indirect Yoruba influece that can be seen in the Igbo attires back then.
However, we're looking at the modern Yoruba influence of the Igbos, which can be seen in their recent attires, from Agbada to the other typical Yoruba attire and the typical Yoruba hat.[/quote]Which modernization? Story done change.  You take new style to vex after I proved you wrong, Agbada is not a Yoruba attire.  Refer to comparison and show me the difference?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600116#msg9600116 date=1321869017]That's not what is in discussion, dear. Borrowed, acquired, potatoe potata.
Point is, Yorubas fashioned it to their taste. That Yoruba taste, not the arab wear which is different from Yorubas,  can be seen in Agbadas in the pictures I posted.

Nobody said Yorubas "invented" Agbada, even though we might as well have [/quote]Fashioned it to their own taste? ROFLMAO   Show this different taste na?  I did the comparison with the pictures provided by YOU.  Biko, list the difference.

Story done change.  A minute ago you were on rampage how Agbada is not a Sudano-Sahelian creation and when proved wrong, you change your story?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600116#msg9600116 date=1321869017]The pictures you provided were newer (in terms of age) than those of the olden pictures of Yorubas, which indicates where the infulence comes from.
And Agbada is not the only one being discussed here.
The first wedding picture I posted here was not of agbada influence, it is a modern Yoruba fashion.
Not found in Bini land, not found in Hausaland and not found in your precious Arab land [/quote]Pre-colonial Sudaneo-Sahelian
[img]http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=59879&stc=1[/img]

Pre-colonial Yoruba posted by Tpia
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2796/4158312844_41010055ff_o.jpg

Another Yoruba
https://www.adireafricantextiles.com/balogun.JPG

Sudano-Sahelian
https://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee254/BabyHorus/Picture1.png

Yoruba
https://lh4.ggpht.com/_o3RfR0wD8Y8/TVKiJ1kSmEI/AAAAAAAAJFc/czSzaCYVs1Y/mossi%5B5%5D.jpg

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600116#msg9600116 date=1321869017]Knowing I'm Yoruba and denying others influence [/b]helps me sleep wonderfully at night. Even if it keeps you awake, I cant apoogize for that [/quote]Fixed and i'm not the who've keeps saying I'll talk to you tomorrow.  Pele!!! If crediting others is keeping you up.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9600116#msg9600116 date=1321869017][b]Yoruba were not the first SOUTHERN group to be introduced to Islam. Yorubas were the FRIST NIGERIAN group to be introduced to Islam via Lagos, before Hausas.
Hausas never learned Islam from Yorubas, dont overwork that your brain.  

Makes me appreciate how we still keep unity between Christianity and Islam even up till now.[/quote]Link it up. Proof?  During slavery and pre-dates slavery, Fulani were Muslims.  Link it up Ileke-Idi and do not side-track on this one as you did the igbo denial on bini influence

Hausas never learned Islam from Yorubas, dont overwork that your brain.

Why mention them on your previous post?  Were you trying to imply they learned agbada from Yoruba?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599845#msg9599845 date=1321866425]Igbo being influenced by Yoruba culture. . . . thanks to Bini contact.
Accoring to your logic 

But I'm more interested in how Yorubas are influencing you guys; completing the attire with the hat.[/quote]I'm talking to a child ain't I?

I know Igbo swag is too much and you want to connect yourself to it but Ileke-idi It did not happen.  Pele!!!!

Ileke_Idi, Ikele-idi, how many times did I call you? Denial is not good ohh

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599833#msg9599833 date=1321866331]LOL Seem like sleep no dey catch me yet. Oya let's continue.

According to your post, seems like you still need a lot of help.

According to your logic, Agbada is an Islamized attire. Islam was introduced to Yorubas before Binis. Yoruba influenced Binis with Agbadas and Binis in turn influenced th Igbso.[/quote]And so? In some logic formed by you that means Yoruba influenced Igbo.  WTF?   If we are following this logic then the credit belongs to Sudano-Sahelian.
I do not need any help; you need a lot of help.  You claim everything as Yoruba without checking up on its origin.  The hat is Yoruba that is why I've agreed with you on the cap but the outfits are not.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599833#msg9599833 date=1321866331]The first Igbo man's picture, if you check the date, you'd realized that Yorubas were doning the attiring before you were influenced. It's part of our heritage.[/quote]Go back to the Ofala cermony thread and reread Crayola’s answer.  It's not part of your heritage, IT IS A BORROWED ATTIRE, just like it is borrowed attire for many Nigerian groups. Nobody is going to deny Yoruba was the first Southern Nigerian group introduced to  this attire but to claim it as you own is pathetic.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599833#msg9599833 date=1321866331]The modernized version which we fashioned for our culture/ tradition (Different from that of Hausas and Arabs) are now being worn by Igbos in this century. Look at old pe-colonial Yoruba attire, they were dated way before the pixs you're posting.[/quote]The pictures provided by YOU prove otherwise.  I've done the comparison like multiple time even with pictures you provided and ones I found and anyone with an eyes can see in each group, the attire is identical except for the hats.   If I go seeking Sudano-Sahelian pre-colonial pictures, it will still be the same thing.  Are you trying to imply Yoruba somehow influenced Sudano-Sahelian? What?  It pains you this much to give credit to the actual creators.  It pains you this much. 

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599833#msg9599833 date=1321866331]Another part of your logic which I find interesting is how you indirectly clamed that igbos are now being Arabized/Islamized. Agbada is not a traditional Bini attire, it's a Yoruba man's.[/quote]You vomit nonsense from your mouth but whatever makes you sleep at night.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599833#msg9599833 date=1321866331]If Islam and Islam culture was first introduced to Yorubaland, then I would think Yorubas were influenced with it before Hausas. Just that we didnt pick it up as fast.[/quote]Is this what you were saying? I thought you meant Yoruba was the first southern group to be introduced to Islam.  That's is accurate but to claim their introduction pre-dates Hausa or Fulani is lie. 

When it comes to Islam, Hausa learned it from Fulani.  I am not sure if Fulani were the first to be introduced to Islam but their introduction pre-dates Yoruba introduction.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599578#msg9599578 date=1321862990]Cheiii!! Chineke me!!
From his cap to his toes. Possibly he has a Yoruba father, who is more interested in his Yoruba heritage. but I doubt its the case here.[/quote]Just the cap Ileke-Idi.  Everything else is Igbo, why do you like claim claim so much?

https://www.naijapals.com/newsimg/igbo_wedding.jpg
https://bedazzledphotography.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/pearl11.jpg

[img]http://quod.lib.umich.edu/g/gefame/images/4761563.0006.102.00000004.jpg[/img]
The man behind the man with the big horn
[img]http://2.bp..com/-cS9cPHNZDyY/TcCLZlYNzUI/AAAAAAAAAVo/FkHOhLfaMUU/s400/Igwe.jpg[/img]
https://amightytree.org/oldsite/ritual%20paradox/O-150adj.jpg
Look at the man behind the small boy at the right

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599661#msg9599661 date=1321864572]BTW, Tomorrow, try to get your facts str8. If you want, bring crayola1 and ezeagu here to help.

1. Agbada is an Arab attire
2. You were influenced with agbada attire by the Binis
3. If so, why the sudden stop, and why the pick up of it after your close contact with the Yorubas? From what I saw in the pix you posted, that looked nothing like the yoruba Agbadas being worn in the SE.
4. Does that mean Igbos are being Islamized?
5. When did Islam hit bini land? If I remeber correctly, Yorubaland was first introduced to Islam.
6. Does that mean Yorubas influenced Bini? Because Agbada is not a Bini man's wear.
7. How fast are the yorubas influencing their neighbors?[/quote]I see this bad eyes is a disease among some yoruba group. Half of the question were answered already. 

1.) YES everyone and their mama and papa is aware of this except YOU.
2.) Refer to answer one. KPele Ohh. Ndo. Don't hate, appreciate.
3.) YORUBA AGBADA IS NON-EXISTENCE

Exhibit A (Igbo men)
[img]http://quod.lib.umich.edu/g/gefame/images/4761563.0006.102.00000002.jpg[/img]
www.nairaland.com/attachments/346082_cake_jpg941c6c657dd5bdbbb070541584dbc5f4

Exhibit B (Yoruba man)
https://cdn3.namywedding.com/system/images/3715/zoom/DSC01917.jpg?1284973846

Exhibit C (Original creator.  Sudano-Sahelian)
[img]http://www.bikebrothers.nl/Afrika/slager.jpg[/img]

4.) No It is human nature to copy individuals without any form of connection to those individuals
5.) Refer to answer 4
6.) Didn't I answer this already. 
https://www.blackpast.org/files/blackpast_images/Benin_City__ca__1600.jpg

  I guess the gentleman on top of the Horse is not from Bini because of his agbada attire eeh?

What about this one?
https://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs007.snc3/11446_1277309050572_1165368351_30884577_4124479_n.jpg

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2011/10/full_retard.jpg
7.)Who knows.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599572#msg9599572 date=1321862903]^^^ Tomorrow, we shall go over my denial more.  [/quote]Corrected

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599572#msg9599572 date=1321862903]Multiple threads with bini influence denial. You're going to do the searching, I dont keep tracks of the threads [/quote]You mentioned it? Show now, what kind of lazy woman you be

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599515#msg9599515 date=1321862250]Plz, you already insult yourself and whatever little intelligence you had with your denial [/quote]https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2011/10/full_retard.jpg

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599515#msg9599515 date=1321862250]Arab creation lol. You want to deny Yoruba influence so much that you're saying igbos are now copying arab tradition in this century [/quote]Only a complete F00L would deny Agbada origin is SUDANO-SAHELIAN. I see your mother dropped you way too many times. Kpele ohh

https://www.shootingatbubbles.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/cry_me_a_river.jpg

^{CRY LOUDER},  I do not think the Oduduwa region can hear your cries.

https://houstonswag.com/SWAG%20logo2.jpg Na igbo man creation

No wonder Ileke-Idi wants to have some kind of Influence on Ndi-Igbo.  Pele!!!!.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599465#msg9599465 date=1321861735]On another thread, you guys were claiming how benin had no influence on Igbos. now it's benin and not yorubas. PS Igbos were introduced to Yorubas long before colonization, just incase you didnt know.
LOL.
Try harder.
even the benins will tell you that agbada is not their attire, nor is the hat and the adire worn in the first pix I posted

Unless you meant Benin (country) which also retained a strong Yoruba influence.[/quote]Which Igbo person denied Bini influence on Igbo?  Link to the thread let me see.  The Bini influenced Ontisha, Asaba, Ukwuani, Anioma, etc. and every Igbo person is aware of this.

Of course Bini will not claim agbada as their own because it is not theirs; just like IT IS NOT YORUBA.  You will not hear a Hausa claim agbada or even Igbo.  It's a recycled dress style which origins lay at SUDANO-SAHELIAN.

PS Igbos were introduced to Yorubas long before colonization, just incase you didnt know.

It depends on the group PPS and even the extent of interaction is still out for debate

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599398#msg9599398 date=1321860929]Based on how hard you're trying to deny multiculture/acculturation here with Google crap, I doubt you have the brain(S) to do my homework.
Which I'm effortlessly completing while breaking down your [size=18pt]jelosi[/size]-posts

Multi-tasking, a woman's gift.  [/quote] I won't result to shameful insults.

I deny am?  I guess you missed The title should be Muti-culture accumulation across west africa and north africa.  

E pain you this much that agbada was influenced by Arab?  This inferiority and superiority complex all mixed into one is not good.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599392#msg9599392 date=1321860832]No need to play superiority (me) inferiority (you) contest here.[/quote]Superiority nko, Inferiority ni   Whatever makes you sleep at night

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599392#msg9599392 date=1321860832]Acculturation is a beautiful thing, it should be celebrated [/quote]It is.  Just don't steal another man creation and claim as your own.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599373#msg9599373 date=1321860652]Igbos learned nada from benue. awww, is it hurting you so bad to know that it was learned from the yorubas?

Igbos did not wear such before their mass movement to lagos and their strong connect to the SW (Yorubaland). Close contact with the Yorubas caused the changes. Looks nothing like the agbadas y'all wear nowadays. Look at the wedding pictures, look at the hat. . . . that was not there during the burials. . . . that was after Yoruba's traditional modifications.


plz post more pixs of the Arabs [/quote]The hat that one man was wearing is Yoruba influenced I said it na, didn't I?  

History 101:  

Igbo interacted WAY MORE with bini than we did with Yoruba and every influence beside Ibibio and other SS region was from Bini

Exhibit A (Ukwu Burial again)  
[img]http://migrationstoriesofnigerianigbo.files./2009/11/igbo-ukwu-burial.jpg[/img]

Exhibi B  
[img]http://quod.lib.umich.edu/g/gefame/images/4761563.0006.102.00000002.jpg[/img]

Exhibit C
[img]http://3.bp..com/_QVW98iGMXHI/S3TsPEHAe1I/AAAAAAAAKCQ/12JxjR_FvuA/s640/igboman.png[/img]

These pictures were taken before Igbo was first introduced to yoruba.

Heya Pele!!!!! It pains you well well Igbo learned the dress style from Bini rather than Yoruba.  Pele ohh!!!!!.

On the behalf of Bini
https://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2010/05/haterafrican.jpg

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599314#msg9599314 date=1321859816]Try to post my pictures dear.

You're not trying hard enough. The pictures can't cover the hate and bile you feel knowing that Yoruba influence is spreading towards your end. I think Nigeria should be well familiar with it.[/quote]So I have to do your homework? What kind woman you be?  Nwanyi, enlighten me on the hate and bile influence

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599314#msg9599314 date=1321859816]Even some aspect of Yoruba culture is still being practiced in Haiti, Cuba, brazil and ofcourse Togo/Benin.

[/quote]Chei  How is this relevant?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599307#msg9599307 date=1321859782]I see that the thing dey pain you well well. 



It's not about superiority. I hope inferiority complex is not bothering you here.

If Igbos were so concerned about "Arab" agbada, they would not be imitating Yoruba's agbada which looks similar to the arab's own. It's a lovable traditional attire. 

I hear [/quote]inferority complex gini?  I'm not the one chest beating and perspiration just because I mentioned I see no cultural mixture in this photos which defeats the purpose of this topic.  .

The "Arab" agbada influenced all west Africa groups.   Even before Igbo met a Yoruba man, they wore agbada

Ukwu-burial
[img]http://migrationstoriesofnigerianigbo.files./2009/11/igbo-ukwu-burial.jpg[/img]

Turaeg learned it from the Moor, Hausa learned it from Turaeg, Yoruba learned it from Hausa.  Bini learned it from Yoruba.  Igbo learned it from Bini.  You see the cycle of this. It is neither a yoruba influence or Hausa influence which defeats the purpose of this thread.  The title should be Muti-culture accumulation across west africa and north africa.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599200#msg9599200 date=1321858137]Bini's influence on Yoruba is still out for the jury to decide. [/Quote]
The Jury is out and the verdict is Guilty.  Bini influenced Yoruba plenty

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=807895.msg9599200#msg9599200 date=1321858137]But being specific on modern influence, no tribe has yet to try that on the Yorubas. Each decade we make additional changes to our culture abd tradition. Our current wedding attire (with the fan) was not what it was 20/30yrs ago.
Our agbada are even more sophisticated than what the Hausas and Arabs can imagine.  
Bini empire's influence can only be seen in some part Ondo state.[/quote]So this girl you haven't learned your lesson eeh?  Yoruba and claim claim.  Ileke-Idi this superiority thing has no head and tail, why do am na?  The Yoruba fan is Japanese influenced, the Agbada na Arabs make am, Hausa man didn't even change it talkless Yoruba. Yoruba adopted it without changing anything.

Sudano-Sahelian Moor
https://www.joaoleitaofoto.com/images/20081227085025_moorish-man-mauritania.jpg

Yoruba
[img]http://3.bp..com/-empZ4nBCxo4/TbF45RK9o_I/AAAAAAAABMM/yYsLTkW67FE/s1600/aso-oke-nigerian-wedding-dress.jpg[/img]

Sudano-Sahelian Tuareg
[img]http://api.ning.com/files/bRiDqEBdVblQahqssdHlzw2orznQ7rwGMznGFfe-eN3f9vHjUCWqgmQEYCipifZOZv9b5fr232p1*Ay2MMeKDNjxGTDna8qo/000a052m6F8.jpg?width=600&height=400[/img]

Yoruba man
https://www.xsightn.com/wedding_photographer_nigeria/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/nigerianweddings-5.jpg

Sudano-Sahelian
[img]http://www.bikebrothers.nl/Afrika/slager.jpg[/img]

Yoruba
https://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs576.snc3/31417_10150167811710231_51722410230_12284720_1175240_n.jpg

There is no difference except the hat.